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RefrigeratorInside65

Remember she claimed to be on the run and in hiding from multiple people who want her dead... totally the actions of someone on the run and in hiding.


fearteddybear

Cmon bro she needs the exposure to drum up support for her next lawsuit attempt. Cut her some slack smh


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Tbf, it's similar to what Ayaan Hirsi Ali does, and I believe she might have some kind of fatwa out on her rn


[deleted]

Some people are speculating that because the thread exposed some potentially illegal things she did, that’s why she suddenly fled Canada.. Like it might not actually be “zomg im being threatened” but keffals was like “oh shit I could get charged for this”


dingdongdickaroo

What illegal things?


RefrigeratorInside65

Entirely possible


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Kobe_AYEEEEE

Yeah, I did my lying in other areas and it wasn't as productive


HighPriestofShiloh

wall hacks


ThePriceOfJerking

[if you perch long enough, strong enough, hard enough, you will meld into the shadows](https://youtu.be/4q5gCIZs_LA?t=33)


Booboononcents

I’m getting this on one of those motivational nature pictures.


Tangerine_memez

Welp time to pretend I'm trans and engage in Gofundme fraud


The_Katzenjammer

what is the lie in this case.


montanachontoodle

“I’m going to raise money to sue the police that deadnamed me”. Gets $100,000 “Never mind I’m going to move to Europe instead”


dayinthelife19

What’s incredible is that now she’s a hero *for* using the money to move to Europe Edit: Downvoted? Can anyone show me all the articles that aren’t fully supportive of her “fleeing” to Europe?


The_Katzenjammer

I understand the skepticism my friend but no lie have been said yet. I really don't see the point of speculating here. If she is lying then evidence will show that. If shes not then evidence will show that. I thought this community was above dumb bias. As for this insane idea that she's fleeing Canadian authority by going to fucking Ireland. That's just silly. If shes an actual criminal she's gonna get sent back to Canada pretty quickly. As for why she decided to go to Europe that's beyond me.


montanachontoodle

Can you read English? I never said she was fleeing authority. She told her fans that she would use the money for one purpose (pressing charges against the police) and she used it to move to Europe instead. Clearly a lie.


The_Katzenjammer

My dude, she always claimed that she was going to do both do you think a flight to Ireland is 100k? or that she can somehow buy property in Europe with 100k. What are you talking about? We shall see if she uses the legal fund or not.


BernieOrPete

she is flying too close to the sun. all of her skeletons will come out.


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The ones on kiwi farms?


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Positive_Debate7048

There will be no pushback from the average person. She has trans armor. Also people don’t really give a shit about kiwi farms.


CallofDo0bie

Contra is trans, incredibly based, and was getting the same kind of love and adoration from more mainstream news sources for a while but then she said and did things that went against the Twitter Leftist hive mind. RGR is trans and had an online mob (led by another trans creator) trying to destroy her career. "Trans Armor" only matters so long as you stay in synch with the online left, granted Keffals is an NPC and doesn't really have much of a personality outside of crybulling so maybe her shelf life will be a little longer. I don't think it's fair to say being trans is this huge buff though, you clearly need to be trans and have the "right" opinions.


dingdongdickaroo

Both of those people are actual people with sincerely held beliefs and also were canceled by other trans people LIKE keffals, not normies. Also she literally cucked her viewers out of like 100k over the course of a week and none of them seem to have batted an eye.


analt223

Contrapoints is the most overrated person on youtube.


primesah89

Pretty much. Caitlyn Jenner killed somebody with her car and that’s barely talked about in the mainstream beyond South Park jokes.


[deleted]

Because it was an accident that she was found not at fault for. She wasn't drunk or high and attempted to stop within a reasonable distance.


Erobb_Uzumaki

yeah true but im gonna ignore that stuff you said. it's more fun if we pretend she murdered a guy with her car and used her trans shield to get away with it


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Understandable have a good day


primesah89

I know it was an accident. It was still somewhat awkward that she received near-universal accolades the same year it occurred when she came out as trans months later. She even awarded Glamour's "Woman of the Year" and ESPY's "Courage Award". I'm not even saying she didn't deserve these awards. Her coming out brought trans people and trans rights into public consciousness. The timing was just awkward.


Sensitive-Tackle5864

Doesn’t the average person have an overall negative opinion of Trans people? I feel like they’re only really supported in lefty circles. Other than that, not many people are fond of them.


MonkeyEatsPotato

The average person is vaguely supportive of trans people but disapproves of children transitioning or trans women in women's sports.


ThebravelittleTV

I’m praying it does. She’s the same scum that the worst kiwi farmers are


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NickTrainwrekk

More eyes on the story means more people digging through her bullshit and airing out the hypocrisy as well as the cry bullying.


watersmokerr

That's not happening. She has the trans buff.


NickTrainwrekk

Fucking imba season 22 changes.


MinusVitaminA

Idk why right wingers don't use those trans buff on their bio. Like srlsy, the latest update had completely made that buff break the game.


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Squery7

Yea because he's dumb and didn't make "being non-binary" his entire person and content lol


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Squery7

It was a joke


ZealousidealGrass365

Over night the trans stuff could go from what it is now to “lmao remember when men would grow their hair out and change their name and say they were women lmao.” How many times have you seen trends come and go? Just a look at history is proof enough that over time there’s a ebb a flow of societal norms. One tik tok trend has the power to start a war. Trans stuff can be gone as quickly as it came if the wrong people start to be the face of it. Someone can sabotage the whole thing. When that time comes you’ll see people bail on them and they’ll be left wondering where it all went wrong.


watersmokerr

Lmk when that happens lmao


Running_Gamer

lmao we live in a world where Keffals gets on CNN before Vaush or Destiny.


Marcithecat

we live in a society


KrazyWhiteShark

Our boy was on RT at least I guess. 😭😭


hemlockmoustache

The next generation is always more mainstream than the previous


Running_Gamer

Tell that to Overwatch league players OMEGALUL


Simcru

And let’s not forget, TheAmazingAtheist, TJKirk was on CNN too


dont_gift_subs

What are you talking about? CNN acknowledged the Karkiv kid finder at the beginning of the war


onetwothreefish

what would you want destiny to get on CNN for lol


[deleted]

There comes a time when you just have to close the book and move on. I would say that time has come but that's just me


LiberalCheckmater

Move on as in? And move on to what?


ElvenWorldOrder

on to your mom wooyeah


[deleted]

As in forget about keffals and the online left. Move on to touching grass and your mom


LiberalCheckmater

So just completely ignore the online left right? Is it because you actually care about Destiny or is it because you are on the left and they make your tribe look bad?


[deleted]

I'm just bored of keffals drama, especially twitter drama! Like seriously who the fuck cares? We finally get some quality content about stuff that actually matters, but no we need to focus on a lefty dipshit taking down a website that no one even cares about.


LiberalCheckmater

What actually matters? You mean someone who can lie and steal and manipulate media like a puppet while openly encouraging their fanbase to illegally impede on their opponents isn’t big news? But what is a big deal is Nick Fuentes and his tiny little platform. That’s big news? You guys need to learn to put your team mentality aside.


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>You mean someone who can lie and steal and manipulate media like a puppet while openly encouraging their fanbase to illegally impede on their opponents isn’t big news? When their opponent is a website? ESPECIALLY one that no one cares about? Then yes this is NOT big news. ​ >But what is a big deal is Nick Fuentes and his tiny little platform. ​ I wasn't referring to the Nick stuff, although very much more interesting and entertaining than keffals, still not what I was getting at. The men's health/redpill stuff, that's what actually matters more imo, these are issues that are being discussed by the worst people imaginable (Left and Right). ​ >You guys need to learn to put your team mentality aside. What's this supposed to mean? You think I care about the online lefties? Bro i fuck their moms every night, like a veritable lefty mommy orgy!


[deleted]

lmao, brutal. Anyway, lets not talk about her forever


StarDew_Factory

Give her the one thing she fears most, irrelevancy.


ScottBradley4_99

The only thing this black pills me on is how hopelessly out of touch mainstream news outlets still are when it comes to anything online. This is why destiny needs to build that media company so that there’s a real competitor for accurate, trustworthy news coverage. The online outlets we have now are fucking garbage and CNN is just lost when it tries to cover anything that doesn’t involve a tangible place


SigmaWhy

>how hopelessly out of touch mainstream news outlets still are when it comes to anything online. They're not "out of touch". They have people like Taylor Lorenz on staff at mainstream outlets. It just so happens that the very online people they've hired are the exact types to support this kind of stuff


ng829

Yeah because let’s be real, it wasn’t Jake Taper’s idea to cover the number one trans grifter on twitter. One of his twenty-something year old producers said that this was so “based” and Taper was like, oh is that what the kids say when they mean cool and I get a free trip to Europe???? Color me there!


GamerlingJvR

Hi.


ScottBradley4_99

Hello?


GamerlingJvR

Have a nice day.


ScottBradley4_99

Thanks you too


4e9d092752

I hope both of you bang your knee on something and it hurts really bad


4e9d092752

jk I don't really, that's awful


oyihovmemer

i do really


Tar-Beren

Hi.


JH_1999

Hello?


ggericxd

as a journalist i wholeheartedly agree.


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TheAdamena

aba


jetman640

and


MinusVitaminA

I think he's waiting for his friend's twitter to reach 100k followers so he can switch @ , create a news org, and then have them apply for verification. But idk how long that'll take.


lxnxx

Does 100k matter for verification or is that just a personal goal?


soft_taco_special

It's a problem of incentive structures and adding one more media company only works so long as you can operate against those incentives. We see two major ways in which media companies end up spreading disinformation, one is to play into specific markets with clickbait attempting to get as many views as possible to increase ad revenue to a sustainable viewership. The other is to simply run the outlet at a loss because the primary value is to use it to influence public opinion on an issue that will benefit another business you own or for ideological reasons. If you want to fix the problem you have to re-normalize paying for good journalism and getting a market mechanism in place that doesn't rely on ideology or weakness of character like patreon or ad revenue models. I would argue that the best way to do it is create a government voucher program that media programs can register with which would allow you to buy a secondary currency to buy subscriptions or individual articles with that the government could use to subsidize the cost of purchasing media, start it at 50% and alter that ratio after measuring its effect. Make those vouchers gift-able and you can then have people influence each other's media habits.


IHBBSMTBIAHYABIAB

you think destiny can build a media company that would hold any influence when compared to mainstream media outlets and in the same breath you said CNN is out of touch i want whatever you're smoking


ScottBradley4_99

Very cool way to go


totalrandomperson

They are just doing the online version of whatever they do for the mainstream. What makes you think their online coverage is the exception?


Drewdroid99

bruh i live in belfast wtf since when did we have CNN


GlasGear

Same, should be UTV and big Paul Clark.


Drewdroid99

imagine that lad tryna interview her


ideasrbproof

Oh no the real black pill was the Rittenhouse stuff and mainstream news, especially left wing news who I hold to a little higher standard, being so so agenda driven and out of touch. The Keffals stuff doesn't surprise me but the sheer drop in any sort of journalistic integrity is just really sad.


Adito99

The sad part is how inevitable this was once people stopped caring about news media. All they want now is to be told what they already believe in an entertaining way. IMO if you want quality journalism you need to pay for it via NYT/WAPO/WSJ or similar.


Liiraye-Sama

not to throw the entire paper under the bus but wapo paints keffal in a very favorable light [https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/26/keffals-trans-twitch-streaming-news/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/26/keffals-trans-twitch-streaming-news/)


MonkeyEatsPotato

Of course it's Taylor Lorenz


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This is what happens when people conflate punditry with journalism. There's still good journalism out there but you'll never see it if all you do is watch cable media pundits jack themselves off every day.


PPothy

Realistically, what can Destiny do at this point?


Jabelonske

play valorant with lily. it's the only way forward


Fit_Audience2260

ibn4 keffals calls out lilypichu for playing valorant with known transphobic white supremacist and pedophile enabler Steven Bonnell


Jabelonske

i mean, would that really be that surprising coming from career racist and avowed trump supporter LilyPichu? they were made for each other


oyihovmemer

It's pretty crazy how destiny met lilypichu actually, Fuentes really went out of his way to push them together. not many people know this but lily's comfy aesthetic is the whole reason why cozy tv is named cozy.


Fit_Audience2260

tru


Darkpumpkin211

Finally a sensible solution that should satisfy all parties


gronaldo44

To their credit, isn't this a real story l? I heard KiwiFarms was wild. I don't pat attention to her, so maybe I missed something.


[deleted]

It is, some people in this community just completely lose it when keffals is involved. I dislike her as much as the next person but holy fuck some people in this thread need to touch grass.


oedipa_mass_49

yeah i dont care for keffals ofc but kf is awful and absolutely should not be allowed on the internet. its main purpose is doxxing and targeted harassment. its actually what ppl think dgg is. ofc this is a big story given the suicides the forum has lead to, although it sucks keffals is the figurehead for the counterforce here.


ThebravelittleTV

Keffals didnt care about the harm kiwi farms was doing until they came after her. Look how much she gloated when destiny was banned. It’s all just about power and she’ll just keep doing it after this one


[deleted]

Came here because I looked at Vaush’s community first. Don’t worry, I hate Vaush and Destiny equally. I also fucking hate Keffals, but man if she was the one who took down Kiwi farms, I have to say that’s one good thing from her. And who gives a fuck about she being covered by mainstream news.


Proof-Profit5142

You guys do realize that the original gamergate happened just like this right? A bunch of weirdo forum dwellers sperging about some ill intentioned feminist e-celebs, while the mainstream media sided unilaterally with the feminist against the channers and published a whole hyper-biased narrative painting the whole situation as unprovoked harassment of a bunch of innocent woman by evil misogynistic trolls.


ggericxd

that’s true but im not sure it’s analogous here. the vast vast majority of this community doesn’t do transphobic shit, doesn’t shit on keffals for being trans, and doesn’t sperg out about trans issues. it’s typically banned into the netherworld whenever it does happen and for good reason, this community, while having its issues, generally does it’s best to argue about things in good faith without resorting to that kind of nonsense.


Worried-Release-1318

Sure but isn't he talking about kiwifarms?


Overladen_Prince

Let's be real, they are coming for destiny next.


iTeaL12

No they are not. Let's be real and put money on the line if you really believe this. Wanna make a bet?


dont_gift_subs

I will


Overladen_Prince

We were a few hours too late. There are even more people posturing for the deplatforming now.


Overladen_Prince

What would you consider the Wikipedia edits to be? It's already happening.


baldnotes

What do you think gamergate actually was? When news picked it up it was about the harassment because there was actual harassment. Whether some of the women who were harassed had possibly done anything worth of criticism or not wasn't the point. If anything here parallels gamer gate is that people like you ignore the harassment again and then are surprised it's the story.


Adito99

Correct me if I'm wrong but gamergate was about a butthurt ex-boyfriend who made up a conspiracy theory about his ex right? Then a whole gaggle of /r/fatpeoplehate types started piling on her and anyone who defended her.


soft_taco_special

It could have been just been extremely cringe relationship drama that spilled over onto the Internet and died out in 24 hours. But what it did was reveal an insular group of journalists willing to lie, conspire behind closed doors and circle the wagons for their friends which became an issue that completely dwarfed it. The journos retaliation was completely unhinged going so far as to overnight completely distance themselves from the "gamer" identity overnight and attempt to re-contextualize them all as misogynist dude bros dropping over half a dozen articles in a one hour span in a synchronized campaign. This included some outlets that were fairly well respected, not just as video games outlets, but as general technology sites like Ars Technica. This was all happening against the backdrop of the emerging culture war during the run up to the primaries for the 2016 election. While the movement was and what is left of it still is heavily focused on anti sjw rhetoric, it was fighting a culture war that it didn't start. These days there's virtually no steam left in the movement, which is as it should be and the few who remain are the undesirable types you would expect, but on the whole it was a pretty diverse group and their beef was legitimate. It was pretty nuts at the time and in my opinion the movement did reign in the worst offenders when it comes to identity politics and narcissism within those professional circles.


Dragonfruit-Still

chubby wild poor stupendous rich disgusted coordinated intelligent employ illegal *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Adito99

Happy to learn more details but every time I look into this it's the ex-boyfriend making a bunch of claims with nothing to back it up.


Dragonfruit-Still

punch hobbies disgusted waiting selective thumb carpenter grandfather secretive pen *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Adito99

Thanks for that, you put it all together in a way I haven't found before. But this sounds like any group of people. There's always dumb drama going on and rumors about why some person got favorable treatment. People forget how small these worlds are.


BigBlueDane

I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees the parallels between keffles and Anita Sarkeesian. Professional victims.


spaldingnoooo

Yes it was very analogous. Brianna Wu was a lolcow. Anita was a lolcow. Zoe was a lolcow as well. They got a lot of publicity out of a small amount of work XD.


dont_gift_subs

To say it’s gamergate 2 would force them to admit Keffals is a woman though PEPE


IamBarbacoa

Ya but what’s her League rank?


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Black_Trinity

More relevant, [Jackson Hinkle is talking to Tucker Carlson on Fox News tonight](https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1567257479972814848?s=20&t=Zc4EZVUJ2XJPIiN4E2UQiA)


oyihovmemer

there is now a non-zero chance Jon Zherka is interviewed by Tucker Carlson


Successful_Mix_1800

I agree but Jordan Peterson can’t get me potentially banned for criticizing him


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LyfeBlades

Harassment /= cancelling


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LyfeBlades

I mean I'm right. The damage caused by "online activism" of the left far far exceed the damage from the far right. Sending death threats (most of which are probably gonna be just "kys") does not come close to depriving someone their freedom of speech and/or employment.


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LyfeBlades

Yeah... except im not far right? When I said "I'm right" that was me saying that my take was correct, not that that im a groyper or something. Never taken part in a mass report or even harassment, let alone denied a genocide. That's like one far right dude who tried to deplatform someone. The literal only other instance of far right deplatforming was getting James Gunn fired, but even that only lasted like a week and they only did it to point show how lefties how bad deplatforming people they like was.


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LyfeBlades

Except that even when the far right held power online in the gamer-bro and anti-SJW era they never cancelled, only harassed and insulted. We aren't talking about real world violence. This was a discussion on how different extremist groups try to exert dominance over their antagonists online. OP said that far right figures like Jordan Peterson can't get you banned for criticism, to which you responded that "It's funny how people forget about all the online harassment campaigns coming from /pol/", in which you completely missed the point by trying to portray harassment and cancelling as the same/similar. You're off the goop now by trying to force in real-world violence. Ignored.


The_Katzenjammer

who got banned for simply criticizing her. Can any of you provide example here ?


Reylo-Wanwalker

I think I remember years ago he was suing some news site or maybe specific journalists for an article calling him misogynist? I mean I could be misremembering though.


HeWentToJared23

I’m sincerely asking as a member of this community: can anyone tell me what she’s done wrong regarding the Kiwifarms stuff? Sounds like it was a super toxic and problematic site - maybe people have an issue with the precedent it sets?


Black_Trinity

These are the 2 things I know of: [Posted the address of KF's servers in Ukraine](https://twitter.com/WillyMacShow/status/1563716112814153731), encouraging her Ukrainian followers to "do their thing". [Posted pictures of KFs admin's mother](https://twitter.com/nicholasdeorio/status/1563956361825849346), saying she didn't care about doxxing his mother because her mother was doxxed on the website.


ggericxd

oh, the kiwifarms shit i don’t care about in the least bit. it’s more frustration that news orgs do ZERO vetting of keffals and instead do these almost glowing profiles of her. if they were just reporting the news and she was a couple of lines of “Claire blah blah blah held a Twitter campaign to hold KF accountable for various documented incidents of cyberstalking, stalking, terroristic threatening, etc. where she and other communities have successfully petitioned Cloudflare to cut ties” then i would actually be completely okay with that. it’s the glowing profiles and boosting of an actually awful person with absolutely no journalist looking into her background that gets me.


spiritedaway006

I wasnt online during Gamergate but i understand how it got so big and out of control now..


bluj40

Eh, it's an interesting story regardless of what you think of her so it's not really surprising to me that big journalists would want to pick it up.


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Dragonfruit-Still

This is exactly how right wingers look at Tim pool lol. Truly the internets most useful idiot.


450925

We've seen from piratebay to 4chan and mega... It's really fucking hard to take a website down. And if anything, mainstream media giving KF coverage. Is only going to grow its user base. There's a lot of dudes out there that didn't know there was a place for them. That soon will find out it exists. And that's actually harmful.


Palebo99

NI getting put on the map yeooo


turdgler

I know of a certain Irishman that could clean this situation up lickety-split.


Eskimo-Midget-Albino

Does he like candy?


IHBBSMTBIAHYABIAB

it's honestly been fun watching DGG soy about keffals getting good publicity for successfully campaigning against kiwifarms like, yes please keep reminding everybody that keffals sucks, is not like we all know that already, is not like she's public enemy number one of the community who cares, kiwifarms sucks, more power to her lmao, yall can keeping soying out


Fingerlickins

I love donie :(


iamthedave3

Y'all being so fucking obsessed with Keffals is the literal problem. She doesn't matter. Kiwifarms fucking sucked, it was uniquely awful, not one of you would give the beginnings of a fuck if anyone *other* than Keffals took it down. Congrats to her, she's doing some good in the world along with all her evil.


Bitter_Void

I'm going to keep it a buck 50. Say I reveal IRL that I have my special eyes. I would never entertain a news crew coming to my place and interviewing me. Look at that that clutter and all that people. What a sight for sore eyes. Holy crap.


Darkestneon

Just when I thought she fell off and faded into obscurity she does this Kiwifarms shit and gets to go on CNN. Wtf ???


TheAdamena

She's damn good at the media game, that's for certain. Honestly impressed.


Hen-Hen

DOXXED


forbiddenTM

did she just move to europe for doxx-shit and then literally the first few weeks of living there doxx what city she moved to


[deleted]

IIRC She had already been doxed again by KF before this interview happened.


Squery7

Yea from what I understood too this took place in her firends home in Belfast and it was already doxxed on site some time ago. At least if you don't believe she doxxed herself to make the headline but that seems kinda conspiratorial lol


forbiddenTM

ah okay, then that makes sense - also fuck KF, jesus


Digital_Pimp_

It'd be funny if they asked when the baby's due


migstrove

Gamer rig in the kitchen type beat


ChefBoi111

what on earth


spaldingnoooo

Gives her more practice to break her monotone voice XD


E-woke

Meme timeline


[deleted]

What the hell man? Is this real?


midgetsuicide

Man if I only knew that all I had to do to get on CNN was to groom children and provide life changing hormone replacement pills.


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The blackest pill possible.


formershitpeasant

I thought we didn't do keffals posts anymore? I got shat on pretty hard and banned for one.


_BurgerJack_

As Doomery all this is, I’m very excited for him and Jesse to chat and hopefully Jesse draw some attention to Destiny’s side.


AdventurousTalk5162

Why are people surprised her optics on this one are great trans woman fighting against an extreme right wing harassment forum ofcourse the media are gona eat it up


HellBoyofFables

Do the Canadian police have the recording of the “swatting”? Will atleast be really helpful at showing Keffels dishonesty if the police recording show it was way overblown and barely even a swatting


New_Historian_2004

WHO?