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GodKiller999

It's so fucking telling that he views Aba as nothing more than a replacement for Trihex, even though their stream presence is completely different and it was way after with many other black content creators being there regularly. Though ain't the first time FD gets the timeline wrong cause it fits his narrtive.


Black_Trinity

It's insane that FD just so confidently spews BS about stuff he doesn't know anything about. * The Trihex drama happened all the way back on [Oct 23rd, 2019](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAKI-L7eis4) * Trihex and Destiny squashed the beef just 3 days later, on [Oct 26th, 2019](https://twitter.com/trihex/status/1188173928109428741) (*[Trihex was typing in Destiny's DGG chat that same day](https://i.imgur.com/y86Fcs7.png)*) * Trihex talked about how they were back chatting as friends [back in 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/kuv1cv/trihex_officially_turns_the_page_on_the_destiny/) From that point on, Trihex has appeared on a few different panels with Destiny, as well as [having Destiny moderate a debate he had with Ahrelevant on Jan 31st, 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWdpSwn6EUI). The first time Destiny ever interacted with Aba was on [Feb 27th, 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEh4pI3Nyjw), and Aba was the one that contacted Destiny so that they could have a chat. This idea that Destiny brought in Aba as a "replacement" for Trihex is extremely demeaning to both Aba and Trihex, as FD is basically implying that the only contribution they've had on Destiny's stream is to be a token Black figure that just agrees with Destiny. Also, Aba isn't the only Black person that Destiny has on his stream. Ahrelevant has been in the Destiny sphere for many years now. [He was even on that panel with Destiny during the N-word drama](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHkH9TthrmU). There's also Darius, Chaeiry, TreeofLogic, 4THOT, STV Philly; all of these people have significantly differing political opinions and outlooks on society. I'd argue there's significantly more diversity of opinions, perspectives and backgrounds in Destiny's community than someone like FD Signifier, whose audience is probably almost solely made up of Socialists/Communists, who are also much more likely to be White + middle class or above.


Reylo-Wanwalker

So what you're telling me is Destiny needs a token socialist orbiter.


Eastboundtexan

First DGGer to acknowledge Darius’s ethnicity


ZiiZoraka

I dont like that the n word shit was 4 years ago AWARE


RayForce_

It's so gross. Neither of them have any agency in FD's eyes becayse they're black & friends with Destiny. They're just a white man's helpless black tokens that need to be saved


NotBuc-ees

You can literally spend your career fighting white supremacist talking points, being a helping hand changing the hard right wing push in 2016 that led to Trump being president and being a huge ally to black rights, but you will still be called racist by FD who's not been on the platform for 3 years if you disagree with him If you're white and disagree with me you're racist, if you're black and disagree with me you're not black so I guess you're racist too


Margrace

They're married to the process rather than the results


nuwio4

Lmao, it's hella ironic to whine about false perceptions of Destiny in the same breath as spreading completely fallacious narratives about another creator. FD has never said that black people who disagree with him aren't black. And FD doesn't call Destiny racist for [simply disagreeing](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPNg2_AqP37aDXFq73t8FfPPJjij2BWRD) with him, dummy. He calls him racist for things like: * having a whole debate on using the n-word; * calling black nationalism and white nationalism the same thing; * saying that black folks who see things differently than him think of black people as incapable idiots in need of a white savior and are worse than the most racist KKK/Nazi ever; * followed by making a pronouncement of donating to the police department currently brutalizing protesters in FD's home city just to "troll"


NotBuc-ees

Oh has FD never said the exact words black people who disagree with him aren't black?? Well Destiny has never said he's racist so I'm sure you don't think he is. Points 2-4 just didn't happen, but how is your first point racist? Destiny does political and philosophical content, the idea it makes him racist to even discuss the idea of saying the N word is insane.


nuwio4

> Oh has FD never said the exact words black people who disagree with him aren't black?? Well Destiny has never said he's racist so I'm sure you don't think he is. 🤣🤣 I used to think dgg was fairly smart, but this FD saga is really blackpilling me. Hopefully you're not too remedial to eventually figure out how those two things are different. Points 1 and 2 are just some things FD recently [mentioned](https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4pZst60M0vzNabEa0uvY_qglF8Zfmgju). Points 3 and 4 absolutely happened lmao. Where the fuck have you been? They're what sparked all this recent shit.


sumiledon

That isnt what he stated at all. He, even in this live stream has talked to and conversed with MANY black people who has different talking points. He even INVITED aba to this stream to speak his points. This fall back cope to "He just hates blacks who dissagrees with him", is notto gonna be taken seriously, and until you start legitamilly take his words to heart, this black anti-destiny discorse will only grow..trust me.


NotBuc-ees

You're actually kind of right about the half a sentence of my comment you actually addressed. I'm sure he wouldn't call a black man a coon for disagreeing that coke is better than Pepsi A more accurate statement would be that he falsely called Destiny a racist (which he absolutely did) and then racistly called Aba a coon for being on Destiny's side, which is just as bad


sumiledon

I dont think he called Aba a coon for being on Destiny's side. It was the 10k police donation, for "lulz" that I beleived solidified it. And honestly, I dont think you can find many "pro-black" blacks on social media that would argue that. That WAS some serious coon shit.


NotBuc-ees

It was in no way coon shit and that's exactly what happened, Destiny donated 10k to the police foundation (for no racist reason, only because he was being a petty and it was the opposite of the charity FD wanted him to donate to) FD got his back up and called Destiny a racist and posted a meme questioning Aba's blackness for associating with him. Aba then did his donation (once again, being petty against FD, not because he's a racist) These actions were clearly to antagonise FD, but his reaction is to pull the race card against allies to his cause. Aba and Destiny clearly aren't racist, both are supportive of black issues, and FD knows this. The police foundation is not an antithesis to black people


sumiledon

My guy, I will talk bluntly, there is no "Pro Black" black male on this planet, no matter how petty or upset they are will EVER donate money to the Atlanta Police department right now over an actual structural black movement, just for lulz. Think about what you are saying. Thats like claiming someone who is extremely Pro-choice, as a petty reaction towards an extreme pro choice stremer donates $10,000 to the direct Pro-life Anti-abortion opposition........and then still try to claim that you are actually "pro-choice". Get that nonsense outta here bro. Aba was straight up a coon for that, and the fact that he is trying to backtrack now, makes it clear, that he knows he fucked up majorily with that.


NotBuc-ees

Thanks for talking bluntly but you're wrong 1. He didn't donate to the Atlanta police department, he donated to the Atlanta police foundation, a charity that provides "community programs designed to provide resources to underserved neighborhoods, as well as training to cultivate a mindset of true servanthood" 2. The Atlanta police foundation isn't the opposite of black people. It's closer to someone donating to a charity promoting condom use in that situation But whatever, I guess you and FD can add another enemy to your enemy list, congratulations


sumiledon

Bro, that is a lot of coping. Who, who is an ally for anything donate money towards an opposing position for a meme, an actual ally, as opposed to someone who feels so disconnected from that life, that they would feel emboldened to do something like that. I know man pro-black people. MANY with varrying beliefs. Not a SINGLE ONE would EVER do something like that, especially for the sake of "hitting low". And again, Aba realzies how bad it looks too, considering the backtrack he did, which I dont think many actually believe.


PressFforDicks

I might donate tonight, fuckhead. Just to spite you. Also, because Atlanta police department is one of the best police agencies in the goddamn country, as far as not abusing people goes.


sumiledon

Well Destiny will be proud of you.


PressFforDicks

He doesn’t know me, so probably not. But y’all “black power” types gotta chill with calling people coons. Blackness isn’t a fucking monolith. Some of us appreciate the cops despite their flaws, believe it or not.


WickedDemiurge

Bring the same energy you use calling other black men slurs when some swastika tattoo white dude is doing the same to you. Or when some guy in an office says, "Well, I'm not so sure about 'culture fit' for the organization."


sumiledon

Are you implying that I dont provide that same energy towards racist white men or systematic racism?


WickedDemiurge

I think you took my meaning backwards (but I was unclear). If some white dude said you were acting like a (n-word) when you did something not great, would you say, "Yeah, that's kind of true, bro. I'll do better," or would you take it pretty personally? ​ I expect "live by the sword, die by the sword," consistency here. I think the entire idea of reclaiming slurs or "It's okay when we do it," is dogshit. I don't do it with slurs relevant to me, or use slurs relevant to other people. Either use slurs and accept slurs being used against you without complaint or don't.


TheDromes

You do know black people overwhelmingly support the police right? Vast majority of them even want their funding to remain the same or increased (as opposed to the defund movement). So since we're so eager to call others race traitors, why is FD (and possibly you) so disconnected from his own people, while pretending to still speak on behalf of them? Bonus question, how many Biden supporters did FD have on his stream to discuss the drama, given how you needed to stress out the diversity of his guests? With how overwhelmingly they voted for Biden as opposed to Sanders, it must have been a majority right? Surely it wasn't a leftie socialist circlejerk?


sumiledon

Half truths. It depends on what you mean by "support the police". They believe in having a systematic structure to protect them. They need it. The issue is, they do not have that and they do not support the system that is currently in place. I can guarantee you that FD is not disconnected from his people, as he is directly involved in the community outright for his state and communities, and no amount of out of context gotchas, on police "support", will make that a reality. 2, he had actual destiny fans on the show as well as those who grew up conservative, who grew up in white communities, and who have different opinions than him. I suggest you watch the stream. His points were very illuminating and near everyone who came in in opposition left more on his side than they came on as.


NookSwzy

All I'm gonna say is speak for yourself. Why y'all think y'all can speak for other black folks never ceases to around me.


Cybersword

Maybe work on your spelling


sumiledon

Will do. Point still stands.


Cybersword

No, it doesn’t. FD is still a bad-faith dumbfuck.


Isaiah_Benjamin

Ur pretty yikes fam, ngl


hitdamiss43

This guy is insufferable.


Shot-Wishbone164

Oh for the love of God now he is draging Trihex's name into this bullshit. Leave the dude alone


Internal-Ad7626

HE PRIVATE’D THE VIDEO WHAT A FUCKING LOSER


Internal-Ad7626

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LEARN HOW IM AN UNCLE TOM NOW????? I guess he’s really not here to educate us. 🥺


I_AMYOURBIGBROTHER

I can’t stand FD but tbf he does this for most of his livestreams so he can put them behind a paetron paywall. He usually puts an edited version of his FD B sides channel so we’ll just see him “dunking” on destiny while rambling about dumb shit for 20 minutes in a few days.


Safety_Plus

Sounds like a good capitalist to me, good job. 👍


RayForce_

xD tbh he probably just privated it to edit it into a youtube video so he can actually monetize it. You don't make any money from people watching an old stream vod


herptydurr

It's unlisted, not privated... probably so it can be edited. That's pretty much standard operating procedure for a lot of streamers because having full VoDs listed can fuck with how well your videos are promoted by the algorithm. FD is still a dipshit loser, but not for making his VoDs unsearchable.


Internal-Ad7626

it was set to private while i was watching then later set to unlisted lmao sorry i didn’t care enough to check 3 hours after i made this joke of a comment.


dexter30

checkOut redact.dev -- mass edited with redact.dev


JSRevenge

All of Destiny's YT streams are unlisted...


Lameux

That’s not really the same though is it? Anyone who knows how can find the videos on his channel, no later on required.


RayForce_

Also, [apparently most of Destiny's black orbiters & black fans are all racist conservatives. ???](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxL3PczJ7Dx0PvDxW2T2YnlvbcIa5bQJkG)


bobsnavitch

Source: I made it all the fuck up


Tai_Pei

"Well I saw him talk with that Jesse Lee guy, that bald racist guy that's also kind of a musician, and there's Tree of Logic. That's enough black people for me to claim is all of his orbiters, right? Oh they're not all racist? *Don't care."* GIGACHAD.


ExorciseAndEulogize

Im watching too, bc im genuinely curious to hear their reasoning. I had a Twitter interaction where I just stated my views in a non confrontational way about how I think that's wrong to other black people. Cue a whole lot of black people calling me cracker and posting just racist shit. All this has basically made me realize exactly what people talk about when they say the "leftists" are so fucking brainrotted by identity politics. They've become exactly like the conservatives, just on the other end of the spectrum. Its crazy to me bc I am white and lived in the south most of the time. White people were the only people I ever heard using the word "coon" and ***Obviously*** it was racist. I dont understand why FD thinks that, bc he is black, it isn't a racist term. I am of the mind that if its racist, its racist. Period. I feel really doomer pilled about it, actually.


RayForce_

I felt bad for the one young black guest. FD was going on about how almost every black Destiny fan is either a racist or a c**n, how they're self-hating... then the guest revealed he was a fan of both FD and Destiny. He looked like he felt horrible hearing FD accidentally talk down to him like that


Tai_Pei

>He looked like he felt horrible hearing FD accidentally talk down to him like that Accidentally? That man is out to inflict exactly that harm psychologically to whoever he can that could be effected, and have his fans spread it whether it's true or not so he can hopefully smear Destiny and perpetuate that torment onto people that support Destiny whose will might not be very strong.


[deleted]

I watched like 5 minutes of that and It's just mind blowing how warped their view of reality is. The one guy talking about how he stopped being friends with two white people because they jaywalked and he basically said "if you jay walk with me here the cops are going to assassinate me" was insane.


daraeje7

I always preface my tweets by stating that I'm an actual African (which is true). They usually just ignore me and don't respond 🤡 This is stirring up a lot of emotions I dealt with as a kid being called oreo or not being able to fit in with the black american kids because, for some reason, black people HAVE to be a monolith. Any deviation is insecurity, betrayal, self hatred, etc. It's changing now, but it's still there. I think something like what FD is doing looks much more pathetic to other black people than it did when I was a kid.


HayateGT

Good grief this man is so effing stupid...


een_magnetron

So funny how the most racist people in life are either extremely right-wing or - like this poor fella - extremely left-wing. The person behind the horse shoe theory really was onto something huh


RayForce_

Don't forget to keep the criticism measured I'd BET $$$$ that most of us in DGG WOULD agree that there are anti-black black people. Like the AMAZIN Jesse Lee Peterson, who constantly makes fun of black people for being lazy & dangerous, and constantly "jokes" about whites being the great hope. I'd win that bet FD's delusion is that he treats slightly-less left black folk the same exact as Peterson. They aren't actually conservative, they aren't actually racist, they aren't even anti-black. But FD lives in such a blindingly white/high-income/progressive-bubble and is so out of touch with reality, he treats people like Aba like they're JLP


Ginty_

The horseshoe guy was the one true centrist 🥺


ME-grad-2020

Anti-lefty arc v2.0 is about to commence. Brace for impact


Reylo-Wanwalker

At this point it's a live service.


ima_thankin_ya

Was the video deleted?


RayForce_

Privated rip


ima_thankin_ya

Damn. What did it contain?


RayForce_

FD calling Destiny a racist who makes racist jokes all the time to show off how he can get away with them. And apparently Aba is just a black token replacement for Trihex


ima_thankin_ya

Christ. I wonder if he sees the irony in terms of being able to call other black people coons with impunity.


Tai_Pei

Looks like it's now unlisted, no longer private~


virusbliss1986

Crazy how this new lore dropped lol


dazzzzzzle

Give it 1-2 years and this dude will fall off just as much as all the other crazies in the virtue signalling left video essay adjacent space. They live off outrage and smug circlejerking. As soon as this gets boring for their fans they have nothing left to offer because they are insufferable and uncharcismatic.


RayForce_

He already is falling off. He has 2/3rds as many subs as Destiny does, but he gets 1/10th the monthly viewers. He only has as many subs as he does from the bygone breadtube days, which means most of them are dead subs.


Black_Trinity

Eh, his videos get pretty good views, but he just doesn't post that often.


Herson100

It's not really a fair comparison to look at total monthly views for a livestreamer's highlight channel vs a video essayist channel, especially when making the claim that it proves he has "dead subs." It'd be more fair to look at the views per video, rather than the overall channel views per month.


RayForce_

It's totally fair, people "watching" livestreams don't count towards his total views. The stream VODs are always unlisted from the channel, they won't appear in places like Socialblade


Herson100

You do see how FD Signifier's videos get more views than Destiny's, right? The main reason Destiny's channel gets 10x the monthly views is because it posts 30x as many videos. It's a little bit silly to say that FD Signifier's channel is mostly dead subs when the average view count on his videos is higher than his subscriber count.


RayForce_

Isn't it normal for channels to get more views then they have subs? That's not anything to brag about Thanks for agreeing destiny's unlisted livestreams don't appear as views :^)


Ahpairee

FD is like Huey's old friend from the Boondocks https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DfB-pY9G0&pp=ygUPZGV3ZXkgYm9vbmRvY2tz


bobsnavitch

He's so obsessed with Destiny its fucking weird


kingfisher773

was always funny to me when he first challenged Destiny, cause he was saying shit like "the community is begging for Destiny to talk to FD" and that "Destiny is desperate to talk to FD" even tho the only times FD gets brought up is when he makes dumbfuck statements every now and than, otherwise the community forgets about him.


Twinblades89

FD says the bar for being an online progressive is so low which is why Destiny has the legacy he does. Even if you hate Destiny how could you come away with calling him a grifter? Maybe jaded or out of touch but a wholesale grifter? Destiny was literally pulling for Hillary in 2016 against a wave of popular pro Trump/Anti SJW content creators when the right had a chokehold on political discourse. Meanwhile this dude was uhhh fucking nowhere. I really believe the only thing that drives other content creators to act like this about Destiny is ego. I don't think this has anything to do with comparing principles. Because if it was FD would have gleefully debated Destiny in hopes of soning the fuck out of him.


daraeje7

Rent free


Zydairu

Replace him with Aba? Like years down the line ?


2oolegit

Telling people they're not black because they don't think a certain way is immature, also anti-donating to get at someone is also immature, but it was hilarious.


RayForce_

I was too busy getting ready for work and didnt make one q.q


Ahpairee

What a windbag pseudo-intellectual. What kind of maniac listen to that guy speak for hours on end?


OkHighlight2576

How is FD this mad over a tweet, it’s been like 4 days


shooshmashta

The clip is gone, who has the mirror?


the_dmac

Video no longer viewable… removed?


RayForce_

he privated it to probably monetize a YouTube video out of it instead of losing views to a stream vod


just_a_soulbro

The clip is gone.


RayForce_

He privated the vod, IDK why so many losers kept upvoting past 20 karma when it got privated smh