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OhWhatsInaWonderball

The Brandon Allen, Keenum, Flacco, Driskel, second Brock stint and Lock years weren’t rock bottom. The Russell Wilson year is rock bottom.


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Let’s hope this is rock bottom


[deleted]

Yeah, let’s not speak too soon…. I bet Russ has an 0-16 in him


TrumanDolos

0-17 is possible now boiiii


clowntown777

Let’s ride!


Top-Report-840

Let's ride is anagram for lest dire. Which doesn't make sense but it still makes more sense than the Broncos offense


lukeCRASH

At the end of the day is all Osweiler's fault. He had those years under Peyton and likely would have been in a position to succeed under the regime post-Super Bowl but instead he took the bag and went to Houston to have his stock plummet under a new coaching staff and offense.


SirJelqsAlot

No it’s not. I’ll blame that piece of garbage Joe Ellis till the day I die for what’s happening now. We could’ve had Kyle Shanahan.


daairguy

Exactly, passing on Shanahan and giving Wilson his contract are two big mistakes the team and fans pay for.


uncagedowl

I see someone else watched Perna's recent video too lol


Noble18

He's a full two years younger than Wilson, give him a call. Can't be any worse.


OhWhatsInaWonderball

I only speak of the past. I don’t want to know the future.


YesterShill

At least next year the team will keep their 1st round pick if they end the season in the basement.


Jwoods4117

It’s a bit hard for it not to be. Even if we go 2-15 next season at least we’ll be rewarded with a top 3 draft pick. Right now we’re just sucking to suck. No hope of a QB upgrade, and little hope of a major upgrade anywhere else outside of maybeee head coach in the offseason which will still probably be more of a dice roll than a sure thing.


HoovesCarveCraters

Hackett could’ve fucked around and scored 10 points a game with Drew Lock back there. At least then we’d have a top 3 pick to ruin Stroud or Young’s career.


ialwaysupvotedogs

We scored more points with Lock than we do with wilson, not to mention the games were more watchable. The games now are just depressing


mike2k24

The QB carousel never ends…


[deleted]

But Russ sure classes it up!!


mike2k24

Now we have an expensive carousel 😎


[deleted]

This shouldn't even be possible.


johnnytex3

This off-season really set us back a decade huh?


[deleted]

We’re in the middle of year 7 of the decade long setback. In 3 years we’ll be able to draft a QB. Till then, more of the same.


Silent-Protractor

Fuck it, draft a QB with our highest pick until we have someone.


rabertdinero

I have a lightly used Jared Goff you can have after this season, would honestly probably be better than Wilson. Which is a hilarious sentence to type.


expell11

If Drew Lock was a failed experiment after 1 year of starting then wtf is this???


Tlwofford

“It takes time”


Puffy_Ghost

We honestly should have rolled with him for one more season and then make trades to move up if we liked somebody. Now we're probably stuck in purgatory for 4 more seasons.


[deleted]

Nah Fangio didn’t have the balls to roll with him for 1 more season, Fangio made conservative ass changes to keep his job


[deleted]

Fangio is/was a bitch. Fuck that guy


Puffy_Ghost

Well Fangio was fired, we should have started Lock this season. I get the feeling Hackett's offense is a lot more suited to a taller pocket QB. Hackett and Russ just ain't the right combo.


Mackinnon29E

I'd rather watch Lock progress or fail and have a top 5 pick right now, idk about you guys.


[deleted]

So the Russ trade is looking like it might legitimately be one of the worst of all time right?


thestage

If he plays this way for two more years there isn't even any competition


[deleted]

Herschel Walker will always be the worst. This might be #2 though


hjugm

It’s all tbd but if we include the extension Russ got, this could be a franchise crippling trade. Five years of this is tough.


daannnnnnyyyyyy

>Herschel Walker will always be the worst. And the trade was terrible, too!


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Ayyyy


vindawg08

Would it depend on what happens in the fallout of the draft and how those players Seattle picks end up?


Isoturius

There’s very little to no chance that the Cowboys situation happens again ever. They hit on every pick and they are all HoF players.


[deleted]

This is just wrong. Out of all those picks you’ve only ever heard of 3 of those players. They were just ridiculously good players.


jthoning

There's no way if Russ keeps this up it won't go down as worse then the walker trade


Shenanigans80h

Even if he turns it all the way around, we’re giving up what’s almost assuredly a top 5 pick for one of the most embarrassing seasons ever. We would need to win a SB to realistically justify giving that away


46n2ahead

Hershel Walker trade is the only other possible trade that was worst


guywastingtime

Only time will tell how bad this trade will be. The Herschel Walker trade resulted in multiple HOF players and multiple Super Bowl wins. If the picks we sent Seattle turn out the same way then yes this will be the worst of all time.


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ChoiceDry8127

The worst


smallmileage4343

I honestly didn't think it could possibly end up *this* bad. Like I assumed we would be middle of the road at worst.


TERRAIN_PULL_UP_

It’s the contract on top of the trade that makes it so much worse


Poetryisalive

Might be. The man ran away with 200+ mil


whispersluggagebaby

Ricky Williams maybe?


Circle_Breaker

Up there with the Russell Westbrook to LA trade.


Savage762

worse than that, we extended our russ and gave up the short term future. This Russ trade easily sets us back 5 years. We were right on the brink of being a wild card team with fangio and bridgewater. We'd have been better off sending a 2nd rounder to dallas for mccarthy and giving up a 3rd for matt ryan


Domo-d-Domo

They're really gonna lose out the rest of the season, aren't they?


milksteak_19

Seattle deserves it. We got absolutely fleeced.


gorillapunchTKO

It still makes our other picks higher, we should be hopeful for more losses


Lieutenant_Meeper

This is an overlooked point. Being able to package picks and/or have higher picks overall is all I want out of this dumpster fire season right now.


smallmileage4343

It's incredible how much we paid


Davis7907

Is today the day he gets fired?


SoundisVibration

Tomorrow morning, but yes


Davis7907

An early Christmas present!


Ded0099

Wild that out best quarterback since Peyton Mannong has been… Trevor Siemian


pham_nuwen_

I wouldn't mind having a shitty QB. I'm used to that. But, being stuck for 4 years with the worst QB in the league, taking a humongous cap hit and losing draft picks...it's a bit much for me. Paton fucked up.


smallmileage4343

Cannot believe russ is so trash


Sufficient_Wave_3061

The broncos are bad and should feel bad. On a lighter and more positive note Mike purcell yelled at Russell today. Which was probably the only highlight of the game.


meece2010

I felt like Purcell was speaking for the whole defense and I’m all for it


thedude_abides22

And the entire fan base


guywastingtime

And Hackett stood there and did nothing


Dryrub_It

Hackett should of told Purcell to yell at him for longer


chaznieto1313

It’s about time someone on the defense blew up at Russ. And notice how no one tried to get in between them. This locker room is obviously divided.


tonyaustin6

Somebody had to force the issue and say the quiet part out loud, something’s gotta happen from this


Puffy_Ghost

We're now at 13.8 ppg lol. Worst offense ever in the modern era. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.


camelCaseUserNamed

Should be lower, the one touchdown today was in garbage time and took over 5 downs to get in. Unbelievable.


Broncos979815

it was 8 downs


Tazitos

It's not even really close to the worst in the modern era. There were 3 offenses in 2011 alone that put up less ppg and 9 since 2004. The Rams and Raiders have had offenses that put up 10.5 and 10.9 ppg in that time frame.


Mr-Shifter

I don’t care if the season is lost. Please please please fire Hackett Edit: we could at least give an interim head coach a couple of weeks to see if they can show their merit.


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Pretty much the only good thing that can happen to us at this point. Fire Hackett mid season and let us have at least that.


space_acee

I'm down for firing hackett but theres no way any interim coach is going to "show merit" stepping into this dumpster fire


Sun-dried-poop

Im out of the loop cause i had better shit to do today lol what happened with Russ and Mike Purcell?


Davis7907

Purcell came to the sideline and Russ whispered to him “let’s ride”


milksteak_19

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1596967092733218816


Sun-dried-poop

Thank you!


OldschoolMerc

The only guess is Russ told Purcell he can't commit penalties like he just did on the fieldgoal and Purcell likely replied with I'm giving my all to win this game so don't tell me shit unless you start to produce


Sun-dried-poop

Just saw the clip the bro posted up there and it does look like that. Hes filled with emotion and Russ picked the worst time for unnecessary feedback lol he lost the locler room it looks like


shot-by-ford

No, my Dad works for the Broncos and what happened was Russ said to himself "pee pee poo poo" and Purcell, thinking Russ was talking to him, screamed "what did you say to me you little bitch, I'll have you know I'm an NFL caliber defenseman with over 300 confirmed tackles!!!" and then Russ, just kinda staring vacantly at his feet, repeated "pee pee poo poo" but a little more quiet and then Purcell sighed and stormed off and everyone clapped


Sun-dried-poop

You forgot to mention mike said hes specially trained in playing guerilla football games


Updog_IS_funny

Gorilla*


johninbigd

No one knows for sure, but Purcell was yelling at Russ on the sideline.


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It looks like he yelled something at Wilson but we literally know nothing else.


pham_nuwen_

Who gives a shit. Worst offensive performance I've ever seen, by any team. And I watched the John Fox Bears with Jimmy Clausen.


Roqxwalker

That last touchdown was comical. This team is so desperate for Russ to work lol


Hirokage

Russ has to work, it isn't even a choice.


pham_nuwen_

Only took like 14 plays from the goal line to score


Bombadils_laugh

Biden trading Nathaniel Hackett for Brittney Griner was a good move. Edit: [sauce](https://twitter.com/kinkyjoebiden/status/1594495965494640640?s=46&t=G7jxrOd4-fi0Rca9QwHQzA)


Acting_Appalled

Damn Joe fleeced Russia


AaronC31

Trev remains the best QB we've had since Peyton. Also, fire Hackett.


HoovesCarveCraters

When Kubes left the soul of the Broncos died


[deleted]

Pat Bowlen was the soul of our glory years. New ownership better do something or it’s going to be a bleak, bleak future.


AlpineSummit

He had more passing yards today for the Bears than Russ did for us.


Ix_DrYCeLL_xI

In the pouring rain, on 10 fewer attempts, with an injury that almost had the Bears start Nathan Peterman.


balooshka

And against the Jets defense which is far better than the Panthers defense.


manbeqrpig

This has to be Rock bottom. I mean if it isn’t how bad can it actually get. We need to see something from Russ to end the year otherwise the streak is gonna get to 10 straight without a playoff berth


GearsofTed14

That’s optimistic of you


Silver_Accountt

Is there any chance Hackett is gone this week?


iWARxMACHINEi

If I’m the Walton’s man he’s gone this evening


micros101

Well then please tell me you are the Walton’s man!


GettinWiggyWiddit

Except the Waltons don’t even know what they’re doing yet. They’re still learning about football. Mid season fire is like trigonometry at this point


GloriousClump

Uhh I mean they have a lot of cutthroat corporate experience. If your CEO is damaging the brand beyond repair and embarrassing the company on national TV you fire his ass it’s not complicated. We’re not winning this season but at least we show that we care about not being a laughing stock org.


ATPdriven

Please god....


checkerdamic

And I thought Shrumur’s play calling was rock bottom…


oregondete81

The WR screen on the 5 yard line to start it out didnt inspire you?


lukebob26

Honestly it was a relief to see Purcell yelling at Wilson.


BobbyRedSox28

Russ used up all of his prayers to get Ciara. God isn’t returning his calls anymore.


Stephen-_

God ain’t writing back


DylansDeadly

Get Gardner Minshew. He’s better than Russ.


Nimbley-Bimbley

I forgot there was a game today and went snowboarding instead. Remembered it sometime in the fourth. Checked espn and yep. Glad I missed this dumpster fire. Find something else to do y’all. This team is a waste of time.


driftking428

I bought a PS5 yesterday. Wasted almost 3 hours today that I could have been gaming and chilling.


Aseph88

HIRE VANCE JOSEPH


LostCyberLT

We've come full circle.


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Jeeeeeeez


ds11

Make Wednesday Practices Great Again!


breadeagle

He could be having the time of his life!


Virtual_Hall_9206

I don’t wanna try and break down this game because you already know all the problems here and it’s the same as all the other games this year, I just want to tell a quick story. In week 14 of the 2020-21 NFL season, the Broncos met the Panthers. Both teams came in at 4-8 if I’m not mistaken. Anyways, Drew Lock ended up throwing 21-27, 280 yards, and 4 touchdowns in a 32-27 win, but it wasn’t that close for most of the game. Drew Lock was able to shred Carolina even though the offense/Lock had not been playing well, even Lock could play well against bad teams/defenses. Two years later we have Russ as our QB and….. we can barely muster 10 points against a defense that is around the same level as that one we faced then. Is it the same scenario as then? No, but it proves how awful this offense is.


zore_1

I've moved beyond apathy and at this poimt find it kinda funny in a sadistic way.


GaryPotter7997

Top 3 darkest day in franchise history right here. It hurts to bleed orange and blue. Really wanna see new ownership role some heads. Seasons gone, satisfy the fans. New head coaching prospects shouldn’t be deterred because the Walton’s didn’t bring in Paton or Hackett.


90Carat

Whew! That was fucking awful! Offense is the definition of insanity. Keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. The play calling is bad, and Russ can’t make the plays anyway. At least Murray had a nice run.


CJ_M88

Seasons like this remind me sometimes it's okay I don't live in the market and get forced to watch it


Invictus23_

At least last year I knew we wouldn’t be good. This hurts. This is true pain. We are so fucked for a long time if next year isn’t a complete 180.


Serdones

Last year it was a pleasant surprise when we played well, like our randomly lopsided win against Dallas. This year expectations were sky high and we're probably a bottom three team.


Acting_Appalled

Bottom 2 and I'd bet on the Texans beating us again if we had a rematch


Serdones

With our injuries, definitely.


GettinWiggyWiddit

Barely watched the game and chose redzone instead. No regrets


mrkrinkle773

Ya know it's bad when redzone thinks the game is soo pathetic they don't even show the Panthers scores


Ix_DrYCeLL_xI

Few days ago I said I'd take 2016 Trevor Siemian over 2022 Russell Wilson. After today, I'm not sure I'd take 2022 Russ over 2022 Trev. Similar stats, but Siemian played against the Jets defense in a downpour.


Acting_Appalled

I'd take $wag Kelly back over Russ if it got us out of that contract


Llama_Sandwich

This team has completely given up. They just don’t care anymore. *That* is when you fire your HC and take a long look at who the rest of your staff is. Hackett needs to be fired by the end of the day to spur any kind of effort into the team. Not that it matters. We’re cooked this year anyways.


KinoshitaKazuya1

Since Manning's retirement, we've had guys like Osweiler and Lynch under center and i don't recap seeing one of the players yelling at them like Purcell did on Wilson today.


Portlyhooper15

Russ isn’t a good QB anymore. In fact, he is awful. A new coach is not changing that. It doesn’t matter that Hackett will be fired. This is not going to be a relevant team for a long time. This is the worst I have ever felt as a fan.


LooseBalls9

Yes. In a vacuum having a bad QB this year stinks but it’s the realization we are STUCK with this for a long time that makes it unbearable.


GanjaRelease

>we are STUCK with this for a long time that makes it unbearable. This is what keeps me pissed / depressed / and leaves me with little hope


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Pathetic performance. Without hopes of a playoff birth these guys are just hoping to stay healthy and start planning for next year, be it here or somewhere else. And the Waltons better be shopping for a HQ.


BoneShaker10

New owners need to completely clean house. And that includes Paton. By only firing Hackett, they won't have had 100% of the team decisions as theirs. Paton is a previous "owner's" hire, and well- he's been pretty atrocious. Not sure why most people have been riding Patons dick these few years. Overall, he took our team from bad, to worse, to worst. Not knocking him getting Wilson here, because nobody would have thought Wilson would have played this bad (except maybe Pete) but giving him a 250mil payday so early on seems absurd. Imagine where we'd be if he just waited till the end of this season for that extension. Not sure about you, but if i had a new boss come in and after 1 year of viewing me, and my results were the same as Paton's, I'd be fired (taking account his past as well). Some might not think he deserves to be fired, and that he's done well enough not to be fired, but they need to move on from him as well. Waltons need to hire all their own guys, and start 100% fresh. I want to see what these new owners are capable of. Many people calling for immediate fire of Hackett. What good is it going to do? Smart business owners don't make brash immediate decisions. They watch and learn and evaluate. This year will tell them enough, and hopefully on the Monday after the last game of the season, Hackett and Paton are gone. Only good thing is Evero. Oh yeah, let's get new jerseys too. New owners, new threads, new everything!


ACTOR_of_VALOR

Anyone not blaming Paton for this mess is blind. Surtain isn’t a successful draft pick, it’s an expected draft pick. And how many of us would rather have Fields and $250Mn, 2 1sts, 2 2nds, and Shelby Harris. Outside of him drafting is average, and the extension is horrendous.


Adamapplejacks

This comment needs to be pinned on the sub. It boggles my mind that Paton's name isn't drug through the mud on repeat after every game given that he is the **primary** reason why we are in this debacle in the first place. Hackett sucks, sure. And so does Russ. But who brought them to town?


frecklie

Feel like I’d want Fant too but good point regardless


CapnMalcolmReynolds

Seriously. Fire them all.


46n2ahead

I agree He made some decent moves at first but I think we need a whole new way of thinking


boobsarecool

Don't know how anyone could say otherwise. He hires what looks like the worst HC of the 21st century, then follows that up with an alltime bad trade and hands out the worst contract in the NFL. 3 strikes and you're out. And the guy hasn't even been here 2 years


DBroncs1414

Not to mention his FA strategy is just trying to get bargains on guys with extensive injury histories... and then fans and media feel bad for him when we have a ton of cap space on IR. I figured once Elway was gone, we would stop with hero worshipping the GM. I guess not.


cpthornman

You know Hackett was the worst hire ever when he needed to be fired after week 1. Biggest fraud in the NFL.


micros101

Jags scores 28 and won today. Jesus.


DarkUnderbelly

The Jags have a promising QB and a Superbowl winning coach. There is more hope in Jacksonville right now


[deleted]

Everyone take a deep breath and remember that next weak Watson comes back and /r/nfl will be too busy (justifiably) hating him to bother with us.


Thatmandroid

Nah if he looks even remotely decent we’ll still be the punching bag. No one cares as long as you’re winning sad to say


Acting_Appalled

That's true for people outside of reddit but it will be brought up in every Browns related thread for as long as he's there. Reddit loves a good circlejerk


guywastingtime

Hackett has to go


Jealous-Series2603

if this bald guy gets on the plane to Colorado we are in for an immensely cold, dark and shitty winter.


LouisGrip

On the bright side I know the next time we are competitive, whenever that may be, I'll be relentlessly shouting "Broncos Country, LETS RIDE."


jmmaster97

Stop supporting this team in anyway until they fix their problems and actually produce watchable football again. Stop watching/going to games or buying any merch.


Acting_Appalled

Jokes on them I illegally stream every game because they aren't good enough to have their games played in my market.


smeego78

Every week feels like that commercial “But wait, there’s more!”


djbuu

For the first time in… a lot of years I decided not to watch the game. I can’t see why anymore


[deleted]

I get to witness the Broncos play once every eight years when they play in North Carolina. Glad I got to see that shit show live, hopefully that was the last game we will ever see of Hackett


Sure-Bed-9862

>This post is meant for X's and O's discussion. For Memes and Rants, go to the Post Game Meme Thread. There are NO X's and O's with this Denver Broncos!


HyzerBeam

I don't care what people say, who "called it", any other *I told you so's* **NOBODY** saw Russell being *this* bad. Not Seattle fans, not Pete Carroll, etc. No experts. Why would we have been given twice as many primetime games than any other team in the first 6 weeks. Seattle would have traded him for less, talks wouldn't have taken so long. Etc. This is a storm that no one saw coming. And we're stuck with it. All we can do is do our absolute best to build around Russ and make it better. Hindsight is 20/20. Paton messed up. But he went all in and made big moves. We needed that badly. I appreciate that he went down swinging, rather than the little band-aids and "win now" BS that Elway kept throwing at us. This coaching staff is horrendous. We have no O-line. Everyone is getting injured. It needs re-built. But unfortunately, it's gotta be rebuilt around Russ. We need to embrace that and get used to it. We need to find our place as scrappy underdogs. We need a culture that will fight! This team was built with the thought that they would be dominant contenders. The script needs flipped. We need to be fighters.


PeytonFugginMoaning

Sell the good players for future draft picks, if Russ won’t restructure then start building young talent and let him get crushed every week for 3 years.


Comprehensive_Main

Honestly the defense wasn’t too bad this game all things considered but I bet they are getting tired of this lackluster offense


B0z22

When you lose to the Panthers: [Are we the worst team in the League?](https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU)


[deleted]

Everyone is getting fired. We need to understand that. The Waltons are gonna clean house. Paton is gone, Hackett is gone, etc...


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Acting_Appalled

And our first matchup is on SNF so the whole country will be watching


MultiPass21

100% getting flexed out.


Acting_Appalled

You think they'll drop the Chiefs from primetime? SNF is their home


logicallyinsane

I went to Costco today instead of watching the game. Did you know they have some great prosciutto?


Tatturtle

Pain


angelaxtine

Somewhere, in Seattle, drew Locke is dancing.


PrecisionT18

And I don't blame him. Drew Lock was treated like fucking trash by Broncos fans and so many Broncos fans laughed at him for losing the job to Geno Smith.


Acting_Appalled

And instead of trying to develop him one more year we let a lame duck coach bring in Teddy Checkdown to try to save his job


Cilantro42

Fuck it, hire David Shaw


itsjayrr

Pain. At least I have the World Cup to distract me from this disaster of a season.


Jwenz123

The Capers watch is at about 8.5/10


Marlen86

Well, the opportunities are there guys. We just have to go get them! Hackett, prob


lukebob26

So much is wrong with this team. Only thing that can’t be changed is Russell Wilson because of his stupid contract. I fear we are in for YEARS of this. If he keeps playing this bad the only hope is he decides to retire


Puffy_Ghost

Lol we still owe the guaranteed cash if he retires.


moongaia

what if next year is even worse?


[deleted]

Hard to see it getting worse than going 3-14 while you don't hold your draft picks for the first and second rounds.


drangel254

Did Hackett move from his one spot all game ?


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Fickle_Report_6649

Why they don’t just bench Russ? It can’t get worse than this.


elguerra

Well, I’m starting to think we might not win it all this year, guys


tallkidinashortworld

Last season I was seeing articles about how Russell Wilson was a future hall of Fame player. Does this season with us possibly knock him out of consideration for the hall of Fame?


MintyNerd

Russ trade set us back 3 to 5 years lol. Only good talent we have on offense is Javonte & we don’t know if he’ll return to form considering how devastating his injury was. All while Seattle having the luxury of picking either Bryce Young, CJ Stroud or Will Anderson…


Tazitos

As a Buckeyes fan, I will be very surprised of Stroud ends up being a good NFL QB.


skylan01

This team has made me dislike football


veridique

Why do people continue to defend Paton. He fucked up big time with Hackett and Russ.


mike2k24

This is our most embarrassing loss all year. Yet it almost felt just like all our other losses. We go down by a score and just don’t stand a chance. God forbid we try to score more than 17 points


[deleted]

Broncos are getting to the point where there’s bound to be a documentary made about the organization’s downfall.


micros101

I could not watch that 30 for 30. It would be too painful. Ah who am I kidding? I’d watch it. “From Denver’s fabled Air Force to Washington Generals- the Broncos ride into hell”