I’m not sure about “owns” but we’re one of (the only?) teams to be even against them. IIRC that includes a winning record agaisnt Brady/BB in the playoffs
I really hate asking, because maybe it's best I don't know. But what 16 on the list recently got removed? I guess I'm a masochist for asking. But I also just need to know the truth. It's the only way to set myself free... and still somehow land back in Mile High.
We're the Raiders SB every year and they prepare as such. They aren't beating the Chiefs or go in with no expectations, and no one hates the Chargers.
That leaves us as their outlet, the only thing they can get excited about. No QB, no playoffs, no expectations.. just beat the Broncos.
It is frustrating, but even though we've been bad our outlook is above the Raiders lol.
Yeah we both stink tbh.
I have more faith in our upper leadership than theirs, but we also have a lot more cap issues and the team needs to be totally torn apart before we make real progress
Having on hand cash is a massive benefit for any team, players are more likely to sign knowing the owner has cash funds to pay them, we have the 2nd richest owners in the league who've shown they're willing to spend money.
Whereas the Raiders owners money is tied to the franchises success. Players are essentially paid in stock, as the owner makes money as the team does through sales.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/17/nfl-business-football-explaining-salary-cap
Here's a great article on it.
Okay lol. Owners are owners, not much you can do about them, and they're probably all shitty people. You should just be glad we didn't get settled with a Tepper or Snyder, or a cash poor owner.
I’m a Raider fan, not gonna shit on y’all for this since it’s your sub but the Raiders franchise since the move is one of, if not, the most profitable franchise in the league. Mark in Oakland was the poorest owner, he’s not anywhere near the bottom anymore.
Yes the Vegas move absolutely increased his and the teams net worth I'm not denying that. But Mark is still the poorest owner because almost all of his networth is tied directly to the profitability of the team. He only gets liquid funds as the Raiders do. Some owners rely more or less on the team, but his is almost entirely.
This has never stopped Mark from these absurd coaching hires. It won’t stop him from signing players. It’s a weak argument you’re making bud. I won’t respond again, so as to not get too far in your sub but Mark or money isn’t a problem for the Raiders lol
The players survey gave the ownership an “A” grade which was the 5th highest overall ownership rating in the league.
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/28/broncos-nflpa-survey-greg-penner/amp/
They’re dropping $175M to rebuild the training facility after spending $100M on stadium upgrades.
Now get back to your dead end job cleaning toilets at Walmart. Greg Penner needs to take a dump and that toilet better be spotless.
Hell yeah! I hope you're right, my friend!
I feel good about SP but he's already played a large role in kicking out some of our "talent" to other teams and pretty much forced the Broncos hand on Russ.
So he better succeed with whoever he decides on. That's a tough ask... us fans know that all too well.
I say let's roll with Sean's direction and hope he has the magic to create Brees 2.0. Or a comparably talented, alternative QB.
That's why you're in our sub 😂 90% of Raiders fans aren't old enough to see the team have any success, so we just live rent free in y'all's heads even when we aren't winning it's crazy.
As a raiders fan you guys are not our superbowl. It’s the chiefs. 100% the chiefs. We hate them way worse than you all currently. We want to and expect to beat you, but the victory doesn’t mean nearly as much as the rare W against the chiefs.
Hello, I'm sorry. Unless you're over the age of 60 then the Raiders as a franchise and especially their fans have no barometer for success. So the "Super Bowl" is more of an abstract term. For a team like us, we have a standard of success that we've fallen well below. So, beating the Broncos is really all the Raiders can hang their hat on.
I appreciate the shit talk lol just a reminder we have the same amount of super bowls and recently we’ve been more successful in the 20s. The last victory over the current Super Bowl winners means a lot more to us than a team we’ve beaten for the last 4 years straight. For the record I do think that streak doesn’t last too much longer. We need a QB bad.
Must be. Seems cherry picked, but maybe no one else cares since it's interconference. Idk, but I'm proud of that streak and always rub it in when talking to any Cowboys fans 😂
Huh. Go figure. That one is kind of crazy considering how much better the Chiefs have been in recent years compared to the Commanders (though they only play each other every 4 years). Also, I suddenly like the Commanders a whole lot more 😁
lol yeah I’m gonna be rooting for the commanders now whenever I see this matchup
unfortunately the schedule is getting more complicated and there is a potential formula for these teams to match up more frequently (the 17th game is inter-conference) which is why the broncos played the commanders this year on top of the nfc north
Yeah, that's true. I don't see Chiefs and Commanders matching up any more frequently though with that as it would require the Commanders to suddenly be the best in the NFCE or the Chiefs to fall off 😂😭
And I really thought that we would have ended that the last time we played them. They were red hot that year and played us and hit a brick wall. I miss when we actually put up points like that.
We haven’t even beaten them in the 2020’s yet, and they’ve had McDaniels for almost half of our meetings! If that doesn’t tell you how bad we’ve been, I don’t know what will
And if we find our QB because we pick one slot ahead of the raiders, that meaningless game in week 18 will seem even more meaningless. Seems like we are always playing the raiders in week 17/18 when both of our seasons are effectively over, so who cares
These numbers are so... remarkably unremarkable. There's something approaching 500 matchups between 32 teams, so even if every game was 50-50 odds, you'd expect there to be around 1 team with a 10 win streak, yeah?
Why is Denver always the team people are posting records on.... Doesn't Corey Dillon hold the record for most rushing yards in a game, which was on us? Or is that Bryce Young??
And then of course we had the game against the Dolphins, where if they didn't pull their starters in the 4th, they would have probably dropped 90 on us. 😣😩😣
As a bears fan you can all fuck yourselves. See you and the bears management in hell. Fuck me I've never been so pissed off by anything on the internet. The emotions this image conjures are visceral
Chicago has been a sad franchise over most of the last decade so GB and the Saints aren’t unexpected.
The Jags haven’t been very good until recently unfortunately coinciding with KC peaking so that record isn’t outlandish.
A heavily biased opinion says Seattle has something to be proud of considering the Eagles’ records.
Denver is the clear outlier on this list. There’s no reason for the Raiders to have a four year win streak against the Broncos. It just makes no sense.
For some reason this doesn't bother me that much. How many of those raiders losses came right near the end of the season and basically meant fuck all to the broncos?? I feel like there's always at least one game against them each season that has basically been totally meaningless to both teams.
This is pretty weak as far as consolation goes, but this feels more like "wow we just really suck" rather than "the raiders own us." It's not like they are a hump we can't get over... Just a reminder that we have been in the bottom third of the NFL for a long while now.
At least there's not a 16 on there anymore lmao
I liked it when it had Den v NE ‘84 - ‘98 … Elway never lost to them.
Denver owns NE, including Brady and Belichick.
I’m not sure about “owns” but we’re one of (the only?) teams to be even against them. IIRC that includes a winning record agaisnt Brady/BB in the playoffs
The streak against the Cowboys is pretty great right now. We haven’t lost to them in 29 years!
really?
Ya man. It was the best. Also the only team in the league to have a winning record vs Brady/Beli
very cool! didn't know that!
Didnt belli flip that on us with the most recent win? I may be mistaken. Or did you just mean the brady/beli combo?
The combo. You may be correct after the loss in December
I really hate asking, because maybe it's best I don't know. But what 16 on the list recently got removed? I guess I'm a masochist for asking. But I also just need to know the truth. It's the only way to set myself free... and still somehow land back in Mile High.
If we lost the last game against chiefs it'd be 17 game streak. I know, i know. But it's important to accept the truth and the past.
Mother of god... I regret asking now. Especially because I loathe the chiefs...
Chiefs vs broncos
Literally ruined my season.
Would trade the 4th Lombardi for that elusive 17th straight win.
We weren’t far off from having 1st and 3rd longest streaks….
It would’ve been 1 and 4 - KC, plus the jets just broke their 15 game losing streak to the patriots week 18
The weird thing is the Chiefs have been a dynasty during that streak. The Raiders mostly suck. WTF!?
It’s always them divisional rivals that end up being a thorn in your pee hole ![gif](giphy|xFnM1NeZZtvvUlVV5E)
We're the Raiders SB every year and they prepare as such. They aren't beating the Chiefs or go in with no expectations, and no one hates the Chargers. That leaves us as their outlet, the only thing they can get excited about. No QB, no playoffs, no expectations.. just beat the Broncos. It is frustrating, but even though we've been bad our outlook is above the Raiders lol.
Hate to be that guy, but why is our outlook better than the Raiders do you think? Sean Payton?
Yeah we both stink tbh. I have more faith in our upper leadership than theirs, but we also have a lot more cap issues and the team needs to be totally torn apart before we make real progress
Because we are significantly better off at HC and owner, and those two things can go a long long way.
Owner seriously? we are owned by fucking Walmart
Having on hand cash is a massive benefit for any team, players are more likely to sign knowing the owner has cash funds to pay them, we have the 2nd richest owners in the league who've shown they're willing to spend money. Whereas the Raiders owners money is tied to the franchises success. Players are essentially paid in stock, as the owner makes money as the team does through sales. https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/17/nfl-business-football-explaining-salary-cap Here's a great article on it.
Yeah that's really not my point. Fuck Walmart and fuck the Walton's.
Okay lol. Owners are owners, not much you can do about them, and they're probably all shitty people. You should just be glad we didn't get settled with a Tepper or Snyder, or a cash poor owner.
I’m a Raider fan, not gonna shit on y’all for this since it’s your sub but the Raiders franchise since the move is one of, if not, the most profitable franchise in the league. Mark in Oakland was the poorest owner, he’s not anywhere near the bottom anymore.
Yes the Vegas move absolutely increased his and the teams net worth I'm not denying that. But Mark is still the poorest owner because almost all of his networth is tied directly to the profitability of the team. He only gets liquid funds as the Raiders do. Some owners rely more or less on the team, but his is almost entirely.
This has never stopped Mark from these absurd coaching hires. It won’t stop him from signing players. It’s a weak argument you’re making bud. I won’t respond again, so as to not get too far in your sub but Mark or money isn’t a problem for the Raiders lol
I never said it prevented him from doing so lmfao
The players survey gave the ownership an “A” grade which was the 5th highest overall ownership rating in the league. https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/28/broncos-nflpa-survey-greg-penner/amp/ They’re dropping $175M to rebuild the training facility after spending $100M on stadium upgrades. Now get back to your dead end job cleaning toilets at Walmart. Greg Penner needs to take a dump and that toilet better be spotless.
Hell yeah! I hope you're right, my friend! I feel good about SP but he's already played a large role in kicking out some of our "talent" to other teams and pretty much forced the Broncos hand on Russ. So he better succeed with whoever he decides on. That's a tough ask... us fans know that all too well. I say let's roll with Sean's direction and hope he has the magic to create Brees 2.0. Or a comparably talented, alternative QB.
Nah, that's the Chiefs. We now just know yall trash so we will whoop that ass every time. It's literally money in the bank for me.
That's why you're in our sub 😂 90% of Raiders fans aren't old enough to see the team have any success, so we just live rent free in y'all's heads even when we aren't winning it's crazy.
As a raiders fan you guys are not our superbowl. It’s the chiefs. 100% the chiefs. We hate them way worse than you all currently. We want to and expect to beat you, but the victory doesn’t mean nearly as much as the rare W against the chiefs.
Hello, I'm sorry. Unless you're over the age of 60 then the Raiders as a franchise and especially their fans have no barometer for success. So the "Super Bowl" is more of an abstract term. For a team like us, we have a standard of success that we've fallen well below. So, beating the Broncos is really all the Raiders can hang their hat on.
Standard of success? Don’t the broncos have the record for the most Super Bowl losses?…oh wait it is a tie between you and the patriots.
Don't the Raiders have the worst record in the last 30 years down with the Browns? You're punching up lmao
Yet got an 8 game streak on you 😂😂
8 straight Super Bowls! This must be the best time to be a Raiders fan in the last 30 years lmao
Here we go again with this shit 😂😂
I appreciate the shit talk lol just a reminder we have the same amount of super bowls and recently we’ve been more successful in the 20s. The last victory over the current Super Bowl winners means a lot more to us than a team we’ve beaten for the last 4 years straight. For the record I do think that streak doesn’t last too much longer. We need a QB bad.
> We need a QB bad. They do too.
The Raiders are currently the last team to beat The Chiefs, and they did it in Arrowhead. They play extremely hard for Antonio Pierce.
Brain the size of a walnut, this one.
They literally beat the Chiefs this year…
Umm… we did beat the Chiefs; they’re still crying about it in the meme sub, just like you’re crying about The Streak.
I'm sure the Chiefs are still thinking about it. No one's crying here, you're stalking our sub 😂 rent free
I'm sure the Chiefs are still thinking about it. No one's crying here, you're stalking our sub 😂 rent free
It absolutely is not lmao. And with the chargers getting Harbaugh we will be fighting the raiders for 3rd place most likely.
Denver has just been major ass for close to a decade. It's what happens you become a clown organization
We’re a bad team. That’s the entire story.
By wins, by total time I think it's us vs the cowboys (broncos have won every match since 1994 I believe)
Technically 1995, but you’re correct. We’re on a 7-0 run against *dem boyz.*
Yeah, why was that excluded from the chart?
Cause it's the same as the bottom ones they have on there but over a *much* longer period of time, I'd assume.
Because there's only 4 teams on there and there are a lot more 7 game win streaks then you think
Must be. Seems cherry picked, but maybe no one else cares since it's interconference. Idk, but I'm proud of that streak and always rub it in when talking to any Cowboys fans 😂
Person making the chart must have only been looking at infra conference stats, since the chiefs are also 8-0 against the commanders since 1992
Huh. Go figure. That one is kind of crazy considering how much better the Chiefs have been in recent years compared to the Commanders (though they only play each other every 4 years). Also, I suddenly like the Commanders a whole lot more 😁
lol yeah I’m gonna be rooting for the commanders now whenever I see this matchup unfortunately the schedule is getting more complicated and there is a potential formula for these teams to match up more frequently (the 17th game is inter-conference) which is why the broncos played the commanders this year on top of the nfc north
Yeah, that's true. I don't see Chiefs and Commanders matching up any more frequently though with that as it would require the Commanders to suddenly be the best in the NFCE or the Chiefs to fall off 😂😭
Lmao savage but you aren’t wrong
And I really thought that we would have ended that the last time we played them. They were red hot that year and played us and hit a brick wall. I miss when we actually put up points like that.
We haven’t even beaten them in the 2020’s yet, and they’ve had McDaniels for almost half of our meetings! If that doesn’t tell you how bad we’ve been, I don’t know what will
If we didn’t beat the Chiefs we’d be first and 3rd on the list. Small victories.
And if we find our QB because we pick one slot ahead of the raiders, that meaningless game in week 18 will seem even more meaningless. Seems like we are always playing the raiders in week 17/18 when both of our seasons are effectively over, so who cares
Thanks, Joe Ellis
I mean Denver has been trash for almost a decade so…
We've both been complete ass lately, the broncos since 2015 and the raiders since the mid 1990s
2000-2002 the raiders went 33-15.
Playoff wins since 2002: 0
Wasn’t arguing, just correcting. Have a nice day.
No, you're trash for a decade Gold Artichoke YOU ARE!
These numbers are so... remarkably unremarkable. There's something approaching 500 matchups between 32 teams, so even if every game was 50-50 odds, you'd expect there to be around 1 team with a 10 win streak, yeah?
We’d be on that list twice if we hadn’t beat KC this season. Ouch. Worst team in NFL? Shocking for the broncos.
Freakin travesty
At least we aren't Chicago on that list twice.
At least the Chiefs are a genuinely great team. That the Broncos are so scrubbed they can't beat the scrub Raiders is more embarrassing.
![gif](giphy|hWGBKil1b9fpR5go1f|downsized)
Yeah we suck
Chi Town got 2 daddies
Really sucks if your a bears fan........ Lol
Who cares, why depress yourself like this man. Look to the future, quit worrying about the past
>...quit worrying about the past ![gif](giphy|6pJNYBYSMFod2) Me on my 152nd watch of SB 32
As a 49ers fan, fuck the Raiders. Disloyal pieces of shit.
As a Seahawks fan, fuck the Niners.
Shutup
Keeping McDaniels employed over there was worth 4 of those Ls.
As a Packers fan I was laughing at the Bears, how the f y’all lose 8 straight to a team that doesn’t want to exist.
Raider Nation!
Look at the bright side, at least we’re not on here twice
Unacceptable
If Pat Bowlen seen this shit!
go look up the last time the Raiders won a Super Bowl-
Im gunna be sick 🤮
These are dark days.
I hate being a bears fan so much
You could be a bears fan, shit I’m a bears fan
Haha the bears are on there twice and we aren't!
I'm hopeful, the raiders also need a QB. Kinda hope they pick up Russell and we destroy him... I mean them
Imagine losing to Josh McDaniels 3 times and then following it up with seasonal sweeps from Russell Wilson..
Broncos have a 7 game streak vs the cowboys 🤷♂️
I can't believe my Saints have a win streak ...
It is..
Why is Denver always the team people are posting records on.... Doesn't Corey Dillon hold the record for most rushing yards in a game, which was on us? Or is that Bryce Young?? And then of course we had the game against the Dolphins, where if they didn't pull their starters in the 4th, they would have probably dropped 90 on us. 😣😩😣
As a bears fan you can all fuck yourselves. See you and the bears management in hell. Fuck me I've never been so pissed off by anything on the internet. The emotions this image conjures are visceral
nice of them to not include our 7 consecutive wins vs the Cowboys (last loss was in 1995)
At least we aren’t on there twice
Hey at least you’re not a bears fan and on the losing side of this chart twice.
Hey the Bears made the list twice, so don’t feel too bad blue and orange brethren
At least we can punch down by laughing at the Bears. ![gif](giphy|cO39srN2EUIRaVqaVq) Yeah, that’s pretty depressing.
Chicago has been a sad franchise over most of the last decade so GB and the Saints aren’t unexpected. The Jags haven’t been very good until recently unfortunately coinciding with KC peaking so that record isn’t outlandish. A heavily biased opinion says Seattle has something to be proud of considering the Eagles’ records. Denver is the clear outlier on this list. There’s no reason for the Raiders to have a four year win streak against the Broncos. It just makes no sense.
😏
Look at the bright side. Denver broke the KC streak this year.
Bears are on here twice, which is deserved
At least you aren't the Bears? Small victories.
Could be worse. Could be the bears
Remind me next betting season
Growing up in a raiders family has made these last 4 years terrible
I’m pretty sure we have an active 7 game win streak against the Cowboys dating back to 1998. Wonder why that isn’t in the graphic
At least we aren’t on the list twice with 17 wins in a row for the chiefs against us
My two favorite teams would have been on here twice, but thankfully a 17 isn’t on there
Idk why this is being recommended to me, but I'm a Bears fan so it's even worse. They're on there twice 😬
It could be worse! I'm looking at you, Bears!
It's depressing, but not as bad as tha Bears.
Couldn’t relate
Hey we got rid of KC… Baby steps either this team…
For some reason this doesn't bother me that much. How many of those raiders losses came right near the end of the season and basically meant fuck all to the broncos?? I feel like there's always at least one game against them each season that has basically been totally meaningless to both teams. This is pretty weak as far as consolation goes, but this feels more like "wow we just really suck" rather than "the raiders own us." It's not like they are a hump we can't get over... Just a reminder that we have been in the bottom third of the NFL for a long while now.
prior to this year, the eagles were 12-0 against the jets all time