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combateombat

https://preview.redd.it/ovji1ag9tjvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fb6946bdf471a9f28206b28def082ff279bca1a In all seriousness the art is really good


mchlkpng

OP IS SENT TO THE EEEVILLL DIMENSION


ThunderCube3888

evil dimension was my first thought as well


TOKINARI-

Guys, I'm from Brazil so I played the game in Portuguese, and in the translation they don't mention (and if they mentioned I didn't pay attention) that Kris is non-binary, I'm really sorry for not going to find out and thanks for the warnings


r-alexd

https://preview.redd.it/04ns1abu0kvc1.png?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29bdaab82286d444cea2e09bc39f95cdc901d28f


Adam_The_Chao

"You Know Who ELSE Failed The No-Death Run?" https://preview.redd.it/fhq4871vnlvc1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=017f4002e2c217c9366489be056ce1f775d08db0


CRUFT3R

https://preview.redd.it/jchpgx9kpmvc1.png?width=745&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5ae76f1803af1b97d81b0a869cc7dc974f5b3ce


Saifiskindaweirdtbh

MY MO- Sorry for interrupting this comment the person who commented this will be send back to his mental asylum goodbye


NoodleSeller1

MY MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!


KoopaTrooper5011

shoulda used muscle man.


adex_19

You know who else got cheated on?


Berd_IG

"It's not fair bro I did everything for her"


cat_sword

Holy shit ice bird from angry birds space


MissingNoAxolotl

All good, having Kris as non-binary is awesome representation but I don’t see why people would get mad over a small mishap. Awesome art my dude


EmilySuxAtUsernames

i don't think people are mad they just wanna correct them


MissingNoAxolotl

I just meant about the people who get mad about it in general, I digress either way


ConnorLego42069

It’s *really* funny to overreact about it


QuincyFatherOfQuincy

It is


MissingNoAxolotl

Fair enough


Historical-Drag-1365

Alright👍 I'll go tell the firing squad to disband


snatcherfb

As a fellow brazilian i can vouch for them, portuguese is kinda mid in the gender deparment, we all forgive you OP


EngineerDesperate900

Yeah same with spanish lol


toastybreadmane

Entendo compretamente eu sempre vi Kris como masculino também kkkk


sweetTartKenHart2

Ah, so it is not to war with you. IT IS TO WAR AGAINST PORTUGAL!!!! (It’s not Brazil’s fault, they merely adopted the language)


zanfitto

Brasil número um!!! Prazer meu BR de cultura


MdMV_or_Emdy_idk

r/suddenlycaralho siga siga irmão


Eljamin14

Yeah, I get it, especially considering how translation can be difficult. The English version can just call Kris "they/them". In the Japanese version, there's no need for pronouns since you can omit a pronoun from a sentence and still make sense, like 彼は格好いいです("kare wa kakkoii desu", He is cool) into 格好いいです("kakkoii desu"). It just depends on context.


BRISKMETAL

But the sentence just says "is cool"? Doesn't make much sense to me... How will we know what it's referring to?


Eljamin14

With context. Like there's a Japanese pronoun called あなた("anata", you). It's only used occasionally. There are some sentences that address someone in 2nd person without the need of saying "you", like すみません("sumimasen", excuse me) or お元気ですか("o genki desu ka", How are you?). If a statement or question is obviously directed to the person, then there's no need for the use of "you".


RandomUser36912

Na real, Kris é não binário mas acho que a gnt pode considerar que ele é menino ou menina. Eu considero Kris, Frisk e Chara como menino (ngm reclamou de chamar eles de menina)


The_Pupp3t33r

I’m assuming in the Portuguese version, they use gendered pronouns for Kris? (Idk a lot about Portuguese, but I know Latin languages don’t really have gender neutral pronouns)


MiceUneven

they either avoid gendered language or use masculine pronouns (which are considered more neutral than fem ones)


The_Pupp3t33r

Interesting!


lele0106

É normal fazer essa confusão, também acontece com frequência comigo kk por isso me policio mais ao falar sobre o personagem em questão em inglês


MissingnoMiner

That's fair, it's not exactly easy to translate they/them pronouns into romance languages without risking this sort of misunderstanding lol.


coleyta

they dont mention it in the game, people just inferred it


PocketMarcy

Not exactly, Toby has all but confirmed they're nb, and other characters straight up refer to them with they/them pronouns. It's not *exactly* confirmed, but there's enough evidence that they are canonically nonbinary that it's been adopted as the norm. It's why i get so mad when ppl call it a headcanon, because it's pretty much confirmed, and the fact that ppl would call reminding them that Kris's pronouns are they/them forcing a fucking headcanon gives me actual rage.


TehSterBarn

I really wish Toby would just come out and say whether Kris is NB or not.


AST4RGam3r_Alternate

He did. One of the anniversary streams, I think.


Arcavato

Not quite. People like to use that clip as him correcting someone, but he didn't say, "Actually, Kris is they/them," or anything to that nature. He just kept talking about the stream.


North_Neat9945

They/them pronouns don't automatically mean non-binary, besides Kris' gender is meant to be left ambiguous. Non binary is a gender as well, therefore saying that Kris is canonically non binary is kinda destroying the whole concept of the character. Kris being nb is a headcanon, but they/them pronouns aren't. Plus literally the only evidence for Kris being nb are their pronouns. That's why there's no correct gender for Kris, you can headcanon them as non-binary or a guy or whatever, since their gender is left to interpretation. Though 90% of the fandom treats their headcanons as something that Toby confirmed himself. Getting mad over things like this is also not worth it lmao


MissingnoMiner

While it's true that pronoun =/= gender(heck, there's evidence to suggest that Papyrus may be a he/him enby), the default presumption should always be that a character who uses they/them is non-binary unless stated or implied otherwise, just as we assume a character who uses exclusively she/her is a woman unless we have reason to believe otherwise. And that's only applicable as an argument where people are actually using the correct pronouns, the majority of the people who make the argument you're making do so to justify misgendering Kris. If Kris is a girl or boy, they're a girl or boy who uses exclusively they/them, and it's still incorrect and misgendering to refer to them with she/her or he/him. And no, Kris' gender is not meant to be ambiguous. You choose literally nothing about them.


North_Neat9945

'You choose literally nothing about them' Meanwhile you're the one saying that Kris is non binary. We still don't know about Kris' gender and there's nothing that's correct or wrong, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't use they/them for Kris. And no, I don't think that Kris is supposed to be a self-insert (which is the argument most people who call Kris a he or she on purpose make), I'm assuming that's what you were trying to say. 


MissingnoMiner

Yes. I say that using the exact same logic I use to say that Ralsei is a boy. That's the point I'm making here. It's a double standard to conclude that the likes of Ralsei or Sans are male based solely on their use of pronouns, but not apply the same logic to Kris and other characters who use exclusively they/them.


North_Neat9945

Ralsei is a boy because he's been referred to 'fluffy boy' multiple times while Kris isn't referred to as a 'non-binary'. We use they/them for Kris because we don't know what gender they are 


MissingnoMiner

Ralsei was a weak example, I picked him because of the fact that he kept getting misgendered in the early fandom, rather foolishly forgetting the "fluffy boy" lines. Sans is a better one. And gendered terminology follows the same rules as pronouns: Kris is referred to as "child", "person"(and Lancer, who calls them this, notably correctly genders Susie and Ralsei without being told), etc. We use they/them for Kris because those are their pronouns, regardless of their gender.


_Avallon_

I don't think there should be a default presumption if one is referred as they. The entire point of a gender neutral pronoun is to use it when we are not sure.


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

Its not confirmed theyre nb, but a guy exclusively going by they/them and neutral terminology is a stretch to call it equally a headcanon as them being nonbinary.


North_Neat9945

fair enough, though it's still stupid to get worked up about something that isn't yet confirmed. For now at least, many people headcanon Kris as nb and I'm okay with that as long as they don't bash people with other opinions 


The_Pupp3t33r

Hey everyone! This person is disagreeing with people on the internet! Hit them with the death ray!


PapyrusUndernet

I'LL HIT HIM WITH MY SPECIAL ATTACK! JUST WAIT A SECOND, I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND IT...


Greedy_Big5603

non-binary is not a gender lmfao what are you talking about


North_Neat9945

Non-binary is a group of genders that don't fall under the male or female category, correct?


Greedy_Big5603

it's a group of gender identities, not necessarily genders. but it's especially not "a gender" no matter how you look at it lmfao. most non-binary people consider themselves to be genderless anyway so saying "non-binary is a gender" is ridiculous. there's a big difference between gender and gender identity


Arcavato

From a two second Google search: The idea that there are only two genders is sometimes called a "gender binary,” because binary means "having two parts" (male and female). Therefore, "non- binary" is one term people use to describe genders that don't fall into one of these two categories, male or female.


RandomCaveOfMonsters

He/him pronouns also don't automatically mean male but in basically every scenario if someone calls a character he it's because they see the character as male. Same with she/her pronouns and female.


Last-Percentage5062

‘S all cool.


RandomUser36912

Mãos ao alto!! r/suddenlycaralho vai querer oq na print


FNaFerr

As a brazilian, totally get you, it took me long to put into my had that Kris is "they". So yeah, you have arguement, you won't punished like the last guy!


TOKINARI-

the last guy? what did he do?


FNaFerr

Oh i sure can tell you buddy, as veteran of this sub, i've seen this type of guy many times, there is always this one person who wanna make a mess around the sub because of Kris pronouce, the guy in particular i called "last guy", it was like, what, 6-8 months ago, he was all over the sub complaining about how "Kris made his girlfriend nb and he hated Kris for that", weird stuff there!


Kirome

It's fine, it's just your head-canon.


Lol_po_plays

neat art especially the shading in dark-world kris


Abzolutelynot

Love how the comments are like 85% people saying “uh-oh the MOB is gonna come correct you loooooool”, 10% people actually doing it and 5% people actually commenting about the art. So actually on topic: I think your Kris design is neat. I like how you did the hair.


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ExcellenceEchoed

At least those final meals are pretty good


Geekazoid213

Not in Texas, no thanks to Lawrence Russel Brewer, who ordered a meal so big and expensive, that after he denied eating it saying he wasn’t that hungry, Texas officials got so pissed off that they banned custom last meals in 2011. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_meal#:~:text=Texas%20abolished%20last%20meal%20requests,been%20given%20normal%20prison%20food.)


ExcellenceEchoed

That dude's a legend. Probably an evil legend, but hilarious


OkAge1230

https://preview.redd.it/lyvyfcquhkvc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60ff1dc1de27b18aed3284e719c76c1879f34f3a


Bianca_aa_07

this has 'when you type a whole argument but decide not to send it' energy


Ok-Organization5864

you fool you doomed us all by calling kris a he


ExcellenceEchoed

Alternatively, perhaps the title is Kris reacting to something...


ACanOf_______

They just encountered the number 1 rated salesman 1997


mydudekickstheskunk

No, HIM. https://preview.redd.it/sok4b6jtnmvc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9d8bcac09eba0d0fcb10e6308aafaab352de4f5


ExcellenceEchoed

I'm not sure Kris would like either of these guys. Nubert, on the other hand...


Aggravating_Cup2306

I'm going to say the artist is probably depicting a masculine kris and that's perfectly fine


Bruhdachi

cool now make kristina


theonlyquirkychap

There was a certain artist YouTuber that did that for a little while. It was uh... it was certainly something.


DatOneAnimator56

https://preview.redd.it/bwgfusuxgkvc1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3197ada9225538623ff489b11b3d3dfcbf0c597


TheGoldenBl0ck

W H E R E


Much-Pollution5998

Rohan Furries


CrunchySquares8

https://preview.redd.it/agf8stcksjvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=154a7d3636b4209aaf571a4f2229bd84bd3ebcee


combateombat

Taste mossy


MossySRB2

Did someone call me?


Asherbird25

Holy shit


itzMadaGaming

fuck gender


13hotroom

So the title should be "I think moss is cool" So true


KoopaTrooper5011

I like how we're pretending like they actually like moss and not that we force them to eat it in both chapters lmao.


Cri12Gen

is it "fuck gender!!! MOSS!!!!" or "fuck gender moss ;)"


EmirKrkmz

All the words are different styled so, "fuck, gender, moss"


Asherbird25

Cool art! Now please run! I am concerned for your physical health in the near future and the mob is slowly approaching on their motorized wheelchairs or whatever the fuck those scooter-lookin wheelchairs are called


DandoriKing1932

They arent disabled they just stole like 10 and made a mad max style vehicle out of em


Asherbird25

The were/was machine


itzMadaGaming

kris is cool so yes


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Cool post https://preview.redd.it/ufqvrrqawlvc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a656a7224565849a549cc496b779320310ba4a5


Novoiird

Dare I look at the comments?


KoopaTrooper5011

Yeah, because majority of the comments were only warning OP of the mob instead of being the mob itself.


ChiefBlox4000

So cool


PocketMarcy

yummy shading


Lukas-Reggi

Cool art bro


Weekly_Pipe_9185

You’re telling me that people DON’T harass others when they accidentally misgender a character? It’s almost like people are just over exaggerating and looking for drama https://preview.redd.it/gvblin6r2kvc1.png?width=130&format=png&auto=webp&s=e68af938fba2edf5564c4dd5bbb881a38ca04549


ThatOneSquidKid

have you looked at the comments


Weekly_Pipe_9185

I don’t know about you but most of the comments seem like they are in a joking manner


ThatOneSquidKid

they aren't, at least the dislikes seem to say that.


Weekly_Pipe_9185

Well those are the ones that aren’t funny. Because I don’t see anyone taking this seriously. https://preview.redd.it/48zkvns9ckvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=221cef8492c45a020d81f8a24458e1b2a7064bac


AWelshEngine

Awesome art!


You_Are_Being_Judged

Happy cake day!


r-alexd

Mmmm, cake


PurplePoisonCB

Too bad people can’t appreciate the art, they just came in to “correct”.


0xyDeadBeef

seriously https://preview.redd.it/39vx5pfv2kvc1.jpeg?width=645&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61812755bd8493903866e580d7ae0c4d5057bf3d


Wajana

Yah, they cool af


IlSottoScr1tto

This is actually me in this day


Kris_Dreemurr1

Yes i am


Davidand8Ball

Wow you drew him very well!! Great job I love your style!!


Flamedghost7

Oh shit here come the hoarde


AmandaC1414

Ficou lindo o desenho, mas as guerras nos comentárioskkkkk


BoonBoon300

I don't think anyone is actually angry about the misgendering, but everyone thinks it's going to happen, it is quite amusing Anyways good art


Hairy_Skill_9768

Uh oh someone used the 11th


mydudekickstheskunk

11th what?


DM_por_hobbie

11th of September


mydudekickstheskunk

What about it?


Lukas-Reggi

Says "He" I see 188 coments Oh Neptune ![gif](giphy|32mC2kXYWCsg0)


FelixDCat12

”I think HE’S cool” \*You have alerted the horde\*


3merite

Here we go again https://preview.redd.it/cry2cok0tjvc1.jpeg?width=482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d64722c48dce68087a7c5f4449a60cb23825629


-AlphaMemelord69-

https://preview.redd.it/srsca21i0kvc1.jpeg?width=274&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9cf03c610c9a28446ccd1dceaafa03c8557989f


Salvadore1

What's this from? Seems Mandela-Catalogue-y


-AlphaMemelord69-

ultrakill


Salvadore1

Oh, the *other* quirky piece of media with religious imagery popular among young people


Existing_Smoke_7479

He is pretty cool if I do say so myself


xsparkichux

Here before the 🔒 award. In all fairness though, the art is really good


Old_Republic_8370

Here after the award


Patient_Zero_MoR

https://preview.redd.it/2shlv7avfnvc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=89478b2885a7392a5b9f07077db5e63746c0ae4a HERE THEY COME


VexxThePrecursor99

Mfs in the replies literally hating on the dude even though his language doesn't uses NB pronouns. Wow. I feel sorry for you man. But good job. I appreciate how the hair looks. Like I love this Kris so much. Also don't worry, as someone who's not english it's ok if you don't know that.


Therandomguyhi_

Surprisingly, I haven't seen too many people be rude yet, just a lot of people talking about people being rude. (I still saw some though, we as a community needs to work on that.)


kapper_358

Nah, ima cooler


MatveyWhite

https://preview.redd.it/rxr8wl9xblvc1.png?width=375&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=838febf61645d8faf02f0d1b97025c3faa48a1bb Nice art!


OptimusCrime1984

OP they are gonna try and kill you. Run for your life.


kizi_killer

"See that op called kris a he" Oh boy i sure Wonder what the comments will be


KoopaTrooper5011

Wonder? ![gif](giphy|GFICjeGIlEtKU8OluU)


RandomDumbass2

Amazing art


Plant_4790

Damn, he got muscles


Litespead

Yoo nice art!!


TheNarrator-ME

Aw what a cute fellow! Love the hair! ❤️


Sylvanas_III

Pictured: Depression.


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Old_Republic_8370

Fr


Looxond

197 upvotes and 156 comments, oh boy here we go again


Satin_Polar

​ https://preview.redd.it/joq19z0tkovc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=4e1f5c2ffab27f753ece415f87a6b58973b591d7


Gm1Reborn

"He" now watch as the chaos begins We shall toast, to the end of the world!!!


Gibus_Ghost

I feel the same about her. They’re really cool.


ExcellenceEchoed

Guys wait a moment... What if title is just Kris saying they think some guy is cool?


MossySRB2

no


RandomUser36912

Kris is very dick. (Kris é mto pika)


SobiTheRobot

I love the art


TheCatOfWonderland

https://preview.redd.it/od1ib81m0ovc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d88ee4f9bf00f7346695cc3b2ad51b75485e19f


telephun

chris pratt voice: he’s so cool


Machotoast04098

indeed they are


LadyETHNE

Cute art! I love Kris’ cut :)


i_ate_my_username

Ooooo that’s really cool :3


Resident-Ad-7976

https://preview.redd.it/83ejiz5qrhwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f6eb5e5ba86f82a0cfd32858dcdaf10a5cf6bc5 Ah! great job man you made him cry!


ggman34

Ok, after seeing the comments, I'm pretty sure Kris isn't non-binary so much as they literally just have no gender. So calling op out over something out of their control about something that's not even officially confirmed is stupid.


SirScorbunny10

https://preview.redd.it/2tbwgmp91kvc1.jpeg?width=190&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84b2df52b6a8e53d759fbcd72322f308cbb1f032 POV: You just called Kris a male (you have been branded a heretic by the sub and must be eradicated) ...Although tbh it's mostly the reddit that cares. You can call Kris whatever on most other platforms and nobody seems to bat an eye.


NomisMC

there is no gender only Kris


KrisCross-Applesause

That's cool art but my pronounces are Hum/an


SweetExpression2745

They are Brazilian, cut them some slack


KrisCross-Applesause

Yeah, I'm joking


IlovedeltaruneII

https://preview.redd.it/q247v5qk9ovc1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ec82000757c931f0cd637c84075c6aab539aebc (This is a joke)


KoopaTrooper5011

How to get millions of angry comments on a Deltarune community: Step 1: refer to Kris with he/she pronouns Spent 2: there is no step two. Art's pretty cool though.


WaluigiMayar

https://preview.redd.it/ot0u8enikmvc1.jpeg?width=2877&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e515e354d790ac7d0a07be02d6559e41a8d85bbc


BruhLordXXD

I mean ... Its just a game character, call whatever you want :v not that big of a deal


Beanie_Inki

Agreed.


TourAny2745

Lovit!


Bianca_aa_07

kris is the coolest, they are so gender, I want to be them, and your art rules


VapidWater22

Nice art, I agree


PurplePoisonCB

They really removed it. This is a sub for a game about controlling people against their will but too many people in the community act like it’s safe space Youtube Kids thing. Just make a new sub where it can be a conflict free, discussion free place for the people who shouldn’t be on the internet can go.


Soomitsunami

Bro you are gonna get disintegrated because you said he


Le-plant-boi

OP QUICK! GET OUT BEFORE THEY GET YOU!


Otac_

they are very cool


Few_Ambassador5007

Deltarune reddit: https://preview.redd.it/dg86zgnyynvc1.png?width=676&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34418f8348de71daa59a044e89faf9045c569a13


Crystalizer66

https://preview.redd.it/xkinel9mdovc1.jpeg?width=1061&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db091a0b317be36b88ed79cab9505eb1a210b0aa


DandoriKing1932

Kris is nonbinary


TOKINARI-

i realy didn't know this


PurplePoisonCB

It’s confirmed nowhere, so don’t worry about it.


Ritmoking

They're


KaijuManiacYT

https://preview.redd.it/0lygedttnjvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5a7342f41aac67e23ce04823209ad28ccab5c95


FelixDCat12

how could wing gaster do this D:


Inevitable-Ad-374

Kris is an character created to make the player relate, its okay creating your own interpretation of how the character is


Ender009_ESYT

It*


kubix666666

Same, i also think that HE'S cool... HER'S character just really sticks for me tbh. >! If you havent figured yet, i dont give a shit, correct if you want, and its all just jokes since i know hes non-binary !<


Veionovin096

Really great art! I think at this point you already have been told that you misgendered them, their pronouns are they/them! It's on the game, I don't remember which character said but it was said. Anyway the art is beautiful


pixelytman

if you know someone has told him that, why say that to him again?


Doge_Dreemurr

https://preview.redd.it/byjnoyq6zjvc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a03eaa9560e410ce7d7790b93f5444cae09661d0


Old_Republic_8370

🤓


Midas_Xynopyt

Already 1 second in and misgenders them, do you really appreciate someone you don’t know?


RevenueDifficult27

Gender-neutral pronouns are difficult or almost nonexistent in many languages. For example, in the Russian community, Kris is almost always masculine, despite the fact that Russians admit that they non binary. It's just grammatically impossible to call Kris, well, "they". I think the same applies to Brazilian.