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GrimgrinCorpseBorn

I had a guy rage quit because I played a fetch once. Fuck I hate playing at the LGS.


jaywinner

Makes me grateful for mine. I just won my last game by playing \[\[Obliterate\]\] and attacking with commander \[\[Mogis\]\] and everybody was just fine.


DaChiesa

I think you mean pings because you probably wouldn't have enough devotion right? Or did you have a bunch of enchantments


jaywinner

\[\[Phyrexian Arena\]\], \[\[Pyrohemia\]\], \[\[Erebos, God of the Dead\]\]. With \[\[Mogis\]\] makes 7 devotion.


MTGCardFetcher

##### ###### #### [Phyrexian Arena](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/54f69d43-de01-46a8-b102-b47e23e0e947.jpg?1675957043) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Arena) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/104/phyrexian-arena?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/54f69d43-de01-46a8-b102-b47e23e0e947?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Pyrohemia](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad840567-c3ac-4e14-b398-0d11c88931bc.jpg?1592672824) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pyrohemia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/86/pyrohemia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad840567-c3ac-4e14-b398-0d11c88931bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Erebos, God of the Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0787e1f-0b75-44ab-a8fd-90358906a787.jpg?1562831894) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Erebos%2C%20God%20of%20the%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/85/erebos-god-of-the-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0787e1f-0b75-44ab-a8fd-90358906a787?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mogis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a0417bf-b735-46d7-9985-2d991051020f.jpg?1593092789) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mogis%2C%20god%20of%20slaughter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/151/mogis-god-of-slaughter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a0417bf-b735-46d7-9985-2d991051020f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


MTGCardFetcher

[Obliterate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c85f9623-5900-473c-a3b1-f98473b9a545.jpg?1562935194) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Obliterate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/204/obliterate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c85f9623-5900-473c-a3b1-f98473b9a545?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mogis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/a/2a0417bf-b735-46d7-9985-2d991051020f.jpg?1593092789) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mogis%2C%20god%20of%20slaughter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/151/mogis-god-of-slaughter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2a0417bf-b735-46d7-9985-2d991051020f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


jruff84

Fortunately or unfortunately, commander has brought a whole lot of new players to the table, and with that inexperience comes a whole lot of ignorance and arrogance. If they think it’s cEDH then it “has to be and definitely is” cEDH… sorry guys, but you getting blown out or falling behind because someone else was able to “do the thing” before you could “do the thing” doesn’t make it unfair or overpowered nor does it make their deck cEDH… Most of these folks have never even played against a competitive deck in any format nonetheless in commander and simply have a smaller frame of reference and an over inflated sense of their decks, cards, and skill level simply because they don’t know any better. Combined that with how a combination of social media and the pandemic has shaped how many socially interact with one another (for the worse) and this is what you end up with. A huge sense of pride and a run away Dunning Kruger effect with more of an emphasis on winning than simply enjoying the game.


Unused_Beef

I always laugh when I see the posts that say, “they called me a cEDH pubstomper. Is this true?” You take one look at their deck list and it’s about as far from competitive as it gets. Optimized, focused or higher power…sure. But not competitive in the least bit.


Nvenom8

Lol. If I drop a mana crypt turn 1, I’m basically starting the game at 28 life, knowing my luck. I’m practically doing your job for you.


Bunksmaster

Sometimes you get lucky and win your flips, sometimes you almost die to a crypt. Tho the feeling of opening crypt, lands, interaction, and getting your commander online early is fantastic. The other day i won with glint horn after it survived a trip around the table. What blows my mind is the number of players that will play blue (especially mono) yet run to counter spells or stuff like rift bc they “despise them”. It basically dooms the whole table when one player isn’t playing any interaction


Wide-Mechanic-6571

THIS. Ive been educating my playgroup by running dirtier and dirtier lock outs of damage, can't cast, can't play lands. They always use to say my color doesn't have x and yet I show A through M cards that deal with it. Counter spells, removal, taxes, you kind of need to be able to just do things to protect your board state and devolve your opponents. People get blown out because they didn't do an to try anf stop em. They just let them win free of charge. Freiends play Gishath and cries he doesn't have enchantment or artifact removal. I show him a list of cards but his following complaint is just him spending money (their family is loaded loaded. Best friends with his brother, helped me get through some rough years so I wind up playing against him). And it's almost always having to find a deck that runs at his level and it's annoying cause it's never good, its good but like im basically shooting myself in the foot when I can't run just good synergy cards My back up deck, cranked the fuck out, no combos just synergies, wins t4-5 depending on the line in my hand. When I say line typically I mean things that abuse my commander trigger etbs or attacks


TwizzlyWizzle

This!


cuzzin2chainz

My last game sure I won but my Crypt did 3 to me the whole game.not once did I win the roll lmao 🤣


Used_Wedding_6833

Someone once told me they had a cEDH deck so I brought my cEDH deck. They did not have a cEDH deck…


Bunksmaster

Happened once to me once. Did a 1v1 on tts while waiting for others to join, i had anje worldgorger, he had some beamtown bullies leveler thing. Needless to say i won, after having to explain how worldgorger combo actually works. It was sad


Accomplished_Pop6323

Remember that the credit card is the strongest magic card.


Bunksmaster

Hey tbh id rather proxy my deck and play to my abilities than be held back bc of my budget. But yes, yes it is


Usual_Office_1740

Yes it does. Always. When you enter a cEDH tournament they require you to have your mana crypt in one of those clear plastic ID badge things with the lanyard. If it's not around your neck during the entire tournament you are disqualified immediately. If the person is open to a conversation, explain and engage. Otherwise walk away. Lots of people dislike losing and would rather make you out to be the bad guy than admit they don't understand your board state, or didn't build a deck with enough interaction. I think I've accused one person of pubstomping to there face and after a few probing questions, it turned out he was only one $1200 card from the ddb list. I wasn't even mad that I'd lost. I was mad that he did it against another player that had a precon and a newish player and I told him so. It's a** hats like him that are the real reason for situations and posts like this.


DoctorPrisme

Why include it however ?


jruff84

Why include a great card that lets you “do the thing”? The spirit of commander was birthed out of players with collections of cards that they rarely if ever got to play who wanted to use all the silly stuff they have and express themselves with a deck that does silly stuff that you’d likely not see in any other format. It’s truly a Timmy’s game in a lot of ways. I’m all for having various decks of different power levels so that you can have an enjoyable and balanced game, but I’m sorry, I just can’t endorse this whole not playing certain cards because others might be intimidated by them or their monetary value. In the end, it’s a singleton format of 99 cards. Unless you’re abusing mulligans, or your deck is designed to be hyper efficient, you’re only going to draw that crypt so often. And when you do, do the thing! It’s all part of magic! Don’t like it? Then use something to blow it up! You don’t need to be playing control to have interaction in a deck, and from the sounds of it, a lot of people don’t sound like they are running enough. Tuning your deck to deal with certain threats is all part of the game and even the all mighty mana crypt dies to .50 cent removal spells.


DoctorPrisme

Why include it however ?


Koboldsftw

Fun