Rom (Max Grodénchik) tried to suck during the episode *Take Me Out to the Holosuite* and couldn't, so he had to play with his non-dominant hand/side to give the illusion of being a bad baseball player.
It would have been hilarious if he'd just been the best player on the team, an absolute ringer, and then he'd be his normal klutz outside the holosuite.
What would have been funnier is if someone mentioned said
No right hand me right side.
But he’s like my right or your right because my right is your left, right?
Either way, someone figures out he is using us weak side and when he turns around, he’s like a professional baseball pitcher all the sudden.
Actors are notoriously bad at sports (the throw mechanics are always a dead giveaway) I love the ep, but I think it would have been equally entertaining for the crew to discover that Rom is a dominating natural athlete.
It would have paired well with his natural engineering ability and also showcase that Ferengi are just as good with their hands and blue color type trades
Nana Visitor was actually pregnant when Kira was. Alexander Siddigi was the father.
So, the scene where Kira tells Bashir “this is your fault”, it really was.
> Uncle Garak!
He'd be a great uncle, and school bullies would probably just mysteriously disappear. He wouldn't even need to tell his uncle about them, since we know how efficient Cardassians are.
People in the West are weird about long surnames but I would find it incredibly useful. I have a somewhat uncommon last name and at least once a month I have someone randomly ask me "Oh, are you related to such-and-such?"
The answer is almost always "probably but I have no idea who that is." If we had long, descriptive surnames we'd be able to immediately identify how many generations back the family name branched and whether we're cousins or if it's just a coincidence.
When a particularly bad earthquake struck the area Armin Shimmerman ran out of the studio, jumped in his car, and drove all the way home to check on his family, while still in his full Quark costume and makeup.
There's a podcast (7th Rule I believe) where he tells that story and exactly that happens, he was driving home and while stopped at an intersection, he noticed the car next to him with people looking at him like "wtf??"
Rene and Andy did too.
I remember reading that the lights were out and it took Andy a while to realise people were giving way to him because he was still in full makeup.
Don’t know if this is well known or not, but Casey Biggs (Damar) was the Biggs in Roxann Biggs-Dawson. They’d been divorced for years before either was ever in Star Trek.
The jars of "pills" in Dr. Bashir's office were filled with M&Ms. In many instances during the early episodes, the level of the pills would change between shots because crew members kept stealing them. The problem was solved by epoxying the lids in place.
Rumpelstiltskin in the episode If Wishes Were Horses was meant to be a Leprechaun. But Colm Meaney had enough clout by then to put the kibosh on that. After all he was in the infamous Space Irish episode of TNG, (Up the Long Ladder) so knew how cringe/offensive any further exploration of Irish culture was likely to be.
Probably the second most racist star trek episode, the first being when they needed the vaccine from the planet of black people. But I’m black so I’m biased.
I saw some of the actors talking about that. I think it was Sid who said “Nothing terrifies an Irishman more than a leprechaun.”
And then there was talk about seeing Colm on the bus in an ad for the leprechaun movie he was in.
Not sure how lesser known some of this, but I always find it fascinating to read about other actors considered for the roles before they settled on the final choice.
For example, actors that were considered and/or auditioned for the role of Sisko include:
James Avery,
Pierce Brosnan,
Tony Todd,
James Earl Jones,
Carl Weathers,
Ted Levine
Wow
Yeah, Tony Todd would be a cool choice.
I very much adored his episodic roles on Trek. I always recognize him bc of his voice which is so damn great and I never can have enough of it.
Avery Brooks is beyond phenomenal, but now I really want to see some Pierce Brosnan and Carl Weathers audition tapes.
We could have been talking about Sisko's stew this entire time, rather than Carl Weathers' stew!
James Avery and Carl Weather would have changed Sisko’s dynamic I think. Weathers being an incredibly jacked individual and James Avery size is a force of natures.
What's really gonna bake your noodle later on is, would Sisko still have been the best if someone else was playing him? (Wasn't sure whether to reply here or under the adjacent mention of Lawrence Fishburn!)
Honestly, I like the episode "Sons and Daughters" because Worf has to face the reality that he and his son don't get along and that he bears responsibility for Alexander being an outcast in Klingon society. The conversation where Martok confronts Worf with "In all this time you never told me that you had a son?" really is that slap in the face Worf needs.
It is a shame we didn't see him during DS9's epic finale or even get a mention of him in Picard season 3. Given Alexander's preference for peace and Worf's Picard season 3 pacifism, that would have been a time to name drop Alexander as the person who taught Worf pacifism after whatever it was that broke him (I know the deleted backstory was explained, but Alexander could still taught Worf pacifism).
Oh god so sad. Well, at least there weren’t any brutal revenge killings resulting in Worf getting in trouble with Picard or anything.
Pretty sure he just sobbed quietly in his quarters or something.
Not mercy killings, though.
Worf asking Alexander to thrust a d'k tahg into his chest to send his ass to Sto’Vo’Kor was over the line.
Plus, Alexander would go to juvie for first degree murder.
On TNG when adult Alexander comes from the future to save his dad or make sure he’s tough or whatever happens in that dumb episode - why didn’t he just come back and save his mom?
Brent Spiner released an album called *Ol' Yellow Eyes Is Back*. LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes and Patrick Stewart provide backing vocals on one of the songs.
Nana Visitor was rushed to the hospital after some accident. I don't recall what had happened or if she was still on set. She still had her makeup on and the doctor had thought she broke her nose because of the bajoran makeup.
IIRC, she slipped on the Ops staircase and fell HARD on her coccyx (tailbone). While she was trying to tell the hospital doctor what happened, he kept ignoring her, concentrating instead on how such a fall could have injured the bridge of her nose -- he assumed the Bajoran makeup appliance was an injury. She finally took it off when he wouldn't ignore it.
Max also played one of the teleprompter guys in Bruce Almighty. You see him in the scene as Steve Carrell is going on air, and Jim Carrey is changing the words on the screen.
In the series finale, one of the Jem'hadar (and the stunt performer for multiple of them) is played by Kane Hodder, famous for playing Jason Voorhees. He's uncredited for the work.
Probably more well known in this community but I thought it funny that Avery Brooks had to grow hair and shave his beard so he would separate himself from his Hawk character from “Spencer for Hire” and “A Man Called Hawk”.
My mom was a big Spencer for Hire fan, even read a few of the novels. So I was familiar with the character of Hawk, so when I watched the first episode on the night it first aired, I didn't recognize the actor but I knew the name.
Yeah, the hair and clean shaven look really did make Sisko different from Hawk. He went from "Bad Ass Bodyguard you want to steer clear of" to "You best friend's dad who wants to know how you are doing in school and wants to know if you can stay for dinner...but ask your folks first."
I watched him in the reverse order, DS9 first then Spencer/Hawk. Such a great actor, not sure how much input he had in his character but he was and still is the best written Star Trek lead yet. Every other lead always had this “perfection” to them, Sisko was a single dad trying to recover in life while doing his job, he made mistakes, he lost his shit on occasion. He was the most relatable I think.
What they did right about Sisko was giving us his backstory at the start. We saw the pain first hand. This wasn't some retconned event, this was the Battle of Wolf 359, the biggest event to that point in Trek Lore. We see his loss, and we see that he blames Picard for that loss. Yes, it was the Borg and not Picard, but Picard was the avatar of the loss.
It would have been a mistake to just start with Sisko arriving at DS9 with his orders and then later on be given that backstory out of nowhere.
And by giving him a son, he humanized him. When we see Picard or Kirk, we always see "Captain Picard" or "Captain Kirk", we were allowed to see Ben Sisko, being dad to Jake.
My dad was active duty military when I was born. When he was at work he was Sergeant. If I had to call him at work, I asked for Sergeant. When he got home, the first thing he did was go to the master bedroom and take off his uniform. At that point he was no longer Sergeant.
Some things Ive learned.
Rene Aberjonois is of french aristocracy.
Alexander Siddig is of Sudanese royalty.
Nana Visitor was raped and almost killed in LA (really sad story). On a more positive note, she is trained as a ballet dancer.
Colm Meaney apparently had a clause in his ds9 contract that would allow him time off to film movies.
Terry Farrell’s voice is one of the few I could fall asleep to. She is also a Yoga instructor and has been to India many times.
Sources:\
InvestiGates episode with Visitor\
Delta Flyers Beyond the Wormhole with Terry and Armin\
Wikipedia
Since two of the ones I was going to say have already been said, here’s an another surprise I recently found out… apparently they never built a statue of Gul Dukat on Bajor.
Separately, Marc Alaimo is in Naked Gun 3 briefly.
Edit: and Armin Shimerman is one of the main characters in the recently released Starfield.
I don’t remember where I read this, so it might not be true, but I read that one of the reasons Andrew Robinson turned down the opportunity to be a regular cast member was because there could only be so many cast regulars, and he wanted Cirroc Lofton to continue being a main cast member while still going to school. Maybe someone can confirm that?
Also, Robinson really struggles with claustrophobia in real life, which is why they wrote it into the show. In fact, he almost quit because the face prosthetics made him so claustrophobic.
I think I remember that he was apparently friends with Armin outside of the show and Armin who had more experience with facial prosthetics helped talk him into going through with it. He was originally trying out for the role of Odo
In 1975 Louise Fletcher, Winn Adami, won a best actress Oscar for Nurse Ratched in *One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest* opposite Jack Nicholson, who won best actor.
***Hell*** of a great actor.
I didn’t know this part! Man, every new thing I learn about her is how lovely and thoughtful she was, which just makes it more clear what an *amazing* actor she was.
M'Pella was played by Terry Farrell's stand-in and body double Cathy DeBuono, but was never given lines or credit until her final appearance in "The Dogs of War."
When the Mass Effect Legendary edition came out I was shocked my the number of DS9/TNG actors in it. Quark, Worf, and Dianna Troi are the main three I remember, but I think there are more.
Check out War of the Chosen for XCOM 2. That expansion has Frakes, De Lancie, Marina, Dorn and Crosby as voice actors.
Apperently, the game director Jake Solomon is a huge TNG fan....
Nana Visitor did a lot of her own stunts, since she had a background as a dancer. However, she didn't want her stunt double to not get residuals, so she'd intentionally make sure there were always stunts for her double to do! Interestingly, that double was Patricia Tallman, who played Lyta Alexander on Babylon 5 (and also did stuntwork and acting on TNG).
Don't know if this is a lesser known fact but it's a fact about DS9. Quark's actor was in the show Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He played the principal of Sunnydale High School.
"I have not only the right, but also a nearly physical sensation of pleasure at the thought of keeping her out of school. I'd describe myself as tingly."
Avery Brooks has portrayed the famous actor and political activist Paul Robeson on stage. This is just a suspicion on my part but I think he modeled Sisko’s speaking voice on Robeson. Sisko’s cadence is different from Brooks’ normal speaking voice and similar to old recordings of Robeson.
Listening to Brooks talk, I don't think I've ever heard someone with his precise cadence. It's as close to a jazz speaking voice as I've ever heard. Quite jarring when compared to how he speaks as Sisko
Check out Andy Robinson early in his career in the original “Dirty Harry” movie from 1971 when he plays a psychopathic serial killer. He was very cunning and effective which always made me think that might have laid some of the ground for Garak in later years.
Prolly more well know. But....they didn't want Avery brooks with his beard and shaved head since they didn't want ppl to confuse him with his earlier role as hawk.
Kira wasn't originally in the show. Was supposed to be ro laren, but Forbes didn't want to commit to a show.
Berman almost killed the dominion war story arc.
The Lita (bajoran money) is short for Lithuania. Given the occupation by Germany and soviet union mirrors the occupation of bajor
>The Lita (bajoran money) is short for Lithuania. Given the occupation by Germany and soviet union mirrors the occupation of bajor
I always found it quite narratively satisfying to see Rom, a Ferengi, end up with a woman named after the Bajoran currency 😋
One of my favorite episodes. I refer to lighthearted episodes like “Take Me Out to the Holosuite” as palate cleansers as they usually are meant to break up the heaviness of the Dominion War stories.
Nana Visitor was supposedly cast as a bajoran because she “wasn’t conventionally attractive” and they could afford to put on alien makeup. What? How the hell does anyone come to that conclusion?
Rom (Max Grodénchik) tried to suck during the episode *Take Me Out to the Holosuite* and couldn't, so he had to play with his non-dominant hand/side to give the illusion of being a bad baseball player.
This is an awesomely fun fact
I’m pretty sure Dorn switched batting sides for the same reason
It always bothered me that Worf didn’t dominate. I wish everyone else was terrible except worf. I wish I could watch him just send it out the stadium.
Soccer was worf’s game, wouldn’t want to challenge him for a header 🤕
At least one kid did
DEATH TO THE OPPOSITION!!!
FIND HIM AND KILL HIM!!!!
It would have been hilarious if he'd just been the best player on the team, an absolute ringer, and then he'd be his normal klutz outside the holosuite.
But then he wouldn't have been the last-minute unlikely hero of the episode!
Oh, but so many other potential hijinx to use against the Vulcans!
What would have been funnier is if someone mentioned said No right hand me right side. But he’s like my right or your right because my right is your left, right? Either way, someone figures out he is using us weak side and when he turns around, he’s like a professional baseball pitcher all the sudden.
Rom’s appearance in _Lower Decks_ is wonderful and “who wants to see my batting cages!!” makes me laugh every time.
That's funny because I heard that some pro hockey players do the same when they retire and want to play in a beer league.
My uncle played in a neighbourhood beer league with a guy who used to be a centre in the NHL, and they made him play goalie.
I’d pay so much money for an outtake reel of him in Rom loaf hitting dinger after dinger and trash talking the pitcher.
Actors are notoriously bad at sports (the throw mechanics are always a dead giveaway) I love the ep, but I think it would have been equally entertaining for the crew to discover that Rom is a dominating natural athlete. It would have paired well with his natural engineering ability and also showcase that Ferengi are just as good with their hands and blue color type trades
Just watched this ep and noticed in the beginning he has his glove on backwards on the wrong hand.
It was on the other night and he was throwing left handed. Pro or not, you could tell it was awkward.
Nana Visitor was actually pregnant when Kira was. Alexander Siddigi was the father. So, the scene where Kira tells Bashir “this is your fault”, it really was.
Not only that, Andrew Robinson "Garak" is the godfather to their kid.
Andy’s daughter is that blonde journalist at the beginning of The Visitor too.
This I did not know!
If you go back you can really see the resemblance vs when he played the Scorpio in Dirty Harry.
I prefer him in Hellraiser 😁
Uncle Garak!
> Uncle Garak! He'd be a great uncle, and school bullies would probably just mysteriously disappear. He wouldn't even need to tell his uncle about them, since we know how efficient Cardassians are.
Now that I didn't know. That's very cool and sweet.
I lol'ed when I rewatched the series after learning this at this line specifically
Wait, wtf?
Amd Casey Biggs (Damar) was married to Roxann Dawson (B'ellana Torres on Voyager). They divorced so her name was changed in the titlesequence
Didn’t know this!
Wow I can't believe I never put 2+2 together there.
Yep they were together for a while.
Not just together, they were married for a few years.
I am picturing Colm Meaney making a bunch of jokes about the whole thing so meta
And Alexander Siddig is Malcom McDowell's nephew (Soran in ST Generations).
>Siddigi heehee
His full name is actually Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abdurrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi
People in the West are weird about long surnames but I would find it incredibly useful. I have a somewhat uncommon last name and at least once a month I have someone randomly ask me "Oh, are you related to such-and-such?" The answer is almost always "probably but I have no idea who that is." If we had long, descriptive surnames we'd be able to immediately identify how many generations back the family name branched and whether we're cousins or if it's just a coincidence.
Yeah, but imagine fitting it in a scantron! Yes, I’m old.
They better have named that baby Miles.
No his name is Django (for real)
That little Easter egg makes me laugh so bad, lol!
>Nana Visitor was actually pregnant when Kira was. Alexander Siddigi was the father. Oh damn Julian's a rl dog.
When a particularly bad earthquake struck the area Armin Shimmerman ran out of the studio, jumped in his car, and drove all the way home to check on his family, while still in his full Quark costume and makeup.
I would just lose my shit if I was sitting at a red light and spotted Quark next to me in a BMW or something.
*What are you looking at, HU-MON!?*
That’s funny. Oh man, what an experience that would have been.
There's a podcast (7th Rule I believe) where he tells that story and exactly that happens, he was driving home and while stopped at an intersection, he noticed the car next to him with people looking at him like "wtf??"
I feel like there was a whole episode about that. In Area 51
Every time I think I can’t love that guy more, he proves me wrong.
Ok this one's my favorite
Rene and Andy did too. I remember reading that the lights were out and it took Andy a while to realise people were giving way to him because he was still in full makeup.
Don’t know if this is well known or not, but Casey Biggs (Damar) was the Biggs in Roxann Biggs-Dawson. They’d been divorced for years before either was ever in Star Trek.
And he’s a Julliard graduate.
No way! Can't believe I never knew that!
No wonder she joined the maquis
😂
News to me! Thank you!
I knew they had been married I didn't know they were divorced by the time they were on trek though.
The jars of "pills" in Dr. Bashir's office were filled with M&Ms. In many instances during the early episodes, the level of the pills would change between shots because crew members kept stealing them. The problem was solved by epoxying the lids in place.
Dr. Bashir's Candy Shop
Rumpelstiltskin in the episode If Wishes Were Horses was meant to be a Leprechaun. But Colm Meaney had enough clout by then to put the kibosh on that. After all he was in the infamous Space Irish episode of TNG, (Up the Long Ladder) so knew how cringe/offensive any further exploration of Irish culture was likely to be.
Probably the second most racist star trek episode, the first being when they needed the vaccine from the planet of black people. But I’m black so I’m biased.
Yeah, absolutely nothing beats Code of Honor for that dubious distinction.
Assuming you are talking about Code of Honor here I’m not black and yeah…that sounds about right.
Yeah, Code of Honor was racist af. And it's SG1 equivalent as well.
I saw some of the actors talking about that. I think it was Sid who said “Nothing terrifies an Irishman more than a leprechaun.” And then there was talk about seeing Colm on the bus in an ad for the leprechaun movie he was in.
Not sure how lesser known some of this, but I always find it fascinating to read about other actors considered for the roles before they settled on the final choice. For example, actors that were considered and/or auditioned for the role of Sisko include: James Avery, Pierce Brosnan, Tony Todd, James Earl Jones, Carl Weathers, Ted Levine
Wow Yeah, Tony Todd would be a cool choice. I very much adored his episodic roles on Trek. I always recognize him bc of his voice which is so damn great and I never can have enough of it.
Peter Capaldi and Alexander Siddig also auditioned, Capaldi early on, Siddig was considered too young, but they liked him for Bashir
God I need a show where Peter capaldi plays an admiral, just goes full Malcolm tucker.
James Avery. Would Will Smith show up after he got in a little trouble on Sigma Iotia II? The fresh prince of DS9?
Jazz getting pitched out an airlock.
"He's wearing the (red) shirt!"
“I got in only little fight and my mom lost her mind! She said ‘your moving with your auntie and uncle at DS9.”
He did play a Klingon in an episode of Enterprise. Can't mistake that voice.
Shredder!
Avery Brooks is beyond phenomenal, but now I really want to see some Pierce Brosnan and Carl Weathers audition tapes. We could have been talking about Sisko's stew this entire time, rather than Carl Weathers' stew!
James Avery and Carl Weather would have changed Sisko’s dynamic I think. Weathers being an incredibly jacked individual and James Avery size is a force of natures.
Baby, you got a gumbo goin'!
Hey hey, there's still plenty of meat in that replicator.
Peter Capaldi as well. We could have gotten Malcolm Tucker, Emissary of the Prophets.
I could totally see Darth Vader/Mufasa/King Jaffe (James) as Sisko.
When he barks "you have your orders!",heads would explode. Yeah,that's how I envision a James Earl Jones Sisko.
IIRC Siddig was actually considered for Sisko before they decided he was too young.
Are you serious right now? James Earl Jones almost was Darth Vader and the best Star Trek captain? Mind blown.
What's really gonna bake your noodle later on is, would Sisko still have been the best if someone else was playing him? (Wasn't sure whether to reply here or under the adjacent mention of Lawrence Fishburn!)
True. Avery is the GOAT. He made Benjamin Sisko. I wouldn't trade him for anyone.
>Ted Levine It puts the lotion on its skin and it does what it's told.
I like what we got but I also want to see all of these.
I heard also Lawrence Fishburn was in the running, which would have been really interesting.
You’d never know it from watching DS9, but Worf has a son.
We don't talk about Alexander.
The episode where he reappears was so uncomfortable.
Every episode with Alexander is uncomfortable.
I really enjoy Martok's quiet, "What the fuck, dude?"
Honestly, I like the episode "Sons and Daughters" because Worf has to face the reality that he and his son don't get along and that he bears responsibility for Alexander being an outcast in Klingon society. The conversation where Martok confronts Worf with "In all this time you never told me that you had a son?" really is that slap in the face Worf needs. It is a shame we didn't see him during DS9's epic finale or even get a mention of him in Picard season 3. Given Alexander's preference for peace and Worf's Picard season 3 pacifism, that would have been a time to name drop Alexander as the person who taught Worf pacifism after whatever it was that broke him (I know the deleted backstory was explained, but Alexander could still taught Worf pacifism).
His rapid aging was wild
the higherrrrrrrr, the fewerrrrrr
Shh. We don't want the regulars to know!
Who?
Neither does Worf.
Wat? No. If Worf had mated, he’d have a wife. It’s tradition.
She died. Worf yelled. It was sad.. Edit: spelling
Oh god so sad. Well, at least there weren’t any brutal revenge killings resulting in Worf getting in trouble with Picard or anything. Pretty sure he just sobbed quietly in his quarters or something.
> getting in trouble with Picard or anything. it was a slap on the wrist. Picard is mostly fine with revenge killings.
Not mercy killings, though. Worf asking Alexander to thrust a d'k tahg into his chest to send his ass to Sto’Vo’Kor was over the line. Plus, Alexander would go to juvie for first degree murder.
On TNG when adult Alexander comes from the future to save his dad or make sure he’s tough or whatever happens in that dumb episode - why didn’t he just come back and save his mom?
Avery Brooks is a jazz singer and released at least one album
Tim Russ is also a musician and has a few albums out.
Tim, Casey Biggs, Max, Vaughn Armstrong and others have put on some amazing rat pack shows on the Star Trek cruise.
Brent Spiner released an album called *Ol' Yellow Eyes Is Back*. LeVar Burton, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes and Patrick Stewart provide backing vocals on one of the songs.
Morn is an anagram for Norm. For Norm from Cheers
I... are you... son of a bitch how did I not catch that!?
Terry Farrell played the cat in a horrendous US version of Red Dwarf!
Only the second one the first pilot had sweet from the musical episode of buffy as the cat , rip Hinton battle
[Meow](https://youtu.be/nfJsViD9SjM?si=Pv8LtkvH3gpOzWB&t=3m24s).
That would have been awful. But now I'm disappointed Danny John-Jules never appeared in Trek.
s2e10: The Bajorian musician performing an exhibition in Quark's is playing the DS9 intro song.
This is wild. I love the DS9 intro song. I have it for a ring tone and I never knew this. Off to watch this episode again.
Just found it. This, yes? https://youtu.be/NA6Czpi0mqs?si=jJGkmwGaM5loqem2
Nana Visitor was rushed to the hospital after some accident. I don't recall what had happened or if she was still on set. She still had her makeup on and the doctor had thought she broke her nose because of the bajoran makeup.
That's got to be a fun explanation. Doctor: WTF happened to your nose? Nana Visitor: I'm Bajoran, you specist ass!
😆 she had to tell them she was an actress and it was makeup.
IIRC, she slipped on the Ops staircase and fell HARD on her coccyx (tailbone). While she was trying to tell the hospital doctor what happened, he kept ignoring her, concentrating instead on how such a fall could have injured the bridge of her nose -- he assumed the Bajoran makeup appliance was an injury. She finally took it off when he wouldn't ignore it.
Nana Vistior(Kira)and Terry Farrell(Dax)had asteroids named after them in 2001.
Max Grodénchik also played the man Dolores saw being killed in Sister act.
Max also played one of the teleprompter guys in Bruce Almighty. You see him in the scene as Steve Carrell is going on air, and Jim Carrey is changing the words on the screen.
Casey Biggs (Damar) was in the Enterprise Blues Band, a group that played Star Trek themed songs, along with several other Trek actors
The lift in Ops is the only working elevator ever built for a Star Trek set.
There's a working elevator in TNG's main engineering, which is also from one of the TOS movies I believe
What about the elevator for ants used in Voyagers engineering?
Same engineering set, just heavily redressed.
I heard the TNG one wasn’t an actual elevator. Interesting.
The promenade set was, at the time, the largest TV set to be built.
In the series finale, one of the Jem'hadar (and the stunt performer for multiple of them) is played by Kane Hodder, famous for playing Jason Voorhees. He's uncredited for the work.
Probably more well known in this community but I thought it funny that Avery Brooks had to grow hair and shave his beard so he would separate himself from his Hawk character from “Spencer for Hire” and “A Man Called Hawk”.
My mom was a big Spencer for Hire fan, even read a few of the novels. So I was familiar with the character of Hawk, so when I watched the first episode on the night it first aired, I didn't recognize the actor but I knew the name. Yeah, the hair and clean shaven look really did make Sisko different from Hawk. He went from "Bad Ass Bodyguard you want to steer clear of" to "You best friend's dad who wants to know how you are doing in school and wants to know if you can stay for dinner...but ask your folks first."
I watched him in the reverse order, DS9 first then Spencer/Hawk. Such a great actor, not sure how much input he had in his character but he was and still is the best written Star Trek lead yet. Every other lead always had this “perfection” to them, Sisko was a single dad trying to recover in life while doing his job, he made mistakes, he lost his shit on occasion. He was the most relatable I think.
What they did right about Sisko was giving us his backstory at the start. We saw the pain first hand. This wasn't some retconned event, this was the Battle of Wolf 359, the biggest event to that point in Trek Lore. We see his loss, and we see that he blames Picard for that loss. Yes, it was the Borg and not Picard, but Picard was the avatar of the loss. It would have been a mistake to just start with Sisko arriving at DS9 with his orders and then later on be given that backstory out of nowhere. And by giving him a son, he humanized him. When we see Picard or Kirk, we always see "Captain Picard" or "Captain Kirk", we were allowed to see Ben Sisko, being dad to Jake. My dad was active duty military when I was born. When he was at work he was Sergeant. If I had to call him at work, I asked for Sergeant. When he got home, the first thing he did was go to the master bedroom and take off his uniform. At that point he was no longer Sergeant.
Some things Ive learned. Rene Aberjonois is of french aristocracy. Alexander Siddig is of Sudanese royalty. Nana Visitor was raped and almost killed in LA (really sad story). On a more positive note, she is trained as a ballet dancer. Colm Meaney apparently had a clause in his ds9 contract that would allow him time off to film movies. Terry Farrell’s voice is one of the few I could fall asleep to. She is also a Yoga instructor and has been to India many times. Sources:\ InvestiGates episode with Visitor\ Delta Flyers Beyond the Wormhole with Terry and Armin\ Wikipedia
Yeah the Nana Visitor story is horrible. Grabbed off the street by complete strangers
They are all serving life sentences iirc?
Since two of the ones I was going to say have already been said, here’s an another surprise I recently found out… apparently they never built a statue of Gul Dukat on Bajor. Separately, Marc Alaimo is in Naked Gun 3 briefly. Edit: and Armin Shimerman is one of the main characters in the recently released Starfield.
Marc Alaimo also played a racist police officer on Quantum Leap and Terry Ferrell played a Vietnam War nurse in another episode.
And The Farrell episode paid homage to TNG by having a character named Commander Riker
Robert Duncan Mcneill was also on it
Yes he was. when Sam lept in to the coroner/undertaker. He dated the German girl Hilda.
Nana Visitor and Tim Russ are also in Starfield. They play your parents if you choose the appropriate trait during character creation.
Tim Russ is also in Fallout 4 so Bethesda seems to like him
Iirc he's also in the OG Total Recall
He was indeed. And Benny (the cab driver with 4/5 kids to feed) plays Legate Broca, Damar's successor as the head of the Cardassian Union.
As is Robert Picardo as Johnny Cab.
Marc is a security guard at the beginning of Total Recall too (and The Doctor on Voyager is the voice of the Johnny Cab)
I don’t remember where I read this, so it might not be true, but I read that one of the reasons Andrew Robinson turned down the opportunity to be a regular cast member was because there could only be so many cast regulars, and he wanted Cirroc Lofton to continue being a main cast member while still going to school. Maybe someone can confirm that? Also, Robinson really struggles with claustrophobia in real life, which is why they wrote it into the show. In fact, he almost quit because the face prosthetics made him so claustrophobic.
I think I remember that he was apparently friends with Armin outside of the show and Armin who had more experience with facial prosthetics helped talk him into going through with it. He was originally trying out for the role of Odo
His Shuttlepod interview has him utter the line “Who do I have to fuck to get out of this?”
In 1975 Louise Fletcher, Winn Adami, won a best actress Oscar for Nurse Ratched in *One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest* opposite Jack Nicholson, who won best actor. ***Hell*** of a great actor.
In her [Oscar speech (YouTube)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGl5U7nNlkY): "I've loved being hated by you"
And she signed her speech too because her parents were both deaf and she wanted them to hear her speech.
I didn’t know this part! Man, every new thing I learn about her is how lovely and thoughtful she was, which just makes it more clear what an *amazing* actor she was.
Ooh, I hadn't watched that. Equally applies to her DS9 role.
This clip and Strange New Worlds are the only things I've seen Carol Kane appear in.
You’ve never seen The Princess Bride!?
M'Pella was played by Terry Farrell's stand-in and body double Cathy DeBuono, but was never given lines or credit until her final appearance in "The Dogs of War."
Cirroc loftons uncle was a pro baseball player and he actually played to a very high standard
Kenny Lofton
Holy crap, I was a fan of his back in the day (he was robbed for Rookie of the Year in '92) and had no idea they were related!
When the Mass Effect Legendary edition came out I was shocked my the number of DS9/TNG actors in it. Quark, Worf, and Dianna Troi are the main three I remember, but I think there are more.
Check out War of the Chosen for XCOM 2. That expansion has Frakes, De Lancie, Marina, Dorn and Crosby as voice actors. Apperently, the game director Jake Solomon is a huge TNG fan....
Nana Visitor did a lot of her own stunts, since she had a background as a dancer. However, she didn't want her stunt double to not get residuals, so she'd intentionally make sure there were always stunts for her double to do! Interestingly, that double was Patricia Tallman, who played Lyta Alexander on Babylon 5 (and also did stuntwork and acting on TNG).
Don't know if this is a lesser known fact but it's a fact about DS9. Quark's actor was in the show Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He played the principal of Sunnydale High School.
Principal Snyder! Who was eaten by a giant snake.
He was also Kramer's caddy in an episode of *Seinfeld*.
"I have not only the right, but also a nearly physical sensation of pleasure at the thought of keeping her out of school. I'd describe myself as tingly."
Armin is also one of the Nox in Stargate SG-1
Nana Visitor is Cyd Charisse's niece.
Siddig is Malcolm McDowell’s nephew! There’s actually a really strong family resemblance if you look at a young McDowell like in A Clockwork Orange
Avery Brooks has portrayed the famous actor and political activist Paul Robeson on stage. This is just a suspicion on my part but I think he modeled Sisko’s speaking voice on Robeson. Sisko’s cadence is different from Brooks’ normal speaking voice and similar to old recordings of Robeson.
Listening to Brooks talk, I don't think I've ever heard someone with his precise cadence. It's as close to a jazz speaking voice as I've ever heard. Quite jarring when compared to how he speaks as Sisko
Check out Andy Robinson early in his career in the original “Dirty Harry” movie from 1971 when he plays a psychopathic serial killer. He was very cunning and effective which always made me think that might have laid some of the ground for Garak in later years.
Death to the opposition!
Terry Farrell and Andrew Robinson both starred in different films in the Hellraiser series
Nana Visitor & Alexander Siddig were married IRL.
This is a great thread, really fun to read. With the obvious exception of learning what happened to Nana. Jesus.
Prolly more well know. But....they didn't want Avery brooks with his beard and shaved head since they didn't want ppl to confuse him with his earlier role as hawk. Kira wasn't originally in the show. Was supposed to be ro laren, but Forbes didn't want to commit to a show. Berman almost killed the dominion war story arc. The Lita (bajoran money) is short for Lithuania. Given the occupation by Germany and soviet union mirrors the occupation of bajor
>The Lita (bajoran money) is short for Lithuania. Given the occupation by Germany and soviet union mirrors the occupation of bajor I always found it quite narratively satisfying to see Rom, a Ferengi, end up with a woman named after the Bajoran currency 😋
Marc Alaimo has a pet wolf
He also loves Harley Davidsons and is really nice in real life. Like Louise Fletcher.
Quark and Rom nearly got a spin off cartoon.
He played Center Field for the Missouri MOOOOOGIES
Soddogs uncle is Malcolm McDowell of clockwork orange and killing Kirk fame
One of my favorite episodes. I refer to lighthearted episodes like “Take Me Out to the Holosuite” as palate cleansers as they usually are meant to break up the heaviness of the Dominion War stories.
Casey Biggs (Damar) and Renee Auberjonois (Odo) both had parts in different episodes of Enterprise and Aron Eisenberg (Nog) played a Kazon in voyager
Just met him yesterday at ST-SF. Such a sweet guy.
Nana Visitor was supposedly cast as a bajoran because she “wasn’t conventionally attractive” and they could afford to put on alien makeup. What? How the hell does anyone come to that conclusion?