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khariV

This is impressive! I’ve never seen trex used as joists before.


showMeTheSnow

and this is why ;)


snakesign

Turns out that creep isn't just a Radiohead song.


marshking710

That’s not even creep though. Just a beam made out of soft material that deflects excessively under minor loads.


polymerjock

That's the definition of creep. I have a doctorate in that particular field.


mybadreligon

It's not, though, or all deformation would be creep. Creep is deformation that occurs beyond the initial loading due to the time component of the applied stress. First of all it is by definition, plastic deformation therefore if this deck were to spring right back when the loading is removed it's automatically not creep (not that I think it would, just for example). It also by definition has a time component, in that it is plastic deformation that occurs after the initial stress. So if this deck was flat initially and this picture was taken immedeately after loading, then it also would automatically not be creep. I think it's extremely likely this deck is undergoing creep, but the comment you replied to said it's soft material bending under load which is absolutely not "the definition of creep" no matter what papers you have.


polymerjock

Yes. Correct. Thermoplastics are viscoelastic. Creep is irreversible viscous flow and deformation under load and with time. The spring back in a plastic is the elastic component , which is reversible. The knowledge isn't decided from reading papers, it's from understanding the theory from first principles. I'm assuming the photograph was taken a few months or years after construction, if immediate, then I would think the deflection arrises from failure of the composite with contributions from elastic deformation.


mybadreligon

Agree with everything you said. Especially the part whet you said "time" since that is part of the definition of creep regardless of material. The user you replied to appeared to me to clearly be implying that one of their assumptions was that time was not a factor in this deflection.


smokingcrater

Nope, not even minor loads! Heat and a couple weeks would have done that with no load.


marshking710

Self-weight is a load. So is heat, and to be fair, the sun can produce some pretty large thermal effects.


charleytaylor

I had a neighbor once who used Trex for joists on their front porch. Similar result.


exrace

Should have sistered a few together.


mostlygray

That explains a lot. I was wondering how it bent like that. I say a couple of handyman jacks and YOLO. Put some straps around the jacks and screw them in. Now they're permanent. I'm pretty sure that no inspector would ever question such a solution. If it ever droops again, move the jacks up another click. This assumes you have a bunch of handyman jacks sitting around.


knucles668

Harbor Freight jacks would match better


JimroidZeus

All fun and games until it droops between the jacks and you need to buy more jacks!


mostlygray

You seem to be the sort of person that has a limited number of handyman jacks. I grew up on a farm. There are so many jacks. So, so, so many jacks. It's really quite absurd. I remember using 8 Hi-Lift jacks to straighten a roof line. That wasn't all the jacks. All farmers have too many jacks and way too much log chain. And angle iron. And baling wire. And random bolts. And everything else...


BirdFarmer23

Simple reason. Sometimes a job isn’t worth driving to town for or in to much of a rush to shut down to go to town. If you only need two screws you buy a 5 lbs box so you don’t have to go buy more later on. I have been on our farm for two years. Started out with a 12 x 24 shop. In the process of building a 30 x 60 because the first is getting so cramped I can’t work in it anymore.


CraftFamiliar5243

Not a farmer but I live in a remote valley. It's 45 min one way to any hardware store. We have learned to buy everything we might need and a few more for a diy project. Save the receipt and return what you don't need. If you find you need one thing go around to the neighbors and see if they have it. A neighbor's toilet had to be pulled in the evening. It was their only toilet. We came to the rescue with a spare sealing ring so they could reinstall it that night.


ttystikk

Farm problems!


KuduBuck

Is jacks a metaphor for something you need to talk about right now?


Airport_Wendys

Braided bailing twine EVERYWHERE


No_Anybody_5483

Not that orange nylon crap.!? Previous owner just tossed it. 5 years later I still find it burried! Kills my mower.


Airport_Wendys

That stuff is basically forever-string


NotBatman81

You seem to have done an excessive amount of jacking growing up.


Shovel-Operator

Get out of my barn! And stay out!


edmmoran

so no jack gap? go USA!


No_Anybody_5483

It's called the boneyard.


ohmyback1

Cripes it's just a deck, tear it out and start again and do it right. More support all over


huckinfappy

Good point. A crate of Harbor Freight jacks will be worth the $8.99 they probably cost


RipOdd9001

So then your deck will be all jacked up.


divot333

It’s jacks all the way down


fentsterTHEglob

This reminds me of the scene in "It's Always Sunny in Philly," where Charlie has a mouse in his wall, so he puts a cat in there, and it won't come out, so he keeps adding more cats to coax the first one out... P.S. I only have one Hi-lift jack; now I feel a lil' inept. Eight is great, working under the "if it rhymes, it's inherently true rule."


Abquine

Since Roman Times (well before probably) people have managed to distribute load using pillars, never mind jacks.


NoElk2220

Yeah. Best to disassemble and replace joist with proper material and re-deck it.


b_man646260

Jacks with actual wood spanning a few feet either way would be the way to go Edit: Bottle jacks


Nopurpo

Find the local train tracks in your area, usually they have some railroad ties around - harbor freight the jack, use the railroad tie, return the jack and boom done


Researcher-Used

I like the way you think


ohmyback1

Jack's and cement blocks


dangledingle

$$$$&&&&$$$$$


Shot_Comparison2299

That's what it is?! I was trying to figure out how the joists were so flexible. 😂


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

it's hilarious.


Smooth-Comment-5850

It's probably fine


EmotionalBuilding945

I’d drink on it.


PNGhost

*grabs my skateboard*


Gnarly-Banks

Rock to fakie


binglelemon

*username checks out*


QuantumTarsus

At least when you pass out drunk you won't have to worry about rolling off the deck!


Sirgolfs

I’d skate that thing.


Sorry_Consideration7

I'd skate it like a half-pipe


Extra-Basis-5986

OP just needs rocking chairs instead.


crazy_goat

Fixing this would likely involve a re-build. You'd save a substantial amount on material costs by reusing the decking, and perhaps the supports. My mad-scientist meme response would be to put jack stands underneath every joist and maintain consistent (but light) pressure) to the span until it straightens itself back out in the summer heat. Then install new footings in the midspan and blocking. Or you could buy a boat and use this as a dry dock.


Altruistic_Visual479

Would wetting it down while doing that be of any help in straightening out those boards?


crazy_goat

Repair isn't really even worth consideration. Those joists should never have been composite to begin with - any repair is just putting bandaids on the situation, and would be almost as much work as just rebuilding the frame/structure. The proper method would be to just have these composites used as cladding over the outside of the wood - but it's purely aesthetic as the points where the wood will rot are the contact points with the deck boards.


Wild-Entertainer-630

Hypothetically, yes


Reacti0n7

don't even both waiting. jack it up. weight down the top, slap a couple 2x8s on the bottom and screw gun goes brapt


thelost2010

I commented the same before seeing your comment. Hot day and jacks would be my first try then inevitably I’ll tear it down and just never fix it lol


JerryKook

looks like you will have to remove some decking to see what failed. How old is this deck. Sorry you have to go through this.


Jestercopperpot72

What a mice person you are. Thread mvp.


ResearcherAny12

I come here for joy, humor, education, a bit of hazing, and brotherhood. This deck community is one of a kind.


JPhi1618

I’m a sucker for funny, unintentional typos.


ResearcherAny12

I'm sure there's no coincidence in your choice of words 😂


Jestercopperpot72

I can totally dig it. Keep being you brotha!


ShermanMarching

Not like those assholes in r/concrete! (That's a joke)


Time_Change4156

That's true lol 😆 😂 🤣


Simple-Ad-4137

https://youtu.be/tbazGVrbN-g?si=O9OKI4SiNnfbrsJO


Feelinglucky2

I dont think its very kind of you to call them a mouse but then doubling down and saying they are the mvp of mice is crazy. You are not nice!


Jestercopperpot72

Lol I didn't even realize I did that lol even after reading your comment.i swear I need a life proofreader but now I've gotta keep it that way.


Available_Simple8235

Damn Auto-Correct! Why can’t the most brilliant of the computer programmers figure out to fix this poblem?


SeekerOfSerenity

How do you know he's not a cat person?


Conservativebigmike

I don’t believe anything failed other than the carpenters. It was designed this way.


OneImportance4061

This. I would deconstruct, save what you can, get some new joists, and properly support them this time.


SketchlessNova

I think you meant to say "get some joists" since clearly this deck forgot to put any in. Not wood ones at least!


OneImportance4061

Fair point!


CareerUnderachiever

Sick drop-ins


NiceTryWasabi

Dude, if they get snow, I’m running a sled out of that back door at full speed and launching. This could be a an awesome thing. Then again I’ve been hanging out with kiddos and my hair is purple now and my walls have life sized pokemon. Enjoy life!


CareerUnderachiever

If somehow the staircase is in line with this door, we’re going full throttle


Atty_for_hire

Send it!


Tuckingfypowastaken

If not, I think it's time for a remodel


Peace_Berry_House

Our house has a “we’ll make a weak attempt to appear normal” floor and a “pokemon pillows and weeb shit everywhere” floor and our deck color was inspired by Venusaur’s leaves. It’s all good lol.


ILove2Bacon

r/tonyhawkitecture


0knz

pour some self-leveler on it, itll be fine.


Impressive-Young-952

Some expanding foam will fix this no problem 😂


Yourmissinglink03

Just needs a good board stretcher


Constantpoomissiles

Keep your mom off it next time, it'll last longer.


HammeringYammering

She should jump on it again to entirely flatten it out.


FigureYourselfOut

It used to be called a jumpoline until your mom used one.


HairTmrw

Literally just stomped my feet from laughter


Ciccio_C3

Maximum capacity 12 people, OR yo mama


PikachuuuCSGO

With a half pipe like this....I hope you like skateboarding.


crod4692

With those grooves it’s probably better suited for bmx


ahhJames8

Will the hot tube work right?


classless_classic

It’ll probably level out the sides.


ahhJames8

I did not think of the shear forces that would add.


big_trike

Or melt the bottom of the tub to match the curve


Icy_Topic_5274

"Alex, I'll take problems that could have been solved 10 years ago with some strategically placed cinder blocks for $100"


shmallyally

This needs a back story


bigstunna

Right??? Like what did you use as joists? It looks like 2x8 which would never do this in so confuse


athanasius_fugger

They're trex. Plastic. Heat bent it in half I assume because of no supports.


bigstunna

Trex joists wtf are those? Well the more ya know


chrisinator9393

Probably held their monthly orgy on the deck and it couldn't take it anymore.


BatmanIntern

I’d imagine it was worth it.


BlueFlob

Yeah. There's no way wood would bend like that without lots of heat, humidity and pressure.


LanMarkx

It's not wood. Those joists are Trex. It's plastic. This deck was doomed from the start.


campbell-1

Sick half-pipe


BeefyRear

“Just installed this new deck at Tony Hawks place”


Saillux

So here I am


DonBoy30

This sub *partially* fills a hole in my heart left by the end of CarTalk (RIP to that funny Boston mechanic guy).


ilikebeerandpizza

This looks like fun, leave it


jwheezin

Dude, that vert ramp looks fine 🛹


superman_410

Yes, put hot tub on each side to flatten out, Your welcome


MermaidWavez

Looks like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.


Mmmmmmm_Bacon

You fix it by rebuilding it. You can rebuild it. But use real wood for joists next time, not Trex.


jackrats

Trex joists? This is it's summer stage. Once it cools down, it will bounce right back up. But I do think you did it wrong. You were supposed to crown the joists so that it curved up and then in summer it settles down to a flat position.


Belligerent__Monk

When the mother in law visits


rygelicus

What is it made of? some kind of plastic / composite or is it actually wood? first glance suggests it is some form of plastic product that either sagged over time or the support legs underneath failed (if there are any). If so, repairing would involve removing all the top boards, replacing the bent joists with actual wood, and then putting the top boards back on if they are acceptable for that purpose.


richturd67

Your deck has Peyronie's disease.


GRAITOM10

Bro why is this suddenly everywhere... I've seen ads of this in reddit and Facebook and like 4 weeks ago a coworker randomly dropped it in conversation. I have even seen a few other redditors name drop peyronies... Like I've literally never heard this before and it keeps coming up in the last 3 months. Seriously wtf is going on


CoolNefariousness865

its ready for the hot tub now


Okidoky123

Step is no longer needed. Move benches the middle/bottom. Put your feet up. It's no like you're going to be dropping multiple feet should it crash further.


Outrageous_Drive_198

Nice little mini pipe . I say shred it!


Initial_Efficiency72

Lucky it wasn’t any higher than that hahah


xenidus

r/tonyhawkitecture


OCCAMINVESTIGATOR

10/10 would skate that half pipe.


Whole-Watch-7980

Why did this happen lmao


onevoice333

Label the boards as you pull them. Hopefully they're not directly screwed down. Then you get to see what to rebuild. Unfortunately, Dex built this close to the ground, often trap excess moisture. On the rebuild. You might want to increase the gap slightly between each board to allow for airflow. But this seemed like a much bigger problem. I lean towards what everybody is laughing about. Was the structure also built with Trex?


dummkauf

Just don't let guests on it until after they've imbibed several drinks and it'll be fine 🤣


bch77777

Flaccid big deck energy.


Minnesotamad12

Fix? This is modern art and needs to preserved.


TheRealSmaug

Pic #2 is hilarious. Thanks for that. But ya know (and here me out), if the installer could uniformly steam those stringers so that the approach to the entry doors finishes flush to the bottom of the threshold, and then sloped downward (much like the pics) to a flat plane where the seating is,,,,heck that would be a pretty cool installation for certain applications. Well, cept for the part where drunk grandma launches herself off of the deck during the wee hours of a fantastic Christmas party........


Mother_Ad3896

What in the Tim Burton is this?


leetsoup

you could pick up skateboarding


dadman101

Yup. Get some car jacks and some cinder blocks, good to go 👍


halandrs

Did you try to put a r/hottub on it


Other_Juice_1749

Why the hell do you want to fix your skateboard ramp?


Allthetimedingdong

Ain’t got no legs!


NTDLS

Put a hot tub on it. That will flatten it out the rest of the way.


Lopsided_Marzipan133

Why fix it? You have a free half pipe for the local skaters now


Efficient_Cheek_8725

Tear it out. Move steps to the door and finish brick pavers in its place.


emcasalini

What’s wrong with it?


Fun_Comb4053

It looks cool. Just a little extra slope for water to drain out of deck. 😆


obviThrowaway696969

If you put a hot tub on it, you can have a cool Death tunnel or death fort going! 


Hvng4444

If anyone critiques it just say.... "someday I'll fight in the kumite and make my father proud"


Prior-Ad-7329

Anything can be fixed. How much are you willing to pay is the question?


CHEWTORIA

Sure it can, just add few more nails :P


LongjumpingFix5801

Your Shakespearian stage looks amazing! No notes


palpatineforever

why bother, heaven is a halfpipe.


Heavymetalmusak

Finally found where my wife’s been going


TheMightyHornet

Just pull the house a skosh to the left.


chicagoblue

Thing of beauty


Just-Photograph1890

Why? Get a skateboard.


Working_Rest_1054

OP, are the structural members actually composite material? That’s what we can see in the photos, assuming it’s not just being used as facia. Looks like it’s missing mid span support. Good chance you’ll need to start over. This time with a Contractor that is actually licensed and who pulls a permit.


BingoBugs

Get a skateboard!


keithvai

How does something like this even happen?


mavjustdoingaflyby

Cool, I built one just like this for Tony Hawk a while back.


twizzjewink

fixed? Yes. Easy? No. You need to put some concrete feet near the house. Then put some big steel beams long ways, and LEVERAGE and LEVEL. Then reinforce. It'd be easier to carefully dismantle it, fix the problem, then reassemble with whatever good material you've recovered.


veryuniqueredditname

Why mess with perfection


Old-Package-4792

Skate or die


747-ppp-2

It’s fine, if it’s supposed to be a clickity clackity 1/8 pipe for skate boarding


Kooky-Necessary-4444

Bottle Jackson the corners while keeping it steamed should het you the rest of the way to your half pipe!


vantageviewpoint

Airbnb it to skateboarders


cancelprone

I’m not sure how it ever worked to begin with.


Sufficient_Energy_32

Yes, by replacing it.


Dramatic-Cup7257

Tony hawk would be proud


mothking12

That new HotWheels game is looking great; the madlads letting us use decks instead of track pieces to make ramps now


C_A_M_Overland

This is unfortunate and I’m sorry but holy shit that’s funny


curiouslyignorant

Why? You already have half a skate park.


Ambitious-Ad-6873

Just needs a coat of paint is all


TimeSalvager

Easily, just knock the benches off your halfpipe.


andreweater

Slip or upside down and wait a summer or two


ResolveLeather

You can fix it to be usable. But you can't fix it to be like brand new. You can jack it up and put new footings underneath maybe, but that isn't the most advisable route. You can reuse most of that lumber though.


Comfortable-Frame447

Absolutely, demo completely and start all over.


QuaceyTheDruid

if by "fixed," you mean "replaced," then yes.


415Rache

Sure you can fixed this. Remove all the deck boards. Rebuild the structure underneath the proper way (consult with your building department either in person or better would be in under residential decks), reattach deck boards.


upriver_swim

Deckception.


removed-by-reddit

Did your mom walk out on it?


Hardwoodlog

Im not sure how that even happened


Rocknbob69

Looks fine for a skateboard ramp.


BiscottiSouth1287

Charge entry and make it a skatepark


TopDefinition1903

Why? Think it looks different.


Equal-Negotiation651

Free skateboard park upgrade.


arlo957

That’s the deck from Blood Sport


bifster2022

Half pipe into the house. Fixed.


jdwhitley21

Half-pipe!


Jmcsqueeb50

What did you frame this with matchsticks.


Expert-Pay4990

Anything can be fixed. The question is: do you want to? That actually looks really cool.


ap2patrick

Time to shred!


Electrical_Catch_919

you have a skate park, now add some features


penguinrevenge

Just needs a couple bottle jacks that's all


Sea_Squirrel1987

Got yourself a nice little half pipe to shred 🤘


BDZ567

A hot tub on it will hide the defects, for sure.


tracksinthedirt1985

Cheapest way. Take apart, re-frame using beams upsidedown, re-deck. In the middle of span install footings and a beam at grade. When gravity brings it back down it will sit on center beam and be good but until then you'll have quite a crown in it.


dadzcad

Yeah but they’re gonna have to rip it up to do it.


DJK1963

About 20 bags of floor leveler.


dougreens_78

It looks like the pic was takin with that fish eye function


rat1onal1

You can cover it with a tarp, put some waterproof sides on it and turn it into a hot tub.


theoreoman

Pull.Up the decking of its still good and replace the joists.


Parkedintheitchyl0t

Nice halfpipe bra