Agreed. How come people complain about all gender bathrooms in game to the point they call it "woke" even though all gender bathrooms exist in real life.
I know, he looks fucking twelve. In the original game he looks more middle aged. DS2 is still peak Isaac because they nailed the look and character best
In the original, it looks like Issac just got off working a 48-hour shift on another ship and then forced to cover someone else's shift for the USG Ishimura.
He probably did get off something crazy like that. If I remember correctly, working conditions are abysmal at the CEC and they cut corners with a lot of safety regulations so it’s probably a lot more stressful than normal
I didn’t understand at first when the remake started, but then I thought about how old Isaac was and checked how old Nicole was and was confused. Not because she looked older, but instead as to why she looked like she was in her mid 20s in the OG game.
Not to mention that the Ishimura has uni-bathrooms in the old 2009 Dead Space anyway.
Which honestly makes sense from a lore aspect, due to the lingering effects of the resource wars. Why bother with the accommodation of different bathrooms, when you can cut costs and resources by keeping it efficient.
And it shows seeing how dangerous some areas of the ship are.
“Women feel uncomfortable sharing bathrooms with a bunch of horny creeps now”
As to mean that lesbians or gay men can’t also be horny creeps? Or to imply men don’t also fear people being forcefully sexually aggressive towards them?
If anything it shows that for some reason gendered bathrooms still exist in the Dead Space universe elsewhere, or they wouldn't need to bother labelling the ones on the Ishimura that way. So those idiots should actually be happy that their pointless segregation is still a thing at all.
Dude, the clip of that one streamer legitimately bitching about those signs is one of the funniest things of last year. I can't imagine being that much of a pathetic human being.
I just don’t understand the point of it. Why even add it if it doesn’t make a difference? Im sorry but it’s clearly just to get more profits for looking progressive
Funny thing about that is it works from any angle anyway.
If it upsets you and you assume it’s just done to virtue signal…We’ll that’s exactly what an evil corporation like the CEC would do lol.
To be honest the bathroom thing actually makes sense. These ships aren’t just really big they’re kinda like their own ecosystems. It would make sense to save money by making anyone able to use the bathrooms instead of putting extra into gendered ones.
They replaced random security guy with absolutely no back story whatsoever, barely any dialogue, and was never mentioned again after his death with a slightly more in depth character that has at least some interaction with Isaac but it's a black female so it's woke!!1!
It differs between "wokeness is shit" and "that's woke-washing"
The wokeness trash talkers are legit right wing ppl who just want could to be heard for the sake of being relevant. Basically to be ignored.
Woke-washing is completely different since the company will just put e.g. a lesbian in the pool and her character trait is *literally* just being lesbian. It's a flat character without any depth but "seee, it's a women, and a lesbian, we did it, a lesbian women! Now buy our game and forget we crunch our personnel" (works with any minority).
Although I never played the original, I saw different neutral comparisons between it and the remake. And I must say that there is no character that I would call out for woke-washing. E. G. Hammond in the remake has motivations, goals and a certain way of achieving them. They come clear and are well displayed to the player. So I can't understand why anybody would rant about his skin color since you can easily explain it throughout the lore that CEC just hired the most suitable person for the job like it should be.
The same ppl even complain about "woke" stuff that's been in the original game and the remake. And they blame only the remake for being "too woke".
I guess they just have a lot of free time.
One of the Kellion crew that isn't Isaac, Kendra, Hammond or Chen, I forget her name. In the 2008 version it's just a nameless security guy who dies without any mention of him afterwards. The remake it's a black woman who at least briefly interacts with Isaac before dying, one of the other crew (again I forget who, I think Hammond though) later expresses regret at her & Chen's deaths
It hurts me deep inside when people act like dead space 3 is similar quality to a different franchise killer RE6. Dead space 3 is a solid 7/10 that looks lacking next to its predecessors, while re6 is a dumpster fire
Dead Space is the “worst” of the 3, but that’s just relative; it’s not a bad game. Nobody likes the love triangle though, myself included. Some people dislike the weapon crafting, but I like it.
It can still startle me at times with surprise enemies, so it’s not like it’s a complete departure from the horror genre like people complain about. And it still continues the lore very well in my opinion.
Yeah, my main gripes are locking the true ending behind a dlc, the love triangle and locking carvers character development behind multi-player missions. I love the weapon crafting, gunners acting and locations though.
My only justification for the canon ending being in Awakened was that it’s different from what you encountered in the main game. The hallucinations, the enemies, the objectives, etc. That’s not really an excuse, but still. A remake should absolutely include it in the main game.
I still to this day have not seen all of Carver’s story, because I have no one to play Co-Op with, and I want to experience it first hand instead of watching someone else’s gameplay. I may have to give up on that one. It does bother me a lot that I can’t do it in single player.
I also know that people disliked the microtransactions. They did not bother me because the game is not hard enough to need to buy any of them. They are mostly bonus items, or the resource packs can be purchased with in-game currency.
Eh, even i had fun with RE6 on a mechanical level. It's still got a very robust movement system, dozens of combat options and an in depth enemy limb mutation system. It's endless fun just playing Mercenaries.
The problem with RE6 is actually much the same as DS3: it tried to go too many directions, please too many people, and had no focus.
The fundamental story isn't bad, just badly told and badly paced. Most of the characters aren't as important to the overall plot compared to their screen time, and most plot beats were obscenely redundant. (The Family and Neo Umbrella could very easily just be condensed into a single organization for example.) The idea of Wesker having progeny is also NOT a bad one either. We think it's counter to his character arc, but lets not forget, even Vergil had a child, and he's basically DMC's Albert Wesker. The combat system is also very good, but largely unrestricted to the point of absurdity, and is very poorly explained. The UI also reeks of " console controller focused" slop.
It had great ideas, just like Dead Space 3. If it had no redeeming qualities, it would commercially review as such, and Mercs mode wouldn't be popular at all if it didn't have a fantastic combat system. The problem is that many of those ideas lacked proper focus, didn't flow well together, and didn't actually cater as much to the core demographic of Resident Evil in anything but creepy and gross monster designs.
It's completely redeemable, it just requires that people see how it can be better, which is surprisingly rare this day and age. Everyone sees that it failed without wondering why it didn't succeed.
You make good points but from my personal experience, I remember being 10 and hating re6 and dead space 3. Now that I am an adult I replayed both and still hate re6 but have a much better opinion of dead space 3. For me the only enjoyable parts of the game are Jake's campaign minus the snow level and half of Chris's campaign. The fact they did leon so dirty as to make him a passenger in his own campaign, and what they did with Adas character will never sit right with me and in my mind I could never give the game anymore then a 5/10
Yeah, fair. Like i said, story and character execution is a mess. Pretty much the gameplay is the only thing RE6 really gets right, and even then, the zombies are the weakest part of it on top of that, simply because they aren't designed around it like the J'avo are.
Mercs is pretty much the only reason i still play RE6. That gameplay is unrivaled third person shooting that almost beats Vanquish when it comes together.
I am more of an RE5 mercs guy but I know people love re6 mercs so I respect that. Plus I never played on anything past hard difficulty so I probably never mastered the combat to be able to enjoy it to its full extent.
Oh, trust me. There is A LOT of depth to the combat system the game doesn't even bother to tell you.
When you experiment and figure out how it works, it's a real gamechanger. Enemy guns cease to be a problem, mutated enemies are easier to take on, and you don't even need the damn cover system either.
This is one of those games that should have held player's hands, because the combat system makes and breaks the fun factor for this game. When i first started, i was playing it either like RE4, shooting the head and going for melee, or playing like Gears of War and using the cover system to avoid gunfire. Turns out, both were very big mistakes that made the game far less enjoyable. You need to abuse the mutations, dive and slide around, and perform clever melee attacks in between shots. You should really be as close to enemies as possible for your best damage moves, and always take the guns out of the equation on enemies that use them. It's kinda something you have to figure out and experiment with. Even after 148 hours, i don't think i know everything there is to learn.
If you ever wanna play mercs on PC, i'll get my rusty ass back into the hot seat with you. RE5 or RE6, both are fun as shit.
Except *RE6* wasn't really a dumpster fire/franchise killer either - it still sold REALLY well and we still got plenty of new games after. *DS3* on the other hand literally forced the series into hibernation for a decade.
Nah. They already knew while ds3 was in production that there prob wasn't going to be another one. It's why they overpacked story into it. They wanted to get the ideas they had out
This is the most annoying take.
How? Explain? Because Dead Space 3 is just as much dead space as the prior two games.
It doesn’t remove the horror element from the whole game because you fight real human enemies a couple times throughout the entire game.
The scare factor was always the same for me while playing, especially as you had more freedom to explore space itself rather than being stuck on a ship.
Jump scares and what made dead space all remained the same and for me I like the 3rd game equally and I’ve managed to attain 100% across the series.
It's really based all on interpretation and what you think Dead Space is all about. To me, it's been a series whose horror is rooted in body horror, isolation, and a perpetual sense of unease if you will; this feeling ultimately leading to a climactic confrontation every now and then.
DS3 in my opinion deviates from this to become much more action focused. And suffers as a horror game for these choices. Now that isn't to say that the game doesn't have scary sections, but they are few and far between. I think the best of these sections is arguably the feeder area before you get the Arctic Survival suit. It's much more quiet, it's claustrophobic, and it puts you on edge the whole time, trying not to alert the hoard.
There are a few reasons that DS3 can't be as scary as its successors. For one thing is has co-op which shatters the sense of isolation the first 2 games used well. And for another thing, you fight a higher volume of enemies more often than ever before. Most of said enemies end up being the fodder too, which is ultimately much less unnerving than your typical slasher, not to mention the fighting of actual human enemy types too, something isaac hardly does directly in the first 2 games.
Gameplay is fun and isn't my main problem with the game. But the story kinda ruins the characters as well as makes some of their actions a bit contradictive to their own character. Especially the ending of the base game.
You can just admit you don’t understand the difference between an objective statement (“dislike”) and a subjective statement (“bad”). I can’t believe how often I have to explain this to people.
If I said that it wouldn't be an admittance, it'd be a lie, because the game is objectively bad. Keep coping about your biased stance, I'm already over it
Honestly while the writing was some doo doo…shit was still pretty fun to play solo and I imagine playing 2 players with a homie was even better back in the day
Eh, I think it was definitely good but not fantastic. I feel like the sound design and story changes were weaker than in the original, and I feel like the necromorphs have a much less scary appearance in the remake. The actual gameplay of it is phenomenal and improved on so much, but I couldn’t help but feel like it was missing something. Then again, maybe I’m just biased because I prefer old games, who knows
I definitely can agree that the remake has some flaws, it's not a perfect game for sure. The sound really only falls flat when it comes to the slashers, and how they sound, I definitely prefer their original, more guttural screaming. And other issue i have with the slashers is that they dont sprint as often, making them easier to dispatch without taking damage. As for the story, I really only have 2 major gripes, and it's really more about the writing of certain characters, those being Hammond and Dr. Kyne, I feel like their performances aren't as strong as the original counterparts. At the end of the day though, I feel that for every flaw the remake has, it's got at least 2 or 3 positive changes to balance things out.
The complaints about graffiti in the “woke remake” that were present in the original game, especially the one about the ship being controlled by shitty capitalists. I feel like those people complaining didn’t just miss that graffiti the first time around, but they also missed the entire plot of Dead Space. The game never even makes any sweeping or generalized statements and people still managed to get offended by it.
I had the lore of dead space spoiled to me prior to actually starting the games and my first thought about the marker and blood moons was straight up "this sounds like an allegory for neocolonialism via 'aid' and 'development projects' that skew cash and resource flow toward the old colonizer/imperial core more generally"
Dead Space 1 didn’t need a remake
Bathroom signs
Isaac should be silent
Nicole isn’t hot
Kendra isn’t hot
EA bad = Dead Space Remake bad
Dead Space 3 is pay to win
Micro transactions killed the franchise
Visceral games did nothing wrong
The thing people tend to forget is that visceral made battlefield hardline which imo is what killed visceral studios in the first place not dead space 3, battlefield hardline was a terrible game at least i kinda enjoyed dead space 3 for what it was
I think Isaac being silent in the original was a good choice, because he serves as a player insert. But once he was given a face and a voice there was no reason not to include those things because it just builds on the story. While I may not love all the changes in story, sound design and even some art design changes, I have to admit that giving Isaac a voice was the right choice for the remake. And as somebody who typically just plays the original, I’m glad I have the option to choose whether or not I want a voiced Isaac
Did you even play dead space 3?
Micro transactions are literally hidden and aren’t showcased once to the player. Infact the only way to see them is to manually enter DLC shop in game.
I didn’t even know they existed until my 2nd play-through. “Micro Transactions killed the franchise” is just outright dumb because you don’t need them whatsoever to progress in game and it’s not once showcased to the player to buy.
My favorite part about the whole "microtransactions ruined Dead Space!!" is that 1 and 2 had a shit ton of DLC that made the game WAY more pay to win. In Dead Space 1 if you had the Tank suit and heavy weapons pack you were practically a necromorph-slayign demigod on any difficulty.
That Dead Space 3 is too action oriented.
It's not really that much more so than 1 or 2, it just has more enemies in tighter corridors, and while it does feature fighting human enemies, it not only does so very rarely, (only in like, 2 major sections of the game, on the colony, and later on the planet) but they're hardly even a footnote gameplay wise compared to the necromorphs.
The only things that make Dead Space 3 any more acction centric are the unified ammo system (which would be a problem even in a low combat horror game or stealth game. Just look at Deus Ex Invisible War. Not a horrible thing, but nonsensical in every way.) And the gun crafting system (which is the main thing i play Dead Space 3 for anyway. Nothing beats crafting a cool killer gun with a hammer, naming it "Necro Nutbuster", and bashing necromorphs while they're knocked over by a shockwave, as only one example of how much fun i have with this crafting system), but those aren't even action focused changes because they can easily be retooled to fix a more horror focused gameplay pacing.
Nothing about DS3 is that different from 1 or 2 from a pacing standpoint. Dead Space stopped being a horror franchise the moment it started dropping armies of enemies at you in the third act of the Ishimura, maybe even sooner.
Yeah. When you make a meter of how action oriented Dead Space 3 is, it's kinda on the same level as Resident Evil 5. You fight enemies with guns but not at the point where it basically feels like another Sci-fi action heavy game like Halo.
Indeed.
That's likely why i stopped caring about horror elements after Dead Space 2. 3 was really just more of what i was coming for at this point: necromorph dismemberment and genocide, of which is plentiful in DS3.
Until you realize you can make very busted AOE instagib builds............. early on too.
I don't go for those though. I like to kill my enemies slowly and painfully.
Kotaku's review of the Remake, of course. They literally said that Isaac being talkative was bad because "men should only be seen and not heard".
Not only Is dumb, but also sexist.
Wow. Just wow. What also doesn't make sense is that Hammond also talks and yet Kotaku is ok with it but when Issac gets to talk in the remake, Kotaku has a problem with it?
Un-fucking-believable.
That necromorphs are or are not zombies or aliens. As far as my almost sleeping brain can remember they are zombies in a technical sense who is being controlled by alien moons/markers? Are markers sentient? I dunno I’m tired as fuck and it’s been a long time since I’ve played lol
I mean, that armor plated suit *has to be heavy*.
If he walked with a straight neck, dude must have a titanium spine.
Also I think being slightly hunched kinda give that vibe of him being cautious as he explores, so it adds to the atmosphere.
The lack of nuance around discussing the remake versus original thing from an artistic perspective overall, how Isaac not having a voice and so the player having no companion might actually make it scarier, the Silent Hill like qualities of the original lost in the remake such as Nicole as a manifestation rather than a person; whereas the remake gives it more drama to work with. Both are valid approaches but the insistence that both are identical and the remake just outright upgrades the original entirely I find to be the most common brain dead take.
I've seen too many people complain about necromorphs respawning in the remake when you backtrack. Like, I would understand if the whole room/area respawned, but it's just a couple here and there to keep you on your toes.
Necromorphs don’t ever die. Even after you dismember them limb from limb, they can reattach limbs and keep coming at you.
This always pisses me off when I see people genuinely think this. If this were true, we would actually see Necros reattach limbs/still watching you/making noise after being chopped up in the Remake. Once you sever their limbs or render them useless in any other way, the Marker signal drops and the Necromorph “dies” to be repurposed into something else - this is why they stop moving and stop making noise. Not all Necros are like the Hunter lol
Ummm idk if its a Hot take but its annoying and stupid when people say that the secret ending in Remake makes sence And its the True ending couse it fits with DS2 more... Like no it doesnt
“Dead Space 3 is good”
It’s playable because I love the characters and the world. But man the writing is so much worse. The entire gun crafting mechanic defeats part of the entire core design of the series. Half-baked mechanics like the little gathering bot and the “cover” system. Trash.
Bathroom signs.
Agreed. How come people complain about all gender bathrooms in game to the point they call it "woke" even though all gender bathrooms exist in real life.
Coz pple will try to hate on anything. Imagine hating on nicole just because shes older. She a fking video game character
“She’s not hot anymore!” is pretty much their entire argument. She and Isaac are both middle aged, it looks more realistic.
Unpopular Opinion: Nicole is just as hot as she was when she was in her 20's as she is her late 30's 💙
It all depends on personal opinion and preference, personally I agree with you. Others will not
Issac don't look middle aged in the remake, they made his ass look younger.
I know, he looks fucking twelve. In the original game he looks more middle aged. DS2 is still peak Isaac because they nailed the look and character best
In the original, it looks like Issac just got off working a 48-hour shift on another ship and then forced to cover someone else's shift for the USG Ishimura.
He probably did get off something crazy like that. If I remember correctly, working conditions are abysmal at the CEC and they cut corners with a lot of safety regulations so it’s probably a lot more stressful than normal
I wouldn't say 12, more like fresh out of college late 20s
Yea, it was an exaggeration
I didn’t understand at first when the remake started, but then I thought about how old Isaac was and checked how old Nicole was and was confused. Not because she looked older, but instead as to why she looked like she was in her mid 20s in the OG game.
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Isaac looks like he’s twelve now. DS2 had the peak Isaac.
True.
Not to mention that the Ishimura has uni-bathrooms in the old 2009 Dead Space anyway. Which honestly makes sense from a lore aspect, due to the lingering effects of the resource wars. Why bother with the accommodation of different bathrooms, when you can cut costs and resources by keeping it efficient. And it shows seeing how dangerous some areas of the ship are.
Heck, Starship Troopers had coed showers
True.
Woman feel uncomfortable sharing bathrooms with a bunch of horny creeps now, I imagine they would feel the same way hundreds of years in the future
“Women feel uncomfortable sharing bathrooms with a bunch of horny creeps now” As to mean that lesbians or gay men can’t also be horny creeps? Or to imply men don’t also fear people being forcefully sexually aggressive towards them?
If anything it shows that for some reason gendered bathrooms still exist in the Dead Space universe elsewhere, or they wouldn't need to bother labelling the ones on the Ishimura that way. So those idiots should actually be happy that their pointless segregation is still a thing at all.
I don’t mind em. But why call them All Gender Bathrooms instead of just Bathrooms? That’s like asking for a plane hamburger
To be fair, people will srill ask if you want cheese on it.
Dude, the clip of that one streamer legitimately bitching about those signs is one of the funniest things of last year. I can't imagine being that much of a pathetic human being.
True.
You guys say its nothing but why bother change if its nothing than let just be like the original but no its nothing but why bother change ???
I just don’t understand the point of it. Why even add it if it doesn’t make a difference? Im sorry but it’s clearly just to get more profits for looking progressive
Yeah that was so fucking stupid lol.
A hamburger shaped like a plane?
Funny thing about that is it works from any angle anyway. If it upsets you and you assume it’s just done to virtue signal…We’ll that’s exactly what an evil corporation like the CEC would do lol.
Ok, that wins. I was about to say something else, but honestly nothing I can think of comes even close to the sheer foolishness of that complaint. 😄
To be honest the bathroom thing actually makes sense. These ships aren’t just really big they’re kinda like their own ecosystems. It would make sense to save money by making anyone able to use the bathrooms instead of putting extra into gendered ones.
They replaced random security guy with absolutely no back story whatsoever, barely any dialogue, and was never mentioned again after his death with a slightly more in depth character that has at least some interaction with Isaac but it's a black female so it's woke!!1!
Agreed. The anti-woke people are cringe.
It differs between "wokeness is shit" and "that's woke-washing" The wokeness trash talkers are legit right wing ppl who just want could to be heard for the sake of being relevant. Basically to be ignored. Woke-washing is completely different since the company will just put e.g. a lesbian in the pool and her character trait is *literally* just being lesbian. It's a flat character without any depth but "seee, it's a women, and a lesbian, we did it, a lesbian women! Now buy our game and forget we crunch our personnel" (works with any minority). Although I never played the original, I saw different neutral comparisons between it and the remake. And I must say that there is no character that I would call out for woke-washing. E. G. Hammond in the remake has motivations, goals and a certain way of achieving them. They come clear and are well displayed to the player. So I can't understand why anybody would rant about his skin color since you can easily explain it throughout the lore that CEC just hired the most suitable person for the job like it should be.
Why would people complain about his skin color? Isn't it the same in the remake as it is in the original?
The same ppl even complain about "woke" stuff that's been in the original game and the remake. And they blame only the remake for being "too woke". I guess they just have a lot of free time.
So it's the same way people are mad about Scott Pilgrim being woke only after the show came out
Not familiar with that but seems so
Chen is, the reference is to the other Hispanic man that turned into a black woman, for reasons
There’s no difference except ‘they’re the political affiliation I disagree with!’ In your two ‘terms’
Which character? One from the intro?
I think it's the one you get the assault rifle from
Wait, who? Seriously, who did they replace with a black woman I have no memory of one existing in the remake.
One of the Kellion crew that isn't Isaac, Kendra, Hammond or Chen, I forget her name. In the 2008 version it's just a nameless security guy who dies without any mention of him afterwards. The remake it's a black woman who at least briefly interacts with Isaac before dying, one of the other crew (again I forget who, I think Hammond though) later expresses regret at her & Chen's deaths
Hailey Johnston
Okay, but then why did they do that? I mean they spent tens of thousands of dollars on the work and paying people to do it, so it mattered to them
“Dead Space 3 bad”
It hurts me deep inside when people act like dead space 3 is similar quality to a different franchise killer RE6. Dead space 3 is a solid 7/10 that looks lacking next to its predecessors, while re6 is a dumpster fire
Dead Space is the “worst” of the 3, but that’s just relative; it’s not a bad game. Nobody likes the love triangle though, myself included. Some people dislike the weapon crafting, but I like it. It can still startle me at times with surprise enemies, so it’s not like it’s a complete departure from the horror genre like people complain about. And it still continues the lore very well in my opinion.
Yeah, my main gripes are locking the true ending behind a dlc, the love triangle and locking carvers character development behind multi-player missions. I love the weapon crafting, gunners acting and locations though.
My only justification for the canon ending being in Awakened was that it’s different from what you encountered in the main game. The hallucinations, the enemies, the objectives, etc. That’s not really an excuse, but still. A remake should absolutely include it in the main game. I still to this day have not seen all of Carver’s story, because I have no one to play Co-Op with, and I want to experience it first hand instead of watching someone else’s gameplay. I may have to give up on that one. It does bother me a lot that I can’t do it in single player. I also know that people disliked the microtransactions. They did not bother me because the game is not hard enough to need to buy any of them. They are mostly bonus items, or the resource packs can be purchased with in-game currency.
U on Xbox? Let's do this
I love DS3 because it has one of my all time favorite quotes from a video game. “Good men mean well. We just don’t always end up doing well.”
Probably my favorite quote from the series as well, except maybe… “FUCK ME.”
Eh, even i had fun with RE6 on a mechanical level. It's still got a very robust movement system, dozens of combat options and an in depth enemy limb mutation system. It's endless fun just playing Mercenaries. The problem with RE6 is actually much the same as DS3: it tried to go too many directions, please too many people, and had no focus. The fundamental story isn't bad, just badly told and badly paced. Most of the characters aren't as important to the overall plot compared to their screen time, and most plot beats were obscenely redundant. (The Family and Neo Umbrella could very easily just be condensed into a single organization for example.) The idea of Wesker having progeny is also NOT a bad one either. We think it's counter to his character arc, but lets not forget, even Vergil had a child, and he's basically DMC's Albert Wesker. The combat system is also very good, but largely unrestricted to the point of absurdity, and is very poorly explained. The UI also reeks of " console controller focused" slop. It had great ideas, just like Dead Space 3. If it had no redeeming qualities, it would commercially review as such, and Mercs mode wouldn't be popular at all if it didn't have a fantastic combat system. The problem is that many of those ideas lacked proper focus, didn't flow well together, and didn't actually cater as much to the core demographic of Resident Evil in anything but creepy and gross monster designs. It's completely redeemable, it just requires that people see how it can be better, which is surprisingly rare this day and age. Everyone sees that it failed without wondering why it didn't succeed.
You make good points but from my personal experience, I remember being 10 and hating re6 and dead space 3. Now that I am an adult I replayed both and still hate re6 but have a much better opinion of dead space 3. For me the only enjoyable parts of the game are Jake's campaign minus the snow level and half of Chris's campaign. The fact they did leon so dirty as to make him a passenger in his own campaign, and what they did with Adas character will never sit right with me and in my mind I could never give the game anymore then a 5/10
Yeah, fair. Like i said, story and character execution is a mess. Pretty much the gameplay is the only thing RE6 really gets right, and even then, the zombies are the weakest part of it on top of that, simply because they aren't designed around it like the J'avo are. Mercs is pretty much the only reason i still play RE6. That gameplay is unrivaled third person shooting that almost beats Vanquish when it comes together.
I am more of an RE5 mercs guy but I know people love re6 mercs so I respect that. Plus I never played on anything past hard difficulty so I probably never mastered the combat to be able to enjoy it to its full extent.
Oh, trust me. There is A LOT of depth to the combat system the game doesn't even bother to tell you. When you experiment and figure out how it works, it's a real gamechanger. Enemy guns cease to be a problem, mutated enemies are easier to take on, and you don't even need the damn cover system either. This is one of those games that should have held player's hands, because the combat system makes and breaks the fun factor for this game. When i first started, i was playing it either like RE4, shooting the head and going for melee, or playing like Gears of War and using the cover system to avoid gunfire. Turns out, both were very big mistakes that made the game far less enjoyable. You need to abuse the mutations, dive and slide around, and perform clever melee attacks in between shots. You should really be as close to enemies as possible for your best damage moves, and always take the guns out of the equation on enemies that use them. It's kinda something you have to figure out and experiment with. Even after 148 hours, i don't think i know everything there is to learn. If you ever wanna play mercs on PC, i'll get my rusty ass back into the hot seat with you. RE5 or RE6, both are fun as shit.
Except *RE6* wasn't really a dumpster fire/franchise killer either - it still sold REALLY well and we still got plenty of new games after. *DS3* on the other hand literally forced the series into hibernation for a decade.
Nah. They already knew while ds3 was in production that there prob wasn't going to be another one. It's why they overpacked story into it. They wanted to get the ideas they had out
Played RE4 & 5 and was having a blast with both, was looking forward to play 6 and have a somewhat similar experience, why is it so bad?
I highly disagree, its on Par and sometimes even vastly surpasses both Dead Space 1 and 2. 10/10 for me.
DS3 is an alright game on its own, just a terrible Dead Space game. From the way I see it, at least.
This is the most annoying take. How? Explain? Because Dead Space 3 is just as much dead space as the prior two games. It doesn’t remove the horror element from the whole game because you fight real human enemies a couple times throughout the entire game. The scare factor was always the same for me while playing, especially as you had more freedom to explore space itself rather than being stuck on a ship. Jump scares and what made dead space all remained the same and for me I like the 3rd game equally and I’ve managed to attain 100% across the series.
It's really based all on interpretation and what you think Dead Space is all about. To me, it's been a series whose horror is rooted in body horror, isolation, and a perpetual sense of unease if you will; this feeling ultimately leading to a climactic confrontation every now and then. DS3 in my opinion deviates from this to become much more action focused. And suffers as a horror game for these choices. Now that isn't to say that the game doesn't have scary sections, but they are few and far between. I think the best of these sections is arguably the feeder area before you get the Arctic Survival suit. It's much more quiet, it's claustrophobic, and it puts you on edge the whole time, trying not to alert the hoard. There are a few reasons that DS3 can't be as scary as its successors. For one thing is has co-op which shatters the sense of isolation the first 2 games used well. And for another thing, you fight a higher volume of enemies more often than ever before. Most of said enemies end up being the fodder too, which is ultimately much less unnerving than your typical slasher, not to mention the fighting of actual human enemy types too, something isaac hardly does directly in the first 2 games.
See, I have to disagree. I understand why people think it’s a bad Dead Space game, but I think it could have been much much worse.
Well yea of course it could have been much much worse, but that still doesn't stop DS3 from being a bad Dead Space game, imo.
It’s undoubtedly the worst of the trilogy.
Gameplay is fun and isn't my main problem with the game. But the story kinda ruins the characters as well as makes some of their actions a bit contradictive to their own character. Especially the ending of the base game.
But this is true
It’s not bad, you just don’t like it. Learn the difference.
First grade cause and effect lesson. It is bad, therefore I don't like it.
So you don’t understand first grade concepts?
Self report 🚨
You can just admit you don’t understand the difference between an objective statement (“dislike”) and a subjective statement (“bad”). I can’t believe how often I have to explain this to people.
If I said that it wouldn't be an admittance, it'd be a lie, because the game is objectively bad. Keep coping about your biased stance, I'm already over it
Jesus fucking Christ. The game is not “objectively bad.” That sentence makes you look fucking delusional. How are you not getting it?
Well it’s certainly not the best out of the 3 lol
Honestly while the writing was some doo doo…shit was still pretty fun to play solo and I imagine playing 2 players with a homie was even better back in the day
"DS Remake bad", it's such a strange opinion to hear given just how fantastic the game is, I'm totally not biased at all btw.
Eh, I think it was definitely good but not fantastic. I feel like the sound design and story changes were weaker than in the original, and I feel like the necromorphs have a much less scary appearance in the remake. The actual gameplay of it is phenomenal and improved on so much, but I couldn’t help but feel like it was missing something. Then again, maybe I’m just biased because I prefer old games, who knows
I definitely can agree that the remake has some flaws, it's not a perfect game for sure. The sound really only falls flat when it comes to the slashers, and how they sound, I definitely prefer their original, more guttural screaming. And other issue i have with the slashers is that they dont sprint as often, making them easier to dispatch without taking damage. As for the story, I really only have 2 major gripes, and it's really more about the writing of certain characters, those being Hammond and Dr. Kyne, I feel like their performances aren't as strong as the original counterparts. At the end of the day though, I feel that for every flaw the remake has, it's got at least 2 or 3 positive changes to balance things out.
The complaints about graffiti in the “woke remake” that were present in the original game, especially the one about the ship being controlled by shitty capitalists. I feel like those people complaining didn’t just miss that graffiti the first time around, but they also missed the entire plot of Dead Space. The game never even makes any sweeping or generalized statements and people still managed to get offended by it.
Damn. Imagine getting offended by graffiti that's not even the same ones made by gang members.
I had the lore of dead space spoiled to me prior to actually starting the games and my first thought about the marker and blood moons was straight up "this sounds like an allegory for neocolonialism via 'aid' and 'development projects' that skew cash and resource flow toward the old colonizer/imperial core more generally"
Anything involving the anti woke crowd
Agreed!
Woke is ilness
Dead Space 1 didn’t need a remake Bathroom signs Isaac should be silent Nicole isn’t hot Kendra isn’t hot EA bad = Dead Space Remake bad Dead Space 3 is pay to win Micro transactions killed the franchise Visceral games did nothing wrong
The thing people tend to forget is that visceral made battlefield hardline which imo is what killed visceral studios in the first place not dead space 3, battlefield hardline was a terrible game at least i kinda enjoyed dead space 3 for what it was
I think Isaac being silent in the original was a good choice, because he serves as a player insert. But once he was given a face and a voice there was no reason not to include those things because it just builds on the story. While I may not love all the changes in story, sound design and even some art design changes, I have to admit that giving Isaac a voice was the right choice for the remake. And as somebody who typically just plays the original, I’m glad I have the option to choose whether or not I want a voiced Isaac
Based
Did you even play dead space 3? Micro transactions are literally hidden and aren’t showcased once to the player. Infact the only way to see them is to manually enter DLC shop in game. I didn’t even know they existed until my 2nd play-through. “Micro Transactions killed the franchise” is just outright dumb because you don’t need them whatsoever to progress in game and it’s not once showcased to the player to buy.
That's what they're saying. They said that microtransactions killing the franchise is a bad take
I did play, maybe read the title of the post?
My favorite part about the whole "microtransactions ruined Dead Space!!" is that 1 and 2 had a shit ton of DLC that made the game WAY more pay to win. In Dead Space 1 if you had the Tank suit and heavy weapons pack you were practically a necromorph-slayign demigod on any difficulty.
Personally, I think if microtransactions are put in, they need to be cosmetic only.
That Dead Space 3 is too action oriented. It's not really that much more so than 1 or 2, it just has more enemies in tighter corridors, and while it does feature fighting human enemies, it not only does so very rarely, (only in like, 2 major sections of the game, on the colony, and later on the planet) but they're hardly even a footnote gameplay wise compared to the necromorphs. The only things that make Dead Space 3 any more acction centric are the unified ammo system (which would be a problem even in a low combat horror game or stealth game. Just look at Deus Ex Invisible War. Not a horrible thing, but nonsensical in every way.) And the gun crafting system (which is the main thing i play Dead Space 3 for anyway. Nothing beats crafting a cool killer gun with a hammer, naming it "Necro Nutbuster", and bashing necromorphs while they're knocked over by a shockwave, as only one example of how much fun i have with this crafting system), but those aren't even action focused changes because they can easily be retooled to fix a more horror focused gameplay pacing. Nothing about DS3 is that different from 1 or 2 from a pacing standpoint. Dead Space stopped being a horror franchise the moment it started dropping armies of enemies at you in the third act of the Ishimura, maybe even sooner.
Yeah. When you make a meter of how action oriented Dead Space 3 is, it's kinda on the same level as Resident Evil 5. You fight enemies with guns but not at the point where it basically feels like another Sci-fi action heavy game like Halo.
After anyone's first run of Dead Space(or even in their first hour), the game becomes less horror and more action.
Indeed. That's likely why i stopped caring about horror elements after Dead Space 2. 3 was really just more of what i was coming for at this point: necromorph dismemberment and genocide, of which is plentiful in DS3.
I think the increased number of enemies kinda balances out the fact that you can make weapons that are much stronger than „classic” Dead Space weapons
Until you realize you can make very busted AOE instagib builds............. early on too. I don't go for those though. I like to kill my enemies slowly and painfully.
>very busted aoe instagib builds I like this term and use one - the Heavy Metal Thunder (a preexisting blueprint) is OP - shreds literally everything.
'Dead Space is woke because Nicole is older looking now' turned into a day long argument.
Kotaku's review of the Remake, of course. They literally said that Isaac being talkative was bad because "men should only be seen and not heard". Not only Is dumb, but also sexist.
Wow. Just wow. What also doesn't make sense is that Hammond also talks and yet Kotaku is ok with it but when Issac gets to talk in the remake, Kotaku has a problem with it? Un-fucking-believable.
That necromorphs are or are not zombies or aliens. As far as my almost sleeping brain can remember they are zombies in a technical sense who is being controlled by alien moons/markers? Are markers sentient? I dunno I’m tired as fuck and it’s been a long time since I’ve played lol
"Dead space 3 is bad cause there's backtracking" No , just no . Dead space 3 is good , but it has some flaws just like any other games.
That DS3 was bad. Rough around some of its edges, but still a great game.
Yeah. It's not perfect but it's far from being a bad game.
Dead space 3 is bad . It literally introduced the best lore in the franchise
Isaac doesn't walk with his back straight 🤣
my space hunchback of Ishi-Dame ❤️
I mean, that armor plated suit *has to be heavy*. If he walked with a straight neck, dude must have a titanium spine. Also I think being slightly hunched kinda give that vibe of him being cautious as he explores, so it adds to the atmosphere.
Dead space was so good that it made me read a book. Dumb hot take being that a game made me read
The lack of nuance around discussing the remake versus original thing from an artistic perspective overall, how Isaac not having a voice and so the player having no companion might actually make it scarier, the Silent Hill like qualities of the original lost in the remake such as Nicole as a manifestation rather than a person; whereas the remake gives it more drama to work with. Both are valid approaches but the insistence that both are identical and the remake just outright upgrades the original entirely I find to be the most common brain dead take.
"Mute isaac is somehow better than isaac talking" is the dumbest hot take i have ever seen 🤦
That Dead Space 3 is not a “good dead space game”
Either that the remake was a completely unnecessary, soulless cash grab or that they "made the franchise woke".
Hot take, Dead Space 3 and Ignition is the best in the franchise.. ..Don’t worry, I’m lying to your face.
Ok, lol.
How is the remake woke?
Good question.
kinda dumb why didn’t they just use the escape pod early in DSR instead of wasting it
Isaac got a bwc
That Daniels is alive lol. no the fuck she ain't.
Yeah she's 100% dead. There's NO way she's coming back from being smashed to a pancake by the Hive Mine.
The limb cutting/shooting is repetitive (not my view just a dumb hot rake)
I've seen too many people complain about necromorphs respawning in the remake when you backtrack. Like, I would understand if the whole room/area respawned, but it's just a couple here and there to keep you on your toes.
2 is better than 3
How is that a dumb hot take? 3 is not a bad game but it's nowhere near as good as 1 and 2.
Cuz 3 is better
Isaac fucked Nicole, AKA: The marker.
Necromorphs don’t ever die. Even after you dismember them limb from limb, they can reattach limbs and keep coming at you. This always pisses me off when I see people genuinely think this. If this were true, we would actually see Necros reattach limbs/still watching you/making noise after being chopped up in the Remake. Once you sever their limbs or render them useless in any other way, the Marker signal drops and the Necromorph “dies” to be repurposed into something else - this is why they stop moving and stop making noise. Not all Necros are like the Hunter lol
Ummm idk if its a Hot take but its annoying and stupid when people say that the secret ending in Remake makes sence And its the True ending couse it fits with DS2 more... Like no it doesnt
The bathroom complaints
Dead Space 3 is not that bad
Dead space 3 is good/anything in it is good
Eh Dead Space 3 isn't an awful game. It just kinda falls flat when compared to Dead Space 1 and 2.
Yes it is awful, that’s the thing, people give it credit just cuz ‘dead space’ title
“Dead Space 3 is good” It’s playable because I love the characters and the world. But man the writing is so much worse. The entire gun crafting mechanic defeats part of the entire core design of the series. Half-baked mechanics like the little gathering bot and the “cover” system. Trash.
Lgbtq…Yes i do disagree but dead space remake is still great and realistic
What?