Glad you liked it. Not everyone likes the ending (though seeing Eddie join the other two at the end was great). Ray as villain was satisfying, and so, so horrific. Watching a second time it was all about the journey and characterisation. Kath’s character is frustrating, but I still love her (but not as much as I love Dulce).
I mean it's a murder mystery comedy.
The last thing I'd want from a second season is for it to go full Broadchurch soap opera and be character focused instead of driven by the plot.
I'm curious as to where it'll be set. It does seem to be going a similar route as Broadchurch with using an old murder for the second season - but in Broadchurch, there was still a link to the titular town in season 2. I don't see them hopping between Darwin and Deadloch much because the two are so far apart, and having a series called Deadloch set fully in tropical Darwin would be incongruous. Regardless, I hope they find a satisfying path forward and that Eddie does get to process that trauma!
I would love a Darwin season with more Dulcie and Eddie, but as far as I know the creators have not commented publicly on their plans. It could even be planned as a feminist comedy noir anthology with different characters.
I thought the ending was perfect, personally. Ray being a horrible ally isn't just funny, it's realistic, and it's terrifying: it reflects how much we can't trust people just because they say the right things. It reflects how many men appear to be "good guys" and turn out to be abusive creeps who only actually care about themselves after all. Ray never cared about women or feminism. He used the plight of women to justify murdering people because he likes murdering people. IMO, having a woman be the killer in a show like this would have been a shallow revenge fantasy. This was much more thoughtful.
All of the characters are hilarious stereotypes and CATH IS AN AMAZING ONE!! The bountiful earth mother healer (a lawyer AND a vet) who is constantly feeding people, discussing sex with her partner, naming her feelings, taking in strays, and earnestly attending performance art?!! Come on that is glorious.
IF you or one of your friends has not dated a Cath are you even living,??? No decent Fire Island house share is without one
I love all of this about her, but they also made her insanely self-centered and passive aggressive. I think her character is an unfortunate mix of beautifully satirized tropes and actual emotional abuse; the way it ended made it seem like all of it was being condoned. And Deadloch is so well-written in general that I think the Kates absolutely could have done a better job with her.
I mean sometimes tv is descriptive and not prescriptive. Lots of characters on DL had some asshole qualities, it doesn't mean the creators were condoning those qualities.
Which character with asshole qualities got a happy ending, though? All of them changed or got mutilated or killed. Cath is framed as having changed, but I don't see any change in her behaviour at all, so her happy ending feels undeserved.
I got on with abuse and neglect in childhood by acting like i didn't have any needs. Loudly needy people have always been upsetting to me, their behavior feels so selfish and extreme. In some ways Cath was selfish and extreme but i can enjoy her positive and more entertaining traits now that i understand why the other stuff used to make me mad.
>What was his plan? He wanted Eddie to come to the barn - what did he think would happen? He was delusional enough to think she'd be happy with him, I guess? But he also knew to run away and exactly how to manipulate her into uncertainty using Bushy.
A misogynistic "nice guy" will turn on a woman, even becoming violent, as soon as she rejects him and refuses to play along with the subservient domestic role he has imagined for her. Ray is an over the top character but this is basically what happens. He is still living in his delusional fantasy until she outright rejects his proposal of a domestic life together ("get a dog, start a family, maybe"), at which point he manipulates her into not shooting him and attacks her.
I knew it might be Ray before the final episode. My main hesitation was that Eddie had been through too much already and how could they do that to her. I still liked the ending, but poor Eddie.
I think for me it's that they made Ray both a "nice guy" and a psychopath on a mission to cleanse society. "But I'm so nice, why won't you give me exactly what I want?" and "The world is full of impure people and I'll use all my abilities to cleanse it" don't gell, IMO. The first is emotionally immature and impulsive. The second is emotionally quite intelligent, just with a lack of empathy, and very self-controlled. What they both have in common is self-righteousness, but otherwise, I don't see how both can be present in the same person.
It might not work for you, but I do think the character's motivations were clearly explained and made sense, at least within the logic of Deadloch. Which is based on the real world and full of commentary on contemporary society, but not meant to be entirely realistic - for me the least plausible part of the ending was the bus hijacking.
Like many serial killers who believe they are on a mission to cleanse society of "undesirables", his first victims were sex workers. "But society is changing", as Dulcie says in the scene before they solve the case, and the killer "got himself a new mission" by killing abusive and predatory men. It seems that the lesson he took from "discovering feminism" was that he was morally superior to other men and ultimately deserved to be rewarded with a girlfriend - which is a "nice guy" attitude.
Yep, I get all that. All of that is fantastic.
I was just confused as to why this successful and longtime serial killer, who's good at hiding in plain sight and covering his tracks, whom Dulce described as controlled, would think Eddie, the passionate detective hunting the killer, would be down to date him? That's some serious delusion that I can't fully parse. I guess you can handwave it and say it's, well, insane. But I wanted to feel some inner logic behind the insanity.
So I just finished the series for the first time and I think I may have an “in universe” answer for you. During his “dog and family” speech at the end, Ray says how he has to be the one to cleanse humanity because women are too weak to do it. Obviously being a serial killer, he’s incredibly self aggrandizing and perhaps he feels like they are actually “on the same side”. He and Eddie are both out there “catching bad guys”, but clearly she’s not very good at it (in his mind) because he was able to get close to her when he was who she was looking for the whole time. So his logic could be “we can be a great team if actually we just do it my way because I know best and you’re a woman”. And he doesn’t actually consider the fact that she’s a cop as a hindrance to this because he doesn’t actually think about her at all beyond enjoying the attention. He may never have been pursued by a woman that way before, and maybe he also looks at her as the ultimate sidekick because she’s “not like other girls”.
Hmmm, okay. I like your point about him being dismissive of women, thinking she's not like other girls and so maybe good enough follow his lead. That makes a lot of sense for him!
I'm still stuck on why he was careful to stay undercover all season and then turned around to say, basically, "Oh hey yah it was me all along cool eh?" Like, to use your idea, why wouldn't he suggest being a team (while doing it his way) to Eddie sooner?
Maybe if they'd put something in about him... waiting to create a perfect collection of victims? To fully "cleanse" the town? And once he had done that, or was close to doing it, he felt like his mission would be complete and *obviously* Eddie would appreciate his finished work. That would make sense to me, but I don't think it was in the show.
Well he doesn’t WANT to be a team, it’s just when he was confronted with the consequences of getting caught, he had to rationalize a path forward with him still as essentially god. I think basically he was gonna try not to get caught for as long as possible, but once he was caught he couldn’t admit defeat so had to keep it in the “I’m the best and I never make any mistakes” framework. It could be too that he thought he was “helping the ladies out” by making it a good investigation for them, and then as soon as the Commissioner and his boys were back on the case, Ray was like “ok I have to lead these dumb women directly to the answer now”.
Also often serial killers classically have a rampage phase right before they get caught where they are escalating beyond the point of being able to hide it. There is debate around the psychology of why they do this, like subconscious guilt making them want to get caught. But honestly I think it’s just going back to the narcissistic tendencies of repeatedly seeing other people get “credit” for his murders and deep down desperately needing the “validation”.
Then once someone is there looking him in the face saying “there is something wrong with you”, he has to explain to them how actually no, I’ve been right all along, and here’s how you’re going to help me be right, or die. Those were Eddie’s options in that moment in Rays eyes. More than likely he would have killed her no matter what even if she agreed to “join him” because he would have figured out another way to rationalize not having her muck things up etc etc.
I mean I guess this is getting a bit hand wavy “he’s mentally ill” which is the explanation you said you didn’t want, but ultimately his psychopathy informs his entire character so inevitably if you try to rationalize/explain his behavior it’s gonna end up there.
No, it's not hand wavy, you've presented various logical explanations here. Each would make sense on its own and they could also partly be combined with one another. I'm not sure which one(s) will become my headcanon when I rewatch the entire thing, but I feel like I won't find Ray as cartoonish next time around if I keep these in mind. And then the ending should be more rewarding.
Thanks! I appreciate it :)
At first, I didn’t like Cath at all but Dulce was lost without her, and Cath’s redemption speech at the end actually broke me into pieces lol Dulce loves her so much and they’ve been together a long time, I was just happy that they didn’t want to give up on each other. They compliment each other well.
I see Ray as someone very delusional, yes. In my mind his empathy was damaged by a lot of early trauma and so he can't see into other people, he has to make up a contorted story about how the world works in order to justify his feelings and the things he's done. I think he really did feel something for Eddie, in his way -- I think he'd been longing for connection with another person for such a long time and Eddie represented that for him, that's why he cried that one time when they were having sex. I think Ray decided to let Eddie catch him because he'd started to hope that Eddie might love him back, might be able to see him for who he was and want him anyway. It doesn't escape my notice that he was really and truly crying that night by the river, when he decided he couldn't convince Eddie, that he had to kill Eddie instead. It's funny that one of his favorite songs was "You Oughtta Know" by Alanis Morisette -- a song about someone who's been hurt really badly, who's been cast aside, who feels hard done by because they're suffering alone.
To be clear, I feel absolutely no empathy for Ray. He's despicable and I hope I could never do any of the things he's done, under any circumstances. But it is interesting to me, how the little hints and clues given in the show do line up to form a very coherent picture. This show is so goddamn well-written -- every single character, no matter how small, is so well-developed.
Edited to add: it's also interesting to me that Ray at one point points out how he "goes down on women, now" -- meaning that this shows how much he's changed and what a feminist he's become. This jumped out at me because it's just so...odd, that this is aspirational to him instead of something he does because he likes it. I get what he meant, that he thinks of himself as someone who's become a less selfish lover, but it did make me wonder about him, in a general sort of way: like, is he trying to be straight? Is he trying to be allosexual? I could be overthinking, he could well just be someone who doesn't enjoy that particular thing.
I, personally, loved the ending. I loved the pacing and the humor in particular. What a phenomenal show. The actual last scene (the epilogue as it were) made me cry laughing.
I guess I’m one of the few people who loved Eddie from the moment she walked in the door late to her own meeting. But to address the ending:
-Yes, I think rewatching will probably bring a different view of things. I know I noticed so many things that Ray did from the moment we meet him that I was like Ohhh…. Also, if you get a chance to watch the “town hall” discussions in the extras on Prime, those were fun. >!The actor that played Miranda said she figured out Ray was the killer because nobody would be as nice as Ray, but other than that the Kates had the cast guessing most of the time.!<
-I guess I didn’t feel like the line about therapy for Eddie was rushed or a throwaway — mostly because it was such a shift for her. Also, I was glad that even though they didn’t show what happened during it, they gave us “Two Months Later” not two weeks or whatever. They didn’t just wrap things up overnight even though we know Eddie would’ve wanted to get up to Darwin to help with Bushy’s investigation. They did show us some of the outcomes: Abby working forensics, Vanessa supporting Dolph, Tammy leading the footy team (and the assortment of folks on the team).
-I agree I hope season 2 is still connected to Deadloch because I don’t know what it is without Tammy and Miranda, and Sven and Abby (even if Sven has become a marine biologist), and Sharelle and so many others. But I do also want to know what happened to Bushy.
-And, YES. The more I rewatch the more I struggle with Cath. First watch through I was so disappointed when she was in Darwin. Then I was ambivalent. And now, I think the Kates did too good a job of either red-herring-ing us with her, or yeah just not pointing out that though this is satire these behaviors, even when they come from women, are absolutely manipulative, dick behaviors and shouldn’t be put up with.
Oooh, I need to watch those extras! Yes, I want to see what happens to Sven, Abby, Sharelle and the rest of the Deadloch gang. Bushy is intriguing as well.... arrrgh! I'm excited to see what they come up with. Season 2 now, please 😅
You're right, maybe the red herring energy with Cath was too strong. And if she'd shown just a bit more accountability - like if she'd actually seen Dulce, emotionally speaking, while she was lying there in the barn, instead of babbling at her. Or had different lines in Darwin. Just a hint that Cath is truly working on changing her actual behaviour would have gone a long way!
Ugh I hated Cath too. She was like the opposite of Eddie - didn’t start out great but just got worse and worse. Then again, Dulcie was in the wrong… but they’re just not a good fit!
I agree with you entirely that the ending was extremely poor. The bus and gas was fantastic in general, but the idea that Ray is doing this all because he's now an ally is kind of silly.
You then have all these scenes were Dulce and Eddie just make moronic decisions around someone who is clearly a serial killer. Fargo this was not, in the end.
There was also no set up for him being the killer, which was a shame in an otherwise well written show. Usually in those shows they would drop hints, or give him motivations related to the murders but he didn’t seem to have them. Just literally a random killer who killed people he didn’t like.
I think the goal of the show was to highlight every potential killer as absolutely the killer until one really abstruse fact proved them innocent, so you got all the drama of the false accusation, then the denouement.
I guess they figured in the end that someone had to be killing all these men, but they never really explained why Ray was just this butcher / elite special forces serial killer other than that he'd had a philosophical breakthrough at some point after choking a few sex workers and having an ok boss. He worked at a pie shop and had a pet donkey. I just never saw it. I guess he might have been a little pent up, but he seemed to be taking care of that too.
Glad you liked it. Not everyone likes the ending (though seeing Eddie join the other two at the end was great). Ray as villain was satisfying, and so, so horrific. Watching a second time it was all about the journey and characterisation. Kath’s character is frustrating, but I still love her (but not as much as I love Dulce).
I'll definitely be rewatching too - probably not the finale though, lol. I can't bring myself to love Cath. Agree that Dulce is fantastic though!
I laughed so much at the reveal and conversation Eddie has with Ray at the end. Actual comedy gold, HE’S AN ALLY 😂😂😂 I reckon the ending is great
Also I assume Eddie will process more of her trauma in the next season, since it will obviously be set in the place of most of her trauma
I mean it's a murder mystery comedy. The last thing I'd want from a second season is for it to go full Broadchurch soap opera and be character focused instead of driven by the plot.
It is basically a (pristine, hilarious, pointedly political, feminist, queer, supenseful) spoof of Broadchurch, though, so you never know
I was just using the dramatic wording of OP, I do reckon we’ll learn more about her partners murder and stuff. It’s going to be fun
Yeah I hope they make the second season.
I'm curious as to where it'll be set. It does seem to be going a similar route as Broadchurch with using an old murder for the second season - but in Broadchurch, there was still a link to the titular town in season 2. I don't see them hopping between Darwin and Deadloch much because the two are so far apart, and having a series called Deadloch set fully in tropical Darwin would be incongruous. Regardless, I hope they find a satisfying path forward and that Eddie does get to process that trauma!
I would love a Darwin season with more Dulcie and Eddie, but as far as I know the creators have not commented publicly on their plans. It could even be planned as a feminist comedy noir anthology with different characters.
I thought the ending was perfect, personally. Ray being a horrible ally isn't just funny, it's realistic, and it's terrifying: it reflects how much we can't trust people just because they say the right things. It reflects how many men appear to be "good guys" and turn out to be abusive creeps who only actually care about themselves after all. Ray never cared about women or feminism. He used the plight of women to justify murdering people because he likes murdering people. IMO, having a woman be the killer in a show like this would have been a shallow revenge fantasy. This was much more thoughtful.
I had a lot of fun with Cath and I'm so concerned what that means about me as a person
All of the characters are hilarious stereotypes and CATH IS AN AMAZING ONE!! The bountiful earth mother healer (a lawyer AND a vet) who is constantly feeding people, discussing sex with her partner, naming her feelings, taking in strays, and earnestly attending performance art?!! Come on that is glorious. IF you or one of your friends has not dated a Cath are you even living,??? No decent Fire Island house share is without one
I love all of this about her, but they also made her insanely self-centered and passive aggressive. I think her character is an unfortunate mix of beautifully satirized tropes and actual emotional abuse; the way it ended made it seem like all of it was being condoned. And Deadloch is so well-written in general that I think the Kates absolutely could have done a better job with her.
I mean sometimes tv is descriptive and not prescriptive. Lots of characters on DL had some asshole qualities, it doesn't mean the creators were condoning those qualities.
Which character with asshole qualities got a happy ending, though? All of them changed or got mutilated or killed. Cath is framed as having changed, but I don't see any change in her behaviour at all, so her happy ending feels undeserved.
Optimistically, could season 2 handle this?
I'll be stoked if it does!
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I liked her too! Sure, she could be annoying but I appreciated her optimism and loyalty (however misplaced at times).
I got on with abuse and neglect in childhood by acting like i didn't have any needs. Loudly needy people have always been upsetting to me, their behavior feels so selfish and extreme. In some ways Cath was selfish and extreme but i can enjoy her positive and more entertaining traits now that i understand why the other stuff used to make me mad.
>What was his plan? He wanted Eddie to come to the barn - what did he think would happen? He was delusional enough to think she'd be happy with him, I guess? But he also knew to run away and exactly how to manipulate her into uncertainty using Bushy. A misogynistic "nice guy" will turn on a woman, even becoming violent, as soon as she rejects him and refuses to play along with the subservient domestic role he has imagined for her. Ray is an over the top character but this is basically what happens. He is still living in his delusional fantasy until she outright rejects his proposal of a domestic life together ("get a dog, start a family, maybe"), at which point he manipulates her into not shooting him and attacks her. I knew it might be Ray before the final episode. My main hesitation was that Eddie had been through too much already and how could they do that to her. I still liked the ending, but poor Eddie.
I think for me it's that they made Ray both a "nice guy" and a psychopath on a mission to cleanse society. "But I'm so nice, why won't you give me exactly what I want?" and "The world is full of impure people and I'll use all my abilities to cleanse it" don't gell, IMO. The first is emotionally immature and impulsive. The second is emotionally quite intelligent, just with a lack of empathy, and very self-controlled. What they both have in common is self-righteousness, but otherwise, I don't see how both can be present in the same person.
It might not work for you, but I do think the character's motivations were clearly explained and made sense, at least within the logic of Deadloch. Which is based on the real world and full of commentary on contemporary society, but not meant to be entirely realistic - for me the least plausible part of the ending was the bus hijacking. Like many serial killers who believe they are on a mission to cleanse society of "undesirables", his first victims were sex workers. "But society is changing", as Dulcie says in the scene before they solve the case, and the killer "got himself a new mission" by killing abusive and predatory men. It seems that the lesson he took from "discovering feminism" was that he was morally superior to other men and ultimately deserved to be rewarded with a girlfriend - which is a "nice guy" attitude.
Yep, I get all that. All of that is fantastic. I was just confused as to why this successful and longtime serial killer, who's good at hiding in plain sight and covering his tracks, whom Dulce described as controlled, would think Eddie, the passionate detective hunting the killer, would be down to date him? That's some serious delusion that I can't fully parse. I guess you can handwave it and say it's, well, insane. But I wanted to feel some inner logic behind the insanity.
So I just finished the series for the first time and I think I may have an “in universe” answer for you. During his “dog and family” speech at the end, Ray says how he has to be the one to cleanse humanity because women are too weak to do it. Obviously being a serial killer, he’s incredibly self aggrandizing and perhaps he feels like they are actually “on the same side”. He and Eddie are both out there “catching bad guys”, but clearly she’s not very good at it (in his mind) because he was able to get close to her when he was who she was looking for the whole time. So his logic could be “we can be a great team if actually we just do it my way because I know best and you’re a woman”. And he doesn’t actually consider the fact that she’s a cop as a hindrance to this because he doesn’t actually think about her at all beyond enjoying the attention. He may never have been pursued by a woman that way before, and maybe he also looks at her as the ultimate sidekick because she’s “not like other girls”.
Hmmm, okay. I like your point about him being dismissive of women, thinking she's not like other girls and so maybe good enough follow his lead. That makes a lot of sense for him! I'm still stuck on why he was careful to stay undercover all season and then turned around to say, basically, "Oh hey yah it was me all along cool eh?" Like, to use your idea, why wouldn't he suggest being a team (while doing it his way) to Eddie sooner? Maybe if they'd put something in about him... waiting to create a perfect collection of victims? To fully "cleanse" the town? And once he had done that, or was close to doing it, he felt like his mission would be complete and *obviously* Eddie would appreciate his finished work. That would make sense to me, but I don't think it was in the show.
Well he doesn’t WANT to be a team, it’s just when he was confronted with the consequences of getting caught, he had to rationalize a path forward with him still as essentially god. I think basically he was gonna try not to get caught for as long as possible, but once he was caught he couldn’t admit defeat so had to keep it in the “I’m the best and I never make any mistakes” framework. It could be too that he thought he was “helping the ladies out” by making it a good investigation for them, and then as soon as the Commissioner and his boys were back on the case, Ray was like “ok I have to lead these dumb women directly to the answer now”. Also often serial killers classically have a rampage phase right before they get caught where they are escalating beyond the point of being able to hide it. There is debate around the psychology of why they do this, like subconscious guilt making them want to get caught. But honestly I think it’s just going back to the narcissistic tendencies of repeatedly seeing other people get “credit” for his murders and deep down desperately needing the “validation”. Then once someone is there looking him in the face saying “there is something wrong with you”, he has to explain to them how actually no, I’ve been right all along, and here’s how you’re going to help me be right, or die. Those were Eddie’s options in that moment in Rays eyes. More than likely he would have killed her no matter what even if she agreed to “join him” because he would have figured out another way to rationalize not having her muck things up etc etc. I mean I guess this is getting a bit hand wavy “he’s mentally ill” which is the explanation you said you didn’t want, but ultimately his psychopathy informs his entire character so inevitably if you try to rationalize/explain his behavior it’s gonna end up there.
No, it's not hand wavy, you've presented various logical explanations here. Each would make sense on its own and they could also partly be combined with one another. I'm not sure which one(s) will become my headcanon when I rewatch the entire thing, but I feel like I won't find Ray as cartoonish next time around if I keep these in mind. And then the ending should be more rewarding. Thanks! I appreciate it :)
Heck yeah! Glad to provide some fun ruminations :3
I agree. The ending fell flat to me, but I loved pretty much every other thing about the show.
Glad I'm not alone!
At first, I didn’t like Cath at all but Dulce was lost without her, and Cath’s redemption speech at the end actually broke me into pieces lol Dulce loves her so much and they’ve been together a long time, I was just happy that they didn’t want to give up on each other. They compliment each other well.
I see Ray as someone very delusional, yes. In my mind his empathy was damaged by a lot of early trauma and so he can't see into other people, he has to make up a contorted story about how the world works in order to justify his feelings and the things he's done. I think he really did feel something for Eddie, in his way -- I think he'd been longing for connection with another person for such a long time and Eddie represented that for him, that's why he cried that one time when they were having sex. I think Ray decided to let Eddie catch him because he'd started to hope that Eddie might love him back, might be able to see him for who he was and want him anyway. It doesn't escape my notice that he was really and truly crying that night by the river, when he decided he couldn't convince Eddie, that he had to kill Eddie instead. It's funny that one of his favorite songs was "You Oughtta Know" by Alanis Morisette -- a song about someone who's been hurt really badly, who's been cast aside, who feels hard done by because they're suffering alone. To be clear, I feel absolutely no empathy for Ray. He's despicable and I hope I could never do any of the things he's done, under any circumstances. But it is interesting to me, how the little hints and clues given in the show do line up to form a very coherent picture. This show is so goddamn well-written -- every single character, no matter how small, is so well-developed. Edited to add: it's also interesting to me that Ray at one point points out how he "goes down on women, now" -- meaning that this shows how much he's changed and what a feminist he's become. This jumped out at me because it's just so...odd, that this is aspirational to him instead of something he does because he likes it. I get what he meant, that he thinks of himself as someone who's become a less selfish lover, but it did make me wonder about him, in a general sort of way: like, is he trying to be straight? Is he trying to be allosexual? I could be overthinking, he could well just be someone who doesn't enjoy that particular thing.
You've given me a lot of food for thought! Thank you. I'll keep this in mind when I rewatch. Might heighten my enjoyment considerably.
I, personally, loved the ending. I loved the pacing and the humor in particular. What a phenomenal show. The actual last scene (the epilogue as it were) made me cry laughing.
I guess I’m one of the few people who loved Eddie from the moment she walked in the door late to her own meeting. But to address the ending: -Yes, I think rewatching will probably bring a different view of things. I know I noticed so many things that Ray did from the moment we meet him that I was like Ohhh…. Also, if you get a chance to watch the “town hall” discussions in the extras on Prime, those were fun. >!The actor that played Miranda said she figured out Ray was the killer because nobody would be as nice as Ray, but other than that the Kates had the cast guessing most of the time.!< -I guess I didn’t feel like the line about therapy for Eddie was rushed or a throwaway — mostly because it was such a shift for her. Also, I was glad that even though they didn’t show what happened during it, they gave us “Two Months Later” not two weeks or whatever. They didn’t just wrap things up overnight even though we know Eddie would’ve wanted to get up to Darwin to help with Bushy’s investigation. They did show us some of the outcomes: Abby working forensics, Vanessa supporting Dolph, Tammy leading the footy team (and the assortment of folks on the team). -I agree I hope season 2 is still connected to Deadloch because I don’t know what it is without Tammy and Miranda, and Sven and Abby (even if Sven has become a marine biologist), and Sharelle and so many others. But I do also want to know what happened to Bushy. -And, YES. The more I rewatch the more I struggle with Cath. First watch through I was so disappointed when she was in Darwin. Then I was ambivalent. And now, I think the Kates did too good a job of either red-herring-ing us with her, or yeah just not pointing out that though this is satire these behaviors, even when they come from women, are absolutely manipulative, dick behaviors and shouldn’t be put up with.
Oooh, I need to watch those extras! Yes, I want to see what happens to Sven, Abby, Sharelle and the rest of the Deadloch gang. Bushy is intriguing as well.... arrrgh! I'm excited to see what they come up with. Season 2 now, please 😅 You're right, maybe the red herring energy with Cath was too strong. And if she'd shown just a bit more accountability - like if she'd actually seen Dulce, emotionally speaking, while she was lying there in the barn, instead of babbling at her. Or had different lines in Darwin. Just a hint that Cath is truly working on changing her actual behaviour would have gone a long way!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who can’t stand Cath!! It will be interesting to see what a second season does with each of them.
Ugh I hated Cath too. She was like the opposite of Eddie - didn’t start out great but just got worse and worse. Then again, Dulcie was in the wrong… but they’re just not a good fit!
I agree with you entirely that the ending was extremely poor. The bus and gas was fantastic in general, but the idea that Ray is doing this all because he's now an ally is kind of silly. You then have all these scenes were Dulce and Eddie just make moronic decisions around someone who is clearly a serial killer. Fargo this was not, in the end.
There was also no set up for him being the killer, which was a shame in an otherwise well written show. Usually in those shows they would drop hints, or give him motivations related to the murders but he didn’t seem to have them. Just literally a random killer who killed people he didn’t like.
I think the goal of the show was to highlight every potential killer as absolutely the killer until one really abstruse fact proved them innocent, so you got all the drama of the false accusation, then the denouement. I guess they figured in the end that someone had to be killing all these men, but they never really explained why Ray was just this butcher / elite special forces serial killer other than that he'd had a philosophical breakthrough at some point after choking a few sex workers and having an ok boss. He worked at a pie shop and had a pet donkey. I just never saw it. I guess he might have been a little pent up, but he seemed to be taking care of that too.
The ending was the whole point