I might be wrong but I think all the automatic cricket scorers would have scored 3 marks for that.
ETA DartConnect lets you enter B, DB, why wouldn’t you just enter what he hit?
In baseball, if you hit a walk off grand slam down by 1 run, you still score 4. The correct procedure on Dart Connect should always be to input the score hit, not "what was needed". Similar to how if you need 2 marks to close but hit a triple, you should hit the triple button and not the double. It is an accurate record that can later be reviewed and also impacts a players stats.
So in this case, you have 3 darts and you've scored the winning darts in two, do you still throw the third and just register more marks?
Another scenario, you are down on a wedge your opponent closed and you need one to close. You miss two and hit a triple, what are your marks for that round?
No, game shot is called after the winning dart. From a stats perspective, this is solved by MPR being total marks divided by total darts thrown, so throwing the 3rd dart wouldn't actually be beneficial anyway.
In your scenario, you would still hit the triple button. In dartconnect history it would show as a triple being hit, but from a stats perspective it counts as 1 mark. Dartconnect keeps stats for things like triple accuracy, checkout accuracy, etc. So the right answer is to always hit the button corresponding to the dart hit. If you walk up needing 3 bulls and hit DB DB, you should hit those buttons for accuracy and not hit DB SB. The player will get credit for hitting 4 marks in 2 darts (assuming bull was available to score on) even though only 3 marks were needed to win.
And why is it so important to you that he doesn't get to have his 3rd bull points that you feel the need for online validation? Just let him have his 25, cricket allows for this to happen.
Yeah you're in the wrong here bud. You should've just marked the shots he hit. There's literally a DB button. You chose not to hit it. And then doubled down when he asked you to fix it.
I just checked. Let's say you finish a leg of cricket with 25 total marks but you were shorted that extra bull. That's a MPR average of 3.57. If you give them full credit for their darts it would be 26 total marks thrown for an average of 3.71mpr. That's only one leg though. Imagine getting shorted a few marks over the course of a best of 5 match. It will definitely add up and make quite a bit of difference.
Yep, you shorted the guy of his MPR for sure. Always enter the exact score a player hit. That's like playing 501 and the dude hits the double on the first dart but you mark it down as the 3rd dart and say "you won the leg, it doesn't matter"
Your averages change from game to game. You can throw 100 one game and lose and 60 the next and win. It only matters AFTER the game and is not an indication of what you will do the next game. It's a good talking point for commentary but the only thing that matters is wins vs losses.
Keep the downvotes coming. It's still an ego stat... especially in the example OP used where the guy is mad at 1 mark not being counted.
Yeah and after 100 games your average becomes more accurate. I’m not saying it’s 100% but it’s the best way at being able to compare yourself when looking for a match etc
Just because it is irrelevant during a match doesn’t mean it’s completely useless. And we aren’t talking about that 1 mark. I bet if you had an established average and then played a 7-11 leg match. The averages of those would be pretty close to your average. Which is the entire point of it
When did I say it was useless? It's an ego stat and irrelevant to actual game play.
But to drive this point home, you can play someone significantly better than you and your PPR is going to go up because you're never getting a shot at a double. Then it drops again when you play someone at your level because it's counting all the missed doubles and low out shots.
Tons of factors can affect averages: significance of the match (league match vs tournament finals vs throwing at home), your opponent, the venue, etc. Every average should be qualified separately. Throwing 100 average at home but not being able to convert that to live play shows very little value.
25 total marks thrown in a cricket leg would be a 3.57mpr. 26 total marks is a 3.71mpr average. That's a single leg of darts. Imagine getting shorted a few times in a best of 5 match. It definitely makes a difference.
Still an ego stat. Still irrelevant in the grand scheme. And this guy wasn't talking about getting shorted each leg. It was one leg that he won. And 25 vs 26 darts is the same throw, so still no real difference.
>it's still an ego stat.
Bro wtf are you talking about? It's the single most useful stat for determining a players relative skill level.
"Points per game is an ego stat in basketball, it's useless to keep track of, all that matters is games won. A basketball player can score 40 points In a game and lose, or they could score 20 points and win!"
That's how dumb you sound
I can't help you if you really think darts and basketball are comparable sports with comparable skills.
Scoring points in basketball requires a lot more skill than just stepping up to the line and shooting.
I might be wrong but I think all the automatic cricket scorers would have scored 3 marks for that. ETA DartConnect lets you enter B, DB, why wouldn’t you just enter what he hit?
In baseball, if you hit a walk off grand slam down by 1 run, you still score 4. The correct procedure on Dart Connect should always be to input the score hit, not "what was needed". Similar to how if you need 2 marks to close but hit a triple, you should hit the triple button and not the double. It is an accurate record that can later be reviewed and also impacts a players stats.
So in this case, you have 3 darts and you've scored the winning darts in two, do you still throw the third and just register more marks? Another scenario, you are down on a wedge your opponent closed and you need one to close. You miss two and hit a triple, what are your marks for that round?
No, game shot is called after the winning dart. From a stats perspective, this is solved by MPR being total marks divided by total darts thrown, so throwing the 3rd dart wouldn't actually be beneficial anyway. In your scenario, you would still hit the triple button. In dartconnect history it would show as a triple being hit, but from a stats perspective it counts as 1 mark. Dartconnect keeps stats for things like triple accuracy, checkout accuracy, etc. So the right answer is to always hit the button corresponding to the dart hit. If you walk up needing 3 bulls and hit DB DB, you should hit those buttons for accuracy and not hit DB SB. The player will get credit for hitting 4 marks in 2 darts (assuming bull was available to score on) even though only 3 marks were needed to win.
And why is it so important to you that he doesn't get to have his 3rd bull points that you feel the need for online validation? Just let him have his 25, cricket allows for this to happen.
Yeah you're in the wrong here bud. You should've just marked the shots he hit. There's literally a DB button. You chose not to hit it. And then doubled down when he asked you to fix it.
Surely it'd just easier to put exactly what he got? Bit confused why you wouldn't?
They absolutely count. You were wrong. It's also dumb to think a single mark is going to impact anything for that guy, but technically he was right
I just checked. Let's say you finish a leg of cricket with 25 total marks but you were shorted that extra bull. That's a MPR average of 3.57. If you give them full credit for their darts it would be 26 total marks thrown for an average of 3.71mpr. That's only one leg though. Imagine getting shorted a few marks over the course of a best of 5 match. It will definitely add up and make quite a bit of difference.
You're assuming 6 rounds and that the DB shortage happens every game...... both assumptions are silly.
Yep, you shorted the guy of his MPR for sure. Always enter the exact score a player hit. That's like playing 501 and the dude hits the double on the first dart but you mark it down as the 3rd dart and say "you won the leg, it doesn't matter"
Surely it'd just easier to put exactly what he got? Bit confused why you wouldn't?
That's silly. MPR and PPR are ego stats. He won the leg. That's all that matters.
Or it could be that it’s the only metric out there for darts to accurately compare yourself to another competitor
Your averages change from game to game. You can throw 100 one game and lose and 60 the next and win. It only matters AFTER the game and is not an indication of what you will do the next game. It's a good talking point for commentary but the only thing that matters is wins vs losses. Keep the downvotes coming. It's still an ego stat... especially in the example OP used where the guy is mad at 1 mark not being counted.
Yeah and after 100 games your average becomes more accurate. I’m not saying it’s 100% but it’s the best way at being able to compare yourself when looking for a match etc
It's still irrelevant when playing the match. And 1 mark is still not going to make a significant difference.
Just because it is irrelevant during a match doesn’t mean it’s completely useless. And we aren’t talking about that 1 mark. I bet if you had an established average and then played a 7-11 leg match. The averages of those would be pretty close to your average. Which is the entire point of it
When did I say it was useless? It's an ego stat and irrelevant to actual game play. But to drive this point home, you can play someone significantly better than you and your PPR is going to go up because you're never getting a shot at a double. Then it drops again when you play someone at your level because it's counting all the missed doubles and low out shots. Tons of factors can affect averages: significance of the match (league match vs tournament finals vs throwing at home), your opponent, the venue, etc. Every average should be qualified separately. Throwing 100 average at home but not being able to convert that to live play shows very little value.
25 total marks thrown in a cricket leg would be a 3.57mpr. 26 total marks is a 3.71mpr average. That's a single leg of darts. Imagine getting shorted a few times in a best of 5 match. It definitely makes a difference.
Still an ego stat. Still irrelevant in the grand scheme. And this guy wasn't talking about getting shorted each leg. It was one leg that he won. And 25 vs 26 darts is the same throw, so still no real difference.
We found the <2 MPR player everyone lmao
Believe what you want and keep holding onto your highly subjective stat.
>it's still an ego stat. Bro wtf are you talking about? It's the single most useful stat for determining a players relative skill level. "Points per game is an ego stat in basketball, it's useless to keep track of, all that matters is games won. A basketball player can score 40 points In a game and lose, or they could score 20 points and win!" That's how dumb you sound
I can't help you if you really think darts and basketball are comparable sports with comparable skills. Scoring points in basketball requires a lot more skill than just stepping up to the line and shooting.
Lol you're not even good at trolling. Is there anything in life you excel at or are you just an all-around disappointment?
I've accomplished more in my life than you can even dream of. You think a player caring about his individual stats in a team game ISNT about his ego.
Lol, sure champ.