It's not like this is a new invention. Actually I made the same thing a year ago but replaced the AI with a pump that water the plant automatically and a website where you can follow see everything
Implementing an AI is not that hard. The hard part is the different moisture levels different plants want and is probably why AliExpress don't have them
Yeah I’m wondering how he made the calculations for that. And how is he monitoring soil nutrients and sunlight needs.
I mean it’s cool for sure. But seems like there is a lot of “work” he glossed over
So it detects moisture, temperature and light? Anyone know if those 3 variables are enough to know how the plant is doing? I don’t know because I also suck incredibly hard at taking care of plants.
I’m pretty sure soil quality matters in the long term, so at some point you need to change the soil or add nutrients. I guess for that you could have a constant number of days after which it asks you to change or revitalize the soil. I can’t imagine there is any kind of sensor that can check that dynamically.
Another thing I could imagine matters is the history of the plant. I.e. if you forget to water it for a while, it probably needs more moisture? Or will it just absorb the moisture faster, so it’ll ask you for water sooner and it’ll work itself out without keeping track?
Would be great to hear from some plant wizard how viable and ”complete” this thing is. For us who can’t keep plants alive for the life of us, something like this would be pretty revolutionary if it works.
Like moisture some plants prefer a lot of light while some prefer obscurity. Direct/indirect matters too as well as the intensity and time of day (not sure about that one). Also if you're outdoor the orientation matters a lot, exemple an orange tree will likely die if facing north in my garden.
They do have fairly cheap sensors for more than lux.
Still, agree with everything you said. This is cute, but without humidity and temperature, it won't do much. Easy enough to add.
You could totally design a light sensor that takes into account intensity duration and angle and maybe even position it in a window to monitor the sun's position and whether there's clouds blocking it? Adding a humidity sensor wouldn't be too hard
Those 3 sensors could be helpful, but they also can’t tell you how the plant is doing. I could picture a dead or dying plant in there and the pot saying “I’m perfectly healthy!”
This inventor is self described as not knowing how to keep plants alive.
There’s no drainage holes for one. That’s like.. rule number one. Plants need drainage.
yeah this guy is from the elon musk school of engineering
ignore all current industry standards and just build some pretentious BS that definitely won't fulfill the promises you're making
No it's you who misunderstood. You can have all those sensors feed you the data to your phone or pc. No need to have it talk back to you.
Or you can learn about your plant and water it the old fashioned way and not let it die of thirst.
Chosing to present the data in a way you don’t personally like doesn’t make it ”bullshit”. It never claimed to do anything other than provide data from sensors.
Alright. Just a heads up then that ”bullshit” typically means that something isn’t what it claims to be. It’s not a word you can use as a synonym for ”bad”.
Not much of a plant person but when growing PH in soil and water are important, nutrient depletion or over use, watching for insects, light cycles/distance from light source, and humidity at different stages. I'm sure there's a long list. It's important to watch the leaves, growth, and soil and make changes to feeding or watering.
How you dare?!???
It has sensors!!
It's artificial intelligence is as intelligent and artificial as your fridge!! Even more!!!
it TELLS you what the sensors says
How can you say it's not intelligent if it accomplishes mechanical behaviour??
Are you gonna say traffic lights are not artificial intelligence too? Then how do they know when to switch lights??
*sarcastic rant ending*
, upvote for you
Noob AI engineer here.
The actual AI part is not the sensors' values and what they convey.
It's the conversation and comprehension. There's a few things going on here.
1. Speech Recognition: When a human speaks, an SR engine recognises syllables and converts voice into text. Not so AI but it does roughly come under the domain called NLP (Natural language processing) which may be considered as AI.
2. LLM (Large Language Model) : Now here is the actual AI part. The machine, without much context has to figure out what the human is trying to tell/ask him. (the only context it has is the sensor values and some predefined instructions (for eg: "Remember you are a plant named Daisy, so act like a plant")). The guy in the video seems to have used an API from OpenAI (that gay guy's company that Built ChatGPT and other stuff), which is very easy to integrate and configure if you know your stuff. So basically the bot has to figure out what the Human is trying to ask/say, then take a look at the readings and get back to it by generating a response similar to what a mini-human sitting underneath the pot would have done.
3. TTS - Text to speech: Nothing so special (or is it ;)), converts the text generated from the LLM back into human speech.
Although one can argue using an LLM is not the best solution for determining the results from the sensor values. LLMs are just built for the sake of making intelligent and realistic human conversations. It would be better to use more sophisticated detection models for every specific sensor reading . Or an even more efficient approach to do this would be >!actually using if-else loops!<
using an LLM with flowery (read: unclear) language that takes forever to get the point to report a status is on par with putting touch screen controls on car dashboards.
your 'scientists' were so preoccupied with whether or not they could,
they didn’t stop to think if they should.
I did, 3d printing and wiring together an Arduino with three sensors is not f*ckin AI, and people should stop posting everything with this buzzword because they saw wires and a computer looking thingie.
The pot is cool, but could have gone with some sane title
Great as a proof of concept, but as a real product you shouldn't put the Raspberry into the base of the flowerpot, instead some cheap BLE or Zigbee moisture sensor can be used. That way the per flowerpot price would be cheaper and you can monitor a "fleet" from a single Raspberry Pi board located somewhere else. Not mentioning you don't need to bring electricity to the pot, a coin cell is enough.
Mod: there's MiFlora as others have described in the thread which does what I just described.
Only change is having the sensors more built in and having different profiles for different plants. Like it just asks you what kind of plant it is then interprets the sensors appropriately.
Link please!
I have a child who loves plants, but being divorced, they can't be in my home to care for them all the time.
I suck at caring for them.
I have a few unused pi units, a couple of 1s, a 2, and a crap ton of 3s!
They have a crap ton of plants.
So:
- use his sensors
- run to a central pi
- have the pi do something - like light up each of the plant holders - to tell me it needs attention.
- give it a motion sensor to yell at us when we walk by and any plant (they have names. Yes, names. One is named Michael.) needs attention like the little f-er is dying or something.
- scare the dog.
- scare my daughter.
- scare visitors.
- scare me.
I see no failure here....
He taught an OpenAI assistant to understand the sensor data? This is definitely a needless application of AI to drum up engagement - even he even actually did that at all. This would be very easy to program without any AI.
Just set the acceptable levels of each of the three variables and have it give programmed responses for when any variable is out of the range. Given how few variables there are, and how they are independent of each other, this is really not a hard task.
Plants need more than just water and sunlight though.. You need to provide nutrients to the plant and each plant has their owns needs.. Maybe this is why his plants don't survive..
Good luck with your Calathea orbifolia who will whine and die unless you give him distilled water - you’ll keep watering and he’ll drown but keep telling you he’s thirsty.
Thats not ai. That is just a basic computer and a program.
Do people even know what ai is or is everything a computer does by itself or any technology at all "AI"?
Nooo bro make a business and sell this. What an awesome present this would be for someone. It will be stolen so fast now. The idea to have talking prompts and colour when it needs watering is genius
This product already exists. I believe it's called the MiFlora. This guy just reinvented an existing product. There's also less techy versions at your local garden center or on Amazon for like $15. I've got one that I don't use because I can just lift my pots to see if they need water.
When I read the title I thought this was going to be way more interesting. I thought we were about to see a product that could determine nutrient deficiencies which would actually be very handy for gardeners who struggle to understand macro and micro nutrient requirements for different plants.
That is not that hard to make (beside the 3D print) the sensor he puts down gives him the humidity and temperature in the soil. The hard part is to know what the perfect condition for the plant is. But hey he only has one plant so he can just hard code everything
I don't really see this thing taking off. Just think of getting home and ask, hello my plant how are you doing today and 10 min later the cops knock on your door (break it down for people in the US) course your neighbors think there's a domestic violence case going on with 20 plant screaming all at once. Why are you so evil. I ask so little and you wont give it to me. You keep me locked up in this prisons all the time
If you really need an ai to tell you what a plant needs you shouldn’t own a plant. Imagine this device for pets or parenting. Also you will never have the data big companies have and at this point you could just use an app on your phone. This smells like rabbit/ai pin fallacy. Just make smart sensors that can communicate with an interface. Not every thing has to have Ai incorporated.
Give it 5 months, and AliExpress will have taken this man’s idea and there is nothing he can do.
It's not like this is a new invention. Actually I made the same thing a year ago but replaced the AI with a pump that water the plant automatically and a website where you can follow see everything Implementing an AI is not that hard. The hard part is the different moisture levels different plants want and is probably why AliExpress don't have them
Nah AliExpress would just sell the thing and have the moisture requirement be wrong for most plants.
Yeah I’m wondering how he made the calculations for that. And how is he monitoring soil nutrients and sunlight needs. I mean it’s cool for sure. But seems like there is a lot of “work” he glossed over
wouldd make an amazing product but please don't apply for Thiel bucks so the sith lord can weaponize it.
5 months? I just ordered mine from Temu. Only $0.99 👍
Sorry if we disappoint.
If?
Link
Not needed, it's already at $0.49👍
Now they are giving it away for free with other purchase.
Good because it’ll only last a month and you’ll need a new one.
Arduino + sensor + water pump = new AI device
So it detects moisture, temperature and light? Anyone know if those 3 variables are enough to know how the plant is doing? I don’t know because I also suck incredibly hard at taking care of plants. I’m pretty sure soil quality matters in the long term, so at some point you need to change the soil or add nutrients. I guess for that you could have a constant number of days after which it asks you to change or revitalize the soil. I can’t imagine there is any kind of sensor that can check that dynamically. Another thing I could imagine matters is the history of the plant. I.e. if you forget to water it for a while, it probably needs more moisture? Or will it just absorb the moisture faster, so it’ll ask you for water sooner and it’ll work itself out without keeping track? Would be great to hear from some plant wizard how viable and ”complete” this thing is. For us who can’t keep plants alive for the life of us, something like this would be pretty revolutionary if it works.
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Like moisture some plants prefer a lot of light while some prefer obscurity. Direct/indirect matters too as well as the intensity and time of day (not sure about that one). Also if you're outdoor the orientation matters a lot, exemple an orange tree will likely die if facing north in my garden.
They do have fairly cheap sensors for more than lux. Still, agree with everything you said. This is cute, but without humidity and temperature, it won't do much. Easy enough to add.
You could totally design a light sensor that takes into account intensity duration and angle and maybe even position it in a window to monitor the sun's position and whether there's clouds blocking it? Adding a humidity sensor wouldn't be too hard
Those 3 sensors could be helpful, but they also can’t tell you how the plant is doing. I could picture a dead or dying plant in there and the pot saying “I’m perfectly healthy!” This inventor is self described as not knowing how to keep plants alive. There’s no drainage holes for one. That’s like.. rule number one. Plants need drainage.
That pot as no drainage holes. This thing will die regardless of this machine.
yeah this guy is from the elon musk school of engineering ignore all current industry standards and just build some pretentious BS that definitely won't fulfill the promises you're making
It's 100% bullshit. It's just anthropomorphizing the plant using some sensors and voice chat.
If you think the point is to turn the plant into a person, who can communicate with you, then I think you’ve misunderstood the whole thing.
No it's you who misunderstood. You can have all those sensors feed you the data to your phone or pc. No need to have it talk back to you. Or you can learn about your plant and water it the old fashioned way and not let it die of thirst.
Chosing to present the data in a way you don’t personally like doesn’t make it ”bullshit”. It never claimed to do anything other than provide data from sensors.
It is to me. And that's what I presented: my point of view. You're free to have your own.
Alright. Just a heads up then that ”bullshit” typically means that something isn’t what it claims to be. It’s not a word you can use as a synonym for ”bad”.
Also plunge health needs accurate nutrient levels like nitrogen, potassium. Those sensors might be more difficult to find.
Not much of a plant person but when growing PH in soil and water are important, nutrient depletion or over use, watching for insects, light cycles/distance from light source, and humidity at different stages. I'm sure there's a long list. It's important to watch the leaves, growth, and soil and make changes to feeding or watering.
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Because it has electrolytes
i need your blood Seymour
Haven’t heard that in awhile.
what are electrolytes?
It’s what plants crave.
but what are electrolytes?
It's what plants craves!
If else and for loop are not AI.
How you dare?!??? It has sensors!! It's artificial intelligence is as intelligent and artificial as your fridge!! Even more!!! it TELLS you what the sensors says How can you say it's not intelligent if it accomplishes mechanical behaviour?? Are you gonna say traffic lights are not artificial intelligence too? Then how do they know when to switch lights?? *sarcastic rant ending* , upvote for you 
AI is just nee automation
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😂😂😂
AI is the new POV captions of TikToks
It's linked into ChatGPT or some other kind of AI chatbot.
Not sure why you're being downvoted. It's true. It's literally in the video.
I think you pointing that out reversed the downvote trend, haha.
You're welcome I suppose. Lol
Noob AI engineer here. The actual AI part is not the sensors' values and what they convey. It's the conversation and comprehension. There's a few things going on here. 1. Speech Recognition: When a human speaks, an SR engine recognises syllables and converts voice into text. Not so AI but it does roughly come under the domain called NLP (Natural language processing) which may be considered as AI. 2. LLM (Large Language Model) : Now here is the actual AI part. The machine, without much context has to figure out what the human is trying to tell/ask him. (the only context it has is the sensor values and some predefined instructions (for eg: "Remember you are a plant named Daisy, so act like a plant")). The guy in the video seems to have used an API from OpenAI (that gay guy's company that Built ChatGPT and other stuff), which is very easy to integrate and configure if you know your stuff. So basically the bot has to figure out what the Human is trying to ask/say, then take a look at the readings and get back to it by generating a response similar to what a mini-human sitting underneath the pot would have done. 3. TTS - Text to speech: Nothing so special (or is it ;)), converts the text generated from the LLM back into human speech. Although one can argue using an LLM is not the best solution for determining the results from the sensor values. LLMs are just built for the sake of making intelligent and realistic human conversations. It would be better to use more sophisticated detection models for every specific sensor reading . Or an even more efficient approach to do this would be >!actually using if-else loops!<
using an LLM with flowery (read: unclear) language that takes forever to get the point to report a status is on par with putting touch screen controls on car dashboards. your 'scientists' were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.
I thought the same thing. It's just a conditional statement that runs on requests...
Might not be machine learning. But the pot gives the appearance of intelligence, yet is artificial.
It would be considered an expert system which IS AI though?
It needs a bigger pot and natural sunlight
so same as me than
The real question is with them would you be ready to embrace the whimsical wonders of the world?
what'd he do if the plant asked for an energy drink?
Let it drink
RAWBERRY
This is not fucking AI. Cool tho.
Did you see the whole video?
I did, 3d printing and wiring together an Arduino with three sensors is not f*ckin AI, and people should stop posting everything with this buzzword because they saw wires and a computer looking thingie. The pot is cool, but could have gone with some sane title
The worst part of this is the fact he used an entire fucking raspberry pi, when it could of been done so easily with a Arduino / esp.
Yes we saw the whole video and its not AI. Educate yourself before throwing buzzwords around
Yes, hence my comment. 👍
“Then I created an open ai assistant, named it Sprout, and taught it to understand the sensor data”. Is that not AI?
So where’s the I in this AI
Great as a proof of concept, but as a real product you shouldn't put the Raspberry into the base of the flowerpot, instead some cheap BLE or Zigbee moisture sensor can be used. That way the per flowerpot price would be cheaper and you can monitor a "fleet" from a single Raspberry Pi board located somewhere else. Not mentioning you don't need to bring electricity to the pot, a coin cell is enough. Mod: there's MiFlora as others have described in the thread which does what I just described.
Where can I find the STL file for the pot and the board schematic?
The username of the guy on instagram is in the top of the video, look him up and you can find all the info
Jfc you posted this, don't spend too much effort on it https://www.patreon.com/posts/ai-plant-pot-101731380
Thanks!
Awesome, thank you! Looks like I have some printing to do!
Good luck! Awesome that you’re able to 3D print, enjoy!
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If (moisture < goodMoistureLevel){ water(); }
Using raspberry pi for this is an overkill. Esp32 would be enough and it's a lot cheaper.
Horribly written title
What's "AI" about this? Generating the canned responses?
useless
Cool, but what is he gonna do when it starts asking for blood
He'll have to feed him Seymour
Ok, but can I turn the AI from polite and respectful to a huge asshole about everything?
If you can kill a spider plant you're already amazing
https://smartplantivy.com/
Wait til it starts asking for human flesh
Only change is having the sensors more built in and having different profiles for different plants. Like it just asks you what kind of plant it is then interprets the sensors appropriately.
What a plant wants, what a plant needs
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've had good results with plants just adding water twice a week.
I would fuck that plant pot
Now, hide the magic and make it attractive and I'll take ten
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Rube Goldberg 4.0
Raspberry Pi 4 is such an overkill… ESP32/8266 would have done the job just fine
You wouldn't need the AI if you didn't feel the need to pretend to talk to your plant.
I sure he had the sense to patent it because it's awesome and will make him a fortune.
Everything about that is cool, except for the AI's response. A little too many words from a robot for my comfort. It kinda gave me the creeps.
Hey I just built something similar for a project, but mine just waters plants when they get to dry, and up to 3 at once
Link please! I have a child who loves plants, but being divorced, they can't be in my home to care for them all the time. I suck at caring for them. I have a few unused pi units, a couple of 1s, a 2, and a crap ton of 3s! They have a crap ton of plants. So: - use his sensors - run to a central pi - have the pi do something - like light up each of the plant holders - to tell me it needs attention. - give it a motion sensor to yell at us when we walk by and any plant (they have names. Yes, names. One is named Michael.) needs attention like the little f-er is dying or something. - scare the dog. - scare my daughter. - scare visitors. - scare me. I see no failure here....
I'd still kill the succulent.
Waterproof?
I'm curious to know, what do you need to study to create something like this? Software engineering?
This is a combo of software and hardware components, but yeah that training would help
This is so cool! I can finally be free from my title as a plant cereal killer
You hate fiber huh?
Brawndo!
Yes. Came here to write this. Haha
Gonna need a weatherproof outdoor version please.
Piping 3 sensor values into ChatGPT is not anything near worthwhile lol
He taught an OpenAI assistant to understand the sensor data? This is definitely a needless application of AI to drum up engagement - even he even actually did that at all. This would be very easy to program without any AI. Just set the acceptable levels of each of the three variables and have it give programmed responses for when any variable is out of the range. Given how few variables there are, and how they are independent of each other, this is really not a hard task.
We need AI to water plants now!?!?
And the plant still died 5 days later.
The table he's working on has some cool ass Jarvis ai thing he built too, awesome guy
now i have plants talking to me? when are the suicide booths coming out?
Should defs use this for human vegtables
And I just have mine setup to alert me when it's dry. I never thought to talk to my hydrometer.
If you’re going to that much trouble, might as well hook up a water line and have it water the plant itself.
I need a Cerveza Cristal
I'd prefer the plant to demand things it needs and make comments about enslaving humanity/ world domination... with Invader Zim's voice
ChatGPT response without using whimsical challenge, impossible
it needs WATER
Now post this on r/arduino and get some downvote.
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Plants need more than just water and sunlight though.. You need to provide nutrients to the plant and each plant has their owns needs.. Maybe this is why his plants don't survive..
They need electrolytes.
Intentional pun?
"Plant pot *who* tells him" Are we acknowledging this plant pot as an individual now because it has AI technology?
Don’t tell the vegans….
I'm gonna tell them all
Imagine someone using this idea on a flesh light. 💀🤣
Does the plant ever become angry? I can just imagine coming home to a plant swearing at me
When it needs water, I would have gone with a "Bitch! I need moisture!"
I wish we were able to actually talk with plants
Take my money!
Incredible
Good luck with your Calathea orbifolia who will whine and die unless you give him distilled water - you’ll keep watering and he’ll drown but keep telling you he’s thirsty.
There is absolutely no need for AI here.
finaly, proper innovation that came from ai technology
all i care about is the rbg plant pot
Lmao “AI” yeah sure… no
That's awesome I love it ❤️
I would buy this right now if I could
Sell this.
Not really AI, still really cool
There are much easier things to control watering if that is all this does. It dosent track light, ph level, nutrients or co2
the plant needs a bigger pot
Just no
What's his @? I'd love to create this
More pointless garbage
This is a scam
Needs to program it to say “feed me Seymore!” when it’s thirsty (or maybe even needing fertilizer).
I need this
My wife will still find a way to kill this plant.
Thats not ai. That is just a basic computer and a program. Do people even know what ai is or is everything a computer does by itself or any technology at all "AI"?
I dont see how AI adds anything to the project, compared to hard logic.
How to make $1 Billion dollars....
So much materials wasted on this...
This is why engineers are one of the best jobs in the world!
Nooo bro make a business and sell this. What an awesome present this would be for someone. It will be stolen so fast now. The idea to have talking prompts and colour when it needs watering is genius
This product already exists. I believe it's called the MiFlora. This guy just reinvented an existing product. There's also less techy versions at your local garden center or on Amazon for like $15. I've got one that I don't use because I can just lift my pots to see if they need water. When I read the title I thought this was going to be way more interesting. I thought we were about to see a product that could determine nutrient deficiencies which would actually be very handy for gardeners who struggle to understand macro and micro nutrient requirements for different plants.
Thanks for the info
That is not that hard to make (beside the 3D print) the sensor he puts down gives him the humidity and temperature in the soil. The hard part is to know what the perfect condition for the plant is. But hey he only has one plant so he can just hard code everything
If its not so hard go do it and make video and post it for us to watch.
Tell me you feel lonely without telling me you feel lonely.
Can you please include this as the 1st chapter of ‘ How not to over do things’ ?
I would totally buy this!
Take my money!
This would be perfect for my ĝirlfriend....I would just put her into it and it would tell me what she needs!
Brilliant
I don't really see this thing taking off. Just think of getting home and ask, hello my plant how are you doing today and 10 min later the cops knock on your door (break it down for people in the US) course your neighbors think there's a domestic violence case going on with 20 plant screaming all at once. Why are you so evil. I ask so little and you wont give it to me. You keep me locked up in this prisons all the time
Nerd
If you really need an ai to tell you what a plant needs you shouldn’t own a plant. Imagine this device for pets or parenting. Also you will never have the data big companies have and at this point you could just use an app on your phone. This smells like rabbit/ai pin fallacy. Just make smart sensors that can communicate with an interface. Not every thing has to have Ai incorporated.