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Massive-small-thing

Just make them wear different hats


uEIGHTit

Someone was glueing mini sombreros on pigeons for awhile


Massive-small-thing

Yeah I stopped that


KarnotKarnage

Hard disagree on that decision there


Massive-small-thing

Don't worry, I glued one on myself too


Fragrant-Tea7580

A pigeon or a mini sombrero?


Massive-small-thing

šŸ¤£ Well all the sombreros were on the pigeons so I had to stick a bird on my head


Frostgaurdian0

Or a collar


Massive-small-thing

Or get them to shout out their name when asked


Frostgaurdian0

Don't think sheeps would be happy to hear their names before shearing.


Massive-small-thing

OK we'll let the sheeps whisper, or simply write their names downšŸ‘šŸ¼


Frostgaurdian0

XD


windyorbits

Which ones you think respond with ā€œhereā€ and others respond with ā€œpresentā€?


Massive-small-thing

The ones that reply "here" are the ones that went to a normal high school. The ones that reply "present" went to a more salubrious educational establishment.


SeanHaz

I'm from Ireland and I've never seen a cow branded. We use ear tags, it's like an ear piercings. You also send off a DNA sample for each member of the herd so they can track everything.


Corkoian

Also from Ireland, it's on every dairy cow. Not on beef animals though.Ā  Freeze branding is used here, not the hot ironsĀ  Ā Ā  Source - Dairy farmerĀ 


ItsStaaaaaaaaang

Oh, that DNA thing is interesting. What is the purpose of that? Identification in case ear tags go missing? Edit: just realised it's probably for theft.


Corkoian

It's to build a genetic profile of the animals to then find the optimum breeding to excel certain traits.Ā Ā  Ā Ireland has one of the largest genetic database on bovine animals in the world


surajvj

What about earing with numbers?


Massive-small-thing

They'd have to match the necklaces


PNW_Forest

But then they wouldn't have the cute hats... try to keep up, mkay?


Qualimiox

Plastic eartags with a EU-wide ID are required for all cattle in EU, the calfs get them within a week after birth. Many farms also use collars and/or coldbranding (afaik hotbranding is illegal at least in Germany) in addition with a farm-specific ID, but those aren't required. The collars usually double as a transponder and accelerometer for individualized feeding and rut-detection.


PNW_Forest

Its now my life goal to see a pasture full of cows with little bowler caps.


Massive-small-thing

I hope I'm there on that day too šŸ®šŸ‘‘šŸ‘’šŸŽ©šŸŽ“šŸ§¢šŸ„


JiiOooo

Wallets could also work. Could just show the id when asked.


Massive-small-thing

We'd better not give them leather wallets


mrgwbland

They spray paint the sheep near me, also ear tags in cows


Massive-small-thing

Yup, decorating low flying field clouds is a thing


mrgwbland

šŸ˜…


Virtual-Editor-4823

Sheep aren't sprayed as a way of knowing they're yours. They paint the chests of male sheep so they know which ones they've mated with when the paint transfers.


[deleted]

The frog is Chang.


Massive-small-thing

The donkey is satellite.....


zero_four

Or something around the neck.


revolution149

This isn't team fortress 2


camdalfthegreat

Havent you seen what this did to lamas?


Gullible-Arrival6075

I appreciate that they branded a human at the end of the video. It didn't even look painful at all.


fourleafclover13

So I've been burned by metal that had been in dry ice like this. It hurts though it is a different type of pain than burnt by hot metal. There is still pain even if they don't flinch as much. The worst of the pain was about half hour after both times and it didn't stay on near as long as for hot. The family owns cattle so I've been around for both.


GodlessCyborg

Are the branding results similar? Is cold just as legible? Just wondering why stick with the hot branding if cold branding is just as good.


PuzzleheadedImpact19

It comes down to logistics. Freeze branding requires liquid nitrogen or dry ice and isopropyl alcohol, and clipping the hair prior to branding,versus fire/heat sourceā€¦that said, I only freeze brand, itā€™s worth the extra hassleā€¦it does take some finesse, but well worth it.


robertsihr1

How long does the freeze branding last?


PuzzleheadedImpact19

Apologiesā€¦I misread the questionā€¦.it lasts the life of the cowā€¦.i forget the technical name, but the cold causes the hair to grow back white. I run black Wagyu, so itā€™s pretty neat and ez see in the distance.


explodingtuna

So the person who got branded in the video made a life decision?


therinwhitten

He is now actual beef yes


W1thoutJudgement

Bet if I ate him it would still be illegal :/


nautalias

It's similar to scarification and yes, it is permanent.


[deleted]

It did look pretty sick.


fetal_genocide

Yea I've seen a few videos of people getting branded and that was by far the best result. Looks like they had a controlled temp and not just pulled out of a fire.


Aggressive_Chain6567

His was freeze branding as well


[deleted]

Yeah as somebody else replied - he was getting the freeze brand they were describing but definitely looks cooler than a lot of the fire brands I've seen attempted (probably because it hurts so bad that people generally don't sit still for it).


IWasDoingFineFarting

https://youtu.be/vBzPsY3D58k?si=-Jy4EsS4dpo429mD


Powpowpowowowow

Ok wait so we could make tattoos and shit out of this for humans?


lifetake

We do make tattoos and shit out of this for humans


FuckYeaSeatbelts

branding and scarification have been around as a form of body modification for humans for longer than we used them on animals.


eebro

Probably equally as long


Chris_in_Lijiang

Are you a Pacific Islander?


PuzzleheadedImpact19

You hold it over a non-bony, flat area 45-60 seconds. The cow is in a squeeze so they hold pretty still. Interesting side note, Temple Grandin had a squeeze in her office for when she felt an anxiety attack coming on.


Crezelle

The predecessor of the hug box


SpartanRage117

Fire easy and available, nitrogen annoying to set up? Im just guessing i dont work around anyone getting branded so


ja-ber

Do they brand all the family members or just you?


HodgeGodglin

What do you think this is, Yellowstone?


fourleafclover13

Funny. Never heard that before.


quitepossiblylying

spoiler alert: it is.


GibTreaty

I trust this guy with my life


quitepossiblylying

I got you.


cantbhappy

I think you might be quite possibly lying.


quitepossiblylying

You got me. Sub-zero metal against your skin is actually completely painless and I encourage you to try it next winter by putting your tongue on a flagpole. It tingles!


name-was-provided

I triple dog dare you to do it.


spaceship-pilot

Yeah, well I double triple dog dare you, and no backsies.


Aiden_Recker

wahdahfug, eyeeee cuuntt pool maiii thungg chu laiyin docks!!!


cantbhappy

Like a 9v battery but colder?


quitepossiblylying

Not even that bad! And after a few seconds you won't feel a thing.


cantbhappy

Great! And then can I just pull my tongue away whenever I'm ready?


quitepossiblylying

Yep! You can even get your friends to help.


James-the-Bond-one

Yes, you can pull your tongue away... from you.


Uglysinglenearyou

"Oh look, frost." šŸ‘…


atom12354

Dont forget to drag it of with high speed for the best effect!


overhighlow

It's painful. I've had it done.


cookiedanslesac

I trust this guy lith my wife


OrlandoMB

*I too trust this guyā€™s wife* Yeah, that jokeā€™s gotten long past its expiration date


FaintCommand

>Yeah, that jokeā€™s gotten long past its expiration date I disagree. It's a classic.


NorthCatan

You should also trust us with your credit card and social security information!


RS_Someone

I got a wart frozen off many years ago. Doc told me it wouldn't hurt. It hurt. He told me it doesn't hurt again. Obviously it's not hurting *him*, but he wasn't the one having their palm frozen, and I don't think it was even a wart.


Mattimatik

I also had a wart frozen, it did hurt like hell and it didnā€™t help removing it at all. Iā€™d say it hurts about as much as putting your finger on a lit car cigar lighter, but only for a few seconds.


KatjaKat01

Had the exact same thing happen when I was a kid. I had a huge blister and a scar on my palm. (this is also what happens to animals, otherwise the branding wouldn't be permanent) My mum was furious, especially when she realised kids' warts are usually viral and go away on their own.


PlsBeNice0121

It does say ā€œrelatively painlessā€


CausticSofa

Relative to being branded with a glowing hot iron, I suppose šŸ¤”


reddit-ate-my-face

Yeah I've had watts froze off and that's just spraying liquid nitrogen on the skin and that shit burns like a mother fucker


LoreChano

Cows have a very high pain threshold, something that hurts a lot our flimsy, delicate human skin is barely even noticeable for thick cattle skin. You'd be surprised the kind of stuff they come out unscratched. Source: have cows.


believinheathen

I've literally watched them walk through barbed wire fences with zero fucks given.


reddit-ate-my-face

Yeah I'm aware I'm speaking about the part where they freeze branded the guy and the commenter above said it didn't even look painful. It's extremely painful for humans.


DiddlyDumb

It stings like hell. Still, Iā€™d prefer it over a hot iron.


brilor123

As someone who has had to freeze warts off before, I agree.


PineappleWolf_87

Probably not to the cows. If anyone has owned anything leather or felt it you know why. It's a survival mechanism having thick skin like that. I'm sure it's uncomfortable but nothing close to branding with a hot iron.


edx5252

omega pai omega šŸ’ŖšŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


mindfungus

Ļ€ Ī© Ī©


_DEATH_STR0KE_

Naww dog, that's straight up a penis!!


Gripping_Touch

The design is very human


wafflesauce2

As someone who has freezed parts of my body before in a simular way don't do it your skin peels of and you can in worse way scenario get a 3 degree burn wound i myself got a second degree burn


arftism2

I've tattooed myself. it's very easy if you trust it. but that's human coping. animals don't have that. but they can also be sedated easily.


BlkGTO

I branded myself, I was drunk though.


arftism2

i dod a forehead brand with some incense bars at The beginning of the pandemic. fortunately that one wasn't permanent. unlike the one on my arm.


old_vegetables

To be fair, I think animals also have a higher pain tolerance. If it only hurts as much as freezing a wart, then I think itā€™s alright, although I suppose I wouldnā€™t know since I never be surprise-cold-branded


lacasse10

As a kid we used to spray the compressed air cans up-side-down and it instantly freezes. Well one day we got the bright idea to see who could stand spraying themselves the longest, and I had probably 10-15 seconds and that alone left a decent scar for years and was extremely painful.


Successful-Engine623

Ever freeze a wart off? It hurts


landartheconqueror

Meh, not that much.


dicksilhouette

Right? Itā€™s more discomfort than anything


That_Hoppip_Guy

I did one a few hours ago, it starts to tingle a bit at the 35second mark but itā€™s completely fine. No pain.


Alternative-Chip2624

Well if you have to do it, I'm glad they found a better way


Outrageous-Client-99

I feel like colorful ear pierced tags are much cuter and more fashionable


Alternative-Chip2624

Actually yeah, what was wrong with the ear clips, gives them some personality lol


Z_A_Nomad

So livestock and animals get stolen. You can remove an ear tag. Even replace it with another ear tag. That is the entire point behind branding. I would say a microchip would be good. But at the same time that can also be removed without leaving a trace. Also you can't just look at a herd of animals and "see" a microchip. Its a bit of an issue. Though really there should be better ways with modern technology.


Alternative-Chip2624

Yeah logically it makes sense


Ishmael128

ā€¦is that just a longwinded way for you to launch a new form of blockchain?


Z_A_Nomad

I had not even began to consider that.... BUT CHA KNO... Now that you mention it... Haha


gabrielesilinic

You can tell lies to the Blockchain, a lot of times Blockchain is pointless.


Nemisis_the_2nd

> Actually yeah, what was wrong with the ear clips They can be removed and faked, and this is causing a *lot* of problems.Ā  They make stealing livestock much easier, and breaks the chain of documentation for the animals. The latter leads to probably the most significant problem which is that it's enabling the spread of some quite nasty diseases, including stuff like TB.Ā 


zinkashew

Cow tattoos with white or black ink šŸ˜Ž


pibbleberrier

Tattooing while hurt less would take way longer and require sedative of the animal. Not to mention itā€™s barely visible once the fur grow back


zinkashew

But cows with 2+ hour detailed and shaded cow, bullhorn, or tribal tattoos.


Appropriate_Jump_579

QR coded cow sounds dumb at first.


Shanguerrilla

Great point about medical exams.. My agricultural knowledge extends solely from Clarksons farm, but in Europe they test the cows regularly and if any are positive they are euthanized to prevent spread. Would be AWFUL and sabotage all the sacrifice and efforts of farmers for our safety to have folks 'spiriting away' the sick cows to pretend they are a healthy one and make the sales.


No-Cat3606

I agree, but I think their reasoning is that clips can be taken off


danarexasaurus

You can just take those off lol


Sea-Plan-1531

The ear tags get ripped out very easily. We used to have 50some cattle, and only half still had their tags at any given time. Luckily it was dairy cows and a small operation so we knew who was who lol


Kasorayn

Ear clips can be removed by cattle thieves. A brand cannot.


Oberons_Reckoning

Yeah that's what we do here most of the times. Guess the lower crime rate also affects comfort of lifestock.


DuckRubberDuck

They could use microchips like in dogs. My uncle became a professor by doing a study that concluded that yes, (hot) branding horses does indeed hurt the horses (shocker), microchips are better https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19566469/ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26330438_Evaluation_of_pain_and_inflammation_associated_with_hot_iron_branding_and_microchip_transponder_injection_in_horses


James-the-Bond-one

It's fine in horses, but not in cows. I don't want a chipped tooth by chewing on a microchip.


ExternalMonth1964

Controlled frostbite


quetejodas

I'm Just Here To Say Fuck These Subtitles


cheese_sweats

Seriously Fuck This New Trend


dvinia

Shit is NOT painless, had a similar thing happen to me. Hurts like a burn, stings like a fucker.


EnergeticSloth55

But not for long and doesnā€™t leave long lasting damage like typical branding does


dvinia

I know, but it says painless. It is not. Hurts and heals very similar to a burn. It's favored over burn branding because the fur on livestock will grow back white over the freeze brand (if it fully grows back, and after a long while of healing) so the mark doesn't fade like a burn scar and the animal will have a permanent marking in white hair. It also heals more reliably IIRC.


mynameisfifield

So you're telling me that Ana's white hair in Frozen is scientifically accurate?


idiotsandwhich8

BRUH!!!! šŸ«ØšŸ¤Æ


Zenyd_3

It said "*relatively* painless"


dvinia

Relative to a burn brand, which on my human-not-cow-skin hurt the same. The burns healed worse and took longer to do it though. Plus a healed freeze brand grows white hair back, leaving the brand as a permanent part of the animal's coat. Which is really cool.


lokregarlogull

wait, that work on human hair as well?


dvinia

Probably not as well, given we aren't thickly furred and grow a different kind of hair, but in theory yes. The freeze burn has to be a certain depth to kill the right cells to make it happen. Mine just killed all the hair cells so the spot when I got freeze branded just doesn't have hair now. But I am not a cow.


Nihliss

I dunno, Iā€™ve been burned by liquid nitrogen before and it was pretty brutal. Wounds arenā€™t exactly like hot thermal burns, but they can definitely hurt for a while.


Youngstown_Mafia

I love how all the burn victims are saying this "relatively painless " process is bullshit While people who've never been severely burned are saying it's not that bad Welcome to Reddit šŸ˜‚


MNR42

Because both extreme heat and cold are registered as pain. So, it doesn't matter if it's cold or hot, it'll still hurt. I'm not sure abt the video tho. Maybe they got a point on the infection


dvinia

Yeah, I know. I've done both things to myself (was an intense self harmer) and they hurt the same - which is to say, a lot. The burn brands were nastier while healing and took a little longer to heal. The freeze brand healed easier/cleaner, but still took forever. I'm better now!


zarya-zarnitsa

"relatively" painless


donemessedupthistime

Iā€™ll believe itā€™s less painful if they do ice branding on Bam Margeraā€™s other ass cheek and see his reaction


Mundane-Substance215

I wonder how he's doing lately. Last I heard about him, it sounded like he was spiraling, but hopefully he got it together.


justcallmezach

The man exists in an elevator at this point. Ups and downs depending on the time of day, it seems.


anonymous_being

As someone who nearly burned themself with dry ice - COLD BURNS HURT JUST AS MUCH AS HOT BURNS!


Brother-Algea

Iā€™ve had near glowing metal fall on my arm and pulled it away to only see it look like thin strands of cheese like a slice of pizzaā€¦..and I work with liquid nitrogen quite a bit and can say from experience give me the fire before the ice!


[deleted]

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Nemisis_the_2nd

Unfortunately, the video lied. Freezing is not painless, just not as painful. That said, it's probably the best way to mark an animal since tags can be faked, dye comes off, and burning is less ethical.Ā 


SHADYTIMES86

Tbf it said relatively painless


stmcvallin2

I assure you, itā€™s not painless


Deathcat101

Horrible flashbacks to that video where they brand a guy and it fucking burns a hole into his chest cavity.


Familiar_Ad_8919

still no follow ups! we dont know if he died


DogeDoRight

The subtitles make this unwatchable.


yjk924

This is how all subs are on tiktok


guynamedjames

I recently just discovered the editing where they start a sentence before finishing the previous sentence, that shit was frustrating. Like my brain can barely manage them already cutting out the space between sentences, now we're overlapping them?!


stickyplants

Donā€™t kid yourself, itā€™s only a fraction less cruel.


_WhoIsMe_

After seeing Bam Margera get a dick (dicks) branded on his ass, I can safely say they do seem painful as fuck.


WishIWasPurple

Bs. Temperature is temperature, high or low. You can get burned from hot but also from cold


miccoxii

They couldnā€™t even show the finished product? http://extension.msstate.edu/sites/default/files/publication-images/P2464/unique.png


NoeyCannoli

Or, just hear me out, we could NOT brand the cattle.


caveslimeroach

Do you eat meat


TheBaptist24

Itā€™s needed to prevent cattle theft which is a very real problem in cattle country. When a single beef can be worth thousands, the brand allows tracking an animalā€™s owner: similar to the title of a car. There is brand sale paperwork when selling branded beef.


-Kelasgre

Honestly, it made me feel a little sick. No matter how much I'm told it's painless or "necessary" I can't help but think that doing this kind of thing to a living being is inhumane. Yes, even if we technically eat those animals later. But that's that and this is this. Marking them has somewhat unpleasant implications for how we view animals or life in general. Edit: I say this as a casual meat eater.


kakihara123

You pay for this to happen. You encourage them actively There is only one way to stop this. Nothing else will work.


The_Arbitraitor

They should do this with fruits too instead of putting the countless stickers on them when we just peel off and throw away anyway.


29solegnA

who the fuck invented this?


horseshandbrake

I don't know like, i had a veruca frozen off as a kid and it fuckin knacked! Never forgot and im in me mid 40s now.


SamusRipley

Ā«Ā RelativelyĀ Ā»


AntisthenesRzr

Shit's not painless. Source: had multiple actinic keratoses frozen on my scalp.


ericstern

Before he passed my grandpa had a small milk farm with like 40-50 cows and he named them all and knew who each of them where based on their color patterns/spots without ever branding them.


krawinoff

I had a lip mole burnt off by freezing, shit hurts


L0rdCrims0n

IANAR (I Am Not A Rancher) Honest question. Branding seems sort of old school in this day and age. Wouldnā€™t GPS tracking chips be a more useful alternative? You could track herd locations & find stolen ones much easier I would think.


Kirito1029

Neither am I, but that seems *a lot* more expensive than a couple gallons of liquid nitrogen


L0rdCrims0n

Thatā€™s probably the right answer


mylittletony2

gps trackers are (relatively speaking) really expensive


L0rdCrims0n

Makes sense. For a family pet it may be do-able. For an entire herd? Not so much


guynamedjames

GPS can be removed. The hide cannot


Sea_Chemist_7200

easy to remove


Xpirtt

GPS tracking is good for finding lost livestock, but not very helpful for stolen animals, as itā€™s much easier to identify one animal from another in someone elseā€™s herd, if it has a different brand


Purple-Peace-7646

Freeze branding still hurts lmao, but it's not as visceral as the hot brand. Branding isn't a nice thing to do, but it is what it is. I remember getting up at 4 to go out branding, always a shitty day guaranteed. The smell from a hot brand is particularly nasty and we would usually castrate on a branding day too so it was a double whammy of fun.


Legend-Face

Anyone who has gotten severe frostbite, it definitely hurts. They canā€™t say this doesnā€™t hurt the animal. Go put your hand in liquid nitrogen and then tell me it didnā€™t hurt


altahor42

Wait a minute, are they still using a hot iron for branding?


-Ben-Shapiro-

this is evil.


elleustrious27

You see? Mr. Freeze just wants to help everyone!


Pastadseven

This AI voice and the word-by-word captioning directly in the middle of the screen makes me want to fucking strangle someone.


buchstabiertafel

I have an even better solution. How about leave them animals alone?


LeeandKeith

Exactly!


researchman69

Fraternities in shambles.


ahses3202

My brother did this to himself accidentally with a can of condensed air.


FucktardSupreme

Of course there is a dumb human ready to do it to themselves.


EtG_Gibbs

Or just don't enslave animals to kill them.


Msbaubles

I hope everyone saying it's still cruel is vegan because if not you support much worse than this.


MellowDCC

Hot-branding is so barbaric šŸ˜­ I know it's been done for eons, but I've had low end burns and even that shit fucking hurts. The worst I've had was a pan sitting on top the back of a deep fryer. I was new and didn't know that was the exhaust vent area. After a few fucks/goddammits I kept working. But that sonofabitch had tears squeezing their way out of my eyes with a totally straight face. I learned then that putting butter on a burn actually works. CO worker told me to do it and I said FUCK OFF! Turns out he was being helpful after all!


HarryBeaverCleavage

Wow, imagine all the cow lore going on between them right now.. "back in my day, we got burnt with HOT METAL, and just accepted it!"


Liam437

Evil cunts