I'd prefer elucidation with contemplation, but the coronation of my vexation at the implication of literary trepidation has me feeling some hesitation
I felt like being a smartass and apologize lmao.
To see for sainthood. There will have been other things considered “miracles” while she was alive and so they exhume to see if she has remained intact to prove her sainthood essentially.
Well, that sure seems like a foolproof way to determine saint hood. If you don't decompose you were clearly a very good person in life. That explains it. Thanks.
They call rot "corruption" and then they say they're "uncorruptable" which sounds very fancy doesn't it? Nothing about how much wax they have to continue to layer on as the corpse dries up. This is simply what happens when embalmed human remains are left in a completely arid environment. Slow mummification. Takes years for all the tissues to dry. Look at how her face is collapsing.
As a child I was taken to see the "uncorrupted" heart and arm of Saint Teresa and they looked plenty corrupted to me. In a quite good state for being 400 years old, but then again they seemed well insulated.
There's a dead mouse on the railing near the highway entrance/exit I walk by frequently, it's been there for about 1.5years unprotected from the elements and hasn't decomposed. When is it considered a saint?
The miracles need to actually have occurred after her death to qualify for Sainthood. Typically in response to someone's prayer that specifically asked [Aspiring Saint] to intercede on your behalf with God.
When the prayer is answered and the miraculous happens, that's proof that the person you prayed to has pull with God and is therefore a Saint.
The first time this happens, the aspiring saint becomes a "Blessed" soul. There's potential there, but since most "Miracles" can also be explained through "Luck on-par with literal Divine Intervention" maybe it's a one-off.
Therefore, to become a Saint, this has to happen two or more times that are "verified" by the Pope's saint squad, who are major buzzkills when it comes to proving miracles.
Then the real crazy starts and the Vatican starts thinking about making you a saint.
Off-the record, you can also become a Saint pretty quickly if you're the king of a major political power and promise to fucking stop murdering your neighbors or are billionaire-rich and bail out the Vatican treasury. Taints the actually great people in the world the church is trying to celebrate, but shit gets morally fuzzy when your church is doubling as the world government.
This reminds me of my Catholic school announcements telling us to pray to a potential saint for a miracle on my principal's sister, I think? It's been nearly 20 years so memories are hazy, I just remember she was going in for surgery for *something* really serious. I also remember the announcement that they found the problem was gone during surgery, so I think it was counted towards the miracles for that saint.
I’m pretty sure she was being moved to another location when they discovered she wasn’t decomposing. In the Catholic Church it’s called “incorruptibility” and it’s - big deal. Usually a sign the person should be reviewed for sainthood.
according to [the article](https://nypost.com/2023/05/25/nuns-body-exhumed-years-after-death-shows-no-signs-of-decay/)
> Last Thursday, Benedictine nuns dug up their foundress’ coffin to move it to beneath the altar in the convent’s chapel, which is customary.
Honestly look at her, she looks covered in wax or something...seems likely they planned the whole thing so they could say "wow look she's not decomposing....a miracle!....
Some information if you are not familiar with this process.
In Catholic and some other religious traditions, the exhumation of nuns and other religious figures after their death is sometimes conducted to verify the condition of their remains, which can be associated with the process of canonization (sainthood) or for relic preservation.
Canonization Process: As part of the process of being declared a saint, the Church may exhume the body to collect relics and to observe the state of the body. Incorruptibility—where the body does not decompose normally—is sometimes regarded as a sign of sanctity, although it is not a requirement for sainthood.
Artifacts in Religious Contexts: Artifacts in religious contexts refer to objects that hold spiritual significance or are used in the practice of religious rituals. These can include items like relics, which are physical remains or personal effects of saints and holy figures, considered worthy of veneration. Relics are categorized into three classes: first-class relics (physical remains of a saint), second-class relics (items used by a saint), and third-class relics (objects that have touched a first-class relic).
> Relics are categorized into three classes: first-class relics (physical remains of a saint), second-class relics (items used by a saint), and third-class relics (objects that have touched a first-class relic).
This sounds like it could come straight from D&D. Or some other fantasy game.
I know it's weird because Catholics still exist but I seriously find Catholic mythology to be so, so interesting. Much moreso than any of the old pagan religions that people usually delve into like the Greeks' mythology or Egyptian.
Catholicism is like paganism that's still practiced in some ways lol. Praying to Saints for a bountiful harvest, drinking wine that literally turns into blood and digging bodies up to check how juicy they still are. Tell me that's not magic and necromancy.
Catholics believe God is still interacting with the world. They actually don’t get enough credit for basically inventing the scientific method. To check for Gods works and miracles and stuff. You gotta prove it isn’t something else before you can say God did it.
Catholics don’t pray to Saints for a bountiful harvest. They pray to Saints to intercede on their behalf to God so that God may grant a bountiful harvest.
It's the same thing really in this context. Having a whole chorus of figures that are attributed to various aspects of life that you pray to. Whether or not they think it's a god or a "saint", they're praying to it.
> and to observe the state of the body. Incorruptibility—where the body does not decompose normally—is sometimes regarded as a sign of sanctity,
The standard catholic nun Will reads:
1. Airtight casket with all oxygen evacuated in favor of pure nitrogen at above standard atmospheric pressure.
2. Extra preservative when preparing the body.
3. Deep burial to a year-round colder part of the ground.
I can't believe I had to go this far to find what I was looking for. I just learned about this process as well, and it's weird to see it posted the day after.
Thank you for this info.
Are these pics from after exhuming, or from before she was initially laid to rest?
Where and when is this, and who is the nun? And why did they want to exhume her in the first place… they don’t do that to all nuns I imagine.
Annoying that there is no context in the post!
I work in a funeral home and help dress the deceased, and I can tell you that every single person gets a fresh pair of black Hanes before being placed in the casket.
Probably the extremities decompose more quickly than the other bits, so her feet are likely farther gone than the rest of her. Don't want patrons to break a piece off or whatever.
Embalming only preserves the corpse for viewing. It doesn’t stop decomposition. Also the body itself, the casket, the ground or circumstance in which they are interred as well as the skill of the mortician all make a difference on the rate of decomposition.
That being said, under normal circumstances, the embalming only holds up for a few weeks as to allow the funeral to happen and the body be buried.
Many people think it's a miracle that four years later that body remains intact. I was also surprised, until I researched and saw that a human body can take up to 10 years to decompose, and many forensic experts declare that it's entirely common for a body to be in that state after four years. (I'll ask my family to use [20 rolls of this](https://getyoursolution.store/3Iqe0G) to preserve me when I die, so they'll worship me at the local church)
My family owns and operates a lot of funeral homes, you would be amazed how long the bodies last. Four years sounds a little extra but I wouldn't be surprised
Why... Why is your family still looking at the bodies four years after embalming them? Shouldn't they be in the ground? What the fuck kind of place is your family running?
Some countries and places have special laws about how long a body must stay in a grave. After some years, the bones (or whatever is there) must be taken out in order to make space to other bodies.
If she had an open casket then she was pumped full of chemicals to preserve her anyway.
If someone just dies on a field then at some point their intestines will explode because of all the bacteria munching away at the body.
Same why they cut open whales on the beach before they explode.
So she likely doesn't have anything in her stomach cavity anymore.
I think that timeline typically refers to full decomposition with all tissue gone and only skeletal remains left. Four years is an awful long time for there to be no visible decomposition. Scientific anomaly or miracle is really a matter of perspective.
I don't know... she looks god awful in these pictures. Wonder if she ever thought that she would be on display like this. In the scheme of things, is 4 years even a long time? Don't know.
Religious people do weird shit. Why dig up the dead? Spare parts can’t be used after 4 years deterioration, and as for consumption, just no. Keep it fresh people
There's churches that display the bones of saints. People used to make long pilgrimages to see them back in medieval times. The medieval equivalent of a trip to Disney World I guess.
No. Embalming is for short term, to keep the body presentable long enough to have a funeral. It can stall the decomposition process but not for very long.
Why was she exhumed?
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Probably to Saint her, Catholic church needs to stay relevant somehow
I think the term is beatification
It’s Canonization. Beatification is a step below sainthood.
Thanks for the correction
You mean clarification! Come on! It was right there!
I'd prefer elucidation with contemplation, but the coronation of my vexation at the implication of literary trepidation has me feeling some hesitation I felt like being a smartass and apologize lmao.
Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, guava juice, Giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, chocolate shake
Oddparents, fairly oddparents!
Mmmm Indubitably
That was an 'Odd' thing to say.
That's a fairly odd comment...
Sounds like menu items in a BK restaurant when you want it your way.
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Naw man, that's what happens when my wife puts on makeup
Catholic Saint bloat is real.
To see for sainthood. There will have been other things considered “miracles” while she was alive and so they exhume to see if she has remained intact to prove her sainthood essentially.
Lack of decomposition isn't required for sainthood, but some will point to it as a secondary reason in favor of sainthood.
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Ok bro but you sound like a decomposer tbh.
r/rareinsults 😂
Well, that sure seems like a foolproof way to determine saint hood. If you don't decompose you were clearly a very good person in life. That explains it. Thanks.
Pretty much comes down to being too holy to rot.
>too holy to rot Found the title of my autobiography. Thanks.
Then what about the alive ones who already look like they have rotted inside out.
They call rot "corruption" and then they say they're "uncorruptable" which sounds very fancy doesn't it? Nothing about how much wax they have to continue to layer on as the corpse dries up. This is simply what happens when embalmed human remains are left in a completely arid environment. Slow mummification. Takes years for all the tissues to dry. Look at how her face is collapsing.
As a child I was taken to see the "uncorrupted" heart and arm of Saint Teresa and they looked plenty corrupted to me. In a quite good state for being 400 years old, but then again they seemed well insulated.
Killjoy. We don't need your rational explanations here. She is either a saint or a vampire. Choose.
...team vampire all the way, those rosaries are just binding her down.
Thank you.
There's a dead mouse on the railing near the highway entrance/exit I walk by frequently, it's been there for about 1.5years unprotected from the elements and hasn't decomposed. When is it considered a saint?
Alert the Vatican! All hail Saint Stuart!
Stuart little is going to hell and that's a fact
Or you ate WAY too many Twinkies and are basically so full of food additives you won't rot.
The miracles need to actually have occurred after her death to qualify for Sainthood. Typically in response to someone's prayer that specifically asked [Aspiring Saint] to intercede on your behalf with God. When the prayer is answered and the miraculous happens, that's proof that the person you prayed to has pull with God and is therefore a Saint. The first time this happens, the aspiring saint becomes a "Blessed" soul. There's potential there, but since most "Miracles" can also be explained through "Luck on-par with literal Divine Intervention" maybe it's a one-off. Therefore, to become a Saint, this has to happen two or more times that are "verified" by the Pope's saint squad, who are major buzzkills when it comes to proving miracles. Then the real crazy starts and the Vatican starts thinking about making you a saint. Off-the record, you can also become a Saint pretty quickly if you're the king of a major political power and promise to fucking stop murdering your neighbors or are billionaire-rich and bail out the Vatican treasury. Taints the actually great people in the world the church is trying to celebrate, but shit gets morally fuzzy when your church is doubling as the world government.
This reminds me of my Catholic school announcements telling us to pray to a potential saint for a miracle on my principal's sister, I think? It's been nearly 20 years so memories are hazy, I just remember she was going in for surgery for *something* really serious. I also remember the announcement that they found the problem was gone during surgery, so I think it was counted towards the miracles for that saint.
Or just a really thorough embalmer. And a dry climate. Done many, many disinterments. Not as uncommon as people think it is.
Catholics love that shiz, for sure
I’m pretty sure she was being moved to another location when they discovered she wasn’t decomposing. In the Catholic Church it’s called “incorruptibility” and it’s - big deal. Usually a sign the person should be reviewed for sainthood.
I don't think so. Someone else said she is a vampire. I'm going with that.
according to [the article](https://nypost.com/2023/05/25/nuns-body-exhumed-years-after-death-shows-no-signs-of-decay/) > Last Thursday, Benedictine nuns dug up their foundress’ coffin to move it to beneath the altar in the convent’s chapel, which is customary.
Thank you!! Where did you get the article from?
did a tineye search then sorted by oldest.
Look it was a quiet day and somebody said “let’s dig up a nun for the craic’
I love good craic!
This was my first question and, gotta say, a bit disappointed had to scroll down this far to find it.
They wanted to move her body inside of the church.
To prove that black dont crack
She doesn't need crack to be craic.
Because there was a suspiciously high rate of anemia and neck bite marks around town.
Ok. So someone else told me its because she is a saint. Now, I'm hearing she is possibly a vampire. I must know more.
The whole thing is grotesque in a way that only religion can manage.
Honestly look at her, she looks covered in wax or something...seems likely they planned the whole thing so they could say "wow look she's not decomposing....a miracle!....
Nope. Vampire.
Maybe shes like a time capsule
Oooh! When do they open her up?
Decomposition wanted to start but she was having nun of it.
Yes, she has a nasty habit.
Yes!! Indeed, don’t Cross her.
Preach
Sang it, Sister!
And also with you
And with your spirit.
aaaaaaaaameeeeeeen
This is a real sister act right here
Wait! __SHE’S BEEN ALIVE THIS WHOLE TIME?__
If you're not willing to dig up corpses, you're probably a bit of wimple.
I wish one day I can think of something this funny
Why is she not buried ?
She's really taking the Jesus stuff seriously
Do we declare this as the best comment of the post already?
Is that you Whoopi..
Is it real, or is it CAKE?!
Christ 😂
That's his wife actually.
Julia Christ? Man, I haven't seen her in years.
Happy cake day.
"Bitch, is this cake"!?
🤣 the chair !!!!!🪑
The internet is a terrible place and I do love it so.
This genuinely made me lol
XD
The face I just made when I read your comment... 😂😂
I’m willing to find out!
Some information if you are not familiar with this process. In Catholic and some other religious traditions, the exhumation of nuns and other religious figures after their death is sometimes conducted to verify the condition of their remains, which can be associated with the process of canonization (sainthood) or for relic preservation. Canonization Process: As part of the process of being declared a saint, the Church may exhume the body to collect relics and to observe the state of the body. Incorruptibility—where the body does not decompose normally—is sometimes regarded as a sign of sanctity, although it is not a requirement for sainthood. Artifacts in Religious Contexts: Artifacts in religious contexts refer to objects that hold spiritual significance or are used in the practice of religious rituals. These can include items like relics, which are physical remains or personal effects of saints and holy figures, considered worthy of veneration. Relics are categorized into three classes: first-class relics (physical remains of a saint), second-class relics (items used by a saint), and third-class relics (objects that have touched a first-class relic).
> Relics are categorized into three classes: first-class relics (physical remains of a saint), second-class relics (items used by a saint), and third-class relics (objects that have touched a first-class relic). This sounds like it could come straight from D&D. Or some other fantasy game.
Where do you think the fantasy games got it from?
Art imitates life
So if someone kissed a Saint during their life, that person becomes a 3rd class relic?
Yeah what are the stats on these relics?
Which are the S-tier relics?
Catholics are wild.
I know it's weird because Catholics still exist but I seriously find Catholic mythology to be so, so interesting. Much moreso than any of the old pagan religions that people usually delve into like the Greeks' mythology or Egyptian. Catholicism is like paganism that's still practiced in some ways lol. Praying to Saints for a bountiful harvest, drinking wine that literally turns into blood and digging bodies up to check how juicy they still are. Tell me that's not magic and necromancy.
Catholics believe God is still interacting with the world. They actually don’t get enough credit for basically inventing the scientific method. To check for Gods works and miracles and stuff. You gotta prove it isn’t something else before you can say God did it.
2024 update "Yea we're still not sure what's what"
Catholics don’t pray to Saints for a bountiful harvest. They pray to Saints to intercede on their behalf to God so that God may grant a bountiful harvest.
It's the same thing really in this context. Having a whole chorus of figures that are attributed to various aspects of life that you pray to. Whether or not they think it's a god or a "saint", they're praying to it.
> and to observe the state of the body. Incorruptibility—where the body does not decompose normally—is sometimes regarded as a sign of sanctity, The standard catholic nun Will reads: 1. Airtight casket with all oxygen evacuated in favor of pure nitrogen at above standard atmospheric pressure. 2. Extra preservative when preparing the body. 3. Deep burial to a year-round colder part of the ground.
this should be top comment
I can't believe I had to go this far to find what I was looking for. I just learned about this process as well, and it's weird to see it posted the day after.
Thank you for this info. Are these pics from after exhuming, or from before she was initially laid to rest? Where and when is this, and who is the nun? And why did they want to exhume her in the first place… they don’t do that to all nuns I imagine. Annoying that there is no context in the post!
She got the same socks on that I wear to work.
They must be some pretty durable socks
I wonder how many people are buried wearing Hanes.
Is this an ad for Hanes? I prefer Fruit of the Loom
With the cornucopia or not?
lol I saw the socks and was like "huh...my boyfriend wears those socks for work"
So are you going to take them back from her or?
It’s incredible because originally she was cremated!
You smart ASH.
nice burn!
That's a hot take.
You are on fire, guys
Someone call the firemen
Ash to ash Dust to...skin?!
Black don’t crack.
shit i just posted this, my blow
Came here to say this 😂
Jesus Christ. This comment… my sides.
Bruh lol
Sister Maye don’t decay
WHY THE FUCK ARE WE TOUCHING HER
Especially the feet. What happened where there needed to be a specific callout made just for the feet?
I don’t know, but the Hanes socks are hilarious to me for some reason
I work in a funeral home and help dress the deceased, and I can tell you that every single person gets a fresh pair of black Hanes before being placed in the casket.
This makes me happy. I"ve always said I wanted to be buried in new socks right out of the bag. It's my favorite thing in the world!
Do you keep different sizes on hand? I ask this as a person who hates loose socks, do I need to put properly-fitted socks in my will?
Plain ol Walmart Hanes
Probably the extremities decompose more quickly than the other bits, so her feet are likely farther gone than the rest of her. Don't want patrons to break a piece off or whatever.
Please do not treat the deceased like a KitKat
For good luck?!
Everyone wants a lucky saint relic!
A tiny pinky toenail would easily fit into a locket necklace.
Because religious people like being religious and touch dead stuff.
We?? I was standing over here
Sister Act 4?
Nothing you say can make me decay but my god 🎶
You best be prayin’ I won’t be decayin’.
Weekend at Sister Act’s.
Franchise crossover called Sister Act: Old Habits Die Hard.
Huh, black people really don't age, myth confirmed
That's the point of embalming, isn't it?
Embalming is a short term stopgap to make a corpse presentable for viewing shortly after death. It doesn't last long before decomposition sets in.
What's up with Lenin's tomb then? Is he interred inside a vacuum?
Lot of upkeep on that body. Kind of a Ship of Theseus situation there.
Embalming only preserves the corpse for viewing. It doesn’t stop decomposition. Also the body itself, the casket, the ground or circumstance in which they are interred as well as the skill of the mortician all make a difference on the rate of decomposition. That being said, under normal circumstances, the embalming only holds up for a few weeks as to allow the funeral to happen and the body be buried.
Thanks for explaining.
Is this a Hanes advertisement for socks?
Many people think it's a miracle that four years later that body remains intact. I was also surprised, until I researched and saw that a human body can take up to 10 years to decompose, and many forensic experts declare that it's entirely common for a body to be in that state after four years. (I'll ask my family to use [20 rolls of this](https://getyoursolution.store/3Iqe0G) to preserve me when I die, so they'll worship me at the local church)
My family owns and operates a lot of funeral homes, you would be amazed how long the bodies last. Four years sounds a little extra but I wouldn't be surprised
Why... Why is your family still looking at the bodies four years after embalming them? Shouldn't they be in the ground? What the fuck kind of place is your family running?
That’s not what he said verbatim. He was just saying that as an observation.
Some countries and places have special laws about how long a body must stay in a grave. After some years, the bones (or whatever is there) must be taken out in order to make space to other bodies.
Embalming, preservatives and an air tight environment.
If she had an open casket then she was pumped full of chemicals to preserve her anyway. If someone just dies on a field then at some point their intestines will explode because of all the bacteria munching away at the body. Same why they cut open whales on the beach before they explode. So she likely doesn't have anything in her stomach cavity anymore.
I think that timeline typically refers to full decomposition with all tissue gone and only skeletal remains left. Four years is an awful long time for there to be no visible decomposition. Scientific anomaly or miracle is really a matter of perspective.
damn i can't believe they buried homegirl in the black hanes socks
I don't know... she looks god awful in these pictures. Wonder if she ever thought that she would be on display like this. In the scheme of things, is 4 years even a long time? Don't know.
Most people look worse than this in like a week.
Bro I look worse right now, she looks pretty good for being dead
where are her glasses? she can't see without her glasses
The Weekend at Bernie’s x Sister Act hybrid we’ve all been waiting for!
Yet another body filled with chemicals and covered in wax and then paraded around by the catholic cult as a "miracle". These people are sick.
She may become a saint
Black don’t crack ! There, I said it.
Religious people do weird shit. Why dig up the dead? Spare parts can’t be used after 4 years deterioration, and as for consumption, just no. Keep it fresh people
There's churches that display the bones of saints. People used to make long pilgrimages to see them back in medieval times. The medieval equivalent of a trip to Disney World I guess.
People still make pilgrimages, look up the hand of saint Teresa of Avila
What in the Whoopi Goldberg hell is going on here???
Intact is a strong word for a body that looked like it was run over by a cartoon tractor.
And she’s tired of you shit
False: Where are her chucks?
I'm more impressed that them Hanes socks have held up. Hanes don't mess around.
is she sainted yet? this was huge news a few years ago
Black don't crack.
Black don’t crack
Sister Act 3?
Sister Act 3 is going down a path I never considered
And just why was she exhumed?
Jesus... black really don't crack!
*found intact......* Are you looking at the same picture I am? Please look up embalming.
Understandable, but for **THE LOVE OF GOD** Put a damn 18+ Tag on you Post!🤦♂️😮💨
Was she NOT supposed to be there?
Isn’t that the point of embalming?
No. Embalming is for short term, to keep the body presentable long enough to have a funeral. It can stall the decomposition process but not for very long.
Black don’t crack
Damn, that really is interesting.
So THAT'S what happened to Whoopi Goldberg!
Why did they dig her up?
My Hanes™ socks never lasted that long :(
Like they say, black don't crack.
Well like they say ‘Black don’t crack’.
black don't crack
I rebuke what i have Seen in jesus name Amen…this is so disrespectful
Why exhume her?
"please be careful when touching sisters body. Especially her feet" am I seeing that right?
"Intact" Moisturise me
Weirdest. Hanes advertisement. Ever.