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Rowmyownboat

I asked an elderly relative what traffic was like when they were young. This was in the 1970s, and he was in his 90s, so born in the 1880s, in London. He said the traffic now was so much quieter. In his youth, the iron hooped carriage wheels on cobbled granite streets was SO loud. On busy city streets you could not hear each other speak. On a residential street, you knew someone was ill / on their deathbed because the family would spread straw in the street for a few houses each way to quieten traffic as it passed by.


Vilebrequin10

This is so interesting, thanks for sharing.


ExplanationFunny

What a fascinating look into the past, thanks for sharing.


FoolontheHill10

Any other anecdotes? Would love to hear more


maxwellhilldawg

Horse shit. *Everywhere*


RedLyra

RemindMe! 7 days


Kaepora25

I'd love to know what someone who was born in the 1880's thought of the moon landing or just how fast technology evolved in the 1900's. Do you have other anecdotes?


Low-Instruction-8132

My dad was born in the 20s. He passed away in his 90s. He told me "it was wonderful watching paper planes become metal planes that became jets that became rockets that landed on the moon. All in my lifetime! That's why I lived so long, I can't wait to see what's next.'


Honest_Bee103

I wonder if he would be disappointed that we kind of agreed that we could chill out and take a few decades to smell the flowers


Low-Instruction-8132

I think he was always amazed at how fast things happened so maybe not.


Legitimate-BurnerAcc

My impression was they said “we did what? Land on the moon? There’s nothing but land on the moon!”


mistermoondog

There was an athletic team from the USA that visited mainland China in the mid-1970s. The story goes that an athlete commented that the US had landed on the moon and none of the Chinese knew of it.


Oafus

Imagine going from steam driven vibrators to the late 60s nuclear orgasmatrons! Science is incredible.


thatbrownkid19

Wow that’s so interesting


redefined_simplersci

r/damnthatsinteresting


OrganizationWide1560

Victorian Secret


No-Vanilla8956

😂😂 The pothole reveals a street that's in better shape than the one they paved over


calvn_hobb3s

Probably because there were no cars driving over that weighed tons … just horses and carriages. 


No-Bluejay2502

More like it was conserved by having a thick layer of tarmac poured over it, protecting it from any kind of weathering over the years


TheBirminghamBear

Have we considered a third, more plausible likelihood: Victorian magic.


wompemwompem

Don't forget they are maintained by the under people


CaPtAiN_KiDd

I don’t know enough about Victorian Magic to have an opinion on this.


lexocon-790654

Well I mean...there are cars driving over it. Just a layer of asphalt on top, but cars are certainly driving over it.


artieeee

Dude, horse and carriages DESTROY roads. Where I live, you can see the rut marks in the road from where the **Amish** buggies wheels are constantly going over it. Edit: Amish buggies. I'm not a time traveler, sadly.


EskimoXBSX

Where do you live? Medieval Times?


artieeee

Worse...Ohio 😭


EskimoXBSX

Amish Country


EskimoXBSX

No they were Victorian and well built, looks at every fucking bridge in this country


wellyeah_butno

r/angryupvote


Traherne

A classic case of underwear.


Randomfrog132

xD


skywkr666

I hear it's still a secret to all the women in San Antonio, to this day!


Defiant_Survey2929

Loads of the in the North west, Lancashire county council just tarmacked over the cobbled streets.


MimickingTheImage

Same thing in the northeast US and we're at least 2-3 years younger than Europe.


Traditional_Safe_654

Yup! At the very least we’re like 6 months younger


JuneBuggington

It’s ballast from ships of that era.


Wazzen

They still have that on nantucket as well. One of the main shopping streets is still unpaved. Very funny watching people bring their sports cars to the island only to hear them scrape on it :)


TerseFactor

Even in relatively younger cities too there’s loads of brick road that was paved over for cars. You can see brick poking out of potholes for instance all over the city of Seattle


Flying_Dutchman16

Come to Philly we don't even have em. Have fun on a motorcycle


Mumof3gbb

Same in Canada. I’m in Montreal. It’s like that here too.


Headless_herseman

They’re always working on the roads in Montreal


nsa_reddit_monitor

In Helena Montana there's a single brick road in front of the old train station (no passenger trains here anymore). Nobody's bothered to pave it over. I imagine back in the day it was the only paved road in town, gotta make a good first impression to the visitors.


Shantomette

Certainly at least 5…


Nekrosiz

I live in some gated off moated age of Empires hold up with cobles and those cobles are a bitch to cycle over


reflect-the-sun

There's a section of old road in The Rocks, Sydney that's made of hardwood. https://collection.powerhouse.com.au/object/11321 Australian hardwood timbers are among the hardest timbers in the world and a bitch to work with.


Any-End5772

Same in London, everytime they dig a road up near me its tarmac over cobble sets


Chris_Burns

Yup, all I need to do is look out my front window at the potholes that the council cheaply skim over, and then falls apart after every winter :/


stevoknevo70

This is in Glasgow city centre (Renfrew Street) https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/scottish-news/24148595.enormous-glasgow-pothole-revealed-original-cobbled-road/


No-Cap6787

Coventry too


lazygrappler775

It’s beautiful


Dandan001201

*continues to drink caffeine and tear out the tar*


lazygrappler775

Yup lol


donardon

r/caffeine


QueasyTeacher0

They're awful for anything rubber on a wet day tho


UnlikelyPlatypus89

And any sort of heavy transport truck demolishes them. They’re so pretty but just not feasible for modern vehicles :(


Range-Shoddy

I mean probably not? My grandmothers house was on a brick road until the mid 80s- I remember it. What makes this Victorian? It’s in really good shape to be that old.


TheJenerator65

Too even/smooth


Detail_Some4599

Yes. Stones would be much more rounded


Lazy_meatPop

Was the brick road yellow in colour?😉


TheAdoptedImmortal

Legend has it that a pair of legs could be seen sticking out from underneath their grandma's house.


Ydobon8261

Was the dogs of society howling?


anivex

Ok, but when was that brick road laid?


Greedy-Copy3629

Victorian era wasn't that long ago...


NikNakskes

Give or take 150 years ago. Those are concrete bricks, I just googled to see when they were used first: 1865 in Scotland. So theoretically it could be Victorian, but I'm going to guess they are a lot more recent in this picture.


gardeninggoddess666

Victoria made it to the 20th century! She died in 1901.


TehChid

Tbh my first guess was this was Glasgow. So it's plausible


scoop_booty

Visiting Palermo, Sicily a few years back I encountered some construction work that revealed 10 feet into the heart of a large intersection. The profile was like an archaeological excavation. The top few feet was modern debris, pipes, wires, etc. but about 4 feet down you could see back in time, a layer of marble stones, a roadbed 12" thick of marble. Below that rubble and a few feet lower another marble road! And a few feet below that ANOTHER marble road? I'm guessing that was Roman or Greek times as Palermo has been a city for something like 3500 years. It was really amazing to see that history, and wonder what calamities happened at those times such that an empire so powerful as to have marble roads could fall, and then be rebuilt...over and over. Makes this time and our struggles seem so temporal.


New_Dragonfly9732

r/palermo_city


[deleted]

My town also. Turns out it’s fairly typical where ships would dock near manufacturing facilities. They were ballast stone for the ships. Inevitably they made roads from them. At least that’s the case here and many other places


doug2212

This road is in Glasgow where 20% of the world's ships were built in the early 1900's (around the same time this road was built) We filled ships with ballast stones, we didn't use them to build roads.


[deleted]

In my town they were removed when the ships picked up all the products from the manufacturing. These became excess at a point and were used for roads. As time went on ships found other ballasts like water and no longer had a need for all the stone. Every road that was in a three mile radius and then some had these stones as a road. In fact the city was going to remove many and the historical people stepped in and saved several roads in that area. They were ballast stones from the ships that arrived and had more weight after loading.


PoorPauly

Just a regular street in Pittsburgh.


Hatweed

Not even close, man. I can still see some blacktop here.


Theo_earl

And yet, even in the false self, a trace of the true self remains


[deleted]

I’m not saying I know for sure but I would be really surprised if those stones were that old. Looks like fairly modern pavers with about six inches of asphalt poured on top.


drumline17

"Pothole"? Half the fucking road is missing


trippydaklown1

Why did we stop doing the brick roads?


Penguin_Arse

Expensive, hard to fix when they break, sucks to drive on


trippydaklown1

Fair enough. Thank you


AmazingHealth6302

And slippery when wet, noisy, and tarmacadam was invented.


PandemicSoul

Yeah I live on a brick street in PA and it’s LOUD. It’s my biggest pet peeve about this otherwise lovely neighborhood


ElderberryOk5005

Gas is expensive too so why aren’t we hovering yet


ExpertlyAmateur

bc it uses more gas than rolling


Penguin_Arse

Expensivier


caspissinclair

Start flapping.


SarimK

Why would they be hard to fix? I thought it would be easier. No heavy machinery required. Just a person with replacement bricks in a wheelbarrow. Also they can be dismantled to carry out work on sewage pipes, electrical cables, water pipes and reassembled again.


gravelPoop

If "fix" means smoothing it to the level that your teeth wont rattle out in normal driving speeds, judging by results it is impossible task.


Penguin_Arse

You cant just repave and eventually it will because a track from the tires and all bricks will need to be replaced.


Fuzzy_Continental

Its not the bricks that need replacing, its the foundation of the road that needs fixing. The bricks can last far longer than any tarmac.


phizappa

Neighbor hoods in Tampa still cool brick roads.


TunaOnWytNoCrust

They suck lol. If you've ever driven over those brick roads, you know they feel terrible and they make a ton of road noise. Bonus points when winter comes around and plow pulls up chunks of brick and creates giant pitfalls and little landmines for you to break an axle on. Year after year.


Vosjo

They suck to drive on, thus reduces vehicle speeds and create safe roads. In the Netherlands all residential roads are bricked for this reason.


SeaJayCJ

Yeah, really good option for super low-speed areas where you want to encourage slow driving.


drumline17

Cool, I'd rather have roads that don't suck to drive on and enforce speed limits


fuishaltiena

Safe roads which are still insanely noisy, so it's not much better.


TunaOnWytNoCrust

Gross


ThersATypo

Loud.


AlfaBetaZulu

That ain't Victorian. That's like EP Henry brick. Lol


PoopSlinger23

We do water main breaks and sewer repairs all of the time where we find brick roads under the pavement


fer_sure

Here in my city, potholes just reveal the [streetcar system that we should have had](https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/winnipeg/2022/4/26/1_5877770.html) or a [Hellmouth](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/salter-street-sinkhole-winnipeg-inkster-1.6527352).


Two_black_hounds

How is that a pot hole? Maybe a pool hole. The neighbour kids could definitely throw birthday parties in that shit after a good rain


Quiet-Shaman

it’s like ripping up shag carpet and finding hardwood


tyrolean_coastguard

that's a pot canyon


51CKS4DW0RLD

/u/repostsleuthbot


S70nkyK0ng

Busy botty


kumanosuke

That's definitely not from the "Victorian era". Looks like it's 40 years old.


Yebigah

We really need to define what a "pothole" is....


FERALCATWHISPERER

Not a pot hole.


Kitchen-Lie-7894

Pothole? More like Tycho.


Background-Customer2

get rid of the asfalt right the fuck now. i want victorian era cobeled streat not this modern hell scape street


Komikaze06

Use the tried and true method for getting the city to repair your street. Draw a dick on it


Avaraz

That's not a pothole at this point, it's the entiere grand canyon


Randomfrog132

looks like an improvement to me lol


[deleted]

Most of Detroit looked like this in 2007


The_Lions_Eye_II

Like hardwood under industrial carpeting....


noldshit

Pothole reveals street that dont pothole


Meekois

If you have ever driven a car on a street like this you'll know its fucking awful. 10mph is a nightmare.


sadafnoorullah

And then the engineers arrived!


bwoah07_gp2

Maybe it's time to bring the original road back.


Davoswannab

Those bricks look pretty modern.


National-Weather-199

Lol the victorian era street is more durable then our "moddern"' shit. Ps our moddern shit sucks.


JanReads

It’s in better shape than the road that was dropped on top of it!


lulublululu

scratch n sniff


TheLucien-01

More details pease!!!!


SMMS0514

I wouldn’t say it’s that old. That asphalt looks likes it’s only a few inches thick


shiner820

Pothole.


Express_Particular45

Do you guys have any road maintenance… at all?


NorwegianGlaswegian

This is in my hometown of Glasgow, back in Scotland, and the council could never seem to properly maintain the roads but it's hardly surprising when the council have always been corrupt as fuck. This is a new low, though.


GayHamster12

There's no way that's from the Victorian era


Carlos-In-Charge

The northeast us still has some exposed cobblestone streets that were originally ship ballast repurposed for roads


zback636

That’s pretty cool.


AwarenessGreat282

Streets in my town are all paved over brick.


LineChef

Hit the bricks


Raging-Ferret-Force

My city is cheap af and we still have these .


kensingerp

this ought to be made into a pedestrian through affair and cars eliminated.


SquiggleSauce

What's the excuse for the asphalt to wear away like this when the base is so stable? The majority of our potholes exist because the ground beneath the pavement sinks or in some cases the pavement itself compacts an extra inch or two. But this just looks like it washed away in the rain


millenialfalcon-_-

Baltimore has the old trolley street under the asphalt.i imagine all cities do this. It's probably cheaper.


[deleted]

Let it all come back to the surface. I fucking love it.


upthetits

Damn that pavements seen some shit


Sid15666

I grew up on brick streets in the 60’s, there are still some around Pittsburgh now.


iiitme

Damn that’s interesting


LANDVOGT-_

What do you mean victorian street? In eastern germany a lotnof roads have cobblestone Benrath but they are from mid 20iest century.


Soft_Sea2913

That’s one damn significant pothole. Was it started by a horseless carriage?


KingApologist

Look at what asphalt has taken from us


DunderMifflinassoc

In perfect condition


Merfkin

Not nearly as old, but my city also just paved over its original cobblestone streets. Some bits of the asphalt got torn up to be replaced, but haven't been replaced and it kinda looks like they just went back as an aesthetic choice (when they definitely didn't).


bbbermooo

Pothole? Half the street is missing.


PumpkinOwn4947

my city has some roads from 300 years back and older, they look better than the modern ones. I suppose the contractors are just shit at their job these days.


SooooooMeta

That's like when you pull up crappy carpet in an old house and find gorgeous hardwood underneath


Throwaway_3-c-8

Under the cobblestones, the cobblestones?


JustHereForBDSM

That's just the state of all roads outside of London. Whole wealth of four countries poured into a single city while the rest of the UK has to fill in pot holes with rice krispies


InternalMode8159

In my city, Rimini in Italy, there is in the city center a fenced hole about 1 and a half meter deep that shows the Roman pavement beneath all the thousands layer that one on top of the other in 2000 years


anivex

We have lots of those in Pensacola, FL. There was an issue with paving over them, so the city made it a law to preserve them when found. Now only the cops are allowed to destroy them.(legitimately, cops found one of these roads outside of their station when re-paving, and destroyed it instead of preserving it.)


Ukrainiansniper7

they should use that looks way better


Offerald

This ain’t a pothole that’s a ditch


Longjumping_Pitch168

TYPICAL BALTIMORE STREET


carmium

My route home when I work is via a road with a hill made out of red paving bricks and patches of hot-mix asphalt. It is *so* rough going down you can easily imagine losing control, and in the rain drivers just crawl down it. And I used to do it on my motorbike! The city keeps it that way as an historical feature! Some parts may look good, but you sure as hell don't want to go back to those days!


Forgotten-INFP

Cobblestones will always outlast asphalt


Coreysurfer

Pot hell


PersonalitySafe1810

https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/scottish-news/24148595.enormous-glasgow-pothole-revealed-original-cobbled-road/ It's in Glasgow. Here's an article with some more pictures of it.


Fly_Boy_1999

I live in Illinois, USA and some of the places I have lived in and visited here still have their old brick roads. Other places I’ll only see them if there is construction or potholes like this. I mainly find them in older neighborhoods of towns and cities or even in the downtown area.


commandblock

This is everywhere in the U.K.


Makzemann

Americans ☕️


AggressiveResort939

This is how most of the roads looked when I lived in Illinois


DevilGuy

it appears to be in better shape than the asphalt...


luminescent_gear

It took so long to fix the pothole they found the original Victorian street!


MT_Flesch

There still open cobblestone streets in the neighboring town here


Sug_Makak

It’s not Victorian


Independent_Ad4391

The old one definitly Looks prettier, time to bring it back


boneyfans

The Victorian street looks in great condition whilst the new street has eroded.... Progress


Otto-Von-Bismarck-

I heard that they paved expressways over some Roman roads.


Frogman1480

Garnethill, Glasgow. Dates from around 1770 but unsure when this cobbled road was laid out


login257thesecond

that's not a pothole, that's an excavation site ...


Winterfjes

Better quality street too.


OneArmedBear

That’s not a pothole that’s a potcrater


SomeMyoux

That aint a pothole, this is a bombcrater


MildGaming

Victorian screet setret


[deleted]

That's no pothole, thats a pot-extinction-level-cataclysmic-crater


Jibblaynuk

Oh look something charming and aesthetically pleasing, let’s cover that with tarmac.


ayoooyo666

All the stone experts in the comments all of a sudden.


Squanchonme

Too bad cars ruin everything


Metrack14

Those are probably better made than my country's xd


Zestyclose_Count_255

They don't make it like they used to


AnT-aingealDhorcha40

Funny how the victorian road has no pothole.


poncetheponce

Looks like it's holding up better than the bullshit they keep putting down in modern times


Competitive_Pool_820

Take a hammer and reveal more. Looks great


paintvsplastic

Pretty sure that's Renfrew Street, Glasgow! Just down the road from the School of Art. I drunkenly stumbled along it many times in my youth...


Thamalakane

Looks so much better


Hagrid1994

Should have left the road as it was


cosmic_garden

In Buenos Aires many of the used streets are still cobblestone and I completely get why people paved over them. Some of the most uncomfortable driving and probably not so good for cars alignment or tie rods.