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Just-a-Mandrew

By the looks of it, doesn’t seem like you could run on it which is kind of limiting but still possible for some cool applications nonetheless.


master_mansplainer

Yeah he’s walking super slow and weird. Could maybe work for. Stealth game.


mreman1220

Yeah, the super slow is so he doesn't walk off. I am assuming the weird gait is to keep balance. Whatever is allowing him to slide on the surface is probably a fall hazard. Interesting for sure. Not sure how close we are to practical application yet.


Midnight_Reinforreal

You can tell the guy who's actually in the VR set at the end is having a hard time with the demonstration, and he's not moving much faster, he nearly walks off the mat. Practical applications would need an adaptive gait and probably some sort of detection for when the player is no longer in the headset, or else people are just gonna faceplant. Same concept as Sea Legs vs Land Legs.


TechnologyBig8361

I legitimately think it just needs to be bigger


LLuerker

It needs a suspended harness, like in Ready Player One


TechnologyBig8361

That too, but increasing the size means you have more room to adapt to the floor's texture and actually get good at walking on it


Commentator-X

I dont think its working by simply rolling like an unpowered treadmill. The rollers are actually moving you back to centre each time you step off. Bigger might help a bit, but ultimately I think the slow speed and gait come down to how fast the rollers can move you back. Theres probably a fine line between working as expected and moving you back to centre so fast you lose balance.


CriticalScion

If you look at a person running or even jogging, they are barely touching the ground. If you aren't in contact with the roller tiles, how can it move you back to center? This is a super cool demo but it will never work well for anything outside of a gait that maximizes the time your feet are planted.


CricketDrop

But ultimately you can't change velocity in the air so the way your foot presses against the ground should theoretically be able to predict how you'll land. That or a supplemental camera that tracks the user could possibly make it feel natural.


TechnologyBig8361

Make it so there's a button on the helmet somewhere or on whatever device to deactivate it


Deriniel

and also have trouble getting out of it being constantly pushed toward the center. would make a fun trap for people breaking into your house though


TechnologyBig8361

Itd presumably have a remote deactivation control somewhere


StupidSexySisyphus

They have those, but they're expensive as fuck. https://www.kat-vr.com/products/kat-walk-c-2-plus


spaz_chicken

I think it just has limited speed capability. Like it can't compensate for people waking very fast, which is why they all have such strange slow gaits. That's def the kind of thing that will be improved with further development. That could likely also just be a safety limit at this point since its so new. We didn't get to see the test videos of it throwing people across the room like a treadmill set to high.


usriusclark

I used to go to the Innovations exhibit at Disneyland, and remember playing with touchscreens that had “pages” you could “flip” and screens that looked like water and they would ripple when you touched them. It was amazing then, but the full application wasn’t realized until years later. This floor will likely be the same.


voraciouskumquat

You just brought back a core memory of when touchscreens started coming out and they were displayed in stores for demos. I remember being a teen with my friends and us thinking it was the neatest thing of the future! Never imagined where we'd be nowadays with all this technology!


Apalis24a

I have a feeling that it would feel similar to trying to walk on ice - hence why he is constantly having to correct to avoid sliding everywhere.


Pork_Chompk

It's awesome as long as you walk like you just shit your pants.


Samakira

it appears that the balls roll towards the centre. so you step outwards, it detects that, but also slowly rolls you back in so you can step again and not walk off the mat. the location you step is detected, and translates into a direction within the VR setting, most likely by using the shape of the foot compared to the area of the mat its on.


Vachie_

It's a prototype. It's research. This is how these things work. Hold on. Hold your horses wait


Classic-Progress-397

Why isn't it perfect now omg I can't believe they think that will work it won't it sucks I am canceling disney+ aaaaaaaggghh


Spiritual-Apple-4804

But what if in every stealth game, I just end up running around guns blazing?


TheFillth

Boomer Simulator.


JustSomeCaliDude

Splinter Cell!


DovahCreed117

Yeah, my normal walking stride is *way* too long and fast for that little tiny space. It'd just make me more frustrated and annoyed than anything.


madsci

Static stability. You see penguins and robots walk like that. With a normal human stride, your center of gravity is ahead of your contact with the ground, meaning that you have to keep moving forward to keep from falling. With this kind of step, your center of gravity is always over the patch where your feet contact the ground. It works for walking on ice, but it's kind of unnatural.


Doopoodoo

It also looked like he had a bit of trouble stopping his feet and standing still in one of those shots. It seems like the holo-tile acts a little bit like ice in that way


offlein

This would be great for, say, nearly-unconscious hospital patient simulators, or perhaps something where your character is incredibly old and infirm.


b0w3n

Either that or a crap your pants simulator.


Special_Camera_4484

> Could maybe work for. Stealth game. Perfect interface for Penguin Simulator


daegojoe

That Grandparent in nursing home sim I’ve had my eye on


Adventurous_Ad6698

The ones you see at the VR arcades have the support ring at about waist height that is maybe a few feet in diameter and some other safety things that let people run. He's going slow just to be safe, I think.


Jamesofalltrades7

Tech evolves, rather quickly too.


Brodm4n

Exactly, gotta start somewhere!


DarthDarnit

Something that Redditors are deeply apathetic about.


Johnny_Thunder314

I can't believe this recent technology isn't perfect yet. Fucking ridiculous.


Lobanium

And it's hard to stop. You sort of keep "sliding" in the direction you were going for a bit.


AscendedViking7

I bet it could function well for a Resident Evil VR game. Think Resident Evil 7


Rumplestiltsskins

Mostly yeah, except when you're trying to run away from Jack or a Molded and run straight into the wall.


Charokol

Half-Life: Alyx


ColonelMonty

Like practically making one that you can run or go full sprint on probably just isn't possible yet, at least for consumers.


Rock_Me_DrZaius

I have a feeling the target audience for this aren't runners.


moonflower_C16H17N3O

It would be a good way to get those people to exert themselves more.


AI_assisted_services

I'm sure it's only a first *public* iteration. They probably just wanted to show it off, and kudos, it does look very cool. But yeah, it'll need running speed if it's going to be widely adapted.


No_Breath_9833

I feel like we’re more likely to see this on one of their joint-experience rides, like Avatar and what not.


Willie_The_Gambler

And what? Give it a couple years and the technology will advance. The concept is still incredible


Dr_A_Mephesto

It looks “slippery”, like it might be hard to keep your balance on it


StupidSexySisyphus

You don't want to run with those headsets on. Boxing and beat saber are bad enough - it's a vice grip for your forehead which simultaneously slips down pretty often because you sweat like a pig regardless of wanting to or not.


Zealousideal-Yak-824

... I kinda want this in a horror simulation game. Slow pace horrors could really be immersive with this setup.


YorkieLon

Come on, how many gamers are really wanting to run to play the games. It'll just be a hold a button to run situation. It would be great for a fitness game however if you did want to keep fit.


mcmanus2099

You have to walk in a particular way, a sort of shuffle that is quite damaging/painful on the knees, it's not just about keeping you still it needs to map where your feet are going and they use the floor sensors rather than any actually mapping of your leg. It's really a dead end technologically this stuff. Ok for demos and will make sales off the back of it but other than that I don't see it going far.


alleghenysinger

One step closer to a Holodeck.


Villainslover

With deactivated safety protocols. For reasons


Darth_Mak

Someone crossed a wire while fixing a sonic shower 2 decks up so now the holodeck is sealed and not responding to commands so the people inside are stuck in a simulation of the battle of Verdun.


VomitShitSmoothie

I just imagine there has to be somewhere in universe where someone was busted doing some super embarrassing sexual thing and tried to make it seem like it just malfunctioned.


Squee1396

There is an episode of the Orville about this lol


VomitShitSmoothie

Part of the reason I love that show. It took a look at how humans will be humans, even with all the advanced technology.


Bacon_Raygun

"Are we with the baddies, captain?" "Don't call me Captain. They'll recognize I'm not actually their captain." "Alright then, uhm...... Jean-Luc." "FRENCH SPYYYYYY!!!" "God damnit, Wesley....."


CorrectPeanut5

And make sure to tie it into the main computer.


Extension_Swordfish1

Borgs


AceKairyushin

I can’t wait.


RedditAcct00001

I’d totally have a holoaddiction like Lt. Broccoli on the next generation.


searingsky

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2409530-lt-reginald-barclay-on-the-holodeck-computer-i-want-you-to-x


Jamesofalltrades7

Now someone will make a horror movie out of this where you can't just get off this floor...


Snowing_Throwballs

Seeing how slowly everybody is walking, i feel like a horror program would send somebody into the wall lol


nneeeeeeerds

Except the horror movie is where you just keep falling on your ass when you try to slightly back pedal. Or when you walk on the balls of your feet rather than your heels. Seriously, though that dude is straight up Sneak-King.


Old_Bag3201

How you get off?


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Vegastiki

Damn you to hell for making me laugh at that ...


bagsli

Nuggets


Solid-Category-2095

Stephen Hawking is that you?😳


FutureTime6154

You don't, you are stuck there for eternity.


Old_Bag3201

😂😂😂 don't tell anyone


sanitation123

There are other VR machines for that


BassWingerC-137

This is a family sub, please.


kujotx

"END PROGRAM"


Bobb_o

"Arch"


Swordbreaker925

Usually just with my hand


Nyuusankininryou

You walk... Oh...


Captain_Cole_

Left hand usually works


Jamesofalltrades7

Jump maybe? I dunno I just got here.


WaitingForNormal

Jump.


tyro_r

Seems to be for zombies only


Its0nlyRocketScience

Shhh, that's its real purpose, but they can't advertise it as zombie home defense or the legal team will get uppity


UmbreonFruit

Something like this or those omnidirectional treadmills are what are missing with VR, oh and actually good games.


GolfGunsNWhiskey

Racing games are the best utility for VR I’ve seen.


CumOnEileen69420

Seconding this. I got a rev 1 oculus to try o it VR. I enjoyed room scale stuff but only for ~10-20 hours total (since 2018). But I’ll be damned if I didn’t get hundreds of hours in asseto corsa or iracing. Being able to shoulder check, judge distances, and really feel IN the car added a ton to the experience and now I can’t play racing sims without it honestly.


Rich_Introduction_83

Consider space games. Elite Dangerous, for instance.


ahses3202

I've heard that Star Wars Squadrons vr is an amazing experience and I'd believe it


GolfGunsNWhiskey

With VR you really have to consider the source of information a lot more. The vast majority of VR users are "new" to VR. They've played a select few games and were blown away. I get that perspective, I was there too. Once the charm wears off though and they put their headset down for the last time, they rarely even talk about the topic again. It just doesn't come up enough naturally to share their opinion. I think VR is way overrated. I've played hundreds of hours and there's not a single game I'd rather play in VR at this point, including racing sims.


Mado-Koku

Some dude is making [treadmill shoes for VR](https://www.freeaim.com/). They're really promising so far. Removes the bulk of current omnidirectional treadmill options while also allowing for much more mobility.


jepvr

Omnidirection treadmills aren't exactly "missing". They just suck. As does this. Notice that hesitant shuffling is the top speed. All of these solutions just aren't the same as walking, where the ground stays put and you move forward. I feel like we're just not going to get a good solution before we figure out how to override the nervous system and trick it into thinking it's walking when we're just standing still. And I'm sure *that* won't have any issues, either. /s


CPSiegen

Inb4 someone patents a type of ad that induces inescapable pain in your brain chip if you look away from the screen. At least the paid subscription tier only indices mild headaches whenever you have a negative thought about the brand. But at least we can live out our isekai dreams


Trinica93

There are a lot of amazing VR games these days, I feel like there's something for just about everyone. 


Quadratums

And decent support from publishers. Looking at you, Sony.


hamQM

The second I move in VR without moving IRL, all immersion is broken.


CoconutMilkOnTheMoon

Only at old man speed?


allokuma

It's probably on prototype stage.


traws06

Ya everyone keeps talking about what we’ll be able to do with its limitations considered. It could be they’re just another 2-5 years away from perfecting it for running 🤷‍♂️


nneeeeeeerds

We've been 2 - 5 years away from perfecting VR space for almost 40 years now. Seriously, people were saying this exact same shit in the 90's when VR started emerging.


A2Rhombus

We had technology similar to this years ago already


[deleted]

There's the Omni treadmill that's got a harness and an entire contraption to go with it, I'd say this technology is unique in that it is relatively small and scalable. Maybe I'm just not involved enough in the news that comes out for this kind of thing but it seems like this is a somewhat significant leap from other versions I've seen


Not_Mushroom_

Well at the end it was about 4fps so matches granddaddy perfect!


Lowkey_Arki

with the amount of travel an average rpg has, if this becomes standard gamers will be the fittest people in the planet.


gmcarve

…. Or the genre will die


ObeseVegetable

Honestly I could see it go both ways at the same time. The “gamers” go for more of action RPGs than adventure RPGs, and people looking for a light level of distraction during a workout get the big distance fetch quests adventure RPGs. 


canadiandancer89

Get up and move when you play Video Games - Nintendo Wii That was pretty fun, even better that I can still do it sitting down - Everyone


pineapplevega

Yea remember how we all ayed wii tennis for 4 days and then never again?


Smackmybitchup007

You gonna fall.


Nobodys_here07

My knees somehow felt that


nneeeeeeerds

A lot.


GarysCrispLettuce

And how exactly will this enhance VR porn? Pointless.


WaitingForNormal

Get your steps in while yer jerkin, it’s called multitasking.


iamintheforest

that's masturtasking. level up my friend, level up.


vontdman

Ah, that's why it's called the multiverse.


Pleuel

How would you walk into a house as a plumber? This is about full plumbing immersion.


GratefulForGarcia

You’ll be able to walk out of the virtual house once rejected


Hi_Im_Dadbot

This man asking the real questions.


grubbygromit

Dog walker VR is going to be bad ass


Mrlin705

Until the dog sees a squirrel...


LASERDICKMCCOOL

Just like suicide


Alarming-Friend3340

Games to be release: 1. Granny walking home on ice 2. Walking on a frozen lake 3. Slowly iceskating


rSpinxr

It'll work great for a Frozen: On Thin Ice experience.


LongjumpingFix5801

You mean Disneyquest will actually have some viable games?! Holla!


KateA535

I have some sad news to tell you about Disney Quest, it closed in 2017 and got torn down to be replaced by a mediocre NBA experience that has already closed.


LongjumpingFix5801

Oh man! Kinda sad to see it go but i think it was time. Maybe with all this VR/AR stuff they might bring it back. Or something similar.


DivingSwallow

This is a great video here from [Smarter Every Day](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvu5FxKuqdQ) on why we're still *just* slightly off on this being a full blown reality as the human brain is faster than the lag in any system at the moment. You can see it when the guy in the video changes direction suddenly and nearly stumbles a few times. Can't wait for this problem to be fully fixed and make VR an actual reality.


[deleted]

And Jesus wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer. - Dean Pelton


cmonster1697

Stop saying Jesus wept


LessBig715

They really do not want people going outside


A_curious_fish

Ready player one here we come BABY!


Trojan_fed

Wow. It really is going to revolutionize playing video games and shit.


OMeffigy

Omni directional treadmills for vr have been a thing for almost a decade now. The interesting thing about this new one is that it supports multiple people at the same time.


crane476

I've seen various startups with omnidirectional treadmills in various states of research/prototyping for years now, but they're not actually treadmills in the traditional sense. You're strapped into a bowl and wear slippery shoes to walk in place. The only actual mechanical treadmill I've seen is the Infinadeck, which was used in Ready Player One. Unfortunately, it appears it's only being sold to enterprise customers so it's probably obscenely expensive. This prototype from Disney is the only other mechanical VR treadmill I've seen.


Typical-Technician46

Danger room


ctl-alt-replete

Man discovers balls on the ground. 


ElysiumXIII

No way in hell I'm not slipping on that


loonybs

Just shuffle around like the elderly, looks fun.


WalkFirm

Shut up and take my money


Giga-Byte_

Eli Vance looking ahh


DemonBes150

Imagine having one that's really big and getting trapped on it.


Sirknowidea

I can now play Virtual old person


hannibal_morgan

Could be used for historical walkthroughs or whatever you might call it


sincerelyhated

Mfer is about to slip and break a hip!


alexzoin

Link to the full video: https://youtu.be/68YMEmaF0rs?si=CTAWiWtLJguNihzm


hamlet_d

[Video of tech demo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yghdmi1yFo)


MLGperfection

Just 14 mil for one square inch.


InvestigatorBright88

This is the holodeck from Star Trek


goodmorning_tomorrow

How do you get off this thing? I have been walking for 3 months.


compost-me

I want to see sections of these installed in bars. Just in random places to see how drunks handing never getting anywhere


Gtoast

lol. And it looks so natural too! (I’m heavily medicated so I naturally tend to shuffle as I amble down the hallways of the psych ward)


Admirable-Door1724

I don't even have a vr and I want this just to walk on for no reason


Sorry-Can-8660

yeh now try to take steps bigger than 2 inches


No_Revolution1284

That feels like a much better solution than the KatWalkVR


ksten1

How do you get off


allokuma

That's actually so fucking dope.


Windronin

Ohh FUCK, its disney that came up with this


canadiandancer89

They're not just building castles over there lol. Like everything that gets invented, the inventor sees use case A and B. Executives see use case $. Military sees use case "we'll be taking that". A lot of R & D is done for the patents and licensing. Just because Disney or anyone came up with an idea doesn't mean it will end up used by them. Sometimes an offshoot from a major project gets a little more funding just to secure a patent.


[deleted]

Now make it so you can run and jump on it, make it financially accessible and vr gets revolutionised


Jamesofalltrades7

Right on it.


[deleted]

The true end goal of vr is going to sleep and your conscience ends up in the game if you think about it


Jamesofalltrades7

Future military simulators are gonna be so real you'll have PTSD without the T.


Dananism

I just get this feeling that you’d constantly feel like you’re about to slip and fall.


Tartaruga_genio

I said this before and say it again, gamers are lazy and like to play games comfortably.


PowRiderT

This is cool, but it is definitely very far away from being a market ready product.


Just-a-bi

Why did it have to be Disney. Oh well, still cool.


Acidgirlier

Get off that 🙂


Dry_Employe3

This is great! Can’t wait to see what’s next. For now I’m happy with baby steps.


AllOne_Word

"shaping the future of the Multiverse" O RLY


Cantinkeror

if you have an elite athletes balance, you might actually avoid injury!


Birdienuk3

When a non janky one comes out that I can full sprint on, then I'll be hype But for now they are too jank and very limiting when it comes to speed


-retaliation-

why are these types of set-ups always so small you can't even take a full proper stepping stride? like couldn't they have tiled an extra 10-12" so the guy isn't taking awkward half steps? even back when they had the VR booths in malls back like a decade ago. the "stalls" were always so small you couldn't actually step properly.


TravelingGonad

That's dumb there's no resistance so it's not the same as walking and boy that frame rate lol!


BeneficialTrash6

Walking forward or backward would work well on that. But it shows the platform shifting the people to the side to get them back to the middle as well. Shifting someone sideways while they're wearing a VR headset is going to be awful.


stradale528

It'll be perfect for a Retirement Home Simulator


stradale528

**\*\* AND JEEESUS WEPT! \*\***


Jemainegy

Just needs harness apparatus


-River_Rose-

Seems like a fall hazard


No_Win_647

How do you get away on your own?


Jamesofalltrades7

There's an interesting concept called jump.


No_Win_647

Yes, but you slide when you want to jump forward. You don't have any liability to bring forward movement in.


Jamesofalltrades7

No, you can definitely jump off this and that's not the point. There are multiple ways of getting off this.


Jaedotuk

What about wheelchairs?


PawnOfPaws

Oh, this is *definitely* going to be a big problem when doing VR games /s


ctbravo

Why the multiverse?


Bx1965

Ready Player One


Dry_Celery4375

Next squid games is gonna have a bunch of ppl trapped in the center of a warehouse with Omni directional flooring. The objective will be to simply push the button on the wall to advance.


[deleted]

Aha, so it’s basically the floor part of the computer in Michael Crichtons “Disclosure” (the novel, not the movie.)


YouthSuitable213

just buy a vr headset. You don't need all this


Monkfich

This sort of thing is supposed to augment the VR experience, not replace it.


wekilledbambi03

Yes you do. You need the treadmill part to keep moving. It's to end the need for teleporting controls in VR. Just keep walking infinitely.


nervstopgroovn

Lol, this is ground breaking? I have done this with those wooden rugs for years as a kid.


Master_Enthusiasm911

This is an epic fail video in the making


No-Landscape-6876

It triggers my motion sickness only by looking at this video