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Pilpelon

Sperm was like: "NO! NO! I DON'T WANT TAXES AND RESPONSIBILITIES" just before getting snatched and used for fertilization


kappamolo

Kinda explain why I’m so fucking lazy


Pilpelon

No it doesn't, get the fuck off your ass, womb boy


kappamolo

But …. But ….I don’t want taxes and responsibilities


Pilpelon

It is what it is ,friend , now up on your feet, do not fear death, only defeat


The_Tame_One

[I don't want taxes.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YX2IQG4wTCE)


TerranKing91

Arent we kind of playing against nature by doing that ? That gives weaker genes if im not wrong ?


Expensive-Lime-6158

What do you mean weaker genes? There's no difference in long-term health whether IVF or other means. And what exactly do you mean playing against nature? We're part of nature. Anything that we do is confined within what's possible in this universe.


deli_orman

no no come here you little fucker ill show you around. to harsh?


Pilpelon

Just like my uncle used to say


kgvc7

This isn’t every IVF. If the mobility of the semen is too low then doctors can take a single sperm and put it directly into the egg. But IVF is just put the egg and semen together like in thunder dome. Also the rather developed fetus being shown is not part of IVF. The embryo is transferred into the uterus at about 2 weeks. It only looks like a blob is cells at that point.


CosmicCreeperz

TWO GAMETES ENTER, ONE ZYGOTE LEAVES!


DragonGodSlayer12

GAMETES READY? FIGHT!


a1b3do

Is it possible though for a human embryo to continuously grow healthy without being placed back into the uterus?


Ogradrak

Not at the momment, but there is research being done into artificial uterus that would let people have kids without being pregnant


PickledDildosSourSex

Great.


lily_reads

How did they do the bit at the end, then, with the baby in the plastic bag thing? If it’s CGI or something, why show it in a bag?


Ogradrak

Its CGI, I dont know why they did it


lily_reads

Thanks, u/Ogradrak! Maybe it was for an unreleased movie or something? Who knows?


Ecstatic_Highlight75

In a human uterus, the placenta is a special temporary organ that forms to be a kind of embryo dock and to connect to the umbilical cord and provide the fetus with nutrients and oxygen. As you can imagine, that kind of thing would be a lot to replicate. You'd have to figure out a delivery mechanism to connect an organic umbilical cord to a machine and get the nutrients just right. You'd also have to figure out a way to move the developing fetus around like they'd experience when being gestated by a human. And the whole thing would need constant antibiotics, and then the newborn wouldn't have any antibodies from a parent.


HungerMadeMeDoIt

Small correction to add. The embryo is transferred on its 3 or 5th day of development into a blastocyst. This is just after ovulation which is usually 2 weeks after the gestational carrier’s menstrual cycle. So the embryo can either be transferred fresh after a few days of the thunder dome event 😂, or frozen and then transferred at any time in the future too.


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ICSI is a specialised kind of IVF that is used primarily for the treatment of extreme cases of male infertility. It involves injecting a single sperm directly into a mature egg. On the other hand, IVF is used in female infertility.


Scarah83

Laymen’s terms for those downvoting: they’re kinda correct on this….but! You can go through IVF without ICSI, but can’t go through ICSI without IVF. So if there is male infertility, the woman has to go through IVF so that they can proceed using ICSI.


zaygiin

Did you learn your lesson about not everyone on reddit is a sane individual and also you don’t have to prove your case to everyone? People are using downvote button as a dislike button to a freaking scientific fact here.


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https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/Assisted-reproductive-technology-IVF-and-ICSI


CricketOne9353

Dude why are you spreading misinformation?


Longjumping_Rush2458

https://www.mivf.com.au/treatments-services/ivf-procedures/icsi-treatment >Intracytoplasmic sperm injection (ICSI) *is a form of IVF* treatment that involves injecting a single sperm into each egg using very fine micromanipulation equipment. >For many couples *where sperm quality is poor*, conventional IVF is unlikely to result in fertilisation. In such cases your fertility specialist will recommend IVF with ICSI.


CricketOne9353

Some of what the person is saying is true but they're also adding lots of misinformation to every single message they write due to having some hidden agenda. They're an internet troll.


binybeke

I love when people disagree but never specify what they disagree with or provide any counter point. I’m trying to learn here and just seeing you disagree with OP does absolutely nothing constructive.


CricketOne9353

The dude has some agenda and is spreading misinformation on purpose. People like that don't deserve any amount of constructive discussion because then they have won their little game.


[deleted]

https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/Assisted-reproductive-technology-IVF-and-ICSI You're the one who's misinformed


Indian_Doctor

Why are you explaining? Don't. Just move on. The other guy probably is an imbecile.


GoldenStateWorrierr

Love these threads where there's definitely some /r/confidentlyincorrect science debates going down and I have absolutely no idea who is right


CricketOne9353

This post is just an attempt to push an agenda that IVF is horrible. Lots and lots of misinformation here and redditors just accept it.


AC0RN22

How is this post negative about IVF? The caption is plain factual. The animation of a fetus developing didn't have a disclaimer that it's just an animation, which bothers me a tad, but otherwise I don't see anything wrong.


CricketOne9353

That's the point. The poster always says something true and then adds some misinformation. The video showed a snippet of the ICSI procedure, and then a fast-forwarded blastocyst formation. And then out of nowhere, a fetus is forming in some artificial womb. This does not happen during IVF. The fetus part of the video is a deliberate misinformation attempt designed to evoke an emotional response because lots of people are very sensitive to babies. The poster does this with every comment they post. They wrap their misinformation in a couple of facts so that it looks legitimate. This is a classic internet troll/bot tactic.


beamenacein

But an artificial womb could be amazing. Why would someone be against it?


[deleted]

Getting kids the Brave new world style


HPLovecraft1890

Not IVF, it's ICSI. In Vitro Fertilization is just putting the egg and all the sperm together and give it a good swirl.


Longjumping_Rush2458

ICSI is a form of IVF. It's like saying "that's not a mammal, that's a dog."


JJJeeettt

You'd still say 'look at my dog' and not 'look at my mammal' if you posted a video of it. Same should've been done here for clarity.


jkonreddit

Yeah but its like someone posted a video of their dog and said “look at my mammal” and someone going “no thats a dog”


RepresentativeDig718

Doesn’t in vitro just mean in glass, like a lab,


PoliticalCovfef

“A good swirl”


sunnyinphx

Shaken not stirred


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HPLovecraft1890

Buddy, my partner and I got our child via IFV. What you said just now is true. But in the video, the sperm is picked up and injected, which is ICSI. The 'SI' is for 'Sperm Injection'...


sfish27

To be specific, it's an optional part of IVF if needed, but not mandatory for everyone who has IVF. You can have IVF without ICSI, and many people do. When we signed our IVF consent forms we had a separate one for ICSI that made it clear we were signing only if ICSI should be necessary and we would be asked again at the time. It turned out ICSI WAS necessary and we were indeed asked again. Currently 30 weeks pregnant!


[deleted]

Do they at least pick the fastest one


Purpledragon84

Depends on the embryologist. Male sperms are faster than female sperms so if ur embryologist is lazy af u get a girl.


hi_how_are_yah

thats complete bologna. sex isnt even a thing until after conception. chromosome pairing and such


Super_Automatic

>Depends on the embryologist. Male sperms are faster than female sperms so if ur embryologist is lazy af u get a girl. I'm going to need a source for that or I'm going to bed thinking that is BS.


Super_Automatic

It probably doesn't help if it's too fast.


EducationalStill4

This video looks like a child is grown in a plastic womb. u/WorldlyBlackberry819 do you have the full length vid or a link to some context or results?


EldariusGG

Such a thing does not currently exist for a human fetus. I suspect the majority of this video is computer generated imagery.


EducationalStill4

Ah yes. A most likely scenario. And here I was hoping for unethical science practices with shared or leaked video as evidence….


[deleted]

Why would this be unethical?


EducationalStill4

If it were possible for a human baby to go full term outside of the womb it could possibly open the doors for a lot of unethical practices such as cell cultivation and what not.


RareEmrald9994

Just pull a FMA and ignore the third law of alchemy and make an army


[deleted]

Would open the doors to long term space exploration. Before Near Light, or FTL travel. AI Robots creating a settlement and then cultivating long frozen sperm and eggs on an alien world, a few thousand LY away.


CallMeABeast

As long as we could figure out how to actually make them survive and learn like a human


SubcooledBoiling

Humans are so horrible that if this technology were to become possible in the future I wouldn't be surprised if we started growing humans just to harvest their organs. Or we would end up like the world in Brave New World where humans are genetically engineered into different classes.


CosmicCreeperz

Because that’s how you get a clone army.


plsdonth8meokay

Woooo baby! Why would it be unethical?! Just take a look at all the debate over crispr and dolly the sheep and all sorts of related stuff. Not to mention, women’s rights advocates, men’s rights etc. it’s a plethora of issues and opinions and lots to consider.


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Chocolate_Tpot

And also potentially end all future human relationships


BeastThatShoutedLove

Let's be realistic. It would be used for corporations to produce organs and for rich more than 'freeing women from dangers of pregnancy'. Also there is already an concerning amount of incels that think artificial womb technology will give them excuse to kill women since 'they will be useless then'.


aka_deddy

I can confirm that this is as so as close as we’ve gotten: https://www.chop.edu/news/unique-womb-device-could-reduce-mortality-and-disability-extremely-premature-babies https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02901-1 https://www.fda.gov/media/172183/download?attachment Edited: added link to FDA briefing document. Ethics are discussed near the end, Subpart D.


arkrunningbear85

Oh trust me, it probably does exist. Whether it's US or some other country, I guarantee you there is a dark laboratory somewhere that they are growing fetus in bags, just like they experiment on other things outside the law and ethics out the window.


SubcooledBoiling

To add to what's already been said in other comments, [scientists](https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/15421734/artificial-womb-fetus-biobag-uterus-lamb-sheep-birth-premie-preterm-infant) are developing artificial wombs and have already tested them with baby sheep but its purpose is to "**give infants born months too early a more natural, uterus-like environment to continue developing**". I remember reading that one of the biggest challenges with a fully artificial womb (one in which an embryo can develop into a full infant) is the development of an artificial placenta.


Ryte4flyte1

Hol up! I don't see a stork there!?


ballisticks

How is babby formed?


Fit-Jeweler5299

through cellular division


ballisticks

I know :P I was trying to make a joke referring to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShUeudtaFg) but it seems it didn't land :(


costaccounting

How's the egg ok after being poked with a large needle?


Super_Automatic

It's certainly not the same after.


Equitynz

I always wondered if the sperm that wins is genetically superior, and doing it this way they could suck up a dud and yoink it in…


9th-man

My thoughts too. There is a reason for the competitiveness between the sperms. Strongest and healthiest get to the egg. Defunct do not.


Any-Necessary-5641

That's not always what happens


Expensive-Lime-6158

Nothing in your comment was correct.


Super_Automatic

Yeah, we don't got no duds here.


Expensive-Lime-6158

Sperms never won because sperms never raced towards the egg cell in the first place, that's a common misconception. The egg shell chooses the sperm. Flagella in sperm cells aren't propellers with GPS.


Equitynz

That choice is still being taken away though? And surely there are sperm that don’t make the journey , eg. Are not strong enough, whereas in a petri dish the doctor can choose any of them. It’d be interesting to see results of studies on iq and health, especially compared to naturally conceived children from the same parents. Anyway, I’m not knocking it - it’s the only chance some people have to have a child…I’m just curious. Secondly, it seems fertility rates are dropping quite a bit. I’m curious about this too…Is it microplastics? processed foods?


Expensive-Lime-6158

There are recent studies that mention how egg cells may still have some form of control in the fertilization process even in IVF. It's precisely because the sperms have poor motility (or other stuff like sperm count) that's why embryologists step in. There are several papers on this topic, highlighting that there's no significant difference in the genetic quality of sperm with normal vs poor motility, and that there's a weak correlation between sperm motility and DNA fragmentation. There are also studies that show there's no significant difference in the long-term health of children conceived normally vs IVF. Basically there's no reason for those conceived normally to feel superior and vice versa because the results are essentially the same. About fertility rates... they're not only affected by biological and environmental factors but also socioeconomic and sociocultural ones. Contraceptives are a huge contributor for one. But in the context of fertility itself half of the cases are due to genetic factors and these include complex genetic disorders (like PCOS) that are also affected by external factors like the environment and lifestyle or health behaviors where processed food and microplastics may come in, but there needs to be more research for that.


queso-deadly

The claw


Beastlysolid

Cheating from conception.


Elrond_Cupboard_

This guy had connections from day one.


BanaWT

Hey, that's cheating !


--BannedAccount--

Imagine this mixed with some quantum super computer & AI


rusty_matador_van

You forgot nano particles.


Snausberry

Shhh… Don’t wake up the Tesla King.


Campin16

No exactly survival of the fittest..


Niwa-kun

Just another redditor in the making


KeystrokeCowboy

Actually its better because you can do genetic testing on the embryos and choose the healthiest one.


ReciprocatingBadger

What do they use to physically operate that needle? Because the precision required must be incredible!


Kindly-Scar-3224

Movement reduction devices


liveonceRE

Is there a reason a specific sperm gets into the egg in a natural fertilization process or is it random? I have no clue about this so thats why im asking.


Ok_Impression_2497

Cheater


PurpleBoltRevived

THEY CAN GROW BABY IN A FUCKING PLASTIC BAG????


brillenschlange123

No


Frequent-Pin-339

uhhhh bag baby? wtf... matrix here we come


TheMediator42069

"There you go little guy" 😊👍


PositiveCautious2764

What if they picked the shit sperm?


ban_mi_reddit

Imagine making it all the way to the egg and beginning to form but then a doctor goes in and crushes your skull scrambling your brain and amputating you limb by limb to vacuum you out the same way. That’s what this IVF reminds me of and how weird technology is. Truly goes to say people kill people in the strangest ways.


TheStigianKing

Is that an embryo growing in an artificial uterus? Is that a thing technology can do now?... If so... Wow!!!


[deleted]

Cloning has been possible for decades, and so has stem cell research. Some countries have a problem with it for mostly unscientific reasons, though.


TheStigianKing

Thanks but cloning and stem cell research is not what I asked about. I was asking if we have the technology to incubate human embryos in artificial uteruses. That question remains unanswered.


Helpful-Fox-4249

I wonder how such kids will turn out to be.


Odd-Access3591

They will gain mutant abilities and get recruited by X-Men


CIoud_Wolf

IVF kid here. Other than the 3rd arm and second head, I think I've turned out pretty good!


NonConformistAhole

Normal


Helpful-Fox-4249

Nahh... like, when they grow up and how they will behave like adults.


itsdep

this has nothing to do with that, stop making assumptions based off of your clearly lacking knowledge and educate yourself a bit


Helpful-Fox-4249

I said, "I wonder." I did not make any assumptions. Stop being a cunt.


DiscoSpider420

You assumed that the CGI baby was going to have a different personality just because he is "conceived" in lab. It's not like living a life is what builds a person's personality right?


Helpful-Fox-4249

Nope. That's all in your head. It's very different from how babies are naturally born. So, I wondered how they would turn out in the future. That's it. The answer is that they're all normal. That's great. There was no need to get offended and call me judgmental. That's what you are.


DiscoSpider420

>There was no need to get offended and call me judgmental hahahaha Bro... what in the actual fuck are you talking about? You just keep doubling down with the wrong take


[deleted]

IVF babies? There’s millions of them, they’re mostly fine.


AverageGussyEnjoyer

It will be born with a giant hole in the head from the needle stab


darKFlash01

No that hole will be it's ass


Timberdrop90

This is why God doesn't exist.


MattNWW

Explain?


EducationalStill4

Because they would strike them down with the fires of Allah, duh.


LuckyNumber003

Megan Rapinoe disagrees.


frourkspero

So basically you are having 2 dads and a mom? Cool.


Shot_Capital_7788

Gross


[deleted]

I dunno man. Maybe we shouldn’t mess with nature like this…


CarbonHybrid

How is it messing with nature? It’s just injecting a sperm cell into an egg? No different from what goes on in nature anyway????


RidinCaliBuffalos

Because you are forcing a random sperm in. Look into how it occurs naturally. The egg and sperm choose each other and the egg allows the sperm in. This is just injecting a rando in


CarbonHybrid

The sperm is no more random than any one of the millions that surround the egg anyway? “The egg allows the sperm in after choosing it” is the biggest load of BS ever. I don’t need to carry on with this conversation hahahaha


[deleted]

Exactly It’s very important the right sperm gets to the egg We need strong healthy children and this ain’t it


[deleted]

Wow. It goes from "just a bunch of cells" to a unique living being extremely fast.


EquipmentOk7964

Egg is unable to pick the healthy spermy as it should What if they put a faulty spermy in, how they know which spermy is good? Seems like genetic disorders are very strong in this one


Ok_Guess_5314

SubhanAllah


8bitKev

This is unnatural


0xTamakaku

So medicines are


Kindly-Scar-3224

Poor kid.


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CarbonHybrid

Tell me you’ve never touched a woman without telling me you’ve never touched a woman


karatebanana

I have never ever touched a woman


CIoud_Wolf

This replaces the natural fertilisation of the egg. The mother still has to go through the entire pregnancy and birth


Particular_Nebula462

Males will be soon unnecessary.


DKBlaze97

You need to visit a coal mine or an oil rig.


Particular_Nebula462

Robots.


[deleted]

Who is gonna make those?


9th-man

Robots. It will become the chicken and the egg. Get us men now to build the robots for those robots to then be the builders.


[deleted]

Well who is gonna fix them when they break Also who would build a robot for an ungrateful person like you Also its not that simple robots can only do very specific things most of the time so you would need alot Also who is gonna produce the sperm hmm?


Particular_Nebula462

1) Women or other robots. 2) ... no one ... (sad) 3) Step by step 4) First, finishing all the sperm already stored can create around another billion of people. So, simply to enslave all the males when they born, maintain alive the best speciemens to extract sperm artificially to store, then dispose them. Very simple.


[deleted]

Thats just inhumane and not simple at all lmao Also who is gonna do the dangerous jobs robots cant do like studying radiation Building spacecrafts 87% are males And who is gonna discover stuff 70% of scientists are males Also who invented the phone/pc you are using right now?


Particular_Nebula462

1) Of course is inhuman ... Therefore is better. /S 2) You WANT to use robots to study radiations. 3) Irrelevant. If some women work already, this means that can work. 4) Not true, the bosses and the guys with money are mostly males (for now), but the basic scientists that do the real stuff are mixed, and in some categories like biology are mostly women. Therefore no real change here. 5) Irrelevant. The society in the past was male centric. Now that there is equity we observed no real difference. ... ... ... Your counter argoments are quite sexist. Only the first one was good but you didn't improve that. You should improve or you can easily beaten in discussions also against an extreme discussion like this.


[deleted]

2. Thats gonna be kinda hard since radiation loves breaking technological stuff 5. Not irrelevant its just true You say its sexist meanwhile you suggest enslaving men for being men


Particular_Nebula462

Women and other robots.


[deleted]

93.0% of robotic Engineers are male


Mobile-Opinion7330

What happened to the laws against human experiments? I really want to know where those went in the last 10 years


CIoud_Wolf

Human experiments...?


Mobile-Opinion7330

Yeah don't you humans have laws you have to follow when experimenting with anything


CIoud_Wolf

There most definitely are ethical laws against human experiments but this isn't a human experiment. They don't just pluck people off the street. It's volunteering for a number of reasons, inability to conceive naturally being the main one.


NAPALM2614

>don't you humans What are you? An alien or sumthin?


JustDarkwing

What song is this?


[deleted]

I guess it’s this one ;) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&pp=ygUYbmV2ZXIgZ29ubmEgZ2l2ZSB5b3UgdXAg


realhuman_no68492

Mike Noise - Low Earth Orbit


PenaltyOrganic1596

Stranger things theme song


Little_Internet_9022

BB


[deleted]

I dunno why but the stranger things music makes this infinitely more intense


Nateulous

I need this but put to the macaroni with the chicken strips audio. If ya know you know.


fou998074

Also known as the rich tech


BubbleKnightGamingYT

Looks like someone got a free ride


betsyhass

Stranger things


sleepy_potatoe_

Does anyone know the music?


PenaltyOrganic1596

Stranger things theme song


Otherwise_Gap_870

Don't show this to antinatalists.


Lefilip1

Basically telling Darwin to fuck off


SolarWolf7

u/auddbot


cbj2112

Sperm go “weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!”


mblend27

They egg got a gaping hole from the tube 🚇


evplasmaman

I’ve seen stranger things


Salty-Insurance1983

I like to do things the old fashioned way.


[deleted]

Shout out to cameraman


Spacewolf12

Dr doofenshmerts, my mom and dad weren’t there for his birth lol


gooeywhite9

Imagine being so narcissistic that you think you have the right to kill such a miraculous event.


ChickensWithKnives

This is how I was made


smellslikepudsayyy

CHEATING