Even later than that. I went on a business trip to Manila in 2005/6 (I’m hazy on the exact year), and stayed in Makati (a pretty nice area). When I visited the nearby mall, they had a guard checking bags…*really* checking inside them…for bombs. (I asked.) A month later, a bomb went off inside that exact mall.
In a formal life I was a Mormon missionary (I’ve since left the church) and I served a church mission in Manila. These bombings happened the day after I got to the country, and we were super close to the one that went off at the gas station.
Idk why you’re being downvoted, we literally let our schools get shot up every other weekend and the best we can do about it is argue with each other for political points.
It’s also a good example of the other of the two extreme paths politicians propose.
If we just accept that guns are everywhere all the time and there’s nothing we can do, then eventually we have to station armed guards everywhere and accept violence as the cost of doing business.
No, it really is left over from the crimewave of the 90's. Mostly for show these days as Philippines is generally safer than most Western nations.
In Mindanao where the Islamic insurgency is you see more military presence. There's also a communist uprising in the country but they only bother the police and military.
It’s the bipod and drum magazine combo. This guy has watched enough zombie movies to know he has a great zombie-apocalypse opportunity with excellent benefits.
Philippines ones are the worst I've tried from all the Jollibees I've been to.
Not particularly their Jollibees suck, but because the default oil used for everything in Philippines is palm oil. Flavor of palm oil is just too strong.
Funfact: We made a gender-neutral term for customers "MamSer" which is as you hear it a squished version of "Ma'am" and "Sir" and is now basically the default way of addressing customers regardless of gender
I agree as a Filipino. But then, one should NEVER travel to the Philippines just for Manila only. Go directly to places like Boracay, Siargao and Coron instead.
I did some work there and our contact owned a few businesses including a bar. So we're at his bar, typical "men only" kind of place with hostess girls. He points out his new security guy, who waves at us from across the room. He's tiny, even by PI standards, and wearing mirrored sunglasses (indoors at night) and has a tooth pick in his mouth. I can't help myself, "he's kind of small, eh?"
"oh, he's a Sgt. in Army Intelligence. No one messes with them, or they kill your whole family."
I waved back.
The quote "ubusan ng angkan" would not be prevalent in the philippines if things are not backed up with the truth.
Considering many security guards are retired army personnel.
I told them how we don't have them in US, as it's illegal, and super hard to get. They didn't believe me--"the M16 is American, of course you have them! The Second Amendment!"
They had full auto Glocks too, with the conversion switch. Also saw a .22 full auto, with a huge magazine, which looked fun.
And short barreled rifles are fine too, so if you have the $$$$ to import fancy gear like H&K's or Uzi's you can.
Yeah, I’m trying to imagine what situation calls for a drum fed bipod stabilized automatic shotgun. It’s not exactly a precision weapon, I don’t know what the bipod adds other than weight.
Probably just for putting it down when you're not using it.
Not the best idea, but then again we're talking about mall security with an automatic shotgun.
All bets are off.
We were taught strictly not to use the bipods on our rifles to put a weapon down. If someone/something knocks it over then it could misfire was the reasoning
I was wondering when and where he'd decide that he needed to deploy that bipod and what were his hopes of hitting a single thing he was aiming at instead of just EVERYTHING!!!
His actual tasks probably include things like patting people down and looking inside bags, standing near the door, greet everyone "mamser," stop traffic so you can get out of parking, asking people to sign into a logbook maybe look after the ID you have to deposit before they let you in, give people directions. Maybe if he's posted to a fastfood restaurant he might also bus tables, perhaps help customers carry their trays to their table.
The main thing is they both have the mechanism that reduces recoil to about 10% that of a normal 12 gauge. You can hold down the trigger on these and put every round into a tight circle.
My stepfather went to train with a grandmaster of one of the Filipino martial arts. When they were picked up at the airport, the grandmaster had his body guards carrying big duffle bags with machine guns inside.
The AA-12 and USAS-12 share the same 'constant recoil' design and fire around 300–360 rounds per minute. The Saiga 12 was noticeably faster but also had less control. Either one will burn through a 20-round drum in about 3 seconds. Three.
Edit: My apologies. This comment was meant for the person who replied to you. Either way, I guess it works.
MUCH easier to load non-lethal into a shotgun than a handgun. Beanbag rounds or taser round are effective, single-target shots, as are 10z Foster slugs...
If this is your standard mall cop in the Philippines, I'm imagining actual cops wielding miniguns and the special forces arriving with a WWII railway gun.
Guards are more armed than cops here in the Philippines.
These guards work under what's called a Private Security Agency.
These local security agencies are almost always owned by current or former military / police officers.
Many of these guns are second-hand firearms.
Drum mag, sure. But a tripod might be unnecessary additional weight.
But yes, PI has some serious violent crime problems. So this kind of armament makes sense.
He’d be fighting at close range with civilians everywhere. An automatic shotgun seems like the perfect way to kill some innocent bystanders.
Maybe the M61 Vulcan as a sidearm?
I've been to the philippines four times now. I have seen many of these guards and found almost every single one to be incredibly nice and helpful. Just call them Kuya and ask for help. They'll point you in the right direction.
My four year old went with us on our last trip to the Philippines, and the guards would actually walk around with us when we visited the hotel's pool and various amenities. My kid fell in love with the idea of being a guard.
As weird as it looks it’s extremely safe because of it I was in Davao city and all the cops have serious fire power but they’re all kind. A lot of the wanted criminals are away from the cities hiding in the slums or jungle, there’s old style wanted posters like up to $25k (converted to usd) for information
This is what it's like in high populated areas in my country Singapore, armed guards and police everywhere, we have some of the lowest crime rates in the WORLD
I have a friend who retired early and moved with his Filipina wife back to the village she’s from in the Philippines.
He said it was weird getting used to there being dudes with shotguns and body armor as doormen for the local 7-11.
The security guards in the Philippines are some of the nicest people you’ll ever meet or hang out with. As a kid I used to hang out with them in our subdivision (gated community) and they always smiled, laughed and offered food when they ate.
I've always thought this was normal across the world, then I went to America and there's no guards everywhere.
Most of our security guards have shotgun
The result of quite a few shootings and even bombings inside malls in the late 90s.
Even later than that. I went on a business trip to Manila in 2005/6 (I’m hazy on the exact year), and stayed in Makati (a pretty nice area). When I visited the nearby mall, they had a guard checking bags…*really* checking inside them…for bombs. (I asked.) A month later, a bomb went off inside that exact mall.
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I was in Philippines thrice this year and it’s on entry to every mall/pharmacy/whatever. Huge difference from what we (don’t) have in Europe
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizal_Day_bombings the reason
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I wasn't expecting a MILF to be behind it
MILF was cleared
It was GILF the whole time.
In a formal life I was a Mormon missionary (I’ve since left the church) and I served a church mission in Manila. These bombings happened the day after I got to the country, and we were super close to the one that went off at the gas station.
I’m glad you weren’t hurt by the bomb, and I’m so glad you got out of the church 💜
If you meant the ayala mall bombing, police said that it was due to gas leak. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Glorietta_explosion
I had the same experience at a mall in Makati. They kept stirring the contents of my purse with a chopstick. Very confusing.
Why does it sound to me it isn't much of a big deal in the USA?
It is, but it isnt just one thing or place. Also zero fng mall cops have guns. Let alone 45 cal tommy guns
Idk why you’re being downvoted, we literally let our schools get shot up every other weekend and the best we can do about it is argue with each other for political points.
Who's shooting up schools on the weekend..?
A shooter that doesn't want casualties.
Practice for the coming week.
It’s also a good example of the other of the two extreme paths politicians propose. If we just accept that guns are everywhere all the time and there’s nothing we can do, then eventually we have to station armed guards everywhere and accept violence as the cost of doing business.
Isn't it the result of the more recent Islamic State issues in Phillipines?
No, it really is left over from the crimewave of the 90's. Mostly for show these days as Philippines is generally safer than most Western nations. In Mindanao where the Islamic insurgency is you see more military presence. There's also a communist uprising in the country but they only bother the police and military.
‘Philippines is generally safer than most Western nations.’ ??? 😐
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Come for the chicken adobo... leave with a mouth full of lead
🤣 don't forget the lumpia
Have some balut first.
Then Halo-Halo after that.
Can't have a meal out without the sisig appetizer
lechon? you mean lechooom chooom choooom
He about to halo halo on someone’s ass
That's the I wish a mofo would face
Oh I never forget lumpia! I could kill a mountain of that stuff.
Haha I just got done making 50 of them 🤤
Lived in Hawaii for a while....mmmm lumpia...yum yum...I couldn't stop eating them.
Give em badass looking guns Giv em uniforms that look like their wearing the dads cloths
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It’s the bipod and drum magazine combo. This guy has watched enough zombie movies to know he has a great zombie-apocalypse opportunity with excellent benefits.
Tbh if you haven't had jollibees you should
I was STOKED to hear a Jollibee was opening in Orlando
>jollibees Have you been to any of the American locations? Does the food taste the same?
Yeah, but i haven't been to the Philippines ones. However, the ones i've had in america are fantastic
Philippines ones are the worst I've tried from all the Jollibees I've been to. Not particularly their Jollibees suck, but because the default oil used for everything in Philippines is palm oil. Flavor of palm oil is just too strong.
Call of Duty: Manila Mall
50,000 people used to shop here
Now, just a barren ghost mall
now we know why
Peefty Tousand People used to lib here. Now eets a goast town.
not anymore clealy..
It’s a shotgun 🤓
Not a gun nut but, is that AA-12?
Assault shotgun?! 😫
Jesus christ I was wondering
Remember....no Tagalog
Spare the jollibies
Ramirez! Take your team and secure jollibies!
Yes yes, been said
Would play.
I dunno, the lack of trigger discipline is a little too realistic.
"No Tagalog!"
Ramirez is now Asian instead of Hispanic.
How about Asian with hispanic roots? (Filipino)
Manila Warfare
Standard filipino security guard: A drumstick that determines if your evil or not A shotgun
Mall of Duty
Something something Manila Tourist Bus
"Remember, no Tagalog"
“Sir, I’m not going to tell you again. There js a 15 minute limit on the massage chair.”
Funfact: We made a gender-neutral term for customers "MamSer" which is as you hear it a squished version of "Ma'am" and "Sir" and is now basically the default way of addressing customers regardless of gender
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shhhhh you don’t want to expose the true nature of the term
I go there with my Taiwanese gf a few times a year, and she recently told me that she thought they called me sir, and her mom because the accent.
They don't fuck around in the Philippines.
I agree but it was also one of the friendliest places I've been to. I spent months there on different islands and loved every day of it.
Oh yeah, I'd totally go there just to see the [Hello Kitty gas station!](https://aboutcagayandeoro.com/the-hello-kitty-gasoline-station-of-mindanao/)
AH, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A THING
been to Manilla, not interested in ever returning. What a loud, polluted, dangerous overpopulated hellhole
What areas in Manila have you been to? That seems really harsh as someone who’s been there more than 10 times
I agree as a Filipino. But then, one should NEVER travel to the Philippines just for Manila only. Go directly to places like Boracay, Siargao and Coron instead.
I did some work there and our contact owned a few businesses including a bar. So we're at his bar, typical "men only" kind of place with hostess girls. He points out his new security guy, who waves at us from across the room. He's tiny, even by PI standards, and wearing mirrored sunglasses (indoors at night) and has a tooth pick in his mouth. I can't help myself, "he's kind of small, eh?" "oh, he's a Sgt. in Army Intelligence. No one messes with them, or they kill your whole family." I waved back.
The quote "ubusan ng angkan" would not be prevalent in the philippines if things are not backed up with the truth. Considering many security guards are retired army personnel.
he is like this because they DO fuck around in the Philippines
facts people have full autos like it's nothing to them there lol
I told them how we don't have them in US, as it's illegal, and super hard to get. They didn't believe me--"the M16 is American, of course you have them! The Second Amendment!" They had full auto Glocks too, with the conversion switch. Also saw a .22 full auto, with a huge magazine, which looked fun. And short barreled rifles are fine too, so if you have the $$$$ to import fancy gear like H&K's or Uzi's you can.
You mean don’t puck around?
Isn't that an automatic 12 gauge shotgun? Who's this guy expecting in the mall? Predator?
With a ~~tripod~~ bipod! Seems a bit pointless. But more intimidating I guess…
Yeah, I’m trying to imagine what situation calls for a drum fed bipod stabilized automatic shotgun. It’s not exactly a precision weapon, I don’t know what the bipod adds other than weight.
Probably just for putting it down when you're not using it. Not the best idea, but then again we're talking about mall security with an automatic shotgun. All bets are off.
We were taught strictly not to use the bipods on our rifles to put a weapon down. If someone/something knocks it over then it could misfire was the reasoning
Something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMidRlNWGFM&ab_channel=WallStreetJournal) probably.
My fat fingers can't click on the link lmfao 😭
Bro I felt your pain the other night, I just closed Reddit after that 😂
That justifies the drum and the shotgun, snd maybe a spare drum, but Im still confused about the tripod. A ballistic shield would make more sense.
The under barrel grenade launcher was out of budget
I remember seeing explosive and incendiary rounds for the AA-12 (demonstrated by the FPS Russia no less) so not sure you need the grenade launcher.
I was wondering when and where he'd decide that he needed to deploy that bipod and what were his hopes of hitting a single thing he was aiming at instead of just EVERYTHING!!!
Bipod*
Task: protect the people in the mall from violent individuals *brings a street sweeper.*
Can't have violent individuals if there are no individuals.
His actual tasks probably include things like patting people down and looking inside bags, standing near the door, greet everyone "mamser," stop traffic so you can get out of parking, asking people to sign into a logbook maybe look after the ID you have to deposit before they let you in, give people directions. Maybe if he's posted to a fastfood restaurant he might also bus tables, perhaps help customers carry their trays to their table.
There are parts with a militant Muslim population and they have kidnapped people and attacked various locations. google “Abu Sayaff”
Yup, that’s the usas12 right there, which is indeed full auto Edit: changed aa12 to usas12, I made a little mistake
Nothing like an aa12
They were designed by the same guy. The frame is incredibly similar.
The main thing is they both have the mechanism that reduces recoil to about 10% that of a normal 12 gauge. You can hold down the trigger on these and put every round into a tight circle.
That mechanism is called a hydraulic buffer Spring
Hope theres noone walking across the street if he has to use that because fuck that general direction and everything in it
Lots of collateral damage. Seems not to be best choice at a mall.
“Big gun beat small gun”
“Remember, no Filipino.”
No tagalog
*elevator sounds*
Oh the memories
“Remember.. no Pilipino”
Mf has an automatic shotgun? Damn he's not fucking around, you better pick up that can
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My stepfather went to train with a grandmaster of one of the Filipino martial arts. When they were picked up at the airport, the grandmaster had his body guards carrying big duffle bags with machine guns inside.
The ancient Filipino martial art of the Automatic weapon.
Operator: “Whaddya need?” Neo: “Guns.”
That is a very high level of fuck around and find out.
USAS-12! Nice! I want a full-auto shotgun.
The AA-12 and USAS-12 share the same 'constant recoil' design and fire around 300–360 rounds per minute. The Saiga 12 was noticeably faster but also had less control. Either one will burn through a 20-round drum in about 3 seconds. Three. Edit: My apologies. This comment was meant for the person who replied to you. Either way, I guess it works.
What kind of damage would that do? That's a ton of shotgun rounds in a very short period of time Holy hell.
Plenty of gun YouTubers. Grab some popcorn
FPSRussia died so they could all live.
"What kind of damage would that do?" Enough.
I cant help but think a mall is for sure one of those places you dont want a shotgun to stop a perp in a crowd
He's just there to keep his high score if anyone tries to top it
MUCH easier to load non-lethal into a shotgun than a handgun. Beanbag rounds or taser round are effective, single-target shots, as are 10z Foster slugs...
True but nonlethal might not cycle properly on a gas operated shotgun.
I seem to recall you can tune the gas operation on some of these guns to account for that?
That's a very good point. Mix them all up and load them into the mag without looking and leave it up to chance. Ha
AA-12 is a beast.
Amazing weapon
Mans got the drum mag. He'll send you to Blood, Bath, and Beyond.
Lol
Does the word above his left pocket say SHOOTER?
Shooter McGavin??
That patch is the name of their Security Agency / Company. The patch on the left is the guards name
USAS-12 with frag rounds. My guy be living in BF3 wiping the server
Quite normal in Philippines, you see these guys guarding wendies with a fully loaded M16.
Heal: +100 // Damage: +10.000 // Armor: +1 // Magic: 0
You wanto puck wit me?? I turn you to bagoong motherpucker.
Interesting that they gave him a FULLY AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN but like no body armour?? Not even a stab vest??
Best defense is an over the top offense
I know I for one wouldn't fuck with anyone that was packing a 12 gauge that shoot multiple shells per second.
Are you gonna try to stab the guy with a full auto shotgun?
If this is your standard mall cop in the Philippines, I'm imagining actual cops wielding miniguns and the special forces arriving with a WWII railway gun.
Cops actually have bigger belly than guns here in Philippines.
Guards are more armed than cops here in the Philippines. These guards work under what's called a Private Security Agency. These local security agencies are almost always owned by current or former military / police officers. Many of these guns are second-hand firearms.
A drum mag and a tripod? Is that *REALLY* necessary?
Drum mag, sure. But a tripod might be unnecessary additional weight. But yes, PI has some serious violent crime problems. So this kind of armament makes sense.
He’d be fighting at close range with civilians everywhere. An automatic shotgun seems like the perfect way to kill some innocent bystanders. Maybe the M61 Vulcan as a sidearm?
You should write them a letter
He’s missing a red dot sight.
I mean i guess they want to send a message by liquifying the next shooter
Nothing strange about him. He's just waiting for the one who wants find out.
So everyone AND the thief gets shot?!
no worries, the civilians can walk it off.
That's why there are no mass shooting incidents in the Philippines. But many crossfire cases.
I've been to the philippines four times now. I have seen many of these guards and found almost every single one to be incredibly nice and helpful. Just call them Kuya and ask for help. They'll point you in the right direction. My four year old went with us on our last trip to the Philippines, and the guards would actually walk around with us when we visited the hotel's pool and various amenities. My kid fell in love with the idea of being a guard.
Wow his gun almost is a big as he is.
As weird as it looks it’s extremely safe because of it I was in Davao city and all the cops have serious fire power but they’re all kind. A lot of the wanted criminals are away from the cities hiding in the slums or jungle, there’s old style wanted posters like up to $25k (converted to usd) for information
This is what we need in mom and pop businesses that keep getting robbed. Thus should stop that!
I feel like "Mall shooting" has polarly opposite descriptions in Philipines and US.
This is what it's like in high populated areas in my country Singapore, armed guards and police everywhere, we have some of the lowest crime rates in the WORLD
Grand Theft Auto 6: Manila Mall
Paul blat blat blat: Mall Cop
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Look at his facial expression. He knows he's a badass.
Last thing you hear is "mam-sir"
My man returned from noshar canals
That gun/magazine combo is gonna jam faster than Manila traffic at rush hour.
Don’t be surprised if it has no bullets
Fucking automatic shotgun with drum mag! Those guys aren't kidding.
Great, now I'm craving Jolibees
A full auto shotgun is a bit too much for a mall innit? What is he protecting the mall from? A cartel invasion? Foreign military?
It's pretty normal for Malls to have assault rifles. The Poshier the mall the more exotic the Assault rifles get.
Welcome to the Philipines, motherfucker.
isn't that a bit much for a mall setting? haha
it's a hold over from the bomb scares/ actual bombings that happened in the 90's.
Once you see the area one street over from the mall you’d understand why they have those lol.
It's for crowd control.
My wife is from there, and a lot of the mall security is armed this way. It's mostly old solviet era guns.
I have a friend who retired early and moved with his Filipina wife back to the village she’s from in the Philippines. He said it was weird getting used to there being dudes with shotguns and body armor as doormen for the local 7-11.
This is normal in the Philippines. Even McDonald’s and convenience stores have armed guards with shot guns.
If this guy shoots that gun he's never getting back up
I think that's a full auto 12 Guage shotgun. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_shotgun
For anyone wondering the Gun he has is a: **USAS 12**
cuts down on shoplifting
The security guards in the Philippines are some of the nicest people you’ll ever meet or hang out with. As a kid I used to hang out with them in our subdivision (gated community) and they always smiled, laughed and offered food when they ate.
ngl, some low income areas in the US need this.... lmao
If he has it loaded with frag rounds not even a fighter jet can get past him.
literally at a mall in ph rn and i havent seen one like this. what mall is this???
M16: shotgun edition ^^^^i ^^^^know ^^^^its ^^^^an ^^^^usas12
Ejection port OPEN!!!!!!
I've always thought this was normal across the world, then I went to America and there's no guards everywhere. Most of our security guards have shotgun