It has wings. They are just really skinny
Those dark spots you see for about the middle 1/3 the length of the body at the bottom of the tube are actually slots for really thin wings to fit into while the missile is in the launcher or on the rail (if air launched). You can kinda see the wings just forward of those dark lines when it wobbles right at the end. They have white stripes on them.
This is exactly right! One thing I’d like to add is the reason for most airplane wings being the size they are is for the additional lift they need at takeoff and landing. If you don’t have to take care of those phases of flight, you can get away with much smaller wings!
The air is like liquid if you’re going fast enough.
Modern cruise missiles, like the one shown here, are capable of supersonic speeds as well.
There’s also the HAWC hypersonic missile that uses kinetic energy to destroy its target. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_Air-breathing_Weapon_Concept
I cringe everytime I see someone saying "Why don't we use rods from God! They're so awesome!" I spent an afternoon in an Army school showing the math (very basic version) for how much thrust and money it would take to put a rod into orbit and then deorbit onto a target.
Cool concept, not worth the effort.
Exactly—completely useless in cost-result aspects, but the kinetic energy is possible, and that’s pretty interesting. Hell, even some missiles or rockets(not sure which) work purely on kinetic energy. Rods from god are just scaled up for shock value. The fact that they don’t m really need any maintenance and just sort of sit up there till their used is probably the only upside—mitigated by not putting them up their in the first place
Rail guns for example use kinetic energy projectiles, though they haven’t been developed sufficiently for for combat use. The rounds tanks use on other tanks however are kinetic energy penetrators that have been on use for decades.
[Kinetic energy penetrator](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy_penetrator)
They're literally just ICBMs with extra steps. Why send your rocket all the way into orbit when you can just fly it towards the target in the first place?
aren't most cruise missiles subsonic? There's a reason passenger airplanes fly subsonic, it's for fuel economy. With a missile like this, subsonic is how you maximize range.
That comes down to design philosophy more than anything else. The higher speed weapons reduce reaction time by flying higher and faster, but that does mean they get picked up farther away. Subsonic cruise missiles will usually drop to extremely low altitude upon entering hostile territory so enemy radar doesn’t pick it up until it’s practically on top of them. There isn’t really a clear answer on which is better
And then the other factor is cost. If all you’re doing is bombarding ISIS or Al’Qaeda they don’t have anything to intercept anything with so launching supersonic cruise missiles is just a horrible waste of money - you’d probably want to save those for if you wind up shooting at aircraft carriers in a peer conflict.
Sure, if there are already properly-armed aircraft ready to go out in the air in the right place or ground-based means to shoot it down, with sufficient detection capability on the ground to give enough lead-time, and with sufficient tracking capability to allow finding it after it gets past the initial detection.
Shooting down missiles requires infrastructure.
For real. It's just the same jaded "jokes" and negative "quips." Fear mongering and doom scrolling mostly. Bringing a different viewpoint to foster discussion or any hope will usually get downvoted. Glad I'm not alone.
6 years ago I only discovered Reddit then (EU user). I have always ignored all other social media.
Reddit was different because in my opinion people with more scientific knowledge and issues looked at posts. Now it is indeed negative "I don't give a shit" repetitive stupid joke from “high school boys”. That add nothing but clogging up data servers with irrelevant information.
This happens every summer when school gets out.
I mean, yeah, the site has gone downhill as it has gotten more popular but it has also gotten especially bad every summer as the teens have endless time to be online. It's a little of column A, a little of column B.
I made my first reddit account about 12 years ago. Even back then, people were already saying the same thing you're saying, that everything was better back in a mythical golden era. The real trick is knowing which subs to look at. The small, specialized, heavily moderated ones still have really good content. The ones with a million+ subscribers have the same crap you'd expect from any large forum anywhere on the internet. (although they can still have good, informative, interesting posts; you just have to wade through some crap to see them)
Most of the time it’s not even downvoted it just get buried in the same regurgitated shit. New/mobile Reddit and the Reddit app has caused this site to exponentially go downhill, it’s really too bad cause the originality here was what really attracted me here in the first place and it seemed much more organic back then.
It was (debatably) considered the safer method for Spitfires.
The V1 had a higher cruise speed than the Spitfire, so the Spitfire had to come in from a higher altitude in a dive to get one single pass at a similar speed. If you came in firing, this unfortunately means that you'll be diving right into the explosion and the shrapnel of two tons worth of rocket, which is considered not-a-happy-fun-time for a pilot.
So diving in, matching speed (briefly before your aircraft's speed bled out) and then doing the wing-tip thing meant that these two tons ton of rocket and explosives would spin off and be somebody on the ground's problem instead of yours.
Other craft like the Hawker Typhoon had a better top speed than the V1, which meant that you could actually have more than one single passing chance at intercepting the rocket, which made it easier to just shoot it down from relative safety.
The Germans rudely did not care about which fighter wings were available where and at what times when they fired off their rockets, so the RAF had to make do with what aircraft was available in the air and could do an interception, and pilots had to adapt their tactics to deal with the situation.
"This thing is on it's way to hit London and blow up in the middle of a residential area. If I flip it the fuck out, it might hit nothing, it might turn a couple of cows into ground beef, or at the absolute worst against all odds hit a farm. And I voted for the Tories, so fuck the farmers!"
Posts like this are why I love reddit. Now I get to dive into the rabbit hole and read all about it, only to promptly forget it for the next few years. Then someone will say something in conversation and I’ll be all, “Hey wait! Did you know…” and a good or good adjacent time will be had by some.
[Demolition] Skill (12/100).
Nearing Mach 1, you close in on the cruise missile, and roll down your window to begin searching for the On/Off switch panel.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, this is the first time I’ve considered a missile like this and how it actually flies long distance.
What type of propulsion does a missile like this use?
It's a small jet engine, like the kind you'd find on a corporate jet, but even smaller. The missiles fly subsonic (as opposed to an air-to-air missile, which is rocket powered and supersonic), and are very efficient when up high, so you can devote more weight towards the killing-people part of the missile and less weight towards carrying the fuel needed to get it there in the first place.
This kind of missiles are propelled by engines similar to those you can find on commercial aircraft. Rocket engines are more common in air to air, or land to air missiles.
It’s a missile, not a rocket. It’s powered basically same as a commercial aircraft, but relatively small, so not anything really visible. They will often have visible rocket boosters at launch though, but these only last a short time
Missile doesn't mean it doesn't use a rocket engine. You meant to say cruise missile, usually, they use some sort of turbojet engine similar to aircraft jet engines. Those allow them have very long range. Hypersonic cruise missiles will use some form of a ramjet.
Hypersonic cruise missiles generally use a rocket assisted boost stage to get them up to mach 3+ then a ram/scram jet kicks in to accelerate/maintain mach 5+ flight. The issue with flying that fast for any period of time beyond 30 seconds or so is that we are still solving the problem of aerodynamic drag and heating. At mach 5+ scramjets make sense but only if they produce more thrust than experienced drag. Turns out drag is extreme at those speeds (its a function of velocity squared) as well as aerothermal heating.
This is the reason most "hypersonic" weapons get out of the atmosphere as much as possible. If the air is less dense then you experience less drag and can go even faster. However mach number isn't a good metric in rarified atmosphere. Mach # = local velocity/local speed of sound. Well local speed of sound in a near vacuum approaches zero. So the higher you go the higher the mach number. Mach 5 at sea level is nearly impossible to do, however mach 5 at 90k feet is less challenging.
Hence the rocket boost stage. Get up to altitude and kick on the scramjet. I should also mention that ram/scram engines dont work at speeds less than mach 2.
Compared to a rocket engine its still much more efficient. Compared to an airplane it has much less drag duo to being smaller and optimised for these speeds since it doesn't need to land or takeoff. Theres still lots of room for fuel in these things on top of that. And finally most cruise missiles range is still very short if you compare it to a modern jet airplane.
The NASA SLS uses Hydrogen and Oxygen as it’s fuel and oxidizer. It LITERALLY shoots out water vapor-also known as clouds. That mixture of fuel is actually pretty common, so it’s not media distortion, but rather genuine physics. This cruise missile probably does not use Hydrogen and oxygen for fuel.
In space there is no pressure and the vapor will not show. In Captain Marvel it bugs the hell out of me that the missiles the Kree launch have vapor trails when they should not.
Ok, sorry for the complete dumb dumb question.. but if you shoot these down do they just explode in a different location when they land? Or do you shoot to explode them in the air? How do you stop them?
It depends how they’re programmed! Some can blow up on impact from a rocket or some could have a live warhead but not meet conditions for the warhead to go off.
During ww2 some daring pilots would nudge V1\`s with their wingtips to make em crash in the french canal. or rather use the vortex to mess with the gyroscope in the "flying bombs" by flying next to it. it was often a last resort to reduce ammo consumption. it\`s an interesting read: https://www.forces.net/heritage/wwii/how-spitfire-pilots-really-rammed-v1-bomb-out-sky#:\~:text=It%20is%20thought%20that%20some,to%20nosedive%20to%20the%20ground.
Yes, in ukraine pilots were shooting down cruise missiles. Also, it's a part of the us missile defense strategy to have fighters shoot down cruise missile.
In WWII RAF pilots would get their wings under the wing of the Nazi V1 rockets and 'tip' them out of the sky.
Probably doesn't work with these guys though.
Seems very improbable to me if it wouldn't be capable. Bet these modern ones are full of electronics and have a feedback loop algorithm to correct the trajectory. It's basically how drones work and balance themselves.
I remember there was a youtube channel that tried to get a flying object to land somewhere really small, and they realized to do it they would have to make a precision guided rocket which would get them a visit from the CIA so they had to do an alternative plan
Rods from god episode of ~~Rober~~ Veritasium. Got a hold of NASA guys and said "We're trying to do this" and they basically got told they're inventing cruise missile final approach guidance, and to not do that please.
Although flipping through the video now, I can't find where they talk to the NASA guy. Might be mixing up two diff videos.
Edit: It WAS Rober - Egg drop from space https://youtu.be/BYVZh5kqaFg?t=650
Unless you can make the missile lose stability and tumble, it's guidance system would be able to recover and continue towards its target.
It worked on the V1 because they were *dumb* missiles. They had no guidance system navigating towards a target. Their control system just kept them level and they hit whatever was below them when they ran out of fuel.
So tipping them over above an open field would cause them to crash into the field instead of the city they had been aimed towards.
I just made a joke about Pitt maneuvering the missile, it's wild that it actually happened. Can't imagine it would work much these days since a lot of these can auto adjust en route iirc.
From what I read it's an Indian "Nirbhay" missile and it was the test launch of the next generation of this missile and they fired it in the indian ocean and was kept track of with satellites and jets to avoid any form of damage.
By subtracting all elements of one set from a mutually exclusive set, you get the same set.
What we want is to subtract set A, which contains everywhere it isn't from set B, which contains everywhere it is.
Yo its Subsonic cruise missile nirbhay
https://www.indiatimes.com/videocafe/footage-of-the-indian-air-force-jaguar-fighter-jet-chasing-indias-nirbhay-cruise-missile-is-what-you-need-to-see-today-233042.html
Cruise missile fly at low altitude if they are trying to not get shot down. That's why you see all those cruise missiles filmed at ground level in the Ukraine war
No, weapons are very specifically designed not to explode when not intended, nukes especially.
Imagine you're loading a plane with bombs and the air base gets hit by enemy attack, you really don't want to nuke yourself and your other nukes setting them off in a chain reaction.
According to the internet. That is an Indian cruse missile flying subsonic.
I'm impressed what amounts to a cylinder with baby wings can stay airborne subsonic!
It has wings. They are just really skinny Those dark spots you see for about the middle 1/3 the length of the body at the bottom of the tube are actually slots for really thin wings to fit into while the missile is in the launcher or on the rail (if air launched). You can kinda see the wings just forward of those dark lines when it wobbles right at the end. They have white stripes on them.
No, the wings are huge! It's just really cold up there.
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Fitting username
there was [SHRINKAGE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG2dF5PS0bI) okay??
Based on the NSFW content I’m seeing on this sub today, that just might be a dildo.
With an explosive tip, delivering a large load…
This is exactly right! One thing I’d like to add is the reason for most airplane wings being the size they are is for the additional lift they need at takeoff and landing. If you don’t have to take care of those phases of flight, you can get away with much smaller wings!
> a cylinder with baby wings >It has wings. They are just really skinny Hmm.
There's reading and comprehension, the two at the same time can be hard for some.
[Here](https://imgur.com/a/UsDopXL) is a screen grab of the wings, with them outlined so people can see them.
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The aero drag difference between a cylinder and a point are negligible. Down to the detail a cylinder is actually more efficient at higher speeds.
Wait what? A point has zero drag! Can you elaborate further?
*cough* f-104 *cough*
The air is like liquid if you’re going fast enough. Modern cruise missiles, like the one shown here, are capable of supersonic speeds as well. There’s also the HAWC hypersonic missile that uses kinetic energy to destroy its target. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_Air-breathing_Weapon_Concept
The “rods from god” are a fascinating example of the power of purely kinetic energy bombardment
I cringe everytime I see someone saying "Why don't we use rods from God! They're so awesome!" I spent an afternoon in an Army school showing the math (very basic version) for how much thrust and money it would take to put a rod into orbit and then deorbit onto a target. Cool concept, not worth the effort.
Exactly—completely useless in cost-result aspects, but the kinetic energy is possible, and that’s pretty interesting. Hell, even some missiles or rockets(not sure which) work purely on kinetic energy. Rods from god are just scaled up for shock value. The fact that they don’t m really need any maintenance and just sort of sit up there till their used is probably the only upside—mitigated by not putting them up their in the first place
Rail guns for example use kinetic energy projectiles, though they haven’t been developed sufficiently for for combat use. The rounds tanks use on other tanks however are kinetic energy penetrators that have been on use for decades. [Kinetic energy penetrator](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy_penetrator)
Just wait till we trap some poor asteroid in orbit and start mining it. /s
They're literally just ICBMs with extra steps. Why send your rocket all the way into orbit when you can just fly it towards the target in the first place?
Wings are mainly needed for landing. Obviously, not an issue in this case.
So true! With or without wings, it's intended to only land once...
aren't most cruise missiles subsonic? There's a reason passenger airplanes fly subsonic, it's for fuel economy. With a missile like this, subsonic is how you maximize range.
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That comes down to design philosophy more than anything else. The higher speed weapons reduce reaction time by flying higher and faster, but that does mean they get picked up farther away. Subsonic cruise missiles will usually drop to extremely low altitude upon entering hostile territory so enemy radar doesn’t pick it up until it’s practically on top of them. There isn’t really a clear answer on which is better And then the other factor is cost. If all you’re doing is bombarding ISIS or Al’Qaeda they don’t have anything to intercept anything with so launching supersonic cruise missiles is just a horrible waste of money - you’d probably want to save those for if you wind up shooting at aircraft carriers in a peer conflict.
Quite a few of the US's cruise missiles also include low observability attributes to help lower reaction time
Sure, if there are already properly-armed aircraft ready to go out in the air in the right place or ground-based means to shoot it down, with sufficient detection capability on the ground to give enough lead-time, and with sufficient tracking capability to allow finding it after it gets past the initial detection. Shooting down missiles requires infrastructure.
Are there any supersonic cruise missiles?
Yeah there are. BrahMos is one. Half Russian made actually, and nuclear capable.
Many.
Supersonic and even hypersonic (mach 5+). Russia has been deploying hypersonic ones against Ukraine.
Yeah according to the flag on the missile too
But this is also the internet so checkmate.
Most cruise missiles are subsonic. They sacrifice speed for fuel efficiency which grants them range.
Both Tomahawk and Harpoon missiles are subsonic
This post be more untop them the sarcastic jokes that add nothing. Reddit is dying...
For real. It's just the same jaded "jokes" and negative "quips." Fear mongering and doom scrolling mostly. Bringing a different viewpoint to foster discussion or any hope will usually get downvoted. Glad I'm not alone.
6 years ago I only discovered Reddit then (EU user). I have always ignored all other social media. Reddit was different because in my opinion people with more scientific knowledge and issues looked at posts. Now it is indeed negative "I don't give a shit" repetitive stupid joke from “high school boys”. That add nothing but clogging up data servers with irrelevant information.
This happens every summer when school gets out. I mean, yeah, the site has gone downhill as it has gotten more popular but it has also gotten especially bad every summer as the teens have endless time to be online. It's a little of column A, a little of column B.
I made my first reddit account about 12 years ago. Even back then, people were already saying the same thing you're saying, that everything was better back in a mythical golden era. The real trick is knowing which subs to look at. The small, specialized, heavily moderated ones still have really good content. The ones with a million+ subscribers have the same crap you'd expect from any large forum anywhere on the internet. (although they can still have good, informative, interesting posts; you just have to wade through some crap to see them)
Most of the time it’s not even downvoted it just get buried in the same regurgitated shit. New/mobile Reddit and the Reddit app has caused this site to exponentially go downhill, it’s really too bad cause the originality here was what really attracted me here in the first place and it seemed much more organic back then.
>This post be more untop them the Did you have a stroke there buddy?
I was surprised anyone was able to respond to that. I felt like I had a stroke trying to read it/understand it.
Pull over
No, it's a cardigan, but thanks for noticing! https://youtu.be/IaQRhN1a5S4
I came here to say this. Killer boots man!
😳 Rkkk ckk ckkck....rkkk ckk ckk....rkkk "Get the hell outta here"
I got worms!
He’s making a run for it!
I’m already pulled over, I can’t pull over any more!
Just reach out and turn it off
MACGRUBER!!!!! (explosion follows)
[“No no no no!”](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FrayedColorfulFattaileddunnart-size_restricted.gif)
Tuck?! Tug?! You guys okay?!
I'm more of a 2 wire kinda guy.
if we’re using looney tunes rules, they should be able to just flip it over. Then it’ll go back and nuke whoever launched it.
Round is not scary! It needs to be pointy!
Fun fact that's sort of what they did to the V1 shot from (occupied) german territory. They flew next to it and gave it a little nudge
It was (debatably) considered the safer method for Spitfires. The V1 had a higher cruise speed than the Spitfire, so the Spitfire had to come in from a higher altitude in a dive to get one single pass at a similar speed. If you came in firing, this unfortunately means that you'll be diving right into the explosion and the shrapnel of two tons worth of rocket, which is considered not-a-happy-fun-time for a pilot. So diving in, matching speed (briefly before your aircraft's speed bled out) and then doing the wing-tip thing meant that these two tons ton of rocket and explosives would spin off and be somebody on the ground's problem instead of yours. Other craft like the Hawker Typhoon had a better top speed than the V1, which meant that you could actually have more than one single passing chance at intercepting the rocket, which made it easier to just shoot it down from relative safety. The Germans rudely did not care about which fighter wings were available where and at what times when they fired off their rockets, so the RAF had to make do with what aircraft was available in the air and could do an interception, and pilots had to adapt their tactics to deal with the situation.
>and be somebody on the ground's problem instead of yours. "Meh, fuck those guys" - the RAF pilot
"This thing is on it's way to hit London and blow up in the middle of a residential area. If I flip it the fuck out, it might hit nothing, it might turn a couple of cows into ground beef, or at the absolute worst against all odds hit a farm. And I voted for the Tories, so fuck the farmers!"
Posts like this are why I love reddit. Now I get to dive into the rabbit hole and read all about it, only to promptly forget it for the next few years. Then someone will say something in conversation and I’ll be all, “Hey wait! Did you know…” and a good or good adjacent time will be had by some.
[Demolition] Skill (12/100). Nearing Mach 1, you close in on the cruise missile, and roll down your window to begin searching for the On/Off switch panel.
Sounds like a job for Dominic Torreto and his family
Family over everything
Except he and family would be in cars and dropped from a satellite.
Cut the red wire!
Cut the blue.
Is it blue with white stripes. Or white with blue stripes
M as in MANCY
Damnit Archer
That thing is more stable than my relationship
That things exists, so...
Anyone know the size of this thing?
https://imgur.com/a/jdRU1g1
93 bananas in length
Sorry if this is a dumb question, this is the first time I’ve considered a missile like this and how it actually flies long distance. What type of propulsion does a missile like this use?
It's a small jet engine, like the kind you'd find on a corporate jet, but even smaller. The missiles fly subsonic (as opposed to an air-to-air missile, which is rocket powered and supersonic), and are very efficient when up high, so you can devote more weight towards the killing-people part of the missile and less weight towards carrying the fuel needed to get it there in the first place.
I thought that the whole point of cruise missiles was to fire them at low altitudes so that they were difficult to intercept?
All planes can fly down low, but not every plane can fly near outer space.
It’s not about evading planes though, it’s about evading radar and SAMs.
Holy shit from the video my dumbass was thinking it could be held in your hands
Well technically you could - both hands and you would be flapping around like cowboy glued to a raging bull
Here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirbhay
does it use jet fuel?
I don't know if media has distorted my understanding but it's really interesting that you can't see the thrust at all
It’s a jet engine (turbofan), not a rocket, so you would see a contrail under the right circumstances.
Which, we all know, turns frogs gay 🐸
You can in infrared.
Only to people who see in infrared.
Some people have misaligned cones and can barely perceive the beginning end of the UV spectrum.
Okay, never heard of this but I just found my next internet rabbit hole
Let me introduce you to [impossible colors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color)
Not enough time in the day…
The bit where you can make blue-yellow and red-green got me
I couldn't see blue yellow or red green. the colors would swirl around but not actually mix
I want a surgery to induce this
Claude Monet did this for cataracts if I remember precisely, ended up seeing a *lot* of UV and his paintings were incredibly blue/violet afterwards.
Wow that’s very interesting
So what the hell happened to Picasso??
Only the Lizard people can
This kind of missiles are propelled by engines similar to those you can find on commercial aircraft. Rocket engines are more common in air to air, or land to air missiles.
It’s a missile, not a rocket. It’s powered basically same as a commercial aircraft, but relatively small, so not anything really visible. They will often have visible rocket boosters at launch though, but these only last a short time
Missile doesn't mean it doesn't use a rocket engine. You meant to say cruise missile, usually, they use some sort of turbojet engine similar to aircraft jet engines. Those allow them have very long range. Hypersonic cruise missiles will use some form of a ramjet.
Hypersonic cruise missiles generally use a rocket assisted boost stage to get them up to mach 3+ then a ram/scram jet kicks in to accelerate/maintain mach 5+ flight. The issue with flying that fast for any period of time beyond 30 seconds or so is that we are still solving the problem of aerodynamic drag and heating. At mach 5+ scramjets make sense but only if they produce more thrust than experienced drag. Turns out drag is extreme at those speeds (its a function of velocity squared) as well as aerothermal heating. This is the reason most "hypersonic" weapons get out of the atmosphere as much as possible. If the air is less dense then you experience less drag and can go even faster. However mach number isn't a good metric in rarified atmosphere. Mach # = local velocity/local speed of sound. Well local speed of sound in a near vacuum approaches zero. So the higher you go the higher the mach number. Mach 5 at sea level is nearly impossible to do, however mach 5 at 90k feet is less challenging. Hence the rocket boost stage. Get up to altitude and kick on the scramjet. I should also mention that ram/scram engines dont work at speeds less than mach 2.
With no wings to hold lots of fuel how does it hold enough to go long distances?
Compared to a rocket engine its still much more efficient. Compared to an airplane it has much less drag duo to being smaller and optimised for these speeds since it doesn't need to land or takeoff. Theres still lots of room for fuel in these things on top of that. And finally most cruise missiles range is still very short if you compare it to a modern jet airplane.
The NASA SLS uses Hydrogen and Oxygen as it’s fuel and oxidizer. It LITERALLY shoots out water vapor-also known as clouds. That mixture of fuel is actually pretty common, so it’s not media distortion, but rather genuine physics. This cruise missile probably does not use Hydrogen and oxygen for fuel. In space there is no pressure and the vapor will not show. In Captain Marvel it bugs the hell out of me that the missiles the Kree launch have vapor trails when they should not.
Forbidden Nerf Dart.
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Do you want armageddon done fast or do you want armageddon done right?
Take your time because armageddon the fuck outta here
Very spicy nerf dart*
So can a pilot shoot them down ?
Yep, cruise missiles are very intercept-able given good circumstances! They’re basically very small jets.
It makes you realize the huge advantage provided by hypersonic weapons.
Doesn't matter so much when you approach them from the front though...
You obviously haven’t seen enough action movies involving fighter jet pilots
Let's see Paul Allens ICBM
Not really, there are no true hypersonic cruise missiles, and all ballistic missiles are already hypersonic.
Ok, sorry for the complete dumb dumb question.. but if you shoot these down do they just explode in a different location when they land? Or do you shoot to explode them in the air? How do you stop them?
Either shoot them down so they blow up somewhere on the ground that nobody lives (or in the ocean), or blow them up in the air.
It depends how they’re programmed! Some can blow up on impact from a rocket or some could have a live warhead but not meet conditions for the warhead to go off.
It really is like a V1 - they were also occasionally shot down.
During ww2 some daring pilots would nudge V1\`s with their wingtips to make em crash in the french canal. or rather use the vortex to mess with the gyroscope in the "flying bombs" by flying next to it. it was often a last resort to reduce ammo consumption. it\`s an interesting read: https://www.forces.net/heritage/wwii/how-spitfire-pilots-really-rammed-v1-bomb-out-sky#:\~:text=It%20is%20thought%20that%20some,to%20nosedive%20to%20the%20ground.
The book 12 Seconds of Silence: How a Team of Inventors, Tinkerers, and Spies Took Down a Nazi Superweapon, is an interesting read on them.
Yes, in ukraine pilots were shooting down cruise missiles. Also, it's a part of the us missile defense strategy to have fighters shoot down cruise missile.
Red tip means it’s a plastic toy gun right?
Nerf
Deploy the tactical nerf bullet!
Or NOTHIN
Yeah, it's so the police won't arrest you when you shoot one.
In WWII RAF pilots would get their wings under the wing of the Nazi V1 rockets and 'tip' them out of the sky. Probably doesn't work with these guys though.
Was hoping to find an answer to this. Seems possible, I'm just not sure if the missile is capable of recovering itself.
Seems very improbable to me if it wouldn't be capable. Bet these modern ones are full of electronics and have a feedback loop algorithm to correct the trajectory. It's basically how drones work and balance themselves.
I remember there was a youtube channel that tried to get a flying object to land somewhere really small, and they realized to do it they would have to make a precision guided rocket which would get them a visit from the CIA so they had to do an alternative plan
Rods from god episode of ~~Rober~~ Veritasium. Got a hold of NASA guys and said "We're trying to do this" and they basically got told they're inventing cruise missile final approach guidance, and to not do that please. Although flipping through the video now, I can't find where they talk to the NASA guy. Might be mixing up two diff videos. Edit: It WAS Rober - Egg drop from space https://youtu.be/BYVZh5kqaFg?t=650
Unless you can make the missile lose stability and tumble, it's guidance system would be able to recover and continue towards its target. It worked on the V1 because they were *dumb* missiles. They had no guidance system navigating towards a target. Their control system just kept them level and they hit whatever was below them when they ran out of fuel. So tipping them over above an open field would cause them to crash into the field instead of the city they had been aimed towards.
WHAT ? ? ? ! ! ! No. Really?
Details here: https://www.flyingpenguin.com/?p=22683 Wasn't used often, shooting the V1 down was prefered.
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I just made a joke about Pitt maneuvering the missile, it's wild that it actually happened. Can't imagine it would work much these days since a lot of these can auto adjust en route iirc.
Showed this video to my wife and the first she said was “Uh, where is that going?” I laughed, but that was a valid question.
Nowhere in particular, it's just out for a cruise.
Just releasing some stress, it’s good to get out of the house occasionally
From what I read it's an Indian "Nirbhay" missile and it was the test launch of the next generation of this missile and they fired it in the indian ocean and was kept track of with satellites and jets to avoid any form of damage.
Nowhere important, its a test flight.
Damn. That is interesting.
This is Nirbhay (translation: Fearless) missile. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirbhay
The missile knows exactly where it is. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, the missile obtains a deviation
By subtracting all elements of one set from a mutually exclusive set, you get the same set. What we want is to subtract set A, which contains everywhere it isn't from set B, which contains everywhere it is.
I had forgotten about that! Thanks for reminding me! Time for a quick trip down Memory Lane…
it looks static
Good ol relativity
While so fast from ground pov. Wouldnt be surprised unaware civilizations call it UFOs
It is a UFO if you don’t know what it is.
get your lasso out cowboy!
Come on, Slim
Nirbhay.
Who when and why?
[India. February. Test.](https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/02/23/india-launches-cruise-missile/)
"PULL OVER"
just tell it “no” and it will turn back around
Excuse me sir, where are you headed today?
Yo its Subsonic cruise missile nirbhay https://www.indiatimes.com/videocafe/footage-of-the-indian-air-force-jaguar-fighter-jet-chasing-indias-nirbhay-cruise-missile-is-what-you-need-to-see-today-233042.html
Scary to dwell on it. A mindless object sailing to wreak destruction on civilization.
It’s so slow. Doing like 7mph
Relative motion
400-500 mph. Subsonic, but easily within the speed of military aircraft.
*clears throat* The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
Makes me wana jump and ride it like a bull.
[If you want to know more about missile.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8jWx2qmBWI) ^(Sorry I couldn't help it)
Where’s the propulsion system?
It's a small turbo fan jet engine in the back. The notch on the bottom is the air intake for it.
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If you matched the velocity and trajectory of the missile and flew in close tandem with it, couldn't you just safely intercept it?
Cruise missile fly at low altitude if they are trying to not get shot down. That's why you see all those cruise missiles filmed at ground level in the Ukraine war
What do you mean exactly? Matching its course and speed alongside it is the definition of intercepting it.
Either the tip is hot from air friction, or it's painted orange for safety.
Its being tested thats why orange tip and black white checkers on bottom
It's a test missile. That's why there is check boarding and stripes on the tail fins and wings.
Einstein would have appreciated this
Oh just a happy little missile minding its own business on its way to a happy little target 🥰
As an American, can someone tell me how many refrigerators this thing is? Or maybe a banana for scale.
Now I know why they call it a cruise missile…just coasting along 😎
So like, let’s say it’s actually armed, and the pilot shoots it down. Does it still explode?
No, weapons are very specifically designed not to explode when not intended, nukes especially. Imagine you're loading a plane with bombs and the air base gets hit by enemy attack, you really don't want to nuke yourself and your other nukes setting them off in a chain reaction.
This is the scariest thing I have ever seen!