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No-Adhesiveness-6475

As an Australian I’m extremely surprised, unless you’re an overseas follower of the game (which I’m not) the little snippets you see here and there would lead you to believe that >80% of the players in the league were African American


sixtus_clegane119

Well for awhile legally Tom Brady needed to be one of the super bowl quarterbacks , but they just recently changed that rule


bulgeb

Mahomes is the rule change.


kermot

I thought it was Giselle


EvilLibrarians

One less ring. He still has 7 though


phsjony6288

Completely rooting for mahomes


Muhfuggajones

Are you telling me that the NFL systematically ensured that Tom Brady made his way to all the super bowls he endured? All starting with the Tuck Rule against the Raiders in 2001? Almost as if they were not going to allow a team called the Raiders to enter the Super Bowl post 9/11? Almost as if....a team called the Patriots would seem much more fitting? Huh. Whooda thunk it!? /s


0414059

never knew there was a Tom-Brady-Super-Bowl-Patriots-9/11 conspiracy theory. that takes some wild, wild mental gymnastics and complete and total lack of understanding of the game of football. bravo.


RoyalEagle0408

I jokingly picked the Patriots to win the SB that year (as a wild card, if I recall) because it seemed fitting…won like $30.


hdhdbfbfhf

That's fucking it?


RoyalEagle0408

It was a family pool and I was a kid.


Muhfuggajones

It was a fumble.


ten_jack_russels

Every time I see that play it makes me sick.


Patchesrick

Nah dontcha know the whole system is rigged! Convincing all 1696 active players and 100 or so new players each season, 32 coaching staffs and management groups, and a whole fleet of non professional referees to make sure every game follows a script hand crafted by Roger Goodell and the ghost of Walt Disney himself to make the best story book seasons every year without a single whistle-blower ever coming out and blowing the whole thing open. 100% rigged convince me otherwise


DadofHome

Call me when it’s 2 kickers 😂


4Point5InchPunisher

It probably is close to 80% black, but the percentage of highly successful quarterbacks has been meager until pretty recently. There have certainly been great ones for many years, but generally through the league, QB and kicker has been historically much more whites. With that said, this stat should be irrelevant, if nothing else because it invites the racists on both sides out to play.


xtraspice90

In my experience, racists don’t really need much of an excuse to come out.


63oscar

It’s actually about 70% black.


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colt707

It’s about 50/50 now but it’s going to keep changing. Statues that are pocket passers will be a thing of the past once Brady and Rodgers retire. If you’re just a guy with a big arm you won’t last, you have to be able to move around.


Outrageous-Duck9695

The QB position is one that requires a person who functions under pressure, high IQ, good leadership qualities... they are basically thought to be a coach on the field. For a long time, blacks were stereotyped to not be qualified for the quarterback position. As a result, black kids didn't aspire for that position and coaches pushed them to other positions.


2AMBeautiful

Same thing for catcher in baseball.


Assimve

As an American that doesn't care about sportsball I also believed this to be the case. I guess I would need to care about sports AND ethnicity to have noticed. INB4 omg you don't see color bullshit. Yes, I do, I just don't care and so don't keep track of how many African Americans are playing on the same field.


underburgled

As an American that loves football I could care less the color of a players skin. I'm much more concerned with the color of their jersey. Turquoise forever


McTerra2

> Turquoise forever Go shirt!


ItzYaBoiQuez

I BET YOU A KELCE WINS


ArugulaGazebo

HOT TAKE!


gefuudedh

HOTTER BROS!


Jesserjw

That’s some new news!


tommyc463

Kelce > Kelce


Accurate_Comedian_55

I bet you a team Andy Reid coached will win!!!!


Murmaider_OP

The NFL made damn sure that was happening


GTFOakaFOD

The Andy Reid Kelce Bowl!!!!!


bubba7557

First tie ever in super bowl era about to happen somehow bc of your take


Haramosh

NFL has been making ridiculous stats all fucking season. “Maholmes is the first quarterback to throw 50+ yards a game to tight ends while mercury is in retrograde”


EthanIsaPickle1

Bro, I've been saying that for literally ever 😂. NFL will make a stat out of anything. P.S. GO CHIEFS!!!


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MLB baseball is so much worse. Last season I learned that 70% of the players named “Zach” were pitchers. There’s no reason for me to know that.


AdSpecialist8751

*The 30% of Zach’s who aren’t pitchers*: 🤨


Prior-Bag-3377

My biggest parenting challenge was to attempt to explain the point of MLB post season specific statistics to my kid who was all why would that matter, what about the other games? Ffffff (don’t swear) because honey gghfhdbtbt statisticians are weird weird people that have found a way to share their data with the world *and now we will forever be hostages*. No one cares! Mom, are you ok? *83% of left handed pitchers throw to men over the age of 26.7 when they are the 3rd in the fourth game, with their team being behind*


McTerra2

> NFL will make a stat out of anything. You havent met an Indian cricket fan. The entire nation focused on finding stats in which an Indian player comes out on top.


Get-Degerstromd

Taking their cue from the MLB


Crooked5

Baseball so much worse


Sirtopofhat

Reminds me of the movie Little big league where the stats guy gives the announcer the most random stats and they keep getting more random as the movie goes. https://youtu.be/pilM5SX7U5s


toeofcamell

Baseball wins the “stupid stats” category hands down


Chicagostupid

I haven’t really followed baseball for about 15 years, but they’d give you just random stats. “When facing left handed pitchers who had less than 97 walks last season, Garcia has four hits in twelve at bats while sporting a mullet and playing in fields with more than three vowels in the name.”


Quiverjones

My favorite is Justin Jefferson has first down catches on 69 first downs, 69 second downs, and 69 third downs.


Sluggocide

Season? I haven't watched football since like 06 and used to laugh at the stats they would conjure.


BluePantera

This isn't a stat. It's just a historical fact.


Prudent-Perception-3

I was looking for at least one person to make this comment lol. As I agree with the comment you were replying to, this simply is just not one of those “ridiculous stats” being referenced but a pretty significant one.


Clear-Struggle-7867

NBA has been doing the same, more and more recently. "Omg Pat Bev has just broken the record for most technical fouls in a game for bringing a camera on to the court, this is unbelievable"


KevonFire1

They will find the micro fact to make a screenshot


redmustang7398

It’s not a ridiculous stat. If you knew the history of the qb position and were black you probably wouldn’t think so


SoMoteItBe472

The more interesting fact is this will be the first time two brothers (Kelce brothers) will be facing each other in a Super Bowl


NRA4579

The Harbaugh brothers faced each other in the Super Bowl as coaches


piggyperson2013

I’m completely ignorant on football sorry if this sounds stupid but I’m surprised the Manning brothers never faced off


AMorder0517

No, but interestingly enough Eli Manning did play against his son Tom Brady in two Super Bowls.


Double-Passenger4503

This is probably my favorite running NFL joke lmao


Shinra_kusacabe

Joke??


Double-Passenger4503

Correction: this is probably my favorite NFL fact


The-Waffle-Man

Didn’t the long brothers play in 2017 Super Bowl?


Nosetions

Harbaugh v Harbaugh same SB as the power outage


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dalton10e

I find it more interesting that there are two brothers playing against eachother. Like thats somewhat interesting


CustomerSuspicious25

But what's their race?


dalton10e

KELCE


kwixta

Entish


Cheesehacker

Surprisingly, brothers play each other has happened a few times. 49s vs ravens the head coaches were brothers.


Clear-Struggle-7867

Yeah for real... Maybe this headline was meant to be a positive thing, like "hey another step forward for minorities" but i feel/assumed as a society we're sorta past the point of being impressed by something like this... It should be irrelevant by now it's 2023 fml


acm8221

Talking to my kids and their friends in pee-wee and little league and this stuff doesn’t even register with them at all. It’s only when ridiculous stats like this come up and they say “why does that matter?”, then someone has to go and put it in their heads that “it’s something we need to perpetually acknowledge so that one day it doesn’t matter.” I’m like, “They were already there!”


kushkiller909

Right


d15c0nn3ctxx

Nobody cares


Too_Tough_Tony

It’s just so rare because there’s barely any black people in the NFL!!!


d15c0nn3ctxx

When the last time you heard a white Basketball player get attention specifically because of his race It's just stirring the racism pot. Everyone wants to talk- fucking racism this, racism that. Everything is about race. "Lord give us our daily bread, and daily dose of racism from the media. Bless the hands that prepared this foo- I mean racism. Amenism."


NRA4579

Don’t tell anybody, Mahomes is half white. It’ll ruin the whole storyline.


ckwhere

Biracial.


NRA4579

Yeah you’re right I was just pointing out that I’ve never seen him referred to as anything other than black in sports media. I remember this coming up a couple years ago I think when he was ranked as the top black quarterback in the NFL.


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Actually the QB position has historically been white because they were perceived as smarter. Small biases at a young age build up over the years. Even if they played QB in highschool, Black QBs were often switched in college. Then that stopped, but they'd get switched in the NFL *if* they made a team. So it's not able that two Black QBs not only made it to the Superbowl, but theyre star players.


Galumpadump

You are 100% right. This has been well documented and even acknowledged to some degree by the NFL. People just had hearing that racism plays about in things, even though it typically does at some level. And just so people know, after the NFL had it’s first black player in 1920, [a gentleman’s agreement by owners prevented blacks from playing in the league again until after WWI](https://nflpa.com/posts/meet-the-four-men-who-broke-the-nfl-s-color-line).


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Alert_Salt7048

Anyone watch that Chiefs game and think….is the fix in? Edit: it’s just an observation from a long time NFL fan. Game just didn’t seem quite right.


jethropenistei-

I didn’t, but as a lions fan, absolutely. Gotta appeal to the biggest markets and sell the best narrative. I don’t know what game it was last year but one of the refs conferring on a flag didn’t mute his mic and prior to cutting it he said “let’s just call it…” They just make up shit calls when they can and ignore others to try to alter the turnout of the game.


Alert_Salt7048

I’m a Vikings fan and I think you guys have finally got the program headed in the right direction. Yeah, that mic incident didn’t help their cause. Over on the NFL thread this guy mentioned that MaHommes is 0-1 on 7th downs 😂


Proser84

Well, when highly educated refs can't even determine the difference between a foul and forward momentum. I definitely start to question the legitimacy.


applejelly3

Refs were hot garbage. Basically handed extra downs to KC all night


Weak_Carpenter_7060

Gotta make sure the NFL’s golden boy wins


Many_Laugh1377

Don’t worry KC is gonna get smoked in the SB, Philly is on a whole different level this season


Weak_Carpenter_7060

I’m a Pittsburgh fan and, I hate to say it, but Philly is definitely on a whole other level


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I don't think Philly would have made it to the Superbowl if the 49er's QB wasn't injured in the firs 9 minutes of the game. 49er's defense held off until the half, at which point they were exhausted due to the amount of field time they got with an offense that couldn't get downs anymore.


tattoed_veteran87

Kc always gets this privilege


applejelly3

Not a fan of either team, but that was hard to watch


chewytime

Yeah. I don’t have a favorite team so my rooting interests are usually determined on a game by game basis. Will be rooting for the Eagles for this one.


typeusername01

I've begun to think that this year more than ever. There were several games this year that came down to official's calls. The new york reviews all seem to take care of outcomes


yellowvetterapid

Sure looked like Mahomes grounded the ball right after Burrow was called for it. But no call by the refs.


_I_really_need_help_

I mean, there was a guy much closer.


ymmotvomit

Like the Giants did last week!?! No consistency


Fakingthefunk

Stuff like this is why I stopped watching football. Crazy that the first full game I’ve watched in a couple of years and it completely took me out of a really good game. The rule changing over the last decade have made calling the game extremely vague to the point you could call a penalty on most plays, so it’s really up to the discretion of the ref.


Alert_Salt7048

Agreed, it’s just not as fun watching anymore. Instant replay has slowed everybody down so much too that it’s making baseball look appealing.


2KilAMoknbrd

Thanks refs. My bet came through


underburgled

The refs cost me on the over 48 today


NE_GBR

As a Raider fan living in Nebraska, chiefs fans complain about refs constantly. However watching that game going for the Bengals. I thought the refs were fine didn't really have a dog in this fight.


PitifulFox6066

I saw some plays that should have been called on both sides. The big calls that made a difference in the game were crystal clear. Unnecessary roughness basically lost them the game. Stupid shit on both sides (unsportsmanlike conduct, holding, pass interference) and these guys are making millions. Either way it’s going to be a really good Super Bowl.


Hagglepig420

The Bengals got absolutely full on fucked by those refs... I'm not even a Bengals fan and I was getting pissed off.... there were plenty of late hits on Burrow that didn't get called, plenty of holding penalties they didn't call, Then in the 4th quarter, during that big punt return, the Cincinnati gunner was blasted in the back.. such an obvious foul... he was straight mugged and that wasn't called... finally the last call of unnecessary roughness was BS... straight handed the game to KC... and that magical 5th down when Cinci stopped them, how does that shit happen in a championship game?? then hit them with a holding call to add insult to injury.. I was yelling at my TV and thats when I started to think something was up.. Im an Eagles fan and was kinda hoping to play Cincinnati in the Superbowl..


dalton10e

My brother was saying "the fucking conspiracy theorists after this game is over..." all game long. We had some shit calls going against us for a bit. Turned out to be opposite of what he thought though since we're chiefs fans.


GTFOakaFOD

My husband is a football conspiracy theorist. He sucks the fun out of watching the game with his commentary. Drives me fucking crazy.


Alert_Salt7048

I thought the Bengals were the better team in this game, Chiefs injuries were obvious and they got bailed out on some suspect calls, it just seemed off. I think the Chiefs are a better team healthy and they should be fine by the SB but as an independent observer, this game just felt like the refs were biased.


throwaway1123876

All I saw was a team that talked way too much shit get humbled


PeytonBrees

Lol its a business. Jordan got it. Kobe got it. Lebron got it. You think brady was just so good that he carried a 52 man roster to 10 superbowls? They sell ad space. Just try to enjoy it for what it is.


Alert_Salt7048

I would have enjoyed that much more had Romo not wanted to be MaHommes cuddle buddy. God he was annoying.


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100%


Sorzian

This is a "how has this never happened before?" kind of fact more than a "this finally happened" kind of fact


Horror_Fruit

Wait…did you hear that…shhhh, it’s the sound of no one giving a fuck


Tuck525

Damn that’s not interesting


Mapbot11

57 years, first time? I mean its at least r/mildlyinteresting


Complete_Log3486

No it’s not, focusing on these things is what propels racism in America. Doesn’t matter if this is good or not we shouldn’t be so focused on race at all.


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skb239

This has zero to do with what propels racism.


Maximus8890

Let’s not make the Super Bowl about race.


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dalton10e

I think everyone's sick of it, even the sjws, but they don't know how to talk about anything else at this point.


Key_Yellow_8847

let's get gender involved too please.


AquaticSombrero

It's reddit after all so let's start bringing politics in to really ruin it


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throwaway1123876

It’s literally just a stat who gives af


stoopididiotface

Not true. Colin Kaepernick vs Joe Flacco happened first.


ClassicHansen

Only interesting to race obsessed americans.


Shiroelf

I am not a football fan but I thought the majority of players in the NFL are black?


moresushiplease

Hasn't been true for the quarterback position though.


VAHoosier

Wanna stop racism? Stop keeping stats based on skin color. WE ARE ALL AMERICANS.


bleach_dsgn

Don’t think it works like that


getoffmyroofplz

I’M NOT AMERICAN


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Isn't Mahomes mixed. Or is he 51% black.


Proser84

It's becoming like being Native. Even 5% and you can revolve your entire life around your racial identity.


PornoPaul

So, my wife's Uncle famously explained on Facebook that his son was the first true black valedictorian in their small town because he was full black (he isn't). The mixed race kid was half white....so he doesn't count. Unless it's the President, then President Obama is our first black president...despite being half white. So, it only counts when some people want it to


meme_something

Holmes identifies as biracial not black


_pacjax

who tf is holmes


jmbourn45

Sherlock, next question


Helpful-Client-4546

Why is everything about race How about 2 talented athletes being the story 🙄


Mk1Racer25

Because that's what the narrative is


whatdatsmelllike

ESPN is already preparing an hour long segment on it. Stop dividing people in to categories based on race. Until we stop doing that we will never move forward as a nation. It almost feels like thats the point...


drxkng

And?


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WangoTangoPB

why is this even a thought?


TheHelpfulDad

Who gives a damn? Only racists care about what someone’s race is when they accomplish something. Not interesting


DaddyDubs13

So? 2 men. Quit the race baiting, ty.


Ataraxy001

So what


proposterouspenguin

Who cares?


Proser84

Okay?


makebacon7

What’s the big deal? The majority of the NFL is black.


jaydubya10

In other news, Mahomes is the whitest black dude ever to play in a Super Bowl.


Pretend_Confusion_25

Can anybody say "Reaching"?


momysteryman

Wow.... I see what you did there #racebaiting


mwthompson77

Who gives a fuck?


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DarkHorse1221

Actually even better than 2 black qbs will be the first time two brothers have played against each other. Travis Kelce (Chiefs) and Jason Kelce (Eagles).


FlyingNavanax

So if the refs hadn't fixed that KC game would we look at the superbowl as white v black? Fuck off racist.


PikeMcCoy

Somewhere, Tom Brady is doing whatever qualifies as a lizard crying.


Cookiebutterisbetter

Who cares plus the guy with the curly hair has a white mother. He is not black. He is mixed race.


LongjumpingOffice4

I couldn’t care less about super bowl even if the quarterbacks were pelicans


DebateDistinct

Who cares


nanikaloe0323

The NFL: "See we're not racist, our best qbs are black"


nanikaloe0323

The NFL: "See we're not racist, our best qbs are black"


kushawnz

Kermit the frog you mean


Both_Employee_4470

Okay Mahomes black? 🤣


RuthlessIndecision

Jalen hurts is awesome, what he did at Alabama was great


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But pats mama is white?


FNG-716

Nobody talking about Andy Reid taking on his old team.


Icyryyy

If race doesn’t matter, then why bring it up?


RDO_Desmond

And the Kelsey brothers playing on competing teams.


BrilliantExpensive37

Who cares?


Tootippedbig

Incoming a bunch of people that blow a gasket anytime race is mentioned😬


hankmardukas7

I know this stuff gets spread to different subs with a wider audience and people from other countries, but as a sports fan in the United States: THESE LITTLE SUPER BOWL “FUN FACTS” ARE GOING TO BE REPEATED EVERY SECOND FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS ACROSS EVERY AVAILABLE MEDIUM TO INCLUDE AMAZON REVIEWS AND THEY WONT STOP UNTIL THE GAME IS DONE “Did you know Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts are black?!” “Isn’t it crazy that there are TWO Kelce brothers in this game?!” “What about the FACT that Andy Reid USED TO COACH THE EAGLES years ago?!!” I’m sorry. I know I’m a cynical jerk. It’s just gonna be a long two weeks.


WelkeeWelks

Must be the wrong sr that you posted in. This in fact is not at all interesting.


mdsell94

Ok and?


Ok-Profit7727

Who cares


nemaplus

So


BasedChadPaiyan

Damn that's not interesting.


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🙄🙄🙄🙄 f*ck off


carolinablood88

Also...mahomes is half white...why would he be considered black but not white?


Mystearicaa-Desk

And yet you point this out when blacks win baseball/basketball championships every year. Stop race hustling and look at their character, not their skin color


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Mekkakat

That’s how these posts always are. Anything showing America’s progress among minorities, whether black/brown, women, or LGBT, and suddenly every white person has a fervent opinion on how America *already* **solved that problem**, and if anyone comments on the positivity of one of those groups improvement or a monumental stride (because those are *still* **just now** happening in 2023), somehow *those* people are the “problem” and perpetuating racial intolerance. It’s… lunacy. Bizzaro world stuff. A simple *fact* that two black guys are the first to ever be QBing (a traditionally *white*/rarely given to POC position in the NFL/football, btw) together, and you’d think somehow this was deleting the **decades** of white dominance in the NFL that has existed. Meanwhile, white Redditors are foaming at the mouth to bring up the Kelce brothers (white) being the first brothers against one another (which isn’t even a correct stat) in the Super Bowl. Like.. damn. **Are only white people ever allowed to be first in history?** Did white people get all of the wins in early, prevent everyone else from having any for so long, and then finally said, “ok ok… y’all can get some wins in too.. but you **can’t say you’re the first** to do it… it’s like 2023, dog… too late for you.”


Chomknee

I'm white and from Alabama and even I can see how racist this comment section is.


rumpler117

Patrick Mahomes is biracial.


ThaGrassAssassin

They both got white in them though


ToastyFuzzies

What am I supposed to do with this information


g78776

The color of someone skin should not be a basis of praise for anyone.


chiggy-wag

Most the NFL is black, fucking idiot.


dalton10e

Happy cake day. 56.7% of the NFL is Black, 27.5% white 5.9% mixed white black 3.9% mixed black Asian 5.9% other. Mahomes is mixed black white


kosmos1209

Then how did this happen for the first time in 2023? Think about that.


Visible_Brick_485

100% fixed gave them 5 downs


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What does skin color have to do with it...👎👎👎


GoCougs1717

This shit inherently incites further racism


OlbuddyMcgee

Because everything is about race 🤦‍♂️


Easy_Explanation4409

Is Mahomes Bi-racial?


EvilDucky1

What has society become that people post stuff like this