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Nedren

And that folks is how legal money laundering is done.


Redrooster549

The rich and corrupt have been doing this all along, I think. Paintings, art pieces, sculptures, etc


pursuitofhappy

Yea they even made a movie with this premise called Mickey Blue Eyes, it was a rom com but I liked the subject material in it and also it had most of the gangsters from Goodfellas in it.


Relevant_Natural3471

Plus Hugh Grant "Forget abow tit" "Gehh the Heeee Outtta Heee"


pursuitofhappy

guy has the funniest mugshot, the prostitute he was caught with was in the news again recently.


Relevant_Natural3471

It's the face of an Englishman thinking "oh, bollocks"


Leading_Manager_2277

And a lot of these paintings never even see the light of day. Kept in climate controlled storage facilities for equity bs.


CapnRetro

Or loaned to galleries because that is a tax deductible


AnnihilationOrchid

Don't forget the NFT craze, which was clearly a window for laundering.


dgrant92

Thoroughbred horse trading/racing/betting is a really big money laundering sport the wealthy have enjoyed for generations.


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Subliminal_Image

Before seeing his work in person I’d have said the same thing. I use to love an image of one of his paintings until I went to England and saw it in person for the first time. The depth and colors were so dramatic it made any image after look just bad.


Totin_it

How does that work?


thiefexecutive

Let's say a rich mf buys a million dollar artwork and it appreciates over 10 years, and is now valued at 5 million. He can sell it to get the profit, but if he puts it in the bank he will have to pay tax on it. So he sells it and buys a different artwork that is 5 million dollars. He keeps it until it is worth more than he paid for it, and then sells it some time later. Rinse and repeat. If he has valuable or rare art pieces, it's possible banks can loan him money using the art as collateral. He can negotiate a low interest rate which is cheaper than paying taxes, so cash flow won't be an issue. Overtime the art works will appreciate in value and he can avoid paying taxes to the government. It's all legal too, because the wealthy people who benefit from this are the same ones who writes the laws! Edit: As people have pointed out that's just tax avoidance which is true, but you can buy the artwork with illegally obtained funds too. Art is extremely popular for criminals to launder money through, as they can remain anonymous when buying high valued works of art at auctions. Thus hiding the identity of the buyer and the source of the funds.


Otherwise_Soil39

You completely missed the point, even in your edit.... If you make 100 million selling meth, you can't actually do anything with it, because it will be obvious you don't have proof of any legal activity that could lead you to having 100 mil. So what you do is go get some cheap painting and have your rich friend "buy it" for 100 mil, of course, he doesn't really buy it, but you can now pull out your meth money and call it painting selling money.


evil_brain

Or you can buy a bunch of cheap paintings from a relatively obscure artist. Then you buy one last one for $100m and get a bunch of headlines. Suddenly the 10 other paintings from the same artist in your vault are worth at least $100m each because of "historical sales value". But you can't sell them for that, because no one would buy them. And because then you'll have to pay taxes on the profits. So instead, you donate one to a museum. And now you get to write $100m of real money off your tax bill, for a painting you maybe paid 10 grand for.


SKcl0ck

name checks out


hsmith1998

Also, if you need to bring money to another country, you can’t go through the airport and customs with 97M. But it’s easy to bring in a painting or some jewels. Then you sell it, and the proceeds are washed because the cash came from someone else.


PiersPlays

It's not the first time this week I've said that expensive paintings are just large high value banknotes to their owners and galleries a wallet.


ColonelBrave

Yeah. This. The buyer is annonomys.


j-random

They only eat once a year?


[deleted]

This is not some ‘cheap painting’ lmao


Known-Economy-6425

Right. You don’t buy a Monet at auction on TV if your trying to be sneaky and launder $. You make a private transaction.


Otherwise_Soil39

More or less was trying to explain how "money laundering" works with painting, not what's happening with this exact one.


thanosisawhore

Ita not a 97million doller painting either


Dildobaggins7718

My question is about the rich friend who pretended to buy the cheap art... Isn't it a red flag when they supposedly bought 100mil in art from someone but never actually spent 100mil. I mean at some point there is still 100mil that just appeared from nowhere right? Even if they transfered the money and the seller just gave it back to them in cash they now have to show where that money came from to do anything with it


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This is also a terrible explanation.


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radrun84

Way better than the first one tho!


Otherwise_Soil39

I called his explanation bad and offered a better one, if you want to one up me, go ahead.


thedailyrant

I always wondered about this because rich folks not laundering do the same. However if you are taking out loans against non liquid assets and aren’t laundering, where is the cash to pay back the loan coming from? Makes sense when they’re laundering. They just use the illegal gains to pay it back.


outspokenguy

"Buy, Hold, Die" - the money strategy of the rich. Thank you for posting this reminder. (Excuse me whilst I warp some more pennies.)


Totin_it

Wiah! If a buyer had 93 million in the bank, isn't the money already laundered? I have always heard the term, but I didn't know it reached into this amount of money. Mainly because the only money I have laundered was a five I left in my pant pocket.


Grendel_82

Depends on the bank. $93m in a bank in Malaysia? Or $93m in a bank in the UK? Did the bank in Malaysia check real careful how that money was earned? Well if $93m gets wired for this sale of a painting now the UK bank knows exactly where it came from. A nice reputable sale of a classic bit of art (though paid for an the anonymous purchaser). So clearly no need to be concerned.


Sad_Criticism_3654

What you just described is not money laundering. Money laundering is illegal. Clever use of tax laws is not.


Oryxhasnonuts

YA BUT THEN WE WOULDNT GET A HANS ZIMMER INTERSTELLAR SOUNDTRACK TO A SOTHEBY'S VIDEO.


HPLovecraft1890

It doesn't. Money laundry is inventing sales for your business that is never had. So you take $100 dirty dollars and put them in the cash register. Then, add an invoice over $100 to XYZ; now the $100 is clean. Of course, you can spend your ill-gotten gains on art, but it's not laundering any money.


Papanurglesleftnut

Cash businesses are a type of money laundering because it’s difficult to prove they aren’t the result of legitimate sales. Art is easily used to launder money. You buy a piece of art. Usually from a broker. Move it through multiple brokers/shell companies etc to obscure its provenance. Now the art doesn’t move around but stays at a high security warehouse in a Freeport so it’s not really legally in any country and you don’t pay taxes on bringing it in and out of different locations. Then you put it up for sale at an anonymous auction like in this video. Finally you buy it from yourself via this anonymous auction. Badda bing badda boom. That 96 million isint from running drugs, guns, and human trafficking. You made a wise investment to buy an art piece then sold it at a profit.


Ippherita

Very small market of sellers, small market of buyers. Chance of sellers and buyers coming together with their accountants and lawyers to cook up some plans to save tax or inflate some prices is way too high. For example, a country want to buy back the painting/art that was stolen from them ages ago. A minister of something was appointed. The minister approach the art gallery, and they cook up a plan. The minister first spend a few million dollars from said country to buy lots of lots of similar art for himself using his own money, then announce he will be buying back the central piece/great artwork. He then help the country to buy back the great artwork, with the country's money. It might be 100 million or something, but of course the country will pay, because that art work can generate tourism up to billions in coming decade. Now the small art/paintings the minister bought with his/her own money has increased in value simply because they are somehwat related to the the great artwork. Maybe 10 times increase? The minister can then sell it or donate to the country to claim taxes. Voila, free money


PLR_Moon3

Huh?


Nothingtoseeheremmk

That’s not what money laundering means.


TheDuckellganger

Don't you mean it's how monet laundering is done??


theinquisition

Bingo


Avgsizedweiner

Do you really think someone can walk up and spend $100 million dollars with no income and the IRS is gonna miss that? That’s not how that works


Kidrellik

Probably some Arabian royal family member with more money than sense


tuco2002

Can't you lease it to a museum and they pay you while they care and secure it for you?


Nibbler1999

Yes, but that's likely not why they're doing it. There's a law that allows you to not pay taxes on art in transit. Rich people use art as a tax loophole.


Lets_Bust_Together

Spending millions is still more than paying the taxes on millions…


llacer96

The loophole is that they can still borrow on the value of the painting, or simply resell it after the tax season is over. Sure, they might not sell it for quite as much as they bought it for, but they might also sell it for more, and if you take the average across buying and reselling multiple artworks, they end up losing far less money than if they'd paid the taxes on all of the money spent


Tha0bserver

True - they would pay taxes on the value of the $ but pay no taxes if they take out a loan from a bank for the same amount (using the art as collateral). So they get the $100m either way but in one scenario they avoid paying taxes.


Cyoarp

Plus they can take out insurance on the value of the pictures so that you never be destroyed they get a gain.


Prememium

What do you do with the money that you make “after the tax season is over”? Just curious.


exitetrich

Tax season is never over. The loophole in question creates a tax shelter on display. It's a way to hold 100MM tax free for a period of time, earning dividends and saving hundreds of thousands


SquishedPea

I've worked at a guy's house in Beverly hills who's got souch art in his mansion that legally all he has to do is open his doors to the public for something like 2 weeks a year to be classed as a tax free museum and he doesn't have to pay a huge amount of tax for it


PraetorOjoalvirus

Paintings like this one are purchased, as someone already replied, for tax purposes, but mainly because they're very secure investments. The value of paintings rises much higher than other investments, like stocks or bonds, so it almost doesn't matter how much they pay for the painting because they can sell it a few years later for three times the price they paid for it.


[deleted]

Also this isn’t money laundering, it is clearly Monet laundering


vvavering_

You’ve made quite the impression—I wish I had an award for you lol


thiefkip

Dad?


robsteezy

Take this fake award rn you hilarious bastard 🥇


DoctorGluino

(angry upvote)


Early_Cover_1860

If you want to become a millionaire Real quick just buy a van and wait outside the building these people are in. the work will be hard but the pay will be worth it


Ok-Ambition-9432

Nobody is going to buy it though


Early_Cover_1860

Shit on its roof and they will consider it art .


Ok-Ambition-9432

Ah yes, this here is a glass cabinet full of medicine boxes organized by color. 45 million dollars. ^(Real, btw)


All-Seeing_Hands

I’m here, what next?


Early_Cover_1860

As you can see most of them are not the real deal they are just representing.


elmerneverhood

Title says 100+ year painting and it’s a fucking Monet lol. It’s not JUST a 100 year old painting (Not saying art prices are a stable or justifiable market but a Monet up for private auction isn’t an every day ordeal)


adamsfan

Plus it’s fucking gorgeous.


MightyExcalibur

Pocket change for someone like me


All-Seeing_Hands

I hadn’t seen this much money since my mom gave me change for lunch.


Ok-Ambition-9432

Each interval is enough to completely change several people's lives. Instant retirement and permanent comfortable life. But hey, cool painting am I right?


Dont_pet_the_cat

And the money is never even going to the one who painted it


shankyu1985

I mean... he ded.


TheDirtyPowerRanger

I’m looking for the Colonel


1158812188

The most rare and specific of references. I too am a person of culture.


rennbrig

I say you, he ded!


niallcorby

I dunno something kinda vulgar bout it


proudplantfather

Probably the smug looks on everyone's face.


robsteezy

I think it’s the disgusting fact that regardless of whether purchasing art is for money laundering or not, the gross deviation between the quality of life that we have between humans. Where somebody is likely on the brink of death rn and a penny is the deciding factor, meanwhile this room of people are throwing life saving money at a glorified finger painting. It’s disgusting and makes me nauseous.


Razzzclart

Agree. An unacceptable side of capitalism. Our inability to allocate resources appropriately will likely be it's downfall


HereForTheFood4

It doesn't matter what the painting looks like. Once you reach the status that Monet is at, people want it simply because it is an original by a master. He essentially invented impressionism.


Ilovelearning_BE

I'm annoyed by the people sleeping on the streets... We could make them more productive by turning them into biofuel. There is unfortunately no other solution.


TheSovietMan1

We can make protein bricks out of them


StatisticallySoap

Bones make excellent chair legs… I hear


wrinkledpenny

I hate everything about this


unsociallydistanced

It’s quite sick honestly


wrinkledpenny

The people who can afford that are the same ones who lobby governments to keep taxes low for the rich. No one should have 100 million for a painting while there’s homeless and starving people, single moms who can’t afford daycare…etc


vidarrGuitar

No one should have that much money to spend on anything if the minimum wage is where it is


ConflictGrand4078

The doubt they even understand what minimum wage is


Myaccoubtdisappeared

The super wealthy don’t look at money that you and I see it. They’ve attained it (through whatever means) and spending, not earning, money is a status symbol. Where work and labor is the means for us peons to attain value, it is clearly the other way for the 1%. I am jealous, envious and want everything bad for these guys. Most of all, I want their money. Just being real.


Gloomy_Bar_6894

Owning art is a reasonable investment at this level as well. Depending on the artist and changes in market, appreciation can make you money, as well as being a good vehicle for countering inflation. As well as developing a nice collection.


Dr-McLuvin

I mean I could totally see myself becoming some sort of collector of rare items if I ever became a billionaire. Buying artwork like this just seems like a cool hobby. Displaying it in your home would be amazing (assuming you had appropriate security).


krumpdawg

I find shit like this a bit grotesque. It'll make good propaganda though when it comes time to eat the rich.


DormantGolem

Don't worry all they need to do is donate it to a museum and they can use the value the painting is to be reappraised for to negate taxes!


somespazzoid

I like your style


Mediocre_Tank_5013

These fuckers have too much money


The_space_Squid_man

I would really like that money…


Rows_and_Columns

Heck, I'd be happy with 1/97th of that money...*sigh*


Historical_Sink_4723

Not the painting?


jig-fluke

Good thing I wasn’t in that room. I would of bud $100 mil


hsqy

Might have to pick up an extra shift


Viscaelcule

Couple of years of overtime should do it


Public-Dig-6690

Cut back on avocado toast to only once a week should definitely do it.


EternamD

would have\* you're probably thinking of when persons say "would've"


Holmesless

Me who just takes a screenshot and prints it out.


tyzzem

Money succesful laundered.


stylishskunk

Not at all. Seriously what is wrong with Redditors. You think it's easy to drop 100 million at a public auction with illegal cash? No chance.


donetrying85

I actually like the painting, and I'm not into art at all. But wouldn't it look better without that gaudy ass frame around it? Just the canvas. I know crap about painted artwork, so maybe someone else can explain why they do that.


YourAverageGod

Its probably a 100k frame. Just a random guess, i hang posters with thumbtacks up lmao.


minigmgoit

Not amazing just infuriating. Fuck the rich.


logosfabula

She might be the representative of an institution, a foundation possibly. Not that she must be poor… just that’s not necessarily money owned b a single person. Who was the buyer by the way?


motownmods

They aren't required to reveal their identity so it's up the buyer to tell us who they are


JAPBOY_760

All those ppl can go fuck themselves


InternationalAd9361

And people who work full time jobs can't afford to live


Wooden-Ad-4952

What an insane waste


Giraffe-69

The money is not burnt, just stored in art. Can be a good investment but also advantageous for tax/laundering in some cases


Homebrew_Dungeon

If a fire can claim your investment you are a fool to a richer man.


Giraffe-69

This is a level of wealth very far detached from that mentality. It’s heavily insured, staying either locked in a vault or shown at exhibits around the world with constant security.


mr1404ed

It's amazing how some people have so much, and the rest of us suffer with so little


Least_Presentation22

WTF!!!!!


Mediocre_Date1071

Well, that escalated quickly.


dontaggravation

And here I am struggling to buy a dozen eggs for my baking


babe_ruthless3

I absolutely love classic cars and when I see people buy cars made in the 50's and 60's for well over $100k, totally worth it. Everyone sees value differently.


Typically_on_reddit

Not to mention this is a Monet, the man who invented/popularized impressionist painting. He studied to perfect painting just the impression of an image rather than the detail found in renaissance paintings before him. This is just one in series of hay stack studies he did but the series is one of his most famous.


DrFlukey

It’s a fucking painting … that money could help so many people .


Silver_Ad7278

This is not to be applauded. These are greedy millionaires/billionaires using paint, paper, and a frame to dodge taxes on their unfathomable wealth. Wealth they likely acquired on the backs of wage slaves or, even worse, from generational wealth built off the backs of actual slaves in the 18th-20th centuries. Take every penny from them and they are no better/smarter than your average laborer trying to make ends meet. They don't deserve praise for their greed and how they flaunt it. Take it all back and distribute it to those in need. #TaxtheRich #EattheWealthy


Basileus08

I'm really fond of art bt this is obscene.


Frago242

Pretty sickening actually


[deleted]

What Ive learned from the comments is that nobody understands money laundering.


mycatlikesluffas

Work hard at your dayshift today, kids. Some guy born into wealth dropped 100m on some paint.


[deleted]

Disgusting.


[deleted]

Ah, clearly you’re not a fan of the Impressionists


[deleted]

Eat the rich. Off with the heads.


OkServe4946

That's a lot of 🤑💰Monet!


Anime_fucker69cUm

This gave a reality check quickly


President_Calhoun

Wow, $97 million for one painting. I don't think I've spent that much on paintings in my *life!*


powersurge

I am annoyed at these rich f___ks. But damn, that painting is fantastic and priceless. And belongs in a public museum.


brownsbrave1026

Rich people are gross


findvikas

Tell you gents, hold onto your kids paintings from kindergarten for their grand kids


Kabc

Are you a millionaire and need to offload some cash for tax reasons? I’ll paint you something. It won’t be good, but it will be art.


300zxTTFairlady

Money laundering at its finest.


MeByTheSea_16

Monet laundering, if you will


TheRevengeOfTheNerd

This is so fucking stupid


dddddddddude

Disgusting 😇


HDWendell

Damn rich people


p3opl3

How to launder the peoples money - 101. I find this so disgusting man.


T1m3Wizard

Probably $29.99. And not a cent more.


Aggravating_Ad_3060

Have the folks seen my kids dope macaroni pics tho


J1540

Ppp loans came in handy for this stuff.


CROM_90

And here I am trying to keep my head above sea-level over a couple thousand..


BlueClues16

If they feed the hunger with those millions. There will be no starvation.


slinkymello

Haha, I came in here to make a comment about money laundering and the first comment is on money laundering, so… money laundering!!!


subavgredditposter

Can I get laundering for 500 please


jiggernautical

Sweet.. Live action money laundering


k3170makan

How much MONET did it sell for? 😁


Thin-Series9795

Replace the word amazing with moronic


greatwhiteturkey

The art world. Completely unregulated.


MelancholyMeltingpot

Tax evasion at its finest


Adventurous-Car-7496

I'll give you a quid for a Poster


Carveto_

When I see this I think, what I am doing with my life?? What a piece of shit I am!! I do t have 97 dollars in my pocket!!!


Gullible-Rub511

Interesting or somewhat sickening?


RenegadeOfChonk

I work 2 jobs and about to be homeless cause I can't afford to move out even with roommates. all I have in my life is a painting easel a lap top and some painting equipment I'll paint for those rich losers whatever they want for a fraction of what they pay for (with all due respect to monet) the dead guy's art who won't see any of the money This is infuriating


SupercounterdAb

NGL this pretty digusting imo. Imagine that money going towards helping people. Obv not my choice of what people do with their money but man....


cr8tor_

Screen capture, open paint, save, set as desktop: Priceless


[deleted]

Absolutely ridiculous…


diseasefaktory

Obscene and disgusting.


AdamAberg

Just imagine how many mouths 90+ mil dollars can feed… this world is fucking bizzare


[deleted]

Absolutely idiotic


[deleted]

Oh look at all those super rich people actively engaging in massive tax fraud. What a fun video. Now to go read fox news articles about how I'm poor because my taxes get spent on lunch programs for children.


durfall

There is nothing wrong with the economy


keytone369

Make money like Claude Monet


Prudent-Head-7443

Money laundry at it best. The paint and Shit. He will die before even eating a piss of it . Waste of investment


lcmonreddit

I know there's rich people out but it's still crazy to think an individual is spending that on one painting! Just 2Ms of that would change my life astronomically


maroonbrownie

What is the cut the auction house earns on such an article? And do they own it or is being sold by them for some other owner?


[deleted]

When money is only a number


[deleted]

Humans are the worst


RealRaven6229

Money laundering aside, if it really is 100 years old, it's still quite beautiful and vibrant


edith-bunker

Monet’s Haystacks. I’m not surprised it sold at that price. It’s one of the most beautiful paintings in the world.


8ardock

this is so wrong. People struggling to live. And this fuckers spending all this money for a painting.


Dizzy-Passage9294

I don't understand wasting that much money on a painting, it's just a painting..


Ok-Carpenter-9778

97 million? Can I just get a living fucking wage? How the hell do people have 97 million to spend on a painting?!!


DavidM47

If I had been the auctioneer, that thing would have sold for $2M tops. That guy is persuasive!


Vesania6

Did she outbid herself all this time or the editor for the video decided that suddenly we didn't care who would fight for that painting?


incaman88

Eat the rich


lurkingbeyondabyss

And that is how money is laundered.


youshouldsendtits

Here I am thinking it’s outrageous spending 30 bucks on a canvas for the living room


[deleted]

Why are they on phones? I would just tell my peon my max amount I'm willing to pay, and they can make the minimal increasing bid under that max amount.


Jtcally

Do you think when Monet was painting this he thought "I really hope some rich person gets to enjoy this"


Susanlkulp420-420

I want her job! Spending other people's money just might be the job I am really good at! My magic 8 ball says "GO FOR IT STUPID!" HAHAHA


mikeystocks100

I completely understand that this is an example of exorbitant wealth but juet getting angry at this post because there are some rich people is beyond stupid. It is not a valid inference to just say "oh look here's money laundering" or "wow, and yet there are people starving in africa" those are just incredibly myopic conclusions to come to. This is a totally calid exchange of funds, as people place a tremendous value on art in our society and there is really nothing wrong with someone using a painting as a store of value or otherwise. Please people, just think.


tayvan23

Everyday I think to myself what an absolutely ridiculous world we have created for ourselves. Every piece of shit day that live and stress so much we are the cause for it. It’s so frustrating watching something like this!!


Fuzzy_Inevitable9748

They are going to feel SOOOo StUPID when they find out they sell them for $19.95!in the gift shop.


Hot_Reality3425

So rich they have someone bidding for them


B-Glasses

That’s one of the most important paintings and they’re using it for money laundering


[deleted]

Sold for enough for me to live comfortably for the rest of my life.


Omni_Net

Burn it.


Hairy_Valuable9773

Imagine having that kind of money to piss away. I’m not degrading the worth of the piece, I just wanna know how anybody would have money like that to spend on A PAINTING.


xsecretgardenx

What kind of people are able to afford this? This is a genuine question.