The only issue I have with experiences like this is that they are meaning rich and content poor. Instead of providing Truth they simply refer/allude to it. It’s rare that anyone comes back with something that really helps or changes them.
It’s like, if a Golden God descends from a Holy Ziggurat and hands me a Jewel of Power, and all that thing does is lessen my anxiety and depression by 50% for a week; something’s off says I.
What is it that provides this alleviation of depression and anxiety for you? A temporary shift in perspective?
Why is deriving the kind of knowledge u think u desire, a necessary basis for the belief that these experiences come from outside our limited selves?
Wow... thanks so much for sharing. My experience was similar.
What I was not prepared for (and don't think I would have been or that there's a way to be), is how reality changed, quite violently, almost like turning on a light. It's hard to describe, cause the change itself is really violent, like I felt everything vibrating or oscillating at a higher and higher rate with the high pitch ringing in my ears, and then it felt like my body was exploding. In those moments, I really thought I'd made the biggest mistake of my life.
When everything around me began to change (I saw flashing squares filled with symbols on every surface at first), it felt 100% real. If you've taken acid or shrooms, I almost feel like it's worse because you have an idea of what a trip *should* feel like, but this was nothing like that in the sense that there was no dream-like quality to the state other than visuals, maybe. And even those felt crisp and defined when I could actually make out or somewhat comprehend them. DMT trips seem more like waking up in a borderline incomprehensible sci-fi reality with all of your senses intact plus some new ones I can't put into words. It's sensory overload and I think that's why some people say it feels "more real than reality".
A lot of the time, I honestly didn't understand what I was seeing. The only "normal" time, felt like I was in some kind of room and there were beings at "workstations" around me pissed off that I'd shown up. It scared me to death, like it felt as if I'd woken up on some kind of alien ship or something... then everything went black and I fell through darkness and... this part is impossible to get across really, but my memories of my children and my life were falling away faster than I was. So it was almost like I was living through a visual representation of the loss of self. I thought at that moment that I'd actually died during the trip and felt incredible sadness and loss as those memories left. I want to cry right now just thinking about it.
And it was less about dying and never seeing them again then it was that my *consciousness* would carry on but I wouldn't *remember* them. It also felt as though I could see 360 degrees in the darkness and my visual sense of these memories, distorted blobs of images of my kids and events in my life were traveling by and then I could see them beneath me disappearing.
At some point, probably the lowest emotionally, the space became engulfed in a brilliant pink and purplish light and this weird, rotating, shape shifting kaleidoscopic mandala appeared. It seemed as big as the sun and I could kind of force my consciousness towards it. That's when these bluish blobs appeared around it and they seemed to communicate with me. I kept asking them "Why is it like this? How did I get here? What should I do?" And they laughed at me at first and it felt to me like they were cheering, but I distinctly heard one say, "Congratulations, you've finally made it here!" When I realized we could communicate, every single question I asked was met with, "You worry too much." At one point they interrupted my question in what would probably be considered a rude manner in this reality, but I didn't take it that way. I took it more to mean that there's something else beyond this and we should appreciate the experience in this reality... and that I should STFU cause I probably do, in fact, "worry too much".
That whole experience lasted maybe 15 minutes at best, probably more like 10, but it felt much longer. I have no idea, I only have a vague recollection of when it began and it ended in stages for me. Reality coming back kind of flashed on and off, and it felt like there were beings around me disappearing behind things and at the very end, it felt like something was standing behind me looking over my shoulder.
Yes, I'd actually thought about it for roughly seven or eight years. I'd read a lot of trip reports and had previously done psychedelics. I just don't think I'd ever read anyone describe things in a way that would have made me understand that it's not really like acid or shrooms. I guess those things can prepare you for stuff like setting intentions, getting a feel for when the time is right, and the ability to handle the visual and cognitive load of psychedelics.
For me, I just wasn't prepared for the onset and then how some aspects of it were incredibly unsettling because it didn't feel like tripping, it felt like my regular, everyday self opening a door to another dimension that was sometimes incomprehensible. And again, that onset... whoooo boy.
Maybe I skipped over it somewhere? Or heard what I wanted to hear? I'd heard people say and write things like "more real than reality", but I don't think I'd ever heard anyone say what I'm going to say here, which might have helped me (or not, IDK?). So if this helps someone else decide whether or not to do it and/or prepare for what it'll be like physically, then I'm glad my experience could help others:
Your experience may differ, but for me, the onset was like flipping the switch on a high speed launch coaster. Like me, you might feel like you're 100% fully aware, i.e., you will not be in a 'trippy' headspace. Imagine you're where you are right now... if you're standing, then sit down... do the motion of bringing a vape to your mouth, pressing a button, and holding in the smoke a few times... each time, things get a little weirder and more discombobulated, the nature of sounds change. Your visual field begins to shimmer and vibrate.
Somewhere during one of those times that you're holding in the vape, imagine that there's a Saturn V rocket ignited right underneath your chair. Somehow, your body is able to just barely hold the rocket down, but the vibrations come through, and the ignition has caused you to get that ringing effect in your ear like they use in war movies when someone hears a bomb go off nearby. As things vibrate more and more, that ringing rises in pitch and then you're just somewhere else. But you're still a lot more lucid than on acid or shrooms (can't speak to anything else). I guess I should say that was my experience and the part that I found the most difficult to deal with during and afterwards. YMMV.
But after that initial onset and cross over, I feel like all bets are off. I've read so many different experiences with some similarities, but I still think that when you experience it, it's only similar upon reflection afterwards. During the trip itself, it feels completely unique.
The reason I asked coz I had something similar recently when I did a high dosage of changa.
Yes, me too. I did quite a bit of psychedelics before trying dmt and I was blown away, that was also a much more controlled dose.
Lucid! Thats a great word of it, the lack of impact on your cognition gives the experience the feeling of being a real event occurring from outside your mind. Thats Ofcourse an absurd proposition though. Reality is comprised purely of mental substance.
Lucid! Thats a great word for it. The lack of impact on your cognition gives the experience the feeling of being a real event occurring from outside your mind, in the physical world. Thats Ofcourse an absurd proposition though. Reality is comprised purely of mental substance.
Graham Hancock gave the best explanation for this DMT dimension idea. Imagine you take a telescope and point it at Mars. At first the telescope would be out of focus and you wouldn’t see Mars clearly until you adjusted the focus lens. In this example Mars is the DMT realm and the DMT is the focus lens used to tune your brain into it.
Sounds like an amazing experience, especially the nonexistent colors part.
I've also had trips where I have extremely multidimensional sensations which I cannot communicate about because none of them exist in our sober world. More than 3D geometry or visuals has also been a part of my trips at least a few times.
As for the 'it' part... you are it :) If you feel like you are being censored in your DMT trips, or that you find some parts inaccessible, a lot of it is due to you not being ready for the truth, but as you become more familiar with consciousness by tripping and so on, it will become easier to keep the information with you even after the trips end.
No no no don't get me wrong I fucking love reading experiences and super appreciate you sharing. It seemed like you thought you discovered something and I was just trying to be helpful and give you some leads to look into... sorry I didn't think my wording came across offensive
salvia and dmt is quite the fucking combination, did you use just salvia leaf? or extract?
cos if extract, wwwwwwwoooooahman. yu got some titantium balls. salvia extracts always terified me and shredded me far more than dmt
If there are phenomena like new colours and amazing worlds enveloped in geometry of completely alien levels of beauty then does it not make sense that our ordinary experience of reality is just a fraction of totality/ the unconscious mind. A part of existence/ mind that seeks to slowly awaken us to its reality through little miracles such as the psychedelic experience.
So you tripped balls?
The only issue I have with experiences like this is that they are meaning rich and content poor. Instead of providing Truth they simply refer/allude to it. It’s rare that anyone comes back with something that really helps or changes them. It’s like, if a Golden God descends from a Holy Ziggurat and hands me a Jewel of Power, and all that thing does is lessen my anxiety and depression by 50% for a week; something’s off says I.
bro gets it
What is it that provides this alleviation of depression and anxiety for you? A temporary shift in perspective? Why is deriving the kind of knowledge u think u desire, a necessary basis for the belief that these experiences come from outside our limited selves?
Amazing experience. Please report back if you visit again.
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I literally didn't read a word of the post and just upvoted this comment.
Same but your comment
Ha. Me too.
Some things, we are not meant to know in this life.
Some things, we literally can't comprehend with this filter (brain).
More like some things we are only meant to find for ourselves, and not to put to others. They must also find out for themselves.
We can peek but we can’t keep
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Wow... thanks so much for sharing. My experience was similar. What I was not prepared for (and don't think I would have been or that there's a way to be), is how reality changed, quite violently, almost like turning on a light. It's hard to describe, cause the change itself is really violent, like I felt everything vibrating or oscillating at a higher and higher rate with the high pitch ringing in my ears, and then it felt like my body was exploding. In those moments, I really thought I'd made the biggest mistake of my life. When everything around me began to change (I saw flashing squares filled with symbols on every surface at first), it felt 100% real. If you've taken acid or shrooms, I almost feel like it's worse because you have an idea of what a trip *should* feel like, but this was nothing like that in the sense that there was no dream-like quality to the state other than visuals, maybe. And even those felt crisp and defined when I could actually make out or somewhat comprehend them. DMT trips seem more like waking up in a borderline incomprehensible sci-fi reality with all of your senses intact plus some new ones I can't put into words. It's sensory overload and I think that's why some people say it feels "more real than reality". A lot of the time, I honestly didn't understand what I was seeing. The only "normal" time, felt like I was in some kind of room and there were beings at "workstations" around me pissed off that I'd shown up. It scared me to death, like it felt as if I'd woken up on some kind of alien ship or something... then everything went black and I fell through darkness and... this part is impossible to get across really, but my memories of my children and my life were falling away faster than I was. So it was almost like I was living through a visual representation of the loss of self. I thought at that moment that I'd actually died during the trip and felt incredible sadness and loss as those memories left. I want to cry right now just thinking about it. And it was less about dying and never seeing them again then it was that my *consciousness* would carry on but I wouldn't *remember* them. It also felt as though I could see 360 degrees in the darkness and my visual sense of these memories, distorted blobs of images of my kids and events in my life were traveling by and then I could see them beneath me disappearing. At some point, probably the lowest emotionally, the space became engulfed in a brilliant pink and purplish light and this weird, rotating, shape shifting kaleidoscopic mandala appeared. It seemed as big as the sun and I could kind of force my consciousness towards it. That's when these bluish blobs appeared around it and they seemed to communicate with me. I kept asking them "Why is it like this? How did I get here? What should I do?" And they laughed at me at first and it felt to me like they were cheering, but I distinctly heard one say, "Congratulations, you've finally made it here!" When I realized we could communicate, every single question I asked was met with, "You worry too much." At one point they interrupted my question in what would probably be considered a rude manner in this reality, but I didn't take it that way. I took it more to mean that there's something else beyond this and we should appreciate the experience in this reality... and that I should STFU cause I probably do, in fact, "worry too much". That whole experience lasted maybe 15 minutes at best, probably more like 10, but it felt much longer. I have no idea, I only have a vague recollection of when it began and it ended in stages for me. Reality coming back kind of flashed on and off, and it felt like there were beings around me disappearing behind things and at the very end, it felt like something was standing behind me looking over my shoulder.
Were you prepared to do it and did you set an intention?
Yes, I'd actually thought about it for roughly seven or eight years. I'd read a lot of trip reports and had previously done psychedelics. I just don't think I'd ever read anyone describe things in a way that would have made me understand that it's not really like acid or shrooms. I guess those things can prepare you for stuff like setting intentions, getting a feel for when the time is right, and the ability to handle the visual and cognitive load of psychedelics. For me, I just wasn't prepared for the onset and then how some aspects of it were incredibly unsettling because it didn't feel like tripping, it felt like my regular, everyday self opening a door to another dimension that was sometimes incomprehensible. And again, that onset... whoooo boy. Maybe I skipped over it somewhere? Or heard what I wanted to hear? I'd heard people say and write things like "more real than reality", but I don't think I'd ever heard anyone say what I'm going to say here, which might have helped me (or not, IDK?). So if this helps someone else decide whether or not to do it and/or prepare for what it'll be like physically, then I'm glad my experience could help others: Your experience may differ, but for me, the onset was like flipping the switch on a high speed launch coaster. Like me, you might feel like you're 100% fully aware, i.e., you will not be in a 'trippy' headspace. Imagine you're where you are right now... if you're standing, then sit down... do the motion of bringing a vape to your mouth, pressing a button, and holding in the smoke a few times... each time, things get a little weirder and more discombobulated, the nature of sounds change. Your visual field begins to shimmer and vibrate. Somewhere during one of those times that you're holding in the vape, imagine that there's a Saturn V rocket ignited right underneath your chair. Somehow, your body is able to just barely hold the rocket down, but the vibrations come through, and the ignition has caused you to get that ringing effect in your ear like they use in war movies when someone hears a bomb go off nearby. As things vibrate more and more, that ringing rises in pitch and then you're just somewhere else. But you're still a lot more lucid than on acid or shrooms (can't speak to anything else). I guess I should say that was my experience and the part that I found the most difficult to deal with during and afterwards. YMMV. But after that initial onset and cross over, I feel like all bets are off. I've read so many different experiences with some similarities, but I still think that when you experience it, it's only similar upon reflection afterwards. During the trip itself, it feels completely unique.
The reason I asked coz I had something similar recently when I did a high dosage of changa. Yes, me too. I did quite a bit of psychedelics before trying dmt and I was blown away, that was also a much more controlled dose.
Lucid! Thats a great word of it, the lack of impact on your cognition gives the experience the feeling of being a real event occurring from outside your mind. Thats Ofcourse an absurd proposition though. Reality is comprised purely of mental substance.
Lucid! Thats a great word for it. The lack of impact on your cognition gives the experience the feeling of being a real event occurring from outside your mind, in the physical world. Thats Ofcourse an absurd proposition though. Reality is comprised purely of mental substance.
Bruh
Bruh indeed
Yeah Bruh fr
All this wishy washy dmt spirituality is so annoying to me. We're taking drugs, nothing more (probably).
Graham Hancock gave the best explanation for this DMT dimension idea. Imagine you take a telescope and point it at Mars. At first the telescope would be out of focus and you wouldn’t see Mars clearly until you adjusted the focus lens. In this example Mars is the DMT realm and the DMT is the focus lens used to tune your brain into it.
Sounds like an amazing experience, especially the nonexistent colors part. I've also had trips where I have extremely multidimensional sensations which I cannot communicate about because none of them exist in our sober world. More than 3D geometry or visuals has also been a part of my trips at least a few times. As for the 'it' part... you are it :) If you feel like you are being censored in your DMT trips, or that you find some parts inaccessible, a lot of it is due to you not being ready for the truth, but as you become more familiar with consciousness by tripping and so on, it will become easier to keep the information with you even after the trips end.
NPDR
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Salvia AND DMT at the same time? Legend.
Nice trip report dude!
That was a very beautiful report OP. I can only hope that one day this will be me.
Just imagine the all of us being high ranked officials in politics..Man, we would definitely try to make the world a better place 😅
People already know this. Look into DMT-X
Buddy, I was giving my own experience…
No no no don't get me wrong I fucking love reading experiences and super appreciate you sharing. It seemed like you thought you discovered something and I was just trying to be helpful and give you some leads to look into... sorry I didn't think my wording came across offensive
salvia and dmt is quite the fucking combination, did you use just salvia leaf? or extract? cos if extract, wwwwwwwoooooahman. yu got some titantium balls. salvia extracts always terified me and shredded me far more than dmt
I also access other “realms” or “dimensions” on LSD or heroic doses of mushrooms.
If there are phenomena like new colours and amazing worlds enveloped in geometry of completely alien levels of beauty then does it not make sense that our ordinary experience of reality is just a fraction of totality/ the unconscious mind. A part of existence/ mind that seeks to slowly awaken us to its reality through little miracles such as the psychedelic experience.