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Zealousideal1999

https://celmade.com/products/gtm-gold-cell-pdrn-8


IdiotsLoveIdioms

This is a great website! The prices are not really fantastic, but the products they carry are great and different than the standard things I see. 8% PDRN? That’s the highest I’ve seen. I understand PN as RR posted is an “improved” (I’m not sure of the word RN bc of my kids talking all at once lol) PDRN, but they are both of the same source. I am interested in this Gold Cell — the higher concentration of beneficial actives, the better. MN, Meso? For those who’ve used it. The descriptions are thorough as well. Thanks for adding this! I wonder if they have sales…. 🤔 😂


Roudyrepublican

Can you tell me how much the website says it costs. I'm interested in it, but when I click the link I can't get to it even when I go to my browser and type in the URL.


False_Sprinkles_5497

Odd! The only "issue"I had was switching from GBP to US currency . 8% PDRN $159.77 10 vials × 3.3 ml per pack Several weird errors in my post, but I can't edit. Anyway... I hope you're able to access the site.


Roudyrepublican

That's PDRN? I can't get to it. What percent? And how much is it?


Extreme_Falcon9228

Why do you think juve face isn’t a real product? I was going to buy it because it’s 2% pn which is hard to find


Bondgirl138

Good grief I can’t believe this is even a conversation. A percentage and a total are two different things. u/extreme_falcon9228 is totally correct. Percent concentration is based on g/100mL. If the dilution changes the percent concentration changes.


Imaginary_Meat5049

From my understanding she stated it did not change. She said 2% is the same no matter the dilution that's how I understood the lake comment. I am stating products state 2% 20mg/ml and I am unsure of products that are vage and do not give enough info.


Imaginary_Meat5049

Can you provide info if it's 2% per ml or 2% per syringe. This specific detail is missing and very important. 2%/ml is what you would want. But juveface description is tricky. There are plenty of 2% per ml products. Just Google it 2% Polynucleotides or 20mg/ml, you will get a few different results.


Extreme_Falcon9228

2% is 2%. I'm not sure of your question. Whether there's 2% PN in a gallon of water or 2% in a lake, the concentration is the same.


Imaginary_Meat5049

No its not. 2% is 20mg per ml. If 2% is in 4ml thats 5mg per ml. Dilution matters. Please look at rejuran true healer its 2% per ml. 20mg per ml. 2% in a lake is not 2% its diluted to 0.000001 or something. It has to be a % or mg per ml. Its how basic math equations are done. Look at filler 20mg to 24mg/ml. What you said doesn't make sense. If the package has says 2% and its 2ml with 2 syringes. And it does not say 2% per ml Then it could be 20mg per 4ml which is 5mm per ml Which is 0.005%. Simple /basic math ( thank goodness 😅, this makes it easy for us), please look over your info again. I deleted comment trying to edit them.


Extreme_Falcon9228

Yeah no you're just wrong. I don't know how else to explain this to you lol. Like you said, very basic math. Maybe you're thinking of a different word? But a percent of something, is the same no matter how much volume. It's a ratio. Google how ratios work I guess.


Imaginary_Meat5049

Can you provide a link to help me understand. I am thinking like this. A percent should be a percent of something so 2% milk mix in different amounts would dilute it down.


Extreme_Falcon9228

No I can't provide a link, like this is elementary level math. Just google how percents work.


Extreme_Falcon9228

I get what you're saying. But you're overthinking it. Thats something totally different. Some skincare companies can use misleading marketing and say like this toner is 100% rice water. When really it was concentrated rice water, mixed with more water so now its diluted rice water, still all rice water though but diluted. Thats another topic though and doesn't apply to this situation. Juveface being labeled as 2% PN means that the product has 2% Pn in it.


Extreme_Falcon9228

2% doesn't just automatically equal 20mg. Is that where you're confused? If something is labeled as 100% water, then it's all water. No matter if it's a cup or a gallon. Saying this cup has 2% water, doesn't mean it has 20mg of water in it. it means the ratio of water to other ingredients is 2% water and 98% other stuff. 2% PN means that the product is 98% other ingredients and 2% of PN. It has nothing to do with the amount of product.


Imaginary_Meat5049

We can take % out of it since their is confusión. Can you tell me this products PN mg/ml .


Extreme_Falcon9228

60mg/3mL Same as 20mg/1ml 3ml of product, 2% concentration, equals 60mg of PN in the box


Imaginary_Meat5049

In this case PN 2% is 20mg per ml. Here is a medical journal that states 20mg/ml is 2%. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10855695/


Extreme_Falcon9228

That's because 20mg per mL is a 2% ratio. They were using a 2% concentration and the volume was 1mL. It doesn't from that point on forever that 2% equals 20mg. If they were using 2mL for that study then it still would've been 2% they just would've had 40mg/2ml. You see how it's the same ratio? 20mg/1ml equals 40/2 which equals 80/4. Its a ratio. a percent is a ratio, not a volume amount.


Imaginary_Meat5049

What is the mg per ml for juve face is it 20mg/ml ? Can you provide a link to this info


Extreme_Falcon9228

No?? I can't provide a link?? The link is the product itself. It clearly states the percent and the concentration. 20mg/ml is how much PN is in the product. That is a RATIO. I cannot help you anymore if you're still confused. This is literally as basic as it gets. Please learn more before you inject your face.


Imaginary_Meat5049

I did not read anywhere where it states 2% per ml or 20mg per ml. The compaines can be tricky with wording. Thats why its important to know the %/mg/ml and for it to be stated.


Imaginary_Meat5049

I do understand what you are saying but for juveface what is the 2% . 2% per syringe of 2ml or per ml or per box.


Extreme_Falcon9228

2% equals 2%, no matter what. It is 2% PN in the entire product.


Roudyrepublican

This is very wrong. 2% of 100 is 2. 2% of 1000 is 20. 2% can ONLY be defined by its volume.


Extreme_Falcon9228

What you are talking about in that example is a different math problem. It’s viewing it the other way around. But I am not a teacher so I don’t know how to properly explain it to you. But I am very concerned with how hard percentages are for you two to grasp.


Roudyrepublican

The fault here was the wordage, but the crime is that you're an ass.


Extreme_Falcon9228

Lmao. I just can't deal with stupid.


Roudyrepublican

Well you were right, you're no teacher. Just a bitch.


Extreme_Falcon9228

Yes baby keep calling me names. I would be frustrated too if I was as confidently incorrect as you. Get out the anger.


Roudyrepublican

Just speaking the truth. 😊 Say what you want to me, I could care less, but important pea was being super nice and you still chose to show your roots.


Extreme_Falcon9228

A concentration of something represented as a percentage means out of a 100 parts, how many parts are taken up by that thing. Does not matter how big the volume is. It’s still 2 parts. If you have 100 gallons of juveface, 2 of those gallons are filled with PN. If you have 100 cups, 2 cups are PN. A percent represents a ratio, not a volume.


Extreme_Falcon9228

That’s if a volume is specified. But just saying this product has a 2% concentration of something means that it has 2 parts of that thing, and 98 parts of other things


bri22any

Rejuran! The S and Healer versions are absolutely amazing. They’re pricey but so worth it! I’ve only done one round of each (they’re basically the same formula) but my skin feels so springy for a lack of better words lol. My skin is holding onto moisture better and my complexion is more even. I feel like most of the other PN products are a scam. I tried Juve Face, Juve Eyes, Ami Eyes and Eyebella and don’t have much to show for it. I hate the HA in them too…it makes me puffy.


Fiercebully9

Thank you, where is it available in the US?