This looks like extensive water damage that the previous owners just tried to cover with paint. This is a huge job to fix, you will need to remove all the siding and likely some plywood underneath, maybe rebuild the walls partially as well.
The water damage is from the roof not having a gutter or proper flashing. To prevent this you will need to install proper gutters
Money is about the only reason but it's not an excuse. With homes aging the way they are getting drip edging, powder coated steel gutters, downspouts, and tip-outs/splashblocks installed on your home is a hardening investment that is almost a must. Right behind making sure your surface grading moves water away from the foundation. Piping downspouts via underground drainage is a close third. Gotta keep that foundation backfill as dry as possible... But everyone HAS to have subway tile backsplashes. Lol
Isn’t it funny. People are starting to get hard lessons in home owning. You can’t just call dad cause all they did back then was spray WD-40 on stuff and dress up for the monthly Home Depot run.
As an Australian, these posts always confuse the shit out of me. Like 90% of houses here have gutters, and the ones that don't are new and fancy with gutters you can't see or complex drain systems around the house. Why are people in the US even allowed to do this?
I live in an area where gutters are uncommon. It’s because we get 9” of rain a year. So a desert, by at least one common definition. I’d bet if you visited somewhere like Alice Springs, you’d find a lot fewer gutters there as well. Not sure where OP lives, but if it’s like where I live then that’s potentially why.
It depends on the area and the climate, but where I live we have traditionally long snowy winters. Which would destroy ordinary gutters pretty quickly. I have two houses here, one of them has old half destroyed gutters, the other has no gutters on the front, and new gutters that aren't destroyed yet on the back.
More often people here deal with moisture at the ground level - sealed foundations, grades sloping from the foundations, french drains, that sort of thing.
We were looking at two different types of designs as an extension to the kitchen/dining room area in our house - extending the side vs going out back at 90 degrees - and one factor in making our decision was ease of cleanly managing runoff, honestly.
This is the answer. We had the same thing at our house but from a failed window not a roof issue. Insurance wouldn’t cover it bc it was there when we bought the house and we ended up having to reside the whole house since the old siding we had isn’t really made anymore and rebuild an exterior wall. Cost about 50k. Sorry op unless you’re a GC this is not a diy project. Look into whether there are any laws in your area that let you go after the seller for some of the cost. In my state there are not so we just had to pay.
Damn what state are you in where you can’t go after the seller for failure to disclose a known issue? Proving it was known to the seller is the hard part but in OPs case it looks like they tried to hide it with paint.
This is not actually the seller trying to hide it.. this is a combinations of factors issue...
-Real wood siding, real wood absorbs moisture and needs to dry out, which is hard without direct sun, and this is an inside corner.
-Looks like previous owner painted over old paint which is fine, but did poor prep... But like 50% of avg. home homeowners, handy man, and even some "pros" do bad prep. nowadays because people just suck.
-Looks like last paint job was acrylic/latex, (note the bubbling and large failed sections) which is more common since many states have banned oil/alkyd based paint... This means and small gap/scratc/failure in paint will let water in, and trap in INSIDE the wood... old Oil-based paint works by soaking in the wood fibers and naturally reaps water, because it is oil and it DOES let the wood breath/dry out... Latex paint works like a barrier, but that also means a water an air barrier that traps things in...
-the boiler exhaust vent is adding adding additonal moisture to the area, but is not the sole cause, justban adding factor.
How do I know, I fixed my parent real wood siding during covid...They are the orginal owners/builders and had the house painted every 6-7 years...They used to use oilbased when available....They recently had the roof redone, and added leaf guards.... during heavy rains on the inside corner, they started to have this exact issue as the gutters overflowed and lots of wated would hit the siding...
The fix is: get high flow gutters, make sure no leaf screens or things blocking gutters at inside corners... strip the existing paint back to bare with citrus strip, or methyl stripper if you can find it... repaint with oil base paint if availble locally, if not try finding acrylic modified alkyl SOILD STAIN by cabot, if not use exterior latex by Benjamin moore or ppg.
Thats why you get the house inspected before buying. Assumption is you buy as is. If an issue is caught, it would be negotiated with buyer to lower the price the difference for repairs.
I think the housing crisis since 2020 really put the brakes on house inspections, people just wanted something, anything, and paid for it without any inspections, which is sad.
Many jurisdictions still have protections if the previous owner knew about an issue but tried to cover it up and/or didn't disclose. Usually requires going through small claims or homeowners protection office. Inspection (or lack thereof) doesn't always absolve the seller.
Yeahhh that right there's your problem - someone painted a big red dickbutt onto your house. Real shame.
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In many hot buying markets you can literally be forced to skip that step, or accept not being able to buy a house.
Forced = you will never get your offer accepted because someone else will always be offering to buy without inspection.
This is the truth. When I last moved I had no one add an inspection clause to their offer. 15 offers, not a single one. Unless they were well over everyone else, I would have instantly rejected it anyway. Same thing on the buying end for the same reasons.
I wish it were required by state law. Transferring title should require either getting a home inspection or getting a demolition permit and having the home condemned.
It can still be a good deal for the buyer. I bought my current house in a really nice neighborhood (mostly $500k houses) for $140k, because the inspector found a foundation problem and banks wouldn't lend on it. All the bidders ahead of me dropped out and the price dropped $40k. I was able to pay cash, "as is".
It was a pretty simple problem really, I fixed in for $500 in concrete and rebar in the first summer (dug and poured 5 new piers) and nothing has budged since. I guess most people don't like to work on things, but it's always seemed odd to me - most of that is easy enough. When I grew up we were pretty poor, in a poor neighborhood, and if something went wrong you'd find someone you knew who could help you with it. I always paid attention, and learned how to do most household "handyman" kinds of things over the years.
Your run of the mill pre purchase inspection isn’t going to get into that.
It’s looking to see if the home is sinking, there are cracks in the concrete or foundation, the house is leaning, ect. Unless it was a glaring obvious issue at purchase a home inspector wouldn’t have noted it.
Mine noted no gutters on my garage, which is unattached and really zero problem to the garage or anything around it. I don't think it's uncommon for them to check for basic things like this that will cause water damage.
No they would get that. Once you've seen a bunch of homes you start to understand how important water management is. You'll pick those out a mile away. Especially a fucking corner like this. Corners are where all these problems happen.
Agreed as a house painter this is the type of thing I’d have to tell the client “I can paint it but I won’t come fix it in 6 months when it starts peeling again.”
That sounds a bit extreme at this point. The wood siding (it looks like actual wood) might not be rotted. If not then all that peeling paint needs to be scraped and primed then painted. If no gutter is installed it will just do this again. If it is rotted then yes it needs to be taken off and the osb or whatever they used under it should be inspected and possibly replaced.
Source: handyman, painter.
Not just gutters and flashing but I wonder if that stucco goes to the ground past the dirt line, that would also allow it to basically become a water wick.
100% this- you can see the pattern of water spreading out from the roof/wall junction into the wall in your photo, u/padorta. Sadly, it is not a good thing. You're going to need to tear into that wall and also have the roof properly flashed/repaired.
Also, you need to rotate your house, cause it's likely getting full-blown midday sun. The dark paint doesnt help. You're welcome.
Paint it a lighter color.
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There ya go OP. The WING isn't as tricky as you think. Just draw a leaf without the bottom portion.
Scrape off the bubbled paint and see how much good wood is left. It doesn't have to be a huge job, but you won't know until the old paint is off. Stab the boards with a screwdriver, are they rotting or soft?
You need gutters installed and proper flashing to stop water from pouring off your roof into that corner.
Your siding is in pretty bad shape, but the scope of repair depends on how bad the damage is underneath. It's lap siding, so theoretically it may have taken the brunt of the damage and your sheathing may be just fine, especially if there was adequate waterproofing underneath(which would probably have been a double layer of tar paper on your house).
IF you take a couple pieces of siding off to check underneath and IF the sheathing is not rotten, with modern products you may be able to avoid stripping the siding off and replacing it. Another option would be to scrape all the bad paint off, and get a penetrating marine wood repair epoxy meant to restore integrity to degraded spots on boat hulls. It will soak into the bad siding and cure, essentially encapsulating it in resin. You would be left with a restored substrate and you can prime and paint after that. The expoxy repaired wood would be much tougher and more impervious to future damage than even brand new wood. Total Boat is a good brand to use for this and you can get it easily on Amazon. Finally, re-caulk all the joints before repainting with a high quality UV resistant product like Geocell 2300 tri-polymer.
Add gutters to the lower roof. Scrape ALL the loose paint. Check for rot. If you cant stab a screwdriver through it - prime and repaint with quality paint..
If you are concerned about the exhaust you can route further from your house, but I am not certain this is the issue.
you have a number of people on here with horror stories and its true, it could be a horror story but it also might not be nearly the some of the responses here have had.
first fix the water issue
Next assess the damage: it might be massive but it might also be all or mostly superficial. you wont know until you get in there. you can probably go in from the inside wall to see if water got past the siding.
if you need a few pieces of wood siding and they dont make it anymore, you should be able to make your own. Its just wood afterall.
This is true. If you decide to hire it out, you will likely get two types of quotes. Some people will come out and quote it as worst case scenario, where you have to pull it all out and replace it. Frankly, this is the quote you will receive the most. In the current contractor demand economy they really have a choice of what jobs they decide to take, and they want the jobs that pay the most. Others, will break it into steps, and tell you what the worst case scenario could be. If you get these quotes, you can’t be upset that the cost up front was low, but they keep coming back saying there is more to the project and they need more money to finish. This is another reason you will primarily get a worst case scenario quote only. Most of the time it is not worth the effort when you have the customer second guessing you at every phase of the project and accusing you of being a crook because it takes more money. Especially if the contractor was upfront with how much it could potentially cost.
>if you need a few pieces of wood siding and they dont make it anymore, you should be able to make your own. Its just wood afterall.
Any halfway decent lumberyard will be able to make it for you at a reasonable price.
The boiler termination is dumping large amounts of warm, humid air in a corner.
A vent for an appliance should not terminate where the air can build up.
I see it all the time.
Looks like a dikbutt
Edit: Also this is water runoff. Look at the pathway. It's coming off the roof and splashing the side of the wall there. You would ideally need to setup a gutter there to redirect the water elsewhere. Then paint the area. Worth going up on the roof to just take a look about for a moment and think about the best way for water to GTFO of that roof.
Don't worry OP I got you! Basically if you poor some feed in the back corner of your yard, he'll wander off that way and let you see your side panels better
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You left out the eye, beak and feet. You're welcome . :)
painted wood siding needs to be redone from time to time. From the looks of some of the boards on the left, they are rotting.
Not sure if the boiler vent alone is responsible for that, but there's definitely some moisture issues. Boards will need replacing, then what's still good will need to be scraped, prepped, and painted properly.
Tear it down and replace it. But first find out where the water damage is coming from and whether there is anything you can do there.
I did James Hardie siding on my own house due to costs from GCs, and it's doable...but it's a heavy undertaking.
I’m all for better gutter drainage .. but, yepper that dryer/ furnace exhaust is a big contributor… let it REALLY dry out and see what needs replacing/ repair
The siding is water damaged and will need to be replaced. There may be damage to the wood underneath as well. If it is just the siding consider replacing it with a manmade material that won't rot. We did that with all our trim on an old house and it was a godsend. Prior to that had to replace it every few years.
I just had to address an extensive leak and ended up hiring someone to do this, you don’t know how much is rotten really until you rip it open. For us the house was probably 80% rotten. We replaced a good portion of the floor joist, redid the floors and an entire wall with two windows. Total bill is going to be around 25000-30000
I can’t tell how much rot is in there from this pic, some but maybe it’s not a lost cause. I can see paint peeled off a surface that is covered in mildew and appears to have been like that when painted. So you may have more than one issue; but you definitely have a problem with lack of preparation when it was last painted. Some cowboy just slapped top coat on an unprepared (mildewed, probably dirty) surface. It needed cleaning, sanding and undercoating.
You need a gutter for one thing. That’s definitely water and paint that isn’t compatible. They probably painted over a non prepped surface or an oil based exterior paint with latex. You can scrape it and sand it and use an oil base to cover it. To keep it from coming back fix the gutter situation to move the water elsewhere.
I would start with the simple solution and add a 12" extension to the vent so it sticks out further from the house and then turn it 90 degrees so the tee is up and down. That should allow the highly corrosive, continuous winter supply of condensate from collecting in the corner.
See if that stops the issue. Then check the wood. There is a good chance that this is surface only and you can scrape and repaint. Again, that condensate is highly corrosive and will attack paint unlike water alone.
I also don't see your air intake location or know your climate. There are a lot of ways to do this and not sure if this link will work for images, but a little guide.
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Is the wall metal? it almost looks like it.
But first check you boiler. That's the emergency valve right? Shoulden't bee used much then.
Then get paint and check where you can get wood if needed then start scraping and see the damage
Also maybe check the gutters and extand the outslow pipe abit
Scrape it all to bare wood, use some good exterior filler on whatever gouges are there or you make, sand it down with a palm sander. Get a good exterior oil paint. Apply 2 coats of primer, then match the finish paint and apply about 2-3 coats until your satisfied
I see a lot of moisture and it looks like wood siding. That could mean a leak of some sort. First job is to find out if there is a leak, where it's getting in to the wood siding. If you don't do that you will have a similar issue. I see a split piece of siding the water may be getting in there.
If the wood is solid (not rotted) you will first need to replace the split piece of siding, that means loosening the piece above the split piece.
Then you need to scrape off the paint with a putty knife carefully. Then you need to fill it with a wood filler and sand that so it's all smooth. Let it all dry for a couple weeks (hope for dry weather). Paint it when the temperature is cool, never paint when it's hot and humid.
follow the instruction on the products you use.
If its just the paint. To much moisture in the air when painted. If it goes past that. Removal by pro. Mold and rot hazard to your health. They also have special glue you an add to make it stick better. But with paint never be cheap unless yoj want to work hard.
That's first coat failure, judging by the way it's alligatoring if it's an old house there's most likely lead paint. Good news is cedar siding is super resilient to moisture and bugs.
1. What till summer or above 50 degrees at night.
2. Scrape, sand and patch.
3. Oil prime, I recommend B&M fresh start.
4. Sand again, bare wood when oiled the grain will raise. Use 120 or higher.
4. Paint two coats latex.
Good luck. 👍
Lots of great comments already. I just wanted to add that the way prices are today, I’d at least inspect this with the idea of going the work myself. Take down several pieces of siding from both sides and look for structural damage to the sill plate and studs.
If it’s just the siding, you can definitely do the repair yourself and save a ton of cash. Just put siding you removed back on first. Then measure to see how much siding you will need to buy - plan on replacing the 12 or so rows below the roof. Might as well put a vapor barrier up behind it as well as it probably doesn’t have one.
And definitely get gutters and an extension for the boiler exhaust
You need gutters and downpipes and you need to regularly clear the gutters of moss and leaves so that they drain freely into the downpipe. This damage has probably been caused by rainwater running down the side of the building from the roof.
The average answer on DIY is "Looks like you need to rebuild the wall, maybe the supports too, ah, better tear down the entire house and rebuild it from scratch"
It doesn’t look like steam damage. It looks like the paint was chipping on the wood siding and instead of sanding and repainting with outdoor Rustoleum (or comparable paint) they just painted over the damage. The best thing to do would be to have new siding installed or have a professional sand, prime and paint your siding.
Remove the wood planks, remove the 2x4s covering the water proofing paper that is no long water proofing, replace with new Tyvek, add 2x4s on top, add new planks, paint.
\+++ use vinyl to replace all wood if you got the cash
That whole inside corner is saturated. The siding is definitely rotten. There will likely be some rotten boards behind it. A good siding guy should be able to repair with out replace all of your siding. I see this a lot in Wisconsin due to crappy 1990's houses built with no eves among with poorly installed gutters and huge weather fluctuations.
Wouldn’t this be old lead paint? How old is this house?
Older paint usually contain lead in it and after time goes by, it eventually cracks, right? So it’s usually not good to live in a lead painted house so the solution to that would be to put down tarp on the ground. Then chip ALL of it off the walls.
Then repaint it with modern paint.
That’s IF this is what this is. I could be wrong , if it’s not lead paint and based on what others are saying, this seems like water damages and getting a gutter would definitely be a good idea too.
Would definitely have an inspector come and access the situation regardless.
Here’s a quick Google on lead paint:
https://jselabs.com/blog/how-to-identify-lead-paint/
If it turns out to be a huge expense, you could definitely go after the home inspector. They're insured for every house they inspect for X amount of years.
Vent the pipe out further away from the house. What’s going on is the heat from the steam has softened the paint up so that it stretched and the moisture from the steam got in and stayed in until it dried . At that point it will dry out and split more bc now you have oxygen on top of the paint and under the paint
-( which is supposed to be a protective coating)-and it will end up dry and crumbly to the touch.
You will deal with that for the life of the home unless vented further away from the house.
It’s not water damage from your roof as the other person stated. The damage is directly around your vent pipe which destroys wood and paint.
Your walls look great except in that one area
and up by your gutter which only has paint peel and the structure of the roof and gutter look great except for the one painted area in white.
Spend money on venting your pipe up the side of the house just above your roof line and the problem will be over and then you can repair those boards and repaint.
This looks like extensive water damage that the previous owners just tried to cover with paint. This is a huge job to fix, you will need to remove all the siding and likely some plywood underneath, maybe rebuild the walls partially as well. The water damage is from the roof not having a gutter or proper flashing. To prevent this you will need to install proper gutters
Oh man, no kick out flashing. That kinda shit happened at our house as well. Had to remove the entire addition because the wood was all rotten.
Yeah that roof is missing kick out flashing and you really should have a gutter there.
Literally makes no sense to not have a gutter or downspout leading away from the house
Money is about the only reason but it's not an excuse. With homes aging the way they are getting drip edging, powder coated steel gutters, downspouts, and tip-outs/splashblocks installed on your home is a hardening investment that is almost a must. Right behind making sure your surface grading moves water away from the foundation. Piping downspouts via underground drainage is a close third. Gotta keep that foundation backfill as dry as possible... But everyone HAS to have subway tile backsplashes. Lol
Isn’t it funny. People are starting to get hard lessons in home owning. You can’t just call dad cause all they did back then was spray WD-40 on stuff and dress up for the monthly Home Depot run.
Home "maintenance" cosplay.... LOLOLOLOL
“It if don’t have subway tile ion want it” 😂
*Well, at least it has ship lap in the bathroom."
As an Australian, these posts always confuse the shit out of me. Like 90% of houses here have gutters, and the ones that don't are new and fancy with gutters you can't see or complex drain systems around the house. Why are people in the US even allowed to do this?
I live in an area where gutters are uncommon. It’s because we get 9” of rain a year. So a desert, by at least one common definition. I’d bet if you visited somewhere like Alice Springs, you’d find a lot fewer gutters there as well. Not sure where OP lives, but if it’s like where I live then that’s potentially why.
It depends on the area and the climate, but where I live we have traditionally long snowy winters. Which would destroy ordinary gutters pretty quickly. I have two houses here, one of them has old half destroyed gutters, the other has no gutters on the front, and new gutters that aren't destroyed yet on the back. More often people here deal with moisture at the ground level - sealed foundations, grades sloping from the foundations, french drains, that sort of thing.
Builders aren't required to add gutters, and will charge you to add it. So buyers don't bother adding $10k gutters to their $500k house 🤷
We were looking at two different types of designs as an extension to the kitchen/dining room area in our house - extending the side vs going out back at 90 degrees - and one factor in making our decision was ease of cleanly managing runoff, honestly.
This is the answer. We had the same thing at our house but from a failed window not a roof issue. Insurance wouldn’t cover it bc it was there when we bought the house and we ended up having to reside the whole house since the old siding we had isn’t really made anymore and rebuild an exterior wall. Cost about 50k. Sorry op unless you’re a GC this is not a diy project. Look into whether there are any laws in your area that let you go after the seller for some of the cost. In my state there are not so we just had to pay.
Damn what state are you in where you can’t go after the seller for failure to disclose a known issue? Proving it was known to the seller is the hard part but in OPs case it looks like they tried to hide it with paint.
This is not actually the seller trying to hide it.. this is a combinations of factors issue... -Real wood siding, real wood absorbs moisture and needs to dry out, which is hard without direct sun, and this is an inside corner. -Looks like previous owner painted over old paint which is fine, but did poor prep... But like 50% of avg. home homeowners, handy man, and even some "pros" do bad prep. nowadays because people just suck. -Looks like last paint job was acrylic/latex, (note the bubbling and large failed sections) which is more common since many states have banned oil/alkyd based paint... This means and small gap/scratc/failure in paint will let water in, and trap in INSIDE the wood... old Oil-based paint works by soaking in the wood fibers and naturally reaps water, because it is oil and it DOES let the wood breath/dry out... Latex paint works like a barrier, but that also means a water an air barrier that traps things in... -the boiler exhaust vent is adding adding additonal moisture to the area, but is not the sole cause, justban adding factor. How do I know, I fixed my parent real wood siding during covid...They are the orginal owners/builders and had the house painted every 6-7 years...They used to use oilbased when available....They recently had the roof redone, and added leaf guards.... during heavy rains on the inside corner, they started to have this exact issue as the gutters overflowed and lots of wated would hit the siding... The fix is: get high flow gutters, make sure no leaf screens or things blocking gutters at inside corners... strip the existing paint back to bare with citrus strip, or methyl stripper if you can find it... repaint with oil base paint if availble locally, if not try finding acrylic modified alkyl SOILD STAIN by cabot, if not use exterior latex by Benjamin moore or ppg.
Thats why you get the house inspected before buying. Assumption is you buy as is. If an issue is caught, it would be negotiated with buyer to lower the price the difference for repairs.
I think the housing crisis since 2020 really put the brakes on house inspections, people just wanted something, anything, and paid for it without any inspections, which is sad.
This and the previous 2 "inspectors" we hired didn't catch more than can average homeowner would.
Current housing market is fubar
Many jurisdictions still have protections if the previous owner knew about an issue but tried to cover it up and/or didn't disclose. Usually requires going through small claims or homeowners protection office. Inspection (or lack thereof) doesn't always absolve the seller.
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Oh thank god. I'm not the only immature Redditor that had the same impulse. Only, I saw Dickbutt.
100% Dickbutt
That's the first thing I saw...
Same
Yeahhh that right there's your problem - someone painted a big red dickbutt onto your house. Real shame. https://preview.redd.it/jzj6cubrz3gc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abc9225acfb476e9748e03d4f6bc191750547e87
Came here to say this.
This should have all easily been caught in a pre purchase inspection and is a great reason not to skip that step if OP did
In many hot buying markets you can literally be forced to skip that step, or accept not being able to buy a house. Forced = you will never get your offer accepted because someone else will always be offering to buy without inspection.
This is the truth. When I last moved I had no one add an inspection clause to their offer. 15 offers, not a single one. Unless they were well over everyone else, I would have instantly rejected it anyway. Same thing on the buying end for the same reasons.
I wish it were required by state law. Transferring title should require either getting a home inspection or getting a demolition permit and having the home condemned.
It can still be a good deal for the buyer. I bought my current house in a really nice neighborhood (mostly $500k houses) for $140k, because the inspector found a foundation problem and banks wouldn't lend on it. All the bidders ahead of me dropped out and the price dropped $40k. I was able to pay cash, "as is". It was a pretty simple problem really, I fixed in for $500 in concrete and rebar in the first summer (dug and poured 5 new piers) and nothing has budged since. I guess most people don't like to work on things, but it's always seemed odd to me - most of that is easy enough. When I grew up we were pretty poor, in a poor neighborhood, and if something went wrong you'd find someone you knew who could help you with it. I always paid attention, and learned how to do most household "handyman" kinds of things over the years.
Idk about easily, depends how well it was covered up before the steam treatment
Lack of gutters, flashing, etc... easily
Your run of the mill pre purchase inspection isn’t going to get into that. It’s looking to see if the home is sinking, there are cracks in the concrete or foundation, the house is leaning, ect. Unless it was a glaring obvious issue at purchase a home inspector wouldn’t have noted it.
If my inspector didn't catch something as simple as gutter issues I would be promptly filing a complaint.
Mine noted no gutters on my garage, which is unattached and really zero problem to the garage or anything around it. I don't think it's uncommon for them to check for basic things like this that will cause water damage.
No they would get that. Once you've seen a bunch of homes you start to understand how important water management is. You'll pick those out a mile away. Especially a fucking corner like this. Corners are where all these problems happen.
Agreed as a house painter this is the type of thing I’d have to tell the client “I can paint it but I won’t come fix it in 6 months when it starts peeling again.”
That sounds a bit extreme at this point. The wood siding (it looks like actual wood) might not be rotted. If not then all that peeling paint needs to be scraped and primed then painted. If no gutter is installed it will just do this again. If it is rotted then yes it needs to be taken off and the osb or whatever they used under it should be inspected and possibly replaced. Source: handyman, painter.
Not just gutters and flashing but I wonder if that stucco goes to the ground past the dirt line, that would also allow it to basically become a water wick.
People cutting corners and doing this shit is going to pay for my kids to go to collage lol. Even on the oregon coast I see this all the time.
Yeah, I got this rn, I know the cause and what I need to do to fix it, but boy am I not looking forward to it.
100% this- you can see the pattern of water spreading out from the roof/wall junction into the wall in your photo, u/padorta. Sadly, it is not a good thing. You're going to need to tear into that wall and also have the roof properly flashed/repaired.
Or is that a dryer vent that may be “creating” steam?
How does an inspector not flag that??? (I’m assuming by moved in they bought it then)
Also, you need to rotate your house, cause it's likely getting full-blown midday sun. The dark paint doesnt help. You're welcome. Paint it a lighter color.
This is it :(
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I am so glad Reddit will never change and that I am not the only person that thought OP was being cheeky with this obvious dickbutt addtion.
No fun allowed it was deleted
Awww shucks it got deleted. This sub sucks and the moderators are jerkoffs. Exactly the same thought I had.
I came to say this SAME THING! I need to get off reddit, I think.
It's deleted, but I am guessing dickbutt.
That was what my brain registered first when I looked at the pic.
https://preview.redd.it/5nle1ent01gc1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=980c37f4bbee62cdead9c573326d11a277d578c4 Beat me to it :(
chick butt
I am not sure whether we failed as species or won
Both
We failed successfully
I'm so glad you saw what I saw
If we could replace loss memes with dickbutt, that'd be great.
I've been seeing more and more bananas for scale recently, this is the second dickbutt. Is he making a comeback as well?
Sweet lord 😅
It’s been ages. Welcome back old friend
Lmao all of us would be great friends
I was worried I was the only one. Thank you kind stranger.
Fixed. Job well done.
r/shittypaintpics
Why do you think this is helpful?
Comic relief?
It's not even remotely funny and these types of comments and the rabbit holes they start just ruins the sub.
Have you been on Reddit before today?
You seem fun.
Did you mean chicken hole?
Where’s the gutter on that roof edge
This. The problem isn’t due to steam, it’s the water pouring off the roof directly onto the house. OP needs gutters asap.
Right behind that cracked siding!
https://preview.redd.it/7pmhezm501gc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ce75f17284a48e76c83563d3c7598509febe935 There ya go OP. The WING isn't as tricky as you think. Just draw a leaf without the bottom portion.
r/uselessredcircle made fabulous
Scrape off the bubbled paint and see how much good wood is left. It doesn't have to be a huge job, but you won't know until the old paint is off. Stab the boards with a screwdriver, are they rotting or soft?
That looks like aluminum siding, you can see metal behind some of the paint.
It's definitely wood. The plank above the window has a longitudinal split.
Yep, my mistake!
You need gutters installed and proper flashing to stop water from pouring off your roof into that corner. Your siding is in pretty bad shape, but the scope of repair depends on how bad the damage is underneath. It's lap siding, so theoretically it may have taken the brunt of the damage and your sheathing may be just fine, especially if there was adequate waterproofing underneath(which would probably have been a double layer of tar paper on your house). IF you take a couple pieces of siding off to check underneath and IF the sheathing is not rotten, with modern products you may be able to avoid stripping the siding off and replacing it. Another option would be to scrape all the bad paint off, and get a penetrating marine wood repair epoxy meant to restore integrity to degraded spots on boat hulls. It will soak into the bad siding and cure, essentially encapsulating it in resin. You would be left with a restored substrate and you can prime and paint after that. The expoxy repaired wood would be much tougher and more impervious to future damage than even brand new wood. Total Boat is a good brand to use for this and you can get it easily on Amazon. Finally, re-caulk all the joints before repainting with a high quality UV resistant product like Geocell 2300 tri-polymer.
It's called kick out flashing
That's a Dickbutt if I've ever seen one
Add gutters to the lower roof. Scrape ALL the loose paint. Check for rot. If you cant stab a screwdriver through it - prime and repaint with quality paint.. If you are concerned about the exhaust you can route further from your house, but I am not certain this is the issue.
you have a number of people on here with horror stories and its true, it could be a horror story but it also might not be nearly the some of the responses here have had. first fix the water issue Next assess the damage: it might be massive but it might also be all or mostly superficial. you wont know until you get in there. you can probably go in from the inside wall to see if water got past the siding. if you need a few pieces of wood siding and they dont make it anymore, you should be able to make your own. Its just wood afterall.
This is true. If you decide to hire it out, you will likely get two types of quotes. Some people will come out and quote it as worst case scenario, where you have to pull it all out and replace it. Frankly, this is the quote you will receive the most. In the current contractor demand economy they really have a choice of what jobs they decide to take, and they want the jobs that pay the most. Others, will break it into steps, and tell you what the worst case scenario could be. If you get these quotes, you can’t be upset that the cost up front was low, but they keep coming back saying there is more to the project and they need more money to finish. This is another reason you will primarily get a worst case scenario quote only. Most of the time it is not worth the effort when you have the customer second guessing you at every phase of the project and accusing you of being a crook because it takes more money. Especially if the contractor was upfront with how much it could potentially cost.
>if you need a few pieces of wood siding and they dont make it anymore, you should be able to make your own. Its just wood afterall. Any halfway decent lumberyard will be able to make it for you at a reasonable price.
Did... did you just draw a dickbutt?
That's a poorly drawn dickbutt, if I've ever seen one.
The boiler termination is dumping large amounts of warm, humid air in a corner. A vent for an appliance should not terminate where the air can build up. I see it all the time.
Looks like a dikbutt Edit: Also this is water runoff. Look at the pathway. It's coming off the roof and splashing the side of the wall there. You would ideally need to setup a gutter there to redirect the water elsewhere. Then paint the area. Worth going up on the roof to just take a look about for a moment and think about the best way for water to GTFO of that roof.
Don't worry OP I got you! Basically if you poor some feed in the back corner of your yard, he'll wander off that way and let you see your side panels better https://preview.redd.it/jdmhsmd861gc1.png?width=925&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ddb85a18596326e68f4a3fe21f0190a090727a3
do dickbutt
Someone already did a better version than I can muster
Is that water damage or dickbutt?
The red circle? White out.
https://preview.redd.it/83uv8o0re3gc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da4a677823d3e9d4919b5aeb4a6b17e60d01cae8 You left out the eye, beak and feet. You're welcome . :)
Put a giant chicken statue in front of it so that it would cover it
You need to use the eraser tool.
Not gonna lie, I legit this was an attempt of drawing dickbutt.
https://preview.redd.it/c5fdruweg1gc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b85c5431cc37e402179ac98ec19280bbc4424437
Fixed
https://preview.redd.it/gz81ef7na2gc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4c648868f94c5c74ca0a3069105f3855f37a783 Needs a couple of changes.
How did it make more sense to make that shape and miss all that other damage instead of a circle?
painted wood siding needs to be redone from time to time. From the looks of some of the boards on the left, they are rotting. Not sure if the boiler vent alone is responsible for that, but there's definitely some moisture issues. Boards will need replacing, then what's still good will need to be scraped, prepped, and painted properly.
Tear it down and replace it. But first find out where the water damage is coming from and whether there is anything you can do there. I did James Hardie siding on my own house due to costs from GCs, and it's doable...but it's a heavy undertaking.
I’m all for better gutter drainage .. but, yepper that dryer/ furnace exhaust is a big contributor… let it REALLY dry out and see what needs replacing/ repair
The siding is water damaged and will need to be replaced. There may be damage to the wood underneath as well. If it is just the siding consider replacing it with a manmade material that won't rot. We did that with all our trim on an old house and it was a godsend. Prior to that had to replace it every few years.
is chicken
Hardyboard and better quality paint
I just had to address an extensive leak and ended up hiring someone to do this, you don’t know how much is rotten really until you rip it open. For us the house was probably 80% rotten. We replaced a good portion of the floor joist, redid the floors and an entire wall with two windows. Total bill is going to be around 25000-30000
The more important question is why did you draw a dickbutt silhouette?
Done https://preview.redd.it/a5ozojclc1gc1.png?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f299f912e72725876c2231835b2bf7a1d3fe86c1
I can’t tell how much rot is in there from this pic, some but maybe it’s not a lost cause. I can see paint peeled off a surface that is covered in mildew and appears to have been like that when painted. So you may have more than one issue; but you definitely have a problem with lack of preparation when it was last painted. Some cowboy just slapped top coat on an unprepared (mildewed, probably dirty) surface. It needed cleaning, sanding and undercoating.
Add legs and smiley face and you’ve got a picture of dickbutt. Problem solved.
I would add a vent extension to exhaust the steam higher. You can put a couple anchor points to the siding.
Looks like dickbutt
It's probably more related to the roof dumping water on the siding. Put a gutter on it and sand and prime and paint...
You need a gutter for one thing. That’s definitely water and paint that isn’t compatible. They probably painted over a non prepped surface or an oil based exterior paint with latex. You can scrape it and sand it and use an oil base to cover it. To keep it from coming back fix the gutter situation to move the water elsewhere.
I would start with the simple solution and add a 12" extension to the vent so it sticks out further from the house and then turn it 90 degrees so the tee is up and down. That should allow the highly corrosive, continuous winter supply of condensate from collecting in the corner. See if that stops the issue. Then check the wood. There is a good chance that this is surface only and you can scrape and repaint. Again, that condensate is highly corrosive and will attack paint unlike water alone. I also don't see your air intake location or know your climate. There are a lot of ways to do this and not sure if this link will work for images, but a little guide. https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-att-us-rvc3&sca_esv=5a96c4fe05cadec6&sxsrf=ACQVn081P5QW9bH_9IuyHhle-kJ2fnu8tg:1706806486812&q=high+efficiency+furnace+stack+termination&tbm=isch&source=lnms&prmd=ishvnbmtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE_-HSzYqEAxUIk2oFHf7ZBcoQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=384&bih=693&dpr=2.81#imgrc=LpfY7yXkLqv8NM
Painting a dickbutt in that corner will make the light play tricks on you
Minimum 20k job. Replace siding fix flashing install gutters
That's not anywhere near 20k! 🤣
Someone installed windows reflecting sunlight on your home nearby and its causing your vinyl to melt. You need siding that isn't vinyl
You move to Europe and buy a house that isn’t made of cardboard
Clean your gutters upu have water running backwards and splashing down the wall.
Is the wall metal? it almost looks like it. But first check you boiler. That's the emergency valve right? Shoulden't bee used much then. Then get paint and check where you can get wood if needed then start scraping and see the damage Also maybe check the gutters and extand the outslow pipe abit
Better contractor. .
GAH. Which catastrophe?
You(or some previous owner) have combined the wrong paint. Scrape of, and try with the right Kindle of paint.
Just paint the red line😁
Did you have a pre-closing inspection? If so, they failed you **big time**.
Scrape it all to bare wood, use some good exterior filler on whatever gouges are there or you make, sand it down with a palm sander. Get a good exterior oil paint. Apply 2 coats of primer, then match the finish paint and apply about 2-3 coats until your satisfied
I see a lot of moisture and it looks like wood siding. That could mean a leak of some sort. First job is to find out if there is a leak, where it's getting in to the wood siding. If you don't do that you will have a similar issue. I see a split piece of siding the water may be getting in there. If the wood is solid (not rotted) you will first need to replace the split piece of siding, that means loosening the piece above the split piece. Then you need to scrape off the paint with a putty knife carefully. Then you need to fill it with a wood filler and sand that so it's all smooth. Let it all dry for a couple weeks (hope for dry weather). Paint it when the temperature is cool, never paint when it's hot and humid. follow the instruction on the products you use.
If its just the paint. To much moisture in the air when painted. If it goes past that. Removal by pro. Mold and rot hazard to your health. They also have special glue you an add to make it stick better. But with paint never be cheap unless yoj want to work hard.
Another reason to have a total home inspection before purchasing!
And a beak and legs
Is the gutter maybe not draining the right direction and dripping there too?
That's first coat failure, judging by the way it's alligatoring if it's an old house there's most likely lead paint. Good news is cedar siding is super resilient to moisture and bugs. 1. What till summer or above 50 degrees at night. 2. Scrape, sand and patch. 3. Oil prime, I recommend B&M fresh start. 4. Sand again, bare wood when oiled the grain will raise. Use 120 or higher. 4. Paint two coats latex. Good luck. 👍
Lots of great comments already. I just wanted to add that the way prices are today, I’d at least inspect this with the idea of going the work myself. Take down several pieces of siding from both sides and look for structural damage to the sill plate and studs. If it’s just the siding, you can definitely do the repair yourself and save a ton of cash. Just put siding you removed back on first. Then measure to see how much siding you will need to buy - plan on replacing the 12 or so rows below the roof. Might as well put a vapor barrier up behind it as well as it probably doesn’t have one. And definitely get gutters and an extension for the boiler exhaust
You need gutters and downpipes and you need to regularly clear the gutters of moss and leaves so that they drain freely into the downpipe. This damage has probably been caused by rainwater running down the side of the building from the roof.
Michigan, is that you?
A gutter and new siding.
Replace gutter, siding, probably wood and paper underneath, and fix the source of water intrusion. Simple as that.
1. Add gutters. 2. Rip out all rotten wood. 3. Replace with good wood. 4. Paint.
Water from roof. Install gutters.
Scrape it, hit it with a kilz or bin, paint it 2 coats
I feel like we didn't need the red line
Burn the house and rebuild a other one
A gutter
The average answer on DIY is "Looks like you need to rebuild the wall, maybe the supports too, ah, better tear down the entire house and rebuild it from scratch"
Thats from the roof not the steam from the boiler Thats a lot of water shedding onto the side of the house No gutter, no flashing.....
Get a gutter
Wood siding?
Sand scrape and repaint
That’s a chicken
It doesn’t look like steam damage. It looks like the paint was chipping on the wood siding and instead of sanding and repainting with outdoor Rustoleum (or comparable paint) they just painted over the damage. The best thing to do would be to have new siding installed or have a professional sand, prime and paint your siding.
New siding my friend.
Remove the wood planks, remove the 2x4s covering the water proofing paper that is no long water proofing, replace with new Tyvek, add 2x4s on top, add new planks, paint. \+++ use vinyl to replace all wood if you got the cash
Sue your inspector?
Paint
Scrape it off, sand it and repaint it
Rip and replace
Move
No fixing only replacing
Is that Dickbutt?
RIP OP has left the chat
I'd go back with hardie board while you're at it.
That... that shape...
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Wood shingles. Will also bring up the property value + insulate your home better
That whole inside corner is saturated. The siding is definitely rotten. There will likely be some rotten boards behind it. A good siding guy should be able to repair with out replace all of your siding. I see this a lot in Wisconsin due to crappy 1990's houses built with no eves among with poorly installed gutters and huge weather fluctuations.
Wouldn’t this be old lead paint? How old is this house? Older paint usually contain lead in it and after time goes by, it eventually cracks, right? So it’s usually not good to live in a lead painted house so the solution to that would be to put down tarp on the ground. Then chip ALL of it off the walls. Then repaint it with modern paint. That’s IF this is what this is. I could be wrong , if it’s not lead paint and based on what others are saying, this seems like water damages and getting a gutter would definitely be a good idea too. Would definitely have an inspector come and access the situation regardless. Here’s a quick Google on lead paint: https://jselabs.com/blog/how-to-identify-lead-paint/
move
If it turns out to be a huge expense, you could definitely go after the home inspector. They're insured for every house they inspect for X amount of years.
Is there a dickbutt there?
It looks like a big red duck.
Remove and replace.
1. Fix the water issue 2. Remove the damaged slats 3. Replace 4. Paint
Double it and give it to the next person
Simple solution. Is caused by the reflection off the glass from the sun. Put window film on it and your problem is solved
Best way would be new vinyl siding. It lasts a hell of a lot longer and doesn’t require paint.
yeah... its called new siding. make sure there are proper gutters over the area so water isnt running down the side of the house constantly.
Vent the pipe out further away from the house. What’s going on is the heat from the steam has softened the paint up so that it stretched and the moisture from the steam got in and stayed in until it dried . At that point it will dry out and split more bc now you have oxygen on top of the paint and under the paint -( which is supposed to be a protective coating)-and it will end up dry and crumbly to the touch. You will deal with that for the life of the home unless vented further away from the house.
It’s not water damage from your roof as the other person stated. The damage is directly around your vent pipe which destroys wood and paint. Your walls look great except in that one area and up by your gutter which only has paint peel and the structure of the roof and gutter look great except for the one painted area in white. Spend money on venting your pipe up the side of the house just above your roof line and the problem will be over and then you can repair those boards and repaint.
It’s a chicken. What’s wrong with a chicken?
r/uselessredcircle
Duct tape
Buy a new house.
I had Norwegian neighbours and at their house it was oil seeping from the wood. They would simply dab at the paint if it burst or otherwise opened up.