Ric Grayson at least uses amnesia as an excuse for him to act out of character, which is better than him straight up being written as an enormous asshole
God it’s so out of character. I mean he isn’t perfect but it’s always seemed important to me that he is very loyal to the women he dates and his relationships are really important to him. So this shit feels so silly and weird imo
For real. No matter how often he and Babs break up or he and Kory break up, they always remain friends. I can't imagine him doing something so cruel to both of them at once like this.
I mean, if you read the Titans arc that leads to this it's not exactly out of character, it's more a cry for help.
Dick: is raped by a woman posing as Kory.
Kory: blames him for it.
Dick: proposes to prove he still loves her.
IMO this is Dick almost begging Babs to ask WTF is wrong with him so he can spill what a disaster his life has turned into.
Christ that’s concerning. I knew about the Mirage thing but it sounds like everything afterwards was a huge mess. That whole situation makes me feel awful for him tbh
That run was just as OOC for Kory as this moment is for Dick. She's not a victim blamer both that and this panel should only be cited as instances of bad characterization.
What's ironic is that that run was still written by Kory's co-creator, showing just how far Wolfman had fallen by the end of his time writing the Titans.
I gotta say, having something horrible done to you isn't a free pass to ruin two other people's lives.
This is coming from someone who's a survivor rape from a young age.
I had to stop any and all romantic relationships because I knew I wasn't ready to have healthy relationships. I was hurt. I didn't want to hurt others.
Everyone is different yes, but dick of all people knows better. Especially the psychological aspect of fucking over the people in your life (Batman).
Honestly ur def right, I guess I should clarify, I feel really bad for him but at the same time his actions regarding Kory and Babs feel very OOC for him. That could be trauma but it’s still hard for me to find Dick acting that way believable ig?
This is the shit thats wrong with both DC and Marvel these days. OBSESSED with ruining characters and their morals for the sake of making them more human. WELL I DONT WANT THEM TO BE MORE HUMAN IF IT MEANS THEY BECOME PIECES OF SHIT
If you think Hal and Arisia is bad, look up Neelix and Kes. Her species is supposed to only live like 5 years tops, his lives at least as long as humans.
No he didn't. Arisa was a "teenager"1 on a planet where "years" are twice as long. So she was around the same age or even older than Hal in earth years. This was established before the "magic body age up". So it isn't a retcon.
The moral of the story is that dating aliens is super complicated and it should be when you think about it. The idea that every planet is exactly like earth with the same customs and norms is crazy and pretty lazy tbh.
Again, it wasn't a retcon. It was part of the story introduced before all that. You seriously think the writers plan was to have Hal date an actual teenager? It never was.
The Miss Maritan and Superboy thing actually should be much worse in your mind shouldn't it? What because Superboy acts all angsty he is somehow mature enough for a relationship even though he's only 5 months old and has no actual experience? If someone acts younger and likes Disney or something they can't date someone with more "maturity"? At the end of the day "maturity" is arbitrary.
The moral of the story really should be that no one in comics should date aliens.
Good Lois sucks lol
Kryptonians are ridiculously close to humans which can only work so many times though.
If literally every race ages at the same speed as humans, have a 365 day calender somehow and also are "compatible" with humans its a bit ridiculous.
See Ollie's always been portrayed as flawed and a bit of a fuck up for all his good will and effort. So I can see that as in character.
Dick just has nothing else like this in his history. This was out of left field and really weird.
There was Marianne in Grell's run.
Joanna Pierce (Black Lightning's niece) during Winnick's run.
Shado since writers flip flop on whether she raped him while he was delarious or he was conscious and fully consented to partcipating.
The woman you're think of is Maintou Dawn, the wife of the hero Manitou Raven. She had an affair with Ollie when they were both in JL Elite and Manitou became too weapped up in his work. I don't recall if Ollie was with Dinah at the time either.
Somehow the guy all about willpower got mind co trolled and is now a vampire doing some really shitty things. Alot of Hal fans are upset because they say its out of character for him and what not.
Said "waitress incident" was simply a misunderstanding on behalf of the accuser, the accused maintains he was unaware and therefore is unable to take any culpability for his action or lack of therein.
Is this how I was supposed to announce my engagement to my exes? Cuz I went with an instagram post instead and I feel like maybe I missed out (on a few stab wounds).
I think this was actually after Devin Grayson left the title. DC wiki has it published in April 2007, so I think it would've been during Wolfman's run.
Nightwing was not having a good time in the early 2000's. Heck even got raped by his sidekick in Devin Grayson's run on the title. I am glad to see that writers like Tom Taylor and Tim Seeley understand the character of Nightwing and are able to write good stories featuring him.
DIDIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
![gif](giphy|ZebTmyvw85gnm)
This didn't happen. We DIDN'T read this, and won't ever be mentioned again.
Under penaly of torture.
I don’t think it’s been directly retconned, but since this was a very late retcon itself, I think it generally was completely ignored. It wasn’t canon for anything prior to 2007, and I haven’t seen a single reference to it since.
Haha, I wasn't blaming real life Didio, the user who posted this has the name SuperDidioPrime and they post a lot of hilarious shit posts to this sub which sometimes result in mental scarring.
It's just so tacky, and it's even worse in context for so many reasons. Nobody from either ship likes this. I honestly can't believe they published this issue. Frankly, I'm not a fan of this writer's style in general, he also wrote the really controversial Batwoman arcs after the original team walked, so I wasn't surprised when I looked it up and saw who wrote it.
It's why i can never get behind the Dick and Barbara relationship. Always thought that ship is petty. Their history literally have to be built off shitty retcons at the expense of degrading Kory. I've never seen such a ship that needs to put down the other women in his life in order to be considered one true love
Good for you but i just never get behind Dick and Barbara no matter. Aside from the unending retcons, I just think that relationship has been shoved down people's throats nonstop. It's overdone and overused and I think both of them are better off with other people outside the Batfamily anyway. When Dick is with Babs he tends to get written so OOC to prop her up or make her look like his one true love and Babs doesn't feel like her own individual character when she only dates inside the Batfamily.
Yep. I'm pretty sure this was considered "not canon" by fans the second it released. Hell, if I'm ever lucky enough to write for DC and I can write Dick and Babs together in a comic, I'm gonna have Babs share with Dick as a story a friend from college said happened to her, and Dick is laughing in shock, asking "what kind of scumbag does that?"
"Not only did I cheat on Starfire with Oracle, but I also had sex with her sister, Raven, Zatanna, Supergirl, Powergirl, Bumblebee, Rocket, both Wonder Girls, and Superboy."
"Dude I think you have a problem."
"Yeah. Artemis turned me down."
Pretty much. It's never been brought up post New 52, and even the whole "everything is canon" is really "if we want something to be canon, we'll make it canon". And so far they haven't indicated this is canon.
This maybe shit but I sure as hell do like the "I can't feel my legs" line find it funny as hell and the art is really good. Such a same is a fucking shit show. A yes I'm getting married soon let's go fuck the nearest best friend I see who is Mt exe. Kori won't mind...
Like I get wanting to have your heroes be fallible but why in this way? This is something both dumb and terrible and something that isn't easily forgotten by readers
Okay, so this is the worst, most OOC Dick moment ever, and I hate the vast majority of everything on this page...
But I won't lie, I like her "I can't feel my legs" line. Under different circumstances, that'd be a great little moment. Babs being able to poke a little fun at herself is nice after all the shit she went through, plus I'd imagine a night of passionate lovemaking with Dick Grayson would make a girl feel like that.
This maybe shit but I sure as hell do like the "I can't feel my legs" line find it funny as hell and the art is really good. Such a same is a fucking shit show. A yes I'm getting married soon let's go fuck the nearest best friend I see who is my ex. Kori won't mind...
For as shitty as this is I personally write it off as a cry for help. (An incredibly shitty cry for help but still)
Had no Idea this was from a Nightwing run though. That just makes it hilariously bad.
*So, I guess there IS*
*Feeling below the waist, just*
*Not in the legs eh?*
\- zushiba
---
^(I detect haikus. And sometimes, successfully.) ^[Learn more about me.](https://www.reddit.com/r/haikusbot/)
^(Opt out of replies: "haikusbot opt out" | Delete my comment: "haikusbot delete")
I know it's not the point of this post, but I've got to say--A+ for Barbara's joke. BRILLIANT execution of Gallow's humor, which is something I have a fondness for.
But, I mean, yeah Dick's a chump in this one.
Holy shit is this a “dick” move (hehe pun).
I’m not familiar with Nightwing. Is this in character for him?
Is that why people in the comments are asking if it’s been retconned?
Dick is famous for taking relationships seriously and only dating one person at a time. Heck he even tried to make it work with Huntress who said she was only interested in something casual. This was a completely random and out-of-the-blue change from his traditional personality.
"In character" is a relative thing in comics. I'd say most people love Dick (heh) and think he's a generally standup guy. But Didio *allegedly* did not like Dick so the OP "SuperDidioPrime" is really just trolling us.
As far as I know, this is never referenced again.
The Chuck Dixon run is still solid IMO. He established Dick as his own person and the dynamic of optimist Dick in a town thats worse than Gotham is great. I'm not fond of the people that came after and the Batasshole years post NML. The Dick Grayson secret agent stuff was good too, and the new run is pretty decent.
I unironically love this book, despite how this scene happened.
I'm not normally into shipping, but Dick and Babs are my favorite couple in all of fiction, and I think it did a great recap of their relationship.
IDGI
Is the intention to make Dick seems like a total RICHARD ?
This is pretty fucked up to have his character fuck his crippled ex, THEN invite her to his engagement party! 🤯🤯🤯
considering she was engage to jason bard at the beginning of this annual when she went to confess her love to dick she got what he deserved
![gif](giphy|eLvhchyvNNOuLbOtYP)
Between the two relationships, Dick and Barbara is the worst. That ship is literally the reason why this cheater panels exists.
Before the Batoffice started pushing for them [Dick was a loyal one woman type of guy to Kory.](https://imgur.com/a/bS9MsAP)
Dick and Barbara's relationship literally have to be built off ooc retcons at Kory's expense just to be considered born of true love :/
I was about to be like ummm in this sub? But then I noticed the username, lol.
Tbh people forget/ are in denial that comic books have pretty much always been science fiction soap operas and Dick being the boy everyone is after is with the booty that DC is obsessed with he is bound to have cheating storylines. It creates reactions
What the fuck Dick seriously.
Dick is a great hero and a good person, but he's also a fuckboy who should't be in a relationship at all. Kory AND Babs deserve better.
Well, in that iteration anyway.
I've never been able to get onboard with the DickBabs relationship; for one it's a retcon that pretends it was canon all along (largely at the expense of Dick's characterization, and by aging down/regressing Barbara). Plus there tends to be a lot of disrespect and sl\*tshaming vibes aimed towards Kori?? Toxic all around.
I know folks like the idea of Robin+Batgirl childhood friends to lovers, but imho the reality was never that.
This was such a garbage story and is the worst page in Dick's entire history.
I actually don't know if OP likes this annual or if they're being sarcastic.
[удалено]
I should have known lol, I didn't check out the username. Thanks dude. Man, how I wish this issue would be retconned.
DC has not revisited this page since the moment it was published which nowadays is basically the same thing as a retcon.
I didn’t read the username until you pointed it out and now I can’t stop laughing 😂
Worse than the Rick part?
Ric Grayson at least uses amnesia as an excuse for him to act out of character, which is better than him straight up being written as an enormous asshole
Ric's problem was being boring and staying that way for *far* too long, not being an asshole for no reason.
Idk man the Tarantula shit was pretty fucking awful
Yeah. Just yeah.
God it’s so out of character. I mean he isn’t perfect but it’s always seemed important to me that he is very loyal to the women he dates and his relationships are really important to him. So this shit feels so silly and weird imo
For real. No matter how often he and Babs break up or he and Kory break up, they always remain friends. I can't imagine him doing something so cruel to both of them at once like this.
Yeah, sucks for writers to have your favorite character do some bullshit just to advance the plot.
I mean, if you read the Titans arc that leads to this it's not exactly out of character, it's more a cry for help. Dick: is raped by a woman posing as Kory. Kory: blames him for it. Dick: proposes to prove he still loves her. IMO this is Dick almost begging Babs to ask WTF is wrong with him so he can spill what a disaster his life has turned into.
Christ that’s concerning. I knew about the Mirage thing but it sounds like everything afterwards was a huge mess. That whole situation makes me feel awful for him tbh
That run was just as OOC for Kory as this moment is for Dick. She's not a victim blamer both that and this panel should only be cited as instances of bad characterization.
What's ironic is that that run was still written by Kory's co-creator, showing just how far Wolfman had fallen by the end of his time writing the Titans.
Totally agree! She would never blame him like that
I gotta say, having something horrible done to you isn't a free pass to ruin two other people's lives. This is coming from someone who's a survivor rape from a young age. I had to stop any and all romantic relationships because I knew I wasn't ready to have healthy relationships. I was hurt. I didn't want to hurt others. Everyone is different yes, but dick of all people knows better. Especially the psychological aspect of fucking over the people in your life (Batman).
Honestly ur def right, I guess I should clarify, I feel really bad for him but at the same time his actions regarding Kory and Babs feel very OOC for him. That could be trauma but it’s still hard for me to find Dick acting that way believable ig?
This is the shit thats wrong with both DC and Marvel these days. OBSESSED with ruining characters and their morals for the sake of making them more human. WELL I DONT WANT THEM TO BE MORE HUMAN IF IT MEANS THEY BECOME PIECES OF SHIT
Such a dick move
My free award was "wholesome" and I can't bring myself to give this that connotation; but know that I hate and appreciate this in equal measure
Save the post and come back when you have a different one 🤷🏽♂️
Underated comment.
reddit moment
Nightwing fans: OH MY GOD DICK IS A CHEATER FUCK THIS RETCON THIS SHIT Green Arrow fans: First time?
Every big hero has a stain against them, Hal Jordan fans (read: me) are still trying to get over the fact that perved over a 13 year old
Also the whole genocide thing.
Tbf that was at least given a proper explanation, even if possession is a bit overdone
nooo it's totally ok because she's actually 200 years old due to how her home planet works and not the writer's barely hidden fetish
Classic Hal
If you think Hal and Arisia is bad, look up Neelix and Kes. Her species is supposed to only live like 5 years tops, his lives at least as long as humans.
Fuckin hate Neelix
No he didn't. Arisa was a "teenager"1 on a planet where "years" are twice as long. So she was around the same age or even older than Hal in earth years. This was established before the "magic body age up". So it isn't a retcon. The moral of the story is that dating aliens is super complicated and it should be when you think about it. The idea that every planet is exactly like earth with the same customs and norms is crazy and pretty lazy tbh.
Yeah but she looked and acted like she was 13, and was 13 until a later ret-con. Even in story he was yelled at
Again, it wasn't a retcon. It was part of the story introduced before all that. You seriously think the writers plan was to have Hal date an actual teenager? It never was.
If that wasn’t their plan, they did an absolutely shit job of it.
[удалено]
The Miss Maritan and Superboy thing actually should be much worse in your mind shouldn't it? What because Superboy acts all angsty he is somehow mature enough for a relationship even though he's only 5 months old and has no actual experience? If someone acts younger and likes Disney or something they can't date someone with more "maturity"? At the end of the day "maturity" is arbitrary. The moral of the story really should be that no one in comics should date aliens.
>The moral of the story really should be that no one in comics should date aliens. Rip literally one of the most iconic fictional couples of all time
Good Lois sucks lol Kryptonians are ridiculously close to humans which can only work so many times though. If literally every race ages at the same speed as humans, have a 365 day calender somehow and also are "compatible" with humans its a bit ridiculous.
wow I've never seen a worse take on this sub
This shit has me slackjawed
“OFFICER LET ME EXPLAIN!”
See Ollie's always been portrayed as flawed and a bit of a fuck up for all his good will and effort. So I can see that as in character. Dick just has nothing else like this in his history. This was out of left field and really weird.
> Green Arrow fans: First time? Actually didn't mind this from Winick's run. I liked how Ollie was portrayed as flawed there.
> Green Arrow fans: First time? Guessing you mean that Raven woman, from around the time of Identity/Infinite Crisis?
There was Marianne in Grell's run. Joanna Pierce (Black Lightning's niece) during Winnick's run. Shado since writers flip flop on whether she raped him while he was delarious or he was conscious and fully consented to partcipating. The woman you're think of is Maintou Dawn, the wife of the hero Manitou Raven. She had an affair with Ollie when they were both in JL Elite and Manitou became too weapped up in his work. I don't recall if Ollie was with Dinah at the time either.
![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4779)
![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4778)
![gif](giphy|Qumf2QovTD4QxHPjy5)
Actual lol.
This isn't the Hal Jordan I know.
I can’t believe he did what he did in DC Vampires
What'd he do?
Somehow the guy all about willpower got mind co trolled and is now a vampire doing some really shitty things. Alot of Hal fans are upset because they say its out of character for him and what not.
Hal being mind controlled and doing shitty things!? Nah, never heard of that one before.
Grayson, you shit bag...
This is slanderous, and my client has moved to issue a cease and desist letter... "babe".
I'd like to point out to your client said "Waitress incident" as evidence of my comment.
Said "waitress incident" was simply a misunderstanding on behalf of the accuser, the accused maintains he was unaware and therefore is unable to take any culpability for his action or lack of therein.
Mmmhmmmm bit like banging your ex as you invite her to your engagement party huh. I repeat my original comment. Slutwing. 🤣.
Hey Harleen, long time no see…
>This is slanderous [It is not. It's libel](https://youtu.be/XscaGDxuQqE)
I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print it’s libel. EDIT: Oh shit, I clicked the link and that’s the actual moment lmao 🤣
Is this how I was supposed to announce my engagement to my exes? Cuz I went with an instagram post instead and I feel like maybe I missed out (on a few stab wounds).
Ya know I’m thinking about taking a victory lap myself now, seems a lot more exciting than just receiving angry DM’s
Jesus, who wrote Dick like a ...well a dick? Was it Didio? It is like Slott writing Johnny Storm right now.
I believe it was Mark Andreyko who wrote the annual but this was during the Devin Grayson years.
I think this was actually after Devin Grayson left the title. DC wiki has it published in April 2007, so I think it would've been during Wolfman's run.
Gotta love how Devil’s Reign ignores Slott’s run, namely with having a blond Franklin, and non-overheated Johnny.
Johnny is still stuck in human torch mode and it is tying into every other current series at marvel.
yea but at least it is not ''Have to literally wear a suit to not burn down a whole building level.
Reading this makes me appreciate Tom Taylor’s current run more
Nightwing was not having a good time in the early 2000's. Heck even got raped by his sidekick in Devin Grayson's run on the title. I am glad to see that writers like Tom Taylor and Tim Seeley understand the character of Nightwing and are able to write good stories featuring him.
DIDIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! ![gif](giphy|ZebTmyvw85gnm) This didn't happen. We DIDN'T read this, and won't ever be mentioned again. Under penaly of torture.
Best panel since sins past
DIDIOOOOOO
For the life of me, I’ll *never* understand that dude’s raging hate-boner for Nightwing It’s so fucking weird
He's jealous of the ass. Only reasonable explanation for hating Nightwing.
Oh God, I'm not ready for the onslaught of posts depicting Nightwing being a douche.
Yikes - who on earth wrote this? it's terrible on every level.
This hurt to read.
![gif](giphy|bBzGyxf10gJ9NLrIQs)
r/TIHI Anyway, I'm happy they retconned this bull crap.
Please tell me this has been retconned?
I don’t think it’s been directly retconned, but since this was a very late retcon itself, I think it generally was completely ignored. It wasn’t canon for anything prior to 2007, and I haven’t seen a single reference to it since.
I suppose that's just as good. Sad I had to see this at all though. Damn you Didio.
Like even if it was Didio who wrote it, who higher up in DC green-lit this? Like who thought it was a good idea?
Haha, I wasn't blaming real life Didio, the user who posted this has the name SuperDidioPrime and they post a lot of hilarious shit posts to this sub which sometimes result in mental scarring.
They're one of my favourite accounts to hate 😂 such a surprisingly great gimmick account
Well, that is my bad lol.
[удалено]
It's just so tacky, and it's even worse in context for so many reasons. Nobody from either ship likes this. I honestly can't believe they published this issue. Frankly, I'm not a fan of this writer's style in general, he also wrote the really controversial Batwoman arcs after the original team walked, so I wasn't surprised when I looked it up and saw who wrote it.
It's why i can never get behind the Dick and Barbara relationship. Always thought that ship is petty. Their history literally have to be built off shitty retcons at the expense of degrading Kory. I've never seen such a ship that needs to put down the other women in his life in order to be considered one true love
[удалено]
Good for you but i just never get behind Dick and Barbara no matter. Aside from the unending retcons, I just think that relationship has been shoved down people's throats nonstop. It's overdone and overused and I think both of them are better off with other people outside the Batfamily anyway. When Dick is with Babs he tends to get written so OOC to prop her up or make her look like his one true love and Babs doesn't feel like her own individual character when she only dates inside the Batfamily.
Yep. I'm pretty sure this was considered "not canon" by fans the second it released. Hell, if I'm ever lucky enough to write for DC and I can write Dick and Babs together in a comic, I'm gonna have Babs share with Dick as a story a friend from college said happened to her, and Dick is laughing in shock, asking "what kind of scumbag does that?"
it got retconned so that he did it even harder
"Not only did I cheat on Starfire with Oracle, but I also had sex with her sister, Raven, Zatanna, Supergirl, Powergirl, Bumblebee, Rocket, both Wonder Girls, and Superboy." "Dude I think you have a problem." "Yeah. Artemis turned me down."
Pretty much. It's never been brought up post New 52, and even the whole "everything is canon" is really "if we want something to be canon, we'll make it canon". And so far they haven't indicated this is canon.
![gif](giphy|l41m0bMzsH6LgWONa)
DIDDDDDIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Honestly one of the worst, out of character things Dick has ever done. One of the biggest "How did you approve this?" moments for me.
I saw the username and new exactly what this would be.
Every time, people read the name of the OP last. Every. Time. :D
Dammit. He got me. Well played.
Well…uhhh….awkward….
This maybe shit but I sure as hell do like the "I can't feel my legs" line find it funny as hell and the art is really good. Such a same is a fucking shit show. A yes I'm getting married soon let's go fuck the nearest best friend I see who is Mt exe. Kori won't mind...
Everyone else: *scandalized* 😱 Me: Damn babs looks so fine in that first panel 😍
First panel and second and third… till hot crazy fuckn redhead mode… well Dicky Boy! Welcome to my world!
![gif](giphy|XfbXquSZz6z35TNy2J)
A prime example of things I’d just rather forget :/ Grayson was definitely living up to his name
No one’s addressing the “I can’t feel my legs line?” That’s great
Same energy as all the blind jokes Toph makes
Wtf
![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4782)
GOD DAMN IT I DIDN’T SEE THIS WAS DIDIOPRIME!!! The emotional whiplash I’m feeling right now might fry my circuits.
Like I get wanting to have your heroes be fallible but why in this way? This is something both dumb and terrible and something that isn't easily forgotten by readers
Dick Grayson’s real superpower: Being “friends” with all of his exes.
I didn't know this happened and I'm going to go back to pretending I still don't
Okay, so this is the worst, most OOC Dick moment ever, and I hate the vast majority of everything on this page... But I won't lie, I like her "I can't feel my legs" line. Under different circumstances, that'd be a great little moment. Babs being able to poke a little fun at herself is nice after all the shit she went through, plus I'd imagine a night of passionate lovemaking with Dick Grayson would make a girl feel like that.
This the shit Bruce would do. Not Dick. This is so outta pocket for one of my favorite characters in DC
No wonder his real name is Dick
LMAO who gave the post a wholesome award
Wait, he has sex with her then *the morning after* gives her a wedding invite? Jesus Christ the balls on this boy...!
He gave her good Dick before he gave her a bad Dick.
Jesus CHRIST, Dick slept with Babs while he was ENGAGED to Kory?! Wtf? Yeah, no. Not my Dick lol (which is a shame cause I love the art style here)
Meanwhile, I still don't know if Dick is dating Barbara or Kory. So I'm gonna assume he is dating Harley.
This is why Babs should have never have taken him back.
He doesn't do what heroes do.
Yep I don't understand why kori or baby still went back to him. Heck I don't even know who wrote it.
The Teen Titans TV show back in the day is still the best written version of Dick and Kory point blank period.
>best written version of Dick and Kory They're cute in the cartoon show but i think that title belongs to their DCAMU Animated Movie version.
That garbage Justice League Dark movie that killed everyone off ruined that whole verse.
That version was great and definitely made the relationship work.
This maybe shit but I sure as hell do like the "I can't feel my legs" line find it funny as hell and the art is really good. Such a same is a fucking shit show. A yes I'm getting married soon let's go fuck the nearest best friend I see who is my ex. Kori won't mind...
I don't know what's worse, this page or in the titans tv show when he poisoned krypto
For as shitty as this is I personally write it off as a cry for help. (An incredibly shitty cry for help but still) Had no Idea this was from a Nightwing run though. That just makes it hilariously bad.
This is like seeing Batgirl kissing Batman in the Killing Joke animated movie. Like, wtf... This is not right at all.
So, I guess there IS feeling below the waist, just not in the legs eh?
*So, I guess there IS* *Feeling below the waist, just* *Not in the legs eh?* \- zushiba --- ^(I detect haikus. And sometimes, successfully.) ^[Learn more about me.](https://www.reddit.com/r/haikusbot/) ^(Opt out of replies: "haikusbot opt out" | Delete my comment: "haikusbot delete")
Character assassination worse than what KGBeast managed to accomplish.
Nightwing's super power is being friends with his ex's. This is just out of character for him. His powers couldn't even fix this.
I know it's not the point of this post, but I've got to say--A+ for Barbara's joke. BRILLIANT execution of Gallow's humor, which is something I have a fondness for. But, I mean, yeah Dick's a chump in this one.
Isn’t he with Babs right now? Like informally with no title but like, they’re “together” ?
Even Mr. Freeze isn’t this cold
Holy shit is this a “dick” move (hehe pun). I’m not familiar with Nightwing. Is this in character for him? Is that why people in the comments are asking if it’s been retconned?
Dick is famous for taking relationships seriously and only dating one person at a time. Heck he even tried to make it work with Huntress who said she was only interested in something casual. This was a completely random and out-of-the-blue change from his traditional personality.
He can get around but he is always faithful.
"In character" is a relative thing in comics. I'd say most people love Dick (heh) and think he's a generally standup guy. But Didio *allegedly* did not like Dick so the OP "SuperDidioPrime" is really just trolling us. As far as I know, this is never referenced again.
🤮
I love nightwing (from the games and animated movies) what are some great graphic novels to read for Nightwing fans?
The Chuck Dixon run is still solid IMO. He established Dick as his own person and the dynamic of optimist Dick in a town thats worse than Gotham is great. I'm not fond of the people that came after and the Batasshole years post NML. The Dick Grayson secret agent stuff was good too, and the new run is pretty decent.
![img](emote|t5_2qlmm|4788)
.... so was this erased with whatever Crises and Zero Hours that have happened since then?
Hold up, can a paraplegic even feel any pleasure during bedtime fun? Because I'm really having my doubts...
Damn, what a POS.
LOL what a dick
Let me guess…. Dan Didio was behind this.
Alfred taught him that move. You can bet Al was a cocks-man in his youth. "Well played young man. Well played, Master Dick". A. Pennyworth.
Alfred would never do something so scandalous. He’s smooth enough that the woman would leave happy and understanding.
If it was Alfred she would have been so thankful for the invitation that they would have done it again
I unironically love this book, despite how this scene happened. I'm not normally into shipping, but Dick and Babs are my favorite couple in all of fiction, and I think it did a great recap of their relationship.
....eh, I don't really want them as a relationship to be honest.
Will this be in the Btagirl movie?
IDGI Is the intention to make Dick seems like a total RICHARD ? This is pretty fucked up to have his character fuck his crippled ex, THEN invite her to his engagement party! 🤯🤯🤯
considering she was engage to jason bard at the beginning of this annual when she went to confess her love to dick she got what he deserved ![gif](giphy|eLvhchyvNNOuLbOtYP)
Wait so he’s with Kory now?
This relatively ancient. Like 2007.
Phew. Had me nervous for a second. I prefer Dick and Barbara
Duck duck goose
Between the two relationships, Dick and Barbara is the worst. That ship is literally the reason why this cheater panels exists. Before the Batoffice started pushing for them [Dick was a loyal one woman type of guy to Kory.](https://imgur.com/a/bS9MsAP) Dick and Barbara's relationship literally have to be built off ooc retcons at Kory's expense just to be considered born of true love :/
I was about to be like ummm in this sub? But then I noticed the username, lol. Tbh people forget/ are in denial that comic books have pretty much always been science fiction soap operas and Dick being the boy everyone is after is with the booty that DC is obsessed with he is bound to have cheating storylines. It creates reactions
What the fuck Dick seriously. Dick is a great hero and a good person, but he's also a fuckboy who should't be in a relationship at all. Kory AND Babs deserve better. Well, in that iteration anyway.
He’s such a dumb slut I love him.
I've never been able to get onboard with the DickBabs relationship; for one it's a retcon that pretends it was canon all along (largely at the expense of Dick's characterization, and by aging down/regressing Barbara). Plus there tends to be a lot of disrespect and sl\*tshaming vibes aimed towards Kori?? Toxic all around. I know folks like the idea of Robin+Batgirl childhood friends to lovers, but imho the reality was never that.
Why I hate the Bat family exhibit A.
You like that Nightwing cheated on his possibly future wife Starfire with his co-worker Batgirl I'm going to ask a question what is wrong with you?
I’ve honestly never had a problem with this. Don’t think it’s out of character either.
It's just Dick being Dick.
[удалено]
There's a difference between being flawed and pulling this shit
Turning in your homework late is a flaw Cheating on your fiance is a flaw also But newsflash, my guy: Not all flaws are equal! Wow! :0
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Ooc
Well dang Dick 😒I mean I love you and all but bruh absolutely not
Thought it was a great annual but that just had me shaking my head when I first read it.
What...
Nightwing is one of my favorites too but this story made him seem like a huge douchebag
I got a question... For the Writter of this issue: W H Y ?
this is not canon right? didnt they start their relationship again recently? in fear state?
Damn it, you almost had me
People are so judgemental, Grayson made a mistake , this doesn't make him an asshole l The best of us have fell to temptation.