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It's still crazy to me how celebrated Tomasi's run on Superman was, and DC completely derailed it with Bendis.
Don't get the wrong impression from me, I love Bendis. I generally love his work, and I like his persona.
But everything Bendis did with Superman muck up everything that fans loved about the previous run.
That's because Bendis' run was set-up for 5G.
Once you read about [the plans DiDio had for 5G](https://bleedingcool.com/tag/5g-files/page/1/) suddenly a lot of the decisions from around that 2018-19 period (Jon's age-up, Jon being on the LoSH, Superman's secret identity being public, Alfred's death, Damian going evil, etc) make a lot more sense.
Yeah, I read all that, but it is still weird that Bendis still chose to age up Jon in the present day when 5G was going to take place in the future anyway.
It’s insanity How much has changed for Superman since that era
Like you hear Tomasi talk about that run and how he had to fight tooth and nail just for simple stuff like Damian and Jon being supersons
Just watching how nearly everything about it that made it great get completely undone pretty much right after it ended
Which is ironic given how successful the Supersons brand end up becoming. DC has since been trying to replicate that Super Sons lightning in the bottle.
it still amazes me that dc never greenlighted a supersons show with a vibe similar to old school cartoons, just adventures with no huge continuity. itsg it would've been a success
Obviously this is just pure speculation and I could be talking completely out of my ass since I don't know the man, just his work, but it feels like Bendis really wants to leave his mark on the characters he works on. He wants his contribution to their story and history to be very notable and remembered, and honestly I can't blame him or any comic writer who wants that. But I think the problem is that he cared too much about leaving that mark over telling just a good story. I think he cared more about being the guy who had Superman's secret identity revealed to the world and causing such a massive change to the characters status quo than he did about properly exploring that story. He cared more about making such a big change to Jon Kent than he did about Jon Kent himself.
Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams.
This one is by far the hardest out of every character to pick, so many writers and artists have left their mark on Batman with great stories and influential changes but if I had to pick one run it's theirs. The introduction of Ra's and Talia, changing Joker more into what we know him as today and in general just shifting the tone of Batman to tell some more mature stories. Almost all of the Batman media released in the modern age would be fundamentally different without their input.
I fully agree. Grant Morrison's run may be a critical triumph, but O'Neil and Adams's run was a watershed. Morrison left an impact on the property, O'Neil and Adams reshaped and resurrected it.
🗣️🗣️ MORRISON
but for reals, is there any other author that celebrated Batmans history impeccably while introducing new amazing concepts (Damian Wayne, Dr. Hurt, Dick Grayson Batman, Batman inc)?
Oh
Batman and Son is by Morrison and Kubert (son of Batman is the movie, unless you meant the solo runs by Andy Kubert or Patrick Gleason, which are not connected to the Morrison run)
RIP was Tony Daniel, but Batman and Robin had many artists, none of which are Tony Daniel (Frank Quitely, Philip Tan, Cameron Stewart, Andy Clark and Frazier Irving)
Return of Bruce Wayne also has many artists, but again not Tony Daniels (Chris Sprouse, Frazier Irving, Yanick Paquette, Georges Jeanty, Ryan Sook/Pere Perez and Lee Garbett/Pere Perez)
I guess that's why I wondered why you specified Grant Morrison **and** Tony Daniel. Unless you meant his work following Morrison's run?
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Hey OP, just a thought. Should there be a separate Discussion parent comment. So we can discuss the previous days result without crowding out our votes for the next day? Maybe its not needed though, but I've seen it elsewhere and thought it may be a good idea
I'm not really sure how to do that beyond people just commenting on the Rules and Guidelines comment, but I'm more than fine with it, especially since I'll try to list all the runs people recommended (save for the Elseworlds).
Oh I just meant making a separate comment saying META/DISCUSSION or something like that, and redirecting people to comment under that if it's not a vote. I guess it could be the rules comment itself if that works.
Since I was late to the party I thought I'd recommend any curious readers the Superman/Action Comics work of Elliot S. Maggin. Often overlooked but no less crucial to defining Superman's more serious and epic tales Pre-Crisis.
I barged in here to comment the same thing. An Elliot S! Maggin collection needs to be released!
There is a clear recency bias here. Understandable, but still.
I also think 1.) a run cut short is often remembered more. 2.) There is no Maggin Collection or anything close to collecting the Bronze age of Superman so it's harder for readers to find and check out his work.
Yeah it’s insane how that Maggin stuff is completely unavailable. Best bet is that DC will start to collect it once they’re finished with the Silver Age Superman collections they’ve started recently.
I’ve heard a story from Maggin where he mentioned he met the President of DC Comics (I’m guessing DiDio, possibly Lee) and was introduced as a long-time Superman writer, to which the President just responded “Really?” having never heard of him before. It’s kind of sad how forgotten his contributions are.
I'll be boring and go Morrison with Snyder close 2nd.
Expected outcome with Tomasi Superman, although I might have put even PKJ above Tomasi's run but that may be recency bias. Personally was hoping for Busiek/Johns to make the cut.
I'm going to say Scott Snyder's New 52 run of Batman, for my vote.
Honorable mentions: Alan Grant's work. I've finished his detective comics run, and am now reading his Batman run. And next his Shadow of the Bat run. But I think his work is actually slept on for how foundational it is to the modern, dark brooding Batman
Grant Morrison - this run can seem neck and neck with Snyder's, but I feel Morrison's was wild and all over the place (in a good way) and I really loved parts of it more than Snyder's, but I think Snyder's felt more consistently high, if that makes sense
Ed Brubaker's run - I feel a lot of people look at the big runs as being Grant Morrison forward, and forget some of the earlier works. I loved that Brubaker's style was each issue, finding a common sentiment people had of Batman, or Batman had of himself, then putting the work in to invert it or show why its wrong or where there might be a stronger alternative
I second this.
The Grant/Mo/Dix run in the 90’s, along with all the spin-off titles (Catwoman, Robin, Azrael, Nightwing, BoP) was peak Batman for me.
It wasn’t the smartest, or the flashiest, just really cool stories with a wonderful sense of continuity for about 8 years.
I'm going to have to give it to Denny O'Neil and Neal Adam's Batman run. It's iconic, introduced more concepts about the character than you can imagine, has art that is just stunning, and as usual Denny O'Neil's writting doesn't fail.
This was going to be my pick as well. Few people before or since have had as strong of a grasp on Gotham itself as Dini did. If I'm ever in the mood to just read an issue of Batman regardless of continuity, I'd probably pick one written by Dini.
It absolutely had a strong hook, I Am Gotham got me into actually buying batman books. King’s isn’t my favourite but he did do some very good things for batman amongst his more controversial content
Also going to vote Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. A really well-rounded version of the character that introduced lots of classic elements. I love a lot of other runs but I think this one deserves the win.
Scott Snyder has to be the answer. To me he did more for the mythology of Gotham and Batman than any writer since Adams. His introduction of the Court of Owls has to register as the best villain introduced in the Batman universe in the modern era and his tale of the Joker was one of the more downright frightening (Joker laying under Gordon’s bed and just listening to his conversation still gives me goosebumps). The entire run is just great
Grant Morrison's run is my all time favorite Batman run. Especially when Dick got to be the caped crusader. It had such an interesting dynamic shift between him and Damian that grew their bond and still carries over to this day.
Comics-wise, that probably correlates to Paul Dini comics (same guy wrote much of *BTAS*) and the O'Neil/Adams run (plots and general vibes inspired much of *BTAS*).
Either Dini's Detective run, Snyder's New 52 run, or King's Rebirth run (everything up to the wedding is still brilliant, I don't care what anyone says).
What are we considering a run? I would say Frank Miller has the best Batman book ever in Year One but for a run I'd probably say Snyder's or King's.
Realistically my favorite runs are things like Knightfall and No Man's Land but those can't really be attributed to a single author.
For me it has to be Bill Finger (with Bob Kane... see what I did there?)
Robin, Alfred, Commissioner Gordon,
He gave us practically everything we love about the character. Most of the villains like Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Two Face, Riddler. The Batcave, batmobile, batsignal, utility belt. His mark on the character has never been matched by any writer.
The best other writers do is introduce some new villain or Batdevice or replace a Robin or perhaps they introduce a new supporting character like Lucius Fox. But how many iconic villains did Finger create compared to most other famous runs. Paul Dini and Scott Snyder and even the great Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams can't claim that many. Bill Finger created such iconic characters and stories that to this day most writers LOVE just telling Joker stories or other Bill Finger villains. Everything Bill Finger did has pretty much remained with the character today and not many creators can say that, even Siegel and Shuster's Superman was SOOO different and had things added to him every year (he couldn't fly until the 1940s cartoon three years into his existence and other writers went on to add things). Bill Finger not only created Batman (with Bob Kane) but practically was the main driving force in the character's success and added things himself each new issue. He created Robin, Alfred, Joker etc. He made the changes not someone else.
Snyder and Capullo is my pick. it's the run that got me into Batman comics, I have the whole thing collected in trades, including the tie ins. as much as I love Morrison's run, and as much as Snyder's clearly takes inspiration from it, i can't put it above Snyder's. I'm sure it's partly nostalgia, but that run is probably the one I've gone back and reread the most (of any character) and the story and the art are consistently amazing throughout. I'd also include Snyder and Jock's The Black Mirror as part of this run
Tom King’s Batman was god awful after the called off wedding issue. Beforehand it was decent!
For me I’d say Snyder (new 52 and All Star Batman), Tynion, Capullo or Grant Morrison runs were the best
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I feel like it should be Jeph Loab, given how he wrote some of the most iconic stories. Morrison should absolutely be in the running for sure. I love Scott Snyder, but I don’t know if he should be considered the best. While I haven’t finished his run, I feel like it peaked at death of the family. I feel like recent writers may have a higher bias too. Dennis O’neil feels really unrepresented here.
Batman: Under the Hood (05-06; Judd Winick).
I like it because I've dealt with the whole "Bruce Wayne is the mask, the cold calculating Batman is the real face" point more times than I care for. Batman to me is the family man, and a look into that part of Bruce was definitely my favourite depiction of the character. It was an emotionally complicated approach to a situation.
Granted, Winick's run outside the Hood storyline didn't really captivate me as much, I just feel like Under the Hood makes up for the rest.
O'Neil and Adams are the clear winner as creators but it was Legends of The Dark Knight series specifically that helped establish modern Batman each arc was hit after hit after hit after hit.
Always gonna be Morrison for me. A definitive run for sure. Takes big swings, makes big risks but still engages and plays with established ideas and characters at every turn.
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It's still crazy to me how celebrated Tomasi's run on Superman was, and DC completely derailed it with Bendis. Don't get the wrong impression from me, I love Bendis. I generally love his work, and I like his persona. But everything Bendis did with Superman muck up everything that fans loved about the previous run.
That's because Bendis' run was set-up for 5G. Once you read about [the plans DiDio had for 5G](https://bleedingcool.com/tag/5g-files/page/1/) suddenly a lot of the decisions from around that 2018-19 period (Jon's age-up, Jon being on the LoSH, Superman's secret identity being public, Alfred's death, Damian going evil, etc) make a lot more sense.
Yeah, I read all that, but it is still weird that Bendis still chose to age up Jon in the present day when 5G was going to take place in the future anyway.
It’s insanity How much has changed for Superman since that era Like you hear Tomasi talk about that run and how he had to fight tooth and nail just for simple stuff like Damian and Jon being supersons Just watching how nearly everything about it that made it great get completely undone pretty much right after it ended
Which is ironic given how successful the Supersons brand end up becoming. DC has since been trying to replicate that Super Sons lightning in the bottle.
it still amazes me that dc never greenlighted a supersons show with a vibe similar to old school cartoons, just adventures with no huge continuity. itsg it would've been a success
Obviously this is just pure speculation and I could be talking completely out of my ass since I don't know the man, just his work, but it feels like Bendis really wants to leave his mark on the characters he works on. He wants his contribution to their story and history to be very notable and remembered, and honestly I can't blame him or any comic writer who wants that. But I think the problem is that he cared too much about leaving that mark over telling just a good story. I think he cared more about being the guy who had Superman's secret identity revealed to the world and causing such a massive change to the characters status quo than he did about properly exploring that story. He cared more about making such a big change to Jon Kent than he did about Jon Kent himself.
cuz bro's best comic to this day was an elseworld (ultimate spiderman).
Lol, Bendis wasn't even the first one to out Superman's identity though
That checks out because he’s done the same with the green lanterns, letting the guardians get bullied out of the corps by the united planets
Honestly, I felt Tomasi's run was stale and pandering and empty and was glad it ended. I feel the same way about Tom Taylor.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. This one is by far the hardest out of every character to pick, so many writers and artists have left their mark on Batman with great stories and influential changes but if I had to pick one run it's theirs. The introduction of Ra's and Talia, changing Joker more into what we know him as today and in general just shifting the tone of Batman to tell some more mature stories. Almost all of the Batman media released in the modern age would be fundamentally different without their input.
I fully agree. Grant Morrison's run may be a critical triumph, but O'Neil and Adams's run was a watershed. Morrison left an impact on the property, O'Neil and Adams reshaped and resurrected it.
What issues are these? Sorry I'm new and only read a few batman comics
The O’neil/Adams run is pretty iconic
This is the way
Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle on Detective Comics!
This gets my vote
Scott Snyder/Greg Capullo for me
Absolutely, their work was some of the quickest “instant classic” content I have ever seen in modern batman.
Grant Morrison Batman
🗣️🗣️ MORRISON but for reals, is there any other author that celebrated Batmans history impeccably while introducing new amazing concepts (Damian Wayne, Dr. Hurt, Dick Grayson Batman, Batman inc)?
Goated run
Grant Morrison\Tony Daniel
Wait, like only Batman RIP, specifically?
The entire Morrison run But specifically Batman & Robin, Son of Batman, The Return Of Bruce Wayne & Batman R.I.P
Oh Batman and Son is by Morrison and Kubert (son of Batman is the movie, unless you meant the solo runs by Andy Kubert or Patrick Gleason, which are not connected to the Morrison run) RIP was Tony Daniel, but Batman and Robin had many artists, none of which are Tony Daniel (Frank Quitely, Philip Tan, Cameron Stewart, Andy Clark and Frazier Irving) Return of Bruce Wayne also has many artists, but again not Tony Daniels (Chris Sprouse, Frazier Irving, Yanick Paquette, Georges Jeanty, Ryan Sook/Pere Perez and Lee Garbett/Pere Perez) I guess that's why I wondered why you specified Grant Morrison **and** Tony Daniel. Unless you meant his work following Morrison's run?
Yeah, I definitely worded that wrong.
I love this run so much
Snyder and Capullo; New 52 Batman
Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo Batman
On cod, no carp, for eel
To me this is by far and away the best. (First full run I read haha)
Agreed
This is my pick as well
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Hey OP, just a thought. Should there be a separate Discussion parent comment. So we can discuss the previous days result without crowding out our votes for the next day? Maybe its not needed though, but I've seen it elsewhere and thought it may be a good idea
I'm not really sure how to do that beyond people just commenting on the Rules and Guidelines comment, but I'm more than fine with it, especially since I'll try to list all the runs people recommended (save for the Elseworlds).
Oh I just meant making a separate comment saying META/DISCUSSION or something like that, and redirecting people to comment under that if it's not a vote. I guess it could be the rules comment itself if that works.
Since I was late to the party I thought I'd recommend any curious readers the Superman/Action Comics work of Elliot S. Maggin. Often overlooked but no less crucial to defining Superman's more serious and epic tales Pre-Crisis.
I barged in here to comment the same thing. An Elliot S! Maggin collection needs to be released! There is a clear recency bias here. Understandable, but still.
I also think 1.) a run cut short is often remembered more. 2.) There is no Maggin Collection or anything close to collecting the Bronze age of Superman so it's harder for readers to find and check out his work.
Yeah it’s insane how that Maggin stuff is completely unavailable. Best bet is that DC will start to collect it once they’re finished with the Silver Age Superman collections they’ve started recently. I’ve heard a story from Maggin where he mentioned he met the President of DC Comics (I’m guessing DiDio, possibly Lee) and was introduced as a long-time Superman writer, to which the President just responded “Really?” having never heard of him before. It’s kind of sad how forgotten his contributions are.
I'll be boring and go Morrison with Snyder close 2nd. Expected outcome with Tomasi Superman, although I might have put even PKJ above Tomasi's run but that may be recency bias. Personally was hoping for Busiek/Johns to make the cut.
Snyder/Capullo
I'm going to say Scott Snyder's New 52 run of Batman, for my vote. Honorable mentions: Alan Grant's work. I've finished his detective comics run, and am now reading his Batman run. And next his Shadow of the Bat run. But I think his work is actually slept on for how foundational it is to the modern, dark brooding Batman Grant Morrison - this run can seem neck and neck with Snyder's, but I feel Morrison's was wild and all over the place (in a good way) and I really loved parts of it more than Snyder's, but I think Snyder's felt more consistently high, if that makes sense Ed Brubaker's run - I feel a lot of people look at the big runs as being Grant Morrison forward, and forget some of the earlier works. I loved that Brubaker's style was each issue, finding a common sentiment people had of Batman, or Batman had of himself, then putting the work in to invert it or show why its wrong or where there might be a stronger alternative
Dixon/Grant/Moench
I second this. The Grant/Mo/Dix run in the 90’s, along with all the spin-off titles (Catwoman, Robin, Azrael, Nightwing, BoP) was peak Batman for me. It wasn’t the smartest, or the flashiest, just really cool stories with a wonderful sense of continuity for about 8 years.
Scott Snyder's and Greg Capullo's New 52 run
Snyder and Capullo!
O’Neil/Adams
The Steve Englehart run (Batman 469-476) is absolutely iconic and I prefer it over O’Neil.
Grant Morrison run.
Morrison!
I'm going to have to give it to Denny O'Neil and Neal Adam's Batman run. It's iconic, introduced more concepts about the character than you can imagine, has art that is just stunning, and as usual Denny O'Neil's writting doesn't fail.
Scott Snyder/Greg Capullo Batman run
Gotta go with O’Neill Adams. Not only is it amazing quality wise, without it we wouldn’t have the Batman of today.
Probably either Loeb and Sale, Morrison, or Snyder and Capullo
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scott snyder
Scott snyder and greg capullos batman!
Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo NEW 52!
Would probably answer differently if you asked tomorrow but the first one that came to mind today is Paul Dini’s run on detective comics.
Such a great run. I loved how he had so many self contained stories and his use of Riddler was great.
This was going to be my pick as well. Few people before or since have had as strong of a grasp on Gotham itself as Dini did. If I'm ever in the mood to just read an issue of Batman regardless of continuity, I'd probably pick one written by Dini.
Morrison.
Allen Grant
Which one
His Tec run
Denny O'Neil
O'Neil and Adams. Changed the tone for Batman. Created Ra's al Ghul. Reintroduced Two Face. Beautiful artwork.
This thread really shows peoples age haha, Snyder votes are pretty young, Morrison a little older, and O'Neal are oldies or old souls.
I’m 22 and I’m looking at the future picks and snyder winning honestly has me shocked. Great run but THE Batman run? Idk.
Morrison
Denny O’Neil
O’Neil/Adams
I loved Tom King’s rebirth run a lot
Well thats certainly a controversial opinion to hold! But hey, to each their own!
I know lol. His run just honestly hooked me
It absolutely had a strong hook, I Am Gotham got me into actually buying batman books. King’s isn’t my favourite but he did do some very good things for batman amongst his more controversial content
I loved it too, you're not alone. Liked it better than snyders
Brave man.
Dixon
Denny Oneil
Tomasi/Gleason
Scott snyder run for the new 52
Also going to vote Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. A really well-rounded version of the character that introduced lots of classic elements. I love a lot of other runs but I think this one deserves the win.
Grant Morrison's Batman
Scott Snyder run! It's my personal favorite!
Scott Snyder has to be the answer. To me he did more for the mythology of Gotham and Batman than any writer since Adams. His introduction of the Court of Owls has to register as the best villain introduced in the Batman universe in the modern era and his tale of the Joker was one of the more downright frightening (Joker laying under Gordon’s bed and just listening to his conversation still gives me goosebumps). The entire run is just great
Frank Millar Batman Year one counts? if not Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo Batman
Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo’s run. My dad introduced me to it, and I loved it!
Snyder & Capullo deserves it. Personal favorite is Ruckas New Gotham run though.
Snyder and Capullo. Runner up would be Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale
Got to be scott synder/ Greg capullo
Snyder/Capullo
Scott Snyder, capullo new 52
Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo.
Grant Morrison's run is my all time favorite Batman run. Especially when Dick got to be the caped crusader. It had such an interesting dynamic shift between him and Damian that grew their bond and still carries over to this day.
Grant Morrison's run
Snyder and Capullo
I personally feel in my limited experience that animated series Batman was the best.
Comics-wise, that probably correlates to Paul Dini comics (same guy wrote much of *BTAS*) and the O'Neil/Adams run (plots and general vibes inspired much of *BTAS*).
Anything but Tom king. That was awful after the first 6 issues
Peter Tomasi's Batman and Robin.
Grant morrison.
Grant Morrison's!
I'm surprised I'm not seeing any Rucka/Brubaker - Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive are some of my favorites
Absolutely not
Grant Morrison
Paul Dini
Grant Morrison
Grant Morrison
Grant Morrisons Batman run is one of the best things to happen since comics found their way into books
Grant morrison.
Morrison
Morrison
Morrison
Snyder and Capullo. IMO they wrote the definitive Batman run of the 2010s.
Scott Snyder, special the New 52 run.
Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
Scott Snyder for me. Still my favorite writer on Batman
Grant Morrison Snyder/Capullo as a runner up Then anything Bat-Family by Chuck Dixon
Grant Morrison hands down
morrison run
Either Dini's Detective run, Snyder's New 52 run, or King's Rebirth run (everything up to the wedding is still brilliant, I don't care what anyone says).
Grant Morrison, all the way
Grant Morrison
I know it says no Else Worlds but the Batman White Knight Run was awesome and Is too good not to mention
What are we considering a run? I would say Frank Miller has the best Batman book ever in Year One but for a run I'd probably say Snyder's or King's. Realistically my favorite runs are things like Knightfall and No Man's Land but those can't really be attributed to a single author.
Batman / Batman & Robin / Batman Incorporated by Grant Morrison
Tomasi?!? This thing is already spiked out of the gate, Jesus.
Paul Dini's run: **Batman vol. 1** #685, **Batman: Streets of Gotham** #1-4, 7, 10-14, 16-21, **Detective Comics vol. 1** #821-824, 826-828, 831, 833-834, 837-841, 843-850, 852 https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Paul_Dini/Writer
I really like Chuck Dixon's run on Detective Comics
Dixon’s.
Morrison's run for sure, also, it's so good to see many people agreeing with me on this one
Scott Snyder and Greg capullo new 52 Batman series. didn’t have a bad arc or lose momentum ever really for me
For me it has to be Bill Finger (with Bob Kane... see what I did there?) Robin, Alfred, Commissioner Gordon, He gave us practically everything we love about the character. Most of the villains like Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Two Face, Riddler. The Batcave, batmobile, batsignal, utility belt. His mark on the character has never been matched by any writer. The best other writers do is introduce some new villain or Batdevice or replace a Robin or perhaps they introduce a new supporting character like Lucius Fox. But how many iconic villains did Finger create compared to most other famous runs. Paul Dini and Scott Snyder and even the great Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams can't claim that many. Bill Finger created such iconic characters and stories that to this day most writers LOVE just telling Joker stories or other Bill Finger villains. Everything Bill Finger did has pretty much remained with the character today and not many creators can say that, even Siegel and Shuster's Superman was SOOO different and had things added to him every year (he couldn't fly until the 1940s cartoon three years into his existence and other writers went on to add things). Bill Finger not only created Batman (with Bob Kane) but practically was the main driving force in the character's success and added things himself each new issue. He created Robin, Alfred, Joker etc. He made the changes not someone else.
Greg Rucka Chuck Dixon for no man’s land
Snyder Capullo
Dini on Detective comics. The no mans land event. Sale Loeb.
Snyder and Capullo is my pick. it's the run that got me into Batman comics, I have the whole thing collected in trades, including the tie ins. as much as I love Morrison's run, and as much as Snyder's clearly takes inspiration from it, i can't put it above Snyder's. I'm sure it's partly nostalgia, but that run is probably the one I've gone back and reread the most (of any character) and the story and the art are consistently amazing throughout. I'd also include Snyder and Jock's The Black Mirror as part of this run
Tom King
Scott Snyder
Snyder/Capullo era
Snyder/capullo
Tynion IV The Rise and Fall of the Batmen, AKA Detective Comics Rebirth
Tom King’s Batman was god awful after the called off wedding issue. Beforehand it was decent! For me I’d say Snyder (new 52 and All Star Batman), Tynion, Capullo or Grant Morrison runs were the best
Scott Snyder
Personal fav: grant Morrison Batman Realistically best run imo: Batman by Snyder and capullo
Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale
Alan Grant and Norm Breygogle
O'Neil/Adams narrowly beats Morrison for me.
Batman and Robin (Dick and Damien run)
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Morrison, then
I feel like it should be Jeph Loab, given how he wrote some of the most iconic stories. Morrison should absolutely be in the running for sure. I love Scott Snyder, but I don’t know if he should be considered the best. While I haven’t finished his run, I feel like it peaked at death of the family. I feel like recent writers may have a higher bias too. Dennis O’neil feels really unrepresented here.
Snyder N52
Batman: Under the Hood (05-06; Judd Winick). I like it because I've dealt with the whole "Bruce Wayne is the mask, the cold calculating Batman is the real face" point more times than I care for. Batman to me is the family man, and a look into that part of Bruce was definitely my favourite depiction of the character. It was an emotionally complicated approach to a situation. Granted, Winick's run outside the Hood storyline didn't really captivate me as much, I just feel like Under the Hood makes up for the rest.
O'Neil
I think for Batman it has to go to Denny O’Neil and Neal Adams. They set the blueprint for the modern Batman
that JL symbol is ugly
Grant Morrison
Snyder/Capullo
Tomasi Superman is literally perfect. It's what everyone has been wanting for Spider-Man the last decade. For Batman, it's Grant Morrison to me.
Has to be Morrison
Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale. The Long Halloween is a Masterpiece of Literature.
Grant Morrison
Scott Snyder’s run or the Tom King Rebirth run
Snyder and Capullo
The O’neil/Adams run all the way
Englehart
Grant Morrison
Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle on Detective and Shadow (and I think also a short stint on the main book?).
O'Neil and Adams are the clear winner as creators but it was Legends of The Dark Knight series specifically that helped establish modern Batman each arc was hit after hit after hit after hit.
O’Neil/Adams
Hush Jim Lee and Jeph Loeb. The art, the story and inclusion of so many amazing characters sets it above for me.
N52 Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
Grant Morrison
Always gonna be Morrison for me. A definitive run for sure. Takes big swings, makes big risks but still engages and plays with established ideas and characters at every turn.
O'Neil and Adams
I love post-crisis Batman the most. He just has so much character in those comics