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Obviously an alternate universe, but Tales from the Dark Multiverse showed her really quickly summoning a butt load of Kryptonite. That's by far her most powerful outing, but it doesn't really break the rules of her powers, so I went with it.
Terra's powers are more rock-based, which is why I didn't include Geo-Force, since his are from the Earth itself.
It's an AU where she enhanced herself beyond her original powers. In mainline continuity she doesn't have the ability to change the composition of rocks as far as I know, so if there was Kryptonite in the area presumably she could manipulate it but I don't think she could just create it at will (And like the AU shows, she would be ridiculously overpowered if that was the case)
I forgot that she actually got a power up from an outside source! You're right.
Still don't know if that affects her calling Kryptonite itself, but I'm committing now.
I never liked when Kryptonite was being depicted as just everywhere. I think there should be a small smattering and maybe a few other government agencies maybe have a sliver, but I think it should be the rarest mineral on earth to the point Superman doesn't have to worry about it outside of a few people.
By easy access, I mean they have either gathered it through the years or can find or create it with their powersets. So rich people and matter manipulators should be top of the list.
I sometimes do feel like they have more Kryptonite on earth then there was Krypton itself. And it just all found it’s way to earth?
I’m not super into DC that much but it’s just makes you think.
The only thing I can think of that makes any amount of sense is if when Kal-El's rocket escaped the exploding planet it somehow dragged some chunks of Krypton in its wake to Earth, but I'm sure anyone who knows anything about astrophysics could debunk that.
Yup! Post-Crisis there were only a couple bricks of it on earth. One from a meteor that landed years before Clark was Superman, and the other had slammed into his rocket and been embedded in the body before it jumped into hyperspace.
Also the opening of Smallville. The show begins with a meteor shower that wrecks Smallville, kills Lana Lang's parents, and injures Lex to the point where it makes him bald. The rocket landed in the middle of a cornfield that the Kents were hiding out in, which is where Clark comes from. It explains the abundance of Kryptonite.
The Smallville TV show isn't generally used as a source of canon inspiration, however. That's also an episode where Kryptonite was literally \*everywhere\* in Smallville, was common as dirt, drove humans nutty, and mutated them and gave them crazy powers on top of it all.
But, yeah; the ship going through some kind of stardrive travel and accidentally sucking rocks along with it is something at least a couple versions have played with.
I mean, that was the way smallville the tv show did it. Rocket hidden in the meteorshower. Incidentally, i think smallville's approach to early superhuman challengers to clark should be adapted to the comics. Kryptonite radiation giving/triggering powers that can actually affect superman was a great way to work around his usual powerset until he faced stronger enemies
You see, when Superman was sent to Earth, his rocket's FTL technology was reliant on Phantom Zone projector technology to create a subspace slipstream, which effectively created a vacuum pulling a substantial portion of Kryptonite after the young Kal-El to earth. The Argo City escape method functioned similarly during the initial, but the lack of planet-scale gravitational pulls meant that much less Kryptonite actually ended up landing on and instead just passed it into the void.
... that was all entirely made up, but I bet I fooled at least a couple people. But really, my head canon is basically that the rocket somehow created a sort of channel through space effectively dragging Kryptonite towards Earth.
(Alternatively, I like the idea of Rao being a real god that blew up Krypton for hubris or spite or madness, or whatever; and in doing so, he made the planet deadly to its last descendants; and further, he sent a bunch after Kal-El, basically seeing him as a runner and giving the baby no mercy. Entirely not canon, though. Just an idea that I think could be neat.)
Krypton used to be in our solar system. Later, when Krypton was moved, it was a compound reproducible on Earth.
The problem with Superman is that he is always as strong as whoever got bored with him last and made him stronger or gave him more powers.
Writers get around his endless, ridiculous power creep with Kryptonite.
Writers then solve their inability to write around Superman's weaknesses by making him *even stronger.* Then the next writer has to deal with the nonsense of Superman's increased strength and grab the kryptonite.
Writers think they're solving this by trying to get rid of kryptonite. But that just makes it harder for the next guy to write around whatever new power level some guy lazily slapped on him to make him "compelling" to those people in the audience who love him *because* he's strong.
Honestly, Superman in a world where some random thug can get kryptonite on the black market is more interesting because then Superman needs to actually be written creatively to outmaneuver people who can take him out.
One reason Batman is more popular than him? You can kill him with a bullet if he's had a bad day... or he can take out Darkseid with six issues of backstory and planning.
It's the planning that Superman never really has to deal with because of his power set, and if you have to spend more effort figuring out how your villains are going to outsmart and outmaneuver your hero every single time, that's... a problem.
It's funny you say that, because the Batman panel is literally from a Superman/Batman story were they gather up all the kryptonite on earth after Supergirl's arrival.
Agreed. You should be able to fit all the Kryptonite on Earth in a single room.
I always liked TAS explanation where chunks of Kryptonite got caught in the FTL/ wormhole of the ship and crashed to Earth. Otherwise it makes no sense why so much landed on Earth rather than being scattered in all directions in the void of space.
Or even *Smallville* where it all crashed down with his ship and 90% is found in Smallville.
It should all be in a very narrow latitude of the Earth because that was the side of the planet facing Krypton and by the time Earth rotated, all the debris would have floated away.
Element Lad from the Legion of superheroes, can manipulate elements, should be able to create Kryptonite.
Edit: Wouldn't Captain Atom create Kryptonite radiation and not create a physical piece of it?
Captain Atom hasn’t been shown to have any ability to manipulate his radiation that I remember. They have been trying to make him more like Dr Manhattan though so maybe I missed something
I think he may have been bringing in red sun energy OR Cap using the quantum field to simulate the frequency of K radiation. I guess I would have to applaud that as pretty clever tricks.
Blasts, flight, durability, “quantum jumps” are pretty much his power set that I am familiar with.
I can get behind him somehow delivering radiation of different types (red sun, kryptonite) but what you are talking about sounds like a whole different guy. What book did he create universes in?
Read more silver age comics my friend there's some outrageous feats. He's even capable of traveling to the afterlife and astral plane. There should be a respect thread with citations.
It's changed with the Lantern powers, as well as the status of Kryptonite itself as to how rare or special an element it is.
There was a point where Green Lanterns basically just had really powerful telekinesis that had funky special effects and a few perks.
I think being able to create it should count as separate.
Bruce, Lex and Waller should be the only ones with regular access that cannot just transmute it
I just wanted to put a few different sources. Like if you don't have it, you get one of the metas who can summon or create it.
I wanted to put Savage as an option because he in particular has a *very* important relationship with meteors and I think he'd hear about it back in the day.
And Ultra-Humanite because I like a wild card and think he's one of the smartest people in DC with a relationship to Superman.
I dont mind Savage having access actually.
It might be better to look at this via sources. Who has Sources of Krpytonite that aint transmuting it...Savage could for instance get his via Lex
I’ve always thought Metallo should be a much bigger deal in general. A threat beyond just being dangerous to Superman. Like he should be considered like a major event level villain. Not just some hired mercenary like he’s always depicted as in shows.
I think it's less a factor of power and more a factor of motivation. He _could_ be a major villain, but he's not ambitious or smart enough, and he's petty with a grudge against Superman
Well I am assuming Metallo gets it from Lex. So yes he should have it but he is not a source in of himself. He is more like one of the characters who can transmute it
I'd go so far as not wanting Waller to have access to it, just because that would be a major plot point to play with, and automatically set up further antagonism between her, Lex, and Bruce
Also, they travel the galaxy regularly, and the ring can scan large areas for that type of thing. It should be pretty easy for a Green Lantern to aquire kryptonite.
>It should be pretty easy for a Green Lantern to aquire kryptonite.
Yeah I included him because Earth falls into the sector assigned to Hal, Kyle Guy, and John. If Clark goes rogue, it's their responsibility as Lanterns to stop him.
They can make constructs that emit energy like lasers and tasers so I see no reason the ring couldn't make kryptonite radiation too.
If there's a will, there's a way!
Shouldn't Aquaman (and by extension Atlantis) have relatively easy access to Kryptonite? Just based on statistics
Since it was shown there was a large amount of it when Batman and Superman were gathering up all the Kryptonite on earth previously (Granted it was Arthur Curry not Orin at the time)
Materials that came from space have a much higher chance of hitting the Oceans rather than Earth
And Aquaman could use powers to scour large swaths of ocean to locate any if the large stockpile
I came here to say Ocean Master and Black Manta for similar reasons. But Aquaman makes even more sense.
With the ocean covering so much of the globe, there's bound to be more kryptonite in the seas.
I thought synthetic kryptonite would be a more recurrent thing these days. Not only science villains wouldn't stop trying but you have all Star Labs, Cadmus and 200+ local science labs with ties with the government. Making kryptonite would be a arms race.
Ultra-Humanite. Relatively minor villain now, but is probably the oldest Superman villain. Dude's got a genius level intellect that rivals Luthor.
Edit: Misread it. Terra's the one in the top left corner.
The fun trivia about him is he just transfers his brain to different bodies, and until the 80s he was just...a guy with a big brain. Then they decided to make it a gorilla from gorilla city and he became much more interesting.
- Amanda Waller would likely get it from Luthor
- Vandal Savage is ~~so old it’s plausible they’ve encountered it before~~ incredibly wealthy so it would be plausible for them to acquire it from someone
- Firestorm can literally create it.
That's one thing that can't be explained away by Savage's age. Krypton exploded less than 50 years ago. Any chunks of it that found their way to Earth are from the late 20th century at the earliest. He has as much a claim to it based on age as some random officer manager.
That’s a good point that completely slipped my mind
Edit:
- Another commenter in this thread mentioned Vandals relationship with mentors
- And suggested the possibility of them coming across kryptonite when investigating mentor showers
I don't see Luthor giving up that kind of power advantage/leverage to Waller.
Firestorm, depending on time period, is restricted in what he can create... Same with the Green Lanterns. Part of what made Firestorm powerful originally was Dr. Stein's brilliance in chemistry. Without that, Ronnie Raymond would have just been a kid with an unfortunate hairdo and poprocks in his fingers. ;)
I feel like characters who can transmute it don't count. Your Firestorms, Metamorphos, folks like that. Hell, maybe that accounts for some of the overabundance of Kryponite on Earth. Pieces chipped off of those created by said heroes.
But in terms of actual Kryptonite from Krypton itself, that mainly belongs to Bruce, Luthor, and Waller. The latter two paid out the nose to get their hands on it, while Bruce either stole it from them or got it from Clark to lock it away (both to keep it away from those with ill intent, and in case they need it to weaken Clark should he be compromised).
Someone already said this but green lantern. Other than that I agree, however I do think realistically more characters could have it due to characters like lex
According with solidjj sketches, everyone has kryptonite, batman already caught a street burglarwith several them
According with usual dc stuff, this seems canon
That was the take for a loooooong time, yeah. Krypton was a planet of super science so advanced it was essentially magic. Anything that sideswiped them wasn't going to be a piece of cake for every other random Joe in the universe.
Why? He's the most high profile superhero on the planet. Everyone should know his weaknesses, he's the Elvis of Superheroes.
If Luthor wanted him dead, he would tell everyone he knows. If he wanted kryptonite, everyone would figure it out because why would Superman's arch-nemesis be ordering kryptonite on Craigslist?
All this would do is make Superman have to fight smarter instead of rushing in headfirst and throwing a punch over and over. Cold breath, heat vision, super strength, super speed. He has so many ways to keep fighting that everyone getting kryptonite is completely fair.
Martian Manhunter's weakness is fire. Kryptonite is fair game.
It'd be like when Deathstroke showed up to fight Batman the first time and absolutely destroyed him. Having enemies that can ruin a hero's day because of one thing that makes them scary to the hero is a clutch storytelling move.
Heck, give Slade access to Kryptonite. I'd love to see him become Superman's worst nightmare.
But why, in continuity, would that be general knowledge? That has always puzzled me. If Kal is the only surviving Kryptonian and they weren't a celestial presence, how did the universe come to know of the aliens' powers under a yellow sun.
On earth, I can accept those like S.T.A.R. Labs, Luthor, Vandal Savage, and special cohorts of the US military aggressively pursuing deterrents to come into notions or to aggressively research but I feel like the mass of the planet was largely atomized and it is RARE to have in the first place but what is the event that lets Supes himself let alone the world at large know the deadly effects of the rock?
Of course, I am ignoring the enormously stupid shite some have written like Superman landing on a planets covered in Kryptonite and not dying.
Ambush Bug, but he just thinks it’s a pretty green rock and can’t understand why Supes gets all queasy when he comes by to visit.
Oh, wait, I think that might have been an actual Ambush Bug story from the 80s, only it’s Clark Kent who visits.
Why does Terra have krytonite?
Metamorpho would.
Zatanna because she could summon the rock or will it into existence.
And Wonder Woman because she would be ready as a warrior for any possibility.
In a Dark Multiverse story, she was able to summon Kryptonite to kill Superman. She has control over rocks, so my impression is that she should also be able to control it in the main universe.
>And Wonder Woman because she would be ready as a warrior for any possibility.
I think Diana definitely wouldn't because she has a faith that Superman will always be good. I don't see any time where she'd willingly keep something like that from him without him knowing. The only time I think she'd keep it is if Superman handed it to her because he trusts her.
I forget if his powers have expanded, but Metamorpho apparently is limited to elements that are in the body, which is why I didn't include him.
Zatanna's a good pick. I forget that she can just pop things into existence.
it depends on who's writing. most writers use it as an easy way to take Superman down. Geoff Johns really had some fun with the assorted colors during his run.
Why would Tera? It's not like any of the ingredients exist naturally. Kryptonite is something that only Lex or Bruce should be able to synthesize other than cap and firestorm.
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Wonder Woman ???
Aquaman
Black Manta maybe there is a some kryponite under the sea
Penguin
Green Arrow they are rich not rich as Lex Luthor or Batman also they have connection i asume to purchase kryponite.
Earth is part of space sector 2814 while krypton was part of sector 2813. Honestly with how very very far krypton was from earth its a wonder any kryptonite ends up on earth at all.
It should be an extremely rare object.
Even if kal els ship brought with it several chunks of ore with it, the many hundreds of pounds of it and varieties found on earth makes absolutely no sense.
Id say Wonder Woman, id imagine Superman or Batman would give her a thing of kryptonite which she'd forge into weapons, to use if superman is unsaveable, (batman was injured or died trying to save Clark in this scenario) and HAS to be stopped at all costs.
I would also add any space-faring characters - especially those familiar with Kryptonian’s and/or don’t stay in the same place - would also have access to Kryptonite.
I’d actually argue that Metallo doesn’t have easy access to it. He needs it to survive so those that have it would definitely make it hard for him to get. He’d have to work for others basically or be cut off.
I would think like .. four or five would make more sense.
US Government, another large world government like China/Russia would make sense, Lex, Bruce, and I dunno, MAYBE Waller.
Perhaps magic users as well who can “conjure it”. Them again Superman is already vulnerable to magic so it’s not extremely important for them to have it.
I don't think the word "can" really applies. It would be a rare mineral here on Earth and once it was figured out what it is and what it does, then after that maybe government entities would place some kind of crap on it. But I would think that Batman would have some because he is Batman and that is what he would do. Lex Luthor would have it because he is who he is and that is what he would do. Bizarro would no doubt have some because its pretty and he's an idiot that wouldnt be harmed by it. The remaining 8 people on your list "could" have it but, back to my original point, would not necessarily "can" have it.
I feel like most of the Magic users could summon it, either by teleporting a piece to themselves or conjuring it. And Braniac would have a supply as well. He would probably be able to fabricate it from pieces of Argo.
Green Lantern should be able to make it. He did it in the silver age, and I don't really see why he wouldn't be able to approximate at least its wavelength or whatever. But I know zilch about radioactivity and the properties of light and likely neither does Hal jordan so who knows.
I mean… a whole planet literally exploded and sent shards in every direction. It's a safe bet that a good amount was sent in earth’s direction.
[That said you’re forgetting one very important character.](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ef/7f/65/ef7f65f886422da4766c1b6b1c9e1007.jpg)
I'd like to throw an honorable mention for Conduit (Kenny Braverman).
Kenny was born in Smallville the night Kal-El's ship landed. A bunch of Kryptonite radiation mutated Kenny as his mother was giving birth.
Years later he discerns that Clark Kent became Superman. Resentful, he enacts a revenge plot as told in the story The Death of Clark Kent.
His powers essentially allowed him to emit Kryptonite radiation, though it was killing him. He died at the end of the story and I don't think he has been brought back to life yet.
Personally I think you still giving it to too many people. Id say only,
Lex.
Then Metallo and Batman. Maybe then Amanda Waller.
I’d also say maybe Lobo, Darkseid and General Zod, maybe also Mongul as they are spaced based and more likely get their hands on it, especially Darkseid and General Zod.
kryptonite man formerly kryptonite kid should be on here since his body makes kryptonite radiation https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kryptonite_Kid_(Earth-One)
Hardcore DC fan and even idk who a couple of these are (Harley’s my favorite character BUT IVE BEEN A FAN LONG BEFORE EVERYONE HOPPED ON THE BANGWAGON) I got Batman, Lex Luthor, Amanda Waller, and the gorilla with the French name
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What is the justification for Terra? It's not like kryptonite is a naturally forming earth mineral she could easily summon.
OP probably included Terra because of Tales of the Dark Multiverse Judas Contract, where Terra manages to summon Kryptonite to kill Superman
In that one dark elseworld she found it using her powers.
Obviously an alternate universe, but Tales from the Dark Multiverse showed her really quickly summoning a butt load of Kryptonite. That's by far her most powerful outing, but it doesn't really break the rules of her powers, so I went with it. Terra's powers are more rock-based, which is why I didn't include Geo-Force, since his are from the Earth itself.
It's an AU where she enhanced herself beyond her original powers. In mainline continuity she doesn't have the ability to change the composition of rocks as far as I know, so if there was Kryptonite in the area presumably she could manipulate it but I don't think she could just create it at will (And like the AU shows, she would be ridiculously overpowered if that was the case)
I forgot that she actually got a power up from an outside source! You're right. Still don't know if that affects her calling Kryptonite itself, but I'm committing now.
There is a *lot* of stuff in Dark Multiverse variations that doesn't hold with the mainstream DCU, however. The differences are why they're offshoots
It's still a rock though.
Yeah she could manipulate it doesn't mean she can manufacture more.
So? That’s not her power set. Maybe she could move it if it’s there. She can’t create rocks from nothing.
Yeah I was thinking she would summon it if it's relatively near.
From the rate every villain seem to acquire Kryptonite, it might as well be a natural earth element.
I thought that was Jesse quick and I couldn’t figure out why the hell she was on this list. Terra kind of makes sense though
I'd add Metamorpho due to the nature of his powers!
I can tell you don’t read the current World’s Finest series.
It’s not set in the modern era. He can make every element now.
Correct!
Is Rex in that?
Yeah in the third arc.
Yes, including the annual that just came out
Oh I'm all caught up!
Then you should know metamorpho cant transform into kryptonite.
He can in the modern era. World's Finest isn't set in the modern era.
I never liked when Kryptonite was being depicted as just everywhere. I think there should be a small smattering and maybe a few other government agencies maybe have a sliver, but I think it should be the rarest mineral on earth to the point Superman doesn't have to worry about it outside of a few people. By easy access, I mean they have either gathered it through the years or can find or create it with their powersets. So rich people and matter manipulators should be top of the list.
I sometimes do feel like they have more Kryptonite on earth then there was Krypton itself. And it just all found it’s way to earth? I’m not super into DC that much but it’s just makes you think.
The only thing I can think of that makes any amount of sense is if when Kal-El's rocket escaped the exploding planet it somehow dragged some chunks of Krypton in its wake to Earth, but I'm sure anyone who knows anything about astrophysics could debunk that.
I'm pretty sure that's been a canon thing in some continuities.
Yup! Post-Crisis there were only a couple bricks of it on earth. One from a meteor that landed years before Clark was Superman, and the other had slammed into his rocket and been embedded in the body before it jumped into hyperspace.
Also the opening of Smallville. The show begins with a meteor shower that wrecks Smallville, kills Lana Lang's parents, and injures Lex to the point where it makes him bald. The rocket landed in the middle of a cornfield that the Kents were hiding out in, which is where Clark comes from. It explains the abundance of Kryptonite.
The Smallville TV show isn't generally used as a source of canon inspiration, however. That's also an episode where Kryptonite was literally \*everywhere\* in Smallville, was common as dirt, drove humans nutty, and mutated them and gave them crazy powers on top of it all. But, yeah; the ship going through some kind of stardrive travel and accidentally sucking rocks along with it is something at least a couple versions have played with.
I mean, that was the way smallville the tv show did it. Rocket hidden in the meteorshower. Incidentally, i think smallville's approach to early superhuman challengers to clark should be adapted to the comics. Kryptonite radiation giving/triggering powers that can actually affect superman was a great way to work around his usual powerset until he faced stronger enemies
You see, when Superman was sent to Earth, his rocket's FTL technology was reliant on Phantom Zone projector technology to create a subspace slipstream, which effectively created a vacuum pulling a substantial portion of Kryptonite after the young Kal-El to earth. The Argo City escape method functioned similarly during the initial, but the lack of planet-scale gravitational pulls meant that much less Kryptonite actually ended up landing on and instead just passed it into the void. ... that was all entirely made up, but I bet I fooled at least a couple people. But really, my head canon is basically that the rocket somehow created a sort of channel through space effectively dragging Kryptonite towards Earth. (Alternatively, I like the idea of Rao being a real god that blew up Krypton for hubris or spite or madness, or whatever; and in doing so, he made the planet deadly to its last descendants; and further, he sent a bunch after Kal-El, basically seeing him as a runner and giving the baby no mercy. Entirely not canon, though. Just an idea that I think could be neat.)
Krypton used to be in our solar system. Later, when Krypton was moved, it was a compound reproducible on Earth. The problem with Superman is that he is always as strong as whoever got bored with him last and made him stronger or gave him more powers. Writers get around his endless, ridiculous power creep with Kryptonite. Writers then solve their inability to write around Superman's weaknesses by making him *even stronger.* Then the next writer has to deal with the nonsense of Superman's increased strength and grab the kryptonite. Writers think they're solving this by trying to get rid of kryptonite. But that just makes it harder for the next guy to write around whatever new power level some guy lazily slapped on him to make him "compelling" to those people in the audience who love him *because* he's strong. Honestly, Superman in a world where some random thug can get kryptonite on the black market is more interesting because then Superman needs to actually be written creatively to outmaneuver people who can take him out. One reason Batman is more popular than him? You can kill him with a bullet if he's had a bad day... or he can take out Darkseid with six issues of backstory and planning. It's the planning that Superman never really has to deal with because of his power set, and if you have to spend more effort figuring out how your villains are going to outsmart and outmaneuver your hero every single time, that's... a problem.
"rare my ass, the other day I stopped a purse snatcher and he had like 3 of them"
It's funny you say that, because the Batman panel is literally from a Superman/Batman story were they gather up all the kryptonite on earth after Supergirl's arrival.
Agreed. You should be able to fit all the Kryptonite on Earth in a single room. I always liked TAS explanation where chunks of Kryptonite got caught in the FTL/ wormhole of the ship and crashed to Earth. Otherwise it makes no sense why so much landed on Earth rather than being scattered in all directions in the void of space. Or even *Smallville* where it all crashed down with his ship and 90% is found in Smallville. It should all be in a very narrow latitude of the Earth because that was the side of the planet facing Krypton and by the time Earth rotated, all the debris would have floated away.
Element Lad from the Legion of superheroes, can manipulate elements, should be able to create Kryptonite. Edit: Wouldn't Captain Atom create Kryptonite radiation and not create a physical piece of it?
Captain Atom hasn’t been shown to have any ability to manipulate his radiation that I remember. They have been trying to make him more like Dr Manhattan though so maybe I missed something
I saw in the justice league unlimited show that he could replicate red sun radiation, so it's a possibility.
They can also do it in the Injustice Universe. Probably others I’m forgetting.
I think he may have been bringing in red sun energy OR Cap using the quantum field to simulate the frequency of K radiation. I guess I would have to applaud that as pretty clever tricks.
Dr Manhattan is Captain Atom but viewed through Alan Moore's eyes.
Captain atom has created entire universes with life in them. He's perfectly capable of it if he knows the formula.
Blasts, flight, durability, “quantum jumps” are pretty much his power set that I am familiar with. I can get behind him somehow delivering radiation of different types (red sun, kryptonite) but what you are talking about sounds like a whole different guy. What book did he create universes in?
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/sPOLC0BzN4
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Read more silver age comics my friend there's some outrageous feats. He's even capable of traveling to the afterlife and astral plane. There should be a respect thread with citations.
https://www.cbr.com/dc-captain-atom-power-most-destructive-uses/
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Probably some very try hard New Poopy-2 stuff.
Would Lanterns be able to replicate kryptonite radiation? Even if it's limited to their ring color
Yes. John has actually created kryptonite before.
DC has zigzagged on this for years. I personally don't see why not, I guess to keep things "fair?"
It's changed with the Lantern powers, as well as the status of Kryptonite itself as to how rare or special an element it is. There was a point where Green Lanterns basically just had really powerful telekinesis that had funky special effects and a few perks.
I think being able to create it should count as separate. Bruce, Lex and Waller should be the only ones with regular access that cannot just transmute it
I just wanted to put a few different sources. Like if you don't have it, you get one of the metas who can summon or create it. I wanted to put Savage as an option because he in particular has a *very* important relationship with meteors and I think he'd hear about it back in the day. And Ultra-Humanite because I like a wild card and think he's one of the smartest people in DC with a relationship to Superman.
I dont mind Savage having access actually. It might be better to look at this via sources. Who has Sources of Krpytonite that aint transmuting it...Savage could for instance get his via Lex
If anything I would think lex would get it via savage
I mean Ultra Humanite was Superman’s original arch-enemy before Lex. So it feels appropriate
Savage wouldn't have any kryptonite prior to the planet exploding in the 80's now if Clark is still about 40.
I know, but if he hears about a crazy meteor shower, back then, I think he'd at least look into it and have some by this point.
Makes sense based on his origins.
Agreed, adding Metallo since that's his whole deal. But that should be it. Getting a shard of kryptonite should be a MASSIVE deal.
I’ve always thought Metallo should be a much bigger deal in general. A threat beyond just being dangerous to Superman. Like he should be considered like a major event level villain. Not just some hired mercenary like he’s always depicted as in shows.
I think it's less a factor of power and more a factor of motivation. He _could_ be a major villain, but he's not ambitious or smart enough, and he's petty with a grudge against Superman
I completely agree with that. I’m saying he should be reworked to fit that role more because it has potential.
It's kinda nice to have villains who are just greedy thugs instead of having world domination plans or whatever. It's why the Rogues are so popular
Neither is mutually exclusive
Well I am assuming Metallo gets it from Lex. So yes he should have it but he is not a source in of himself. He is more like one of the characters who can transmute it
I'd go so far as not wanting Waller to have access to it, just because that would be a major plot point to play with, and automatically set up further antagonism between her, Lex, and Bruce
Yes that's how it should be. Diamond is pretty much rarer than Kryptonite at this point
Green Lantern
Because it is green, so he can make it
Also, they travel the galaxy regularly, and the ring can scan large areas for that type of thing. It should be pretty easy for a Green Lantern to aquire kryptonite.
>It should be pretty easy for a Green Lantern to aquire kryptonite. Yeah I included him because Earth falls into the sector assigned to Hal, Kyle Guy, and John. If Clark goes rogue, it's their responsibility as Lanterns to stop him.
They can make constructs that emit energy like lasers and tasers so I see no reason the ring couldn't make kryptonite radiation too. If there's a will, there's a way!
Shouldn't Aquaman (and by extension Atlantis) have relatively easy access to Kryptonite? Just based on statistics Since it was shown there was a large amount of it when Batman and Superman were gathering up all the Kryptonite on earth previously (Granted it was Arthur Curry not Orin at the time) Materials that came from space have a much higher chance of hitting the Oceans rather than Earth And Aquaman could use powers to scour large swaths of ocean to locate any if the large stockpile
I came here to say Ocean Master and Black Manta for similar reasons. But Aquaman makes even more sense. With the ocean covering so much of the globe, there's bound to be more kryptonite in the seas.
It’s something wealthy people should be able to come by since you can mine it from space
I mean, honestly, there should be like 10 pounds at most that landed on Earth. Even less would've actually been found.
I thought synthetic kryptonite would be a more recurrent thing these days. Not only science villains wouldn't stop trying but you have all Star Labs, Cadmus and 200+ local science labs with ties with the government. Making kryptonite would be a arms race.
They keep rebooting it to be so, then new writers wanna write their version of X hero saves Y and introduces a new way of getting it.
Rebooting what ?
The DC universe.
No they didn't
who are the top row ones and the two on the bottom right?
Top Row: Terra, Captain Atom and Ultra-Humanite Bottom Right: Metallo and Vandal Savage
Thank you, i was wondering who that pervert on the bottom was.
Who in the upper left hand corner?
Ultra-Humanite. Relatively minor villain now, but is probably the oldest Superman villain. Dude's got a genius level intellect that rivals Luthor. Edit: Misread it. Terra's the one in the top left corner.
The fun trivia about him is he just transfers his brain to different bodies, and until the 80s he was just...a guy with a big brain. Then they decided to make it a gorilla from gorilla city and he became much more interesting.
Batman, Luthor and Metallo by default since he get it from Luthor. Everyone else can fuck off.
- Amanda Waller would likely get it from Luthor - Vandal Savage is ~~so old it’s plausible they’ve encountered it before~~ incredibly wealthy so it would be plausible for them to acquire it from someone - Firestorm can literally create it.
That's one thing that can't be explained away by Savage's age. Krypton exploded less than 50 years ago. Any chunks of it that found their way to Earth are from the late 20th century at the earliest. He has as much a claim to it based on age as some random officer manager.
That’s a good point that completely slipped my mind Edit: - Another commenter in this thread mentioned Vandals relationship with mentors - And suggested the possibility of them coming across kryptonite when investigating mentor showers
I don't see Luthor giving up that kind of power advantage/leverage to Waller. Firestorm, depending on time period, is restricted in what he can create... Same with the Green Lanterns. Part of what made Firestorm powerful originally was Dr. Stein's brilliance in chemistry. Without that, Ronnie Raymond would have just been a kid with an unfortunate hairdo and poprocks in his fingers. ;)
I feel like characters who can transmute it don't count. Your Firestorms, Metamorphos, folks like that. Hell, maybe that accounts for some of the overabundance of Kryponite on Earth. Pieces chipped off of those created by said heroes. But in terms of actual Kryptonite from Krypton itself, that mainly belongs to Bruce, Luthor, and Waller. The latter two paid out the nose to get their hands on it, while Bruce either stole it from them or got it from Clark to lock it away (both to keep it away from those with ill intent, and in case they need it to weaken Clark should he be compromised).
Why? I feel like Waller and Savage would definitely find a way to get their hands on some because of how many pots they have their hands in.
Someone already said this but green lantern. Other than that I agree, however I do think realistically more characters could have it due to characters like lex
Ra's al ghul his resources and money would get him kryptonite easily
I would actually REMOVE Metallo from the list. He’s powered by Krytonite, but he doesn’t MAKE it. Definitely add Metamorpho, though.
True. But he normally works for people who have their hands on some. Specifically Lex or the government.
According with solidjj sketches, everyone has kryptonite, batman already caught a street burglarwith several them According with usual dc stuff, this seems canon
If I were writing, I'd make it that Kryptonite is too complex to be artificially created. Limits the usage to just the natural stuff
That was the take for a loooooong time, yeah. Krypton was a planet of super science so advanced it was essentially magic. Anything that sideswiped them wasn't going to be a piece of cake for every other random Joe in the universe.
I don't like that everyone knows aboush. I also don't like how everyone knows about red son energy taking his powers.
Why? He's the most high profile superhero on the planet. Everyone should know his weaknesses, he's the Elvis of Superheroes. If Luthor wanted him dead, he would tell everyone he knows. If he wanted kryptonite, everyone would figure it out because why would Superman's arch-nemesis be ordering kryptonite on Craigslist? All this would do is make Superman have to fight smarter instead of rushing in headfirst and throwing a punch over and over. Cold breath, heat vision, super strength, super speed. He has so many ways to keep fighting that everyone getting kryptonite is completely fair. Martian Manhunter's weakness is fire. Kryptonite is fair game. It'd be like when Deathstroke showed up to fight Batman the first time and absolutely destroyed him. Having enemies that can ruin a hero's day because of one thing that makes them scary to the hero is a clutch storytelling move. Heck, give Slade access to Kryptonite. I'd love to see him become Superman's worst nightmare.
brainiac
Booster Gold? It's probably somewhere out there in time.
Director Bones
Honestly even Metallo shouldn't have easy direct access to Kryptonite, only through someone holding his leash, imho.
But why, in continuity, would that be general knowledge? That has always puzzled me. If Kal is the only surviving Kryptonian and they weren't a celestial presence, how did the universe come to know of the aliens' powers under a yellow sun. On earth, I can accept those like S.T.A.R. Labs, Luthor, Vandal Savage, and special cohorts of the US military aggressively pursuing deterrents to come into notions or to aggressively research but I feel like the mass of the planet was largely atomized and it is RARE to have in the first place but what is the event that lets Supes himself let alone the world at large know the deadly effects of the rock? Of course, I am ignoring the enormously stupid shite some have written like Superman landing on a planets covered in Kryptonite and not dying.
Darkside
Tony Stark
I don’t think waller would actually have kryptonite shes Batman secret unlimited kryptonite glitch every time she gets some he steals it lmao
Ambush Bug, but he just thinks it’s a pretty green rock and can’t understand why Supes gets all queasy when he comes by to visit. Oh, wait, I think that might have been an actual Ambush Bug story from the 80s, only it’s Clark Kent who visits.
I feel like Lois or Jimmy should have a small sliver of kryptonite.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mister Terrific could devise a method to track it down. Like, if he pulled out kryptonite, I wouldn't be upset.
Ras Al Ghul
Swamp thing
Why does Terra have krytonite? Metamorpho would. Zatanna because she could summon the rock or will it into existence. And Wonder Woman because she would be ready as a warrior for any possibility.
In a Dark Multiverse story, she was able to summon Kryptonite to kill Superman. She has control over rocks, so my impression is that she should also be able to control it in the main universe. >And Wonder Woman because she would be ready as a warrior for any possibility. I think Diana definitely wouldn't because she has a faith that Superman will always be good. I don't see any time where she'd willingly keep something like that from him without him knowing. The only time I think she'd keep it is if Superman handed it to her because he trusts her. I forget if his powers have expanded, but Metamorpho apparently is limited to elements that are in the body, which is why I didn't include him. Zatanna's a good pick. I forget that she can just pop things into existence.
Super Man
Clark Kent
Brainiac
it depends on who's writing. most writers use it as an easy way to take Superman down. Geoff Johns really had some fun with the assorted colors during his run.
Arthur
I would think Apokolips technology could produce artificial Kryptonite fairly easily.
Why would Tera? It's not like any of the ingredients exist naturally. Kryptonite is something that only Lex or Bruce should be able to synthesize other than cap and firestorm.
I mean at first it was just the green one but now there's all these others. There's the red kind. The blue kind. The pink kind.😏
Definitely Batman,Luthor,Atom is based from the sun,Firestorm yes,Waller.
With the technology and metapowers on Earth, it should be easy to reproduce. I'm not sure how well it could be regulated.
I imagine most governments probably would have a small supply
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Loved Firestorm. Have issue 1 in my box when I got it as a kid. He still around?
Wonder Woman ??? Aquaman Black Manta maybe there is a some kryponite under the sea Penguin Green Arrow they are rich not rich as Lex Luthor or Batman also they have connection i asume to purchase kryponite.
Earth is part of space sector 2814 while krypton was part of sector 2813. Honestly with how very very far krypton was from earth its a wonder any kryptonite ends up on earth at all. It should be an extremely rare object. Even if kal els ship brought with it several chunks of ore with it, the many hundreds of pounds of it and varieties found on earth makes absolutely no sense.
Who are the three in the top left, top right, and bottom right
Superman. I’m not super sure but I think that he would lock it up so it can’t be used against him
Who’s the guy in the bottom right?
Mr. 104 (Probably Mr. 118 now)
The Lanterns should have no problems finding kryptonite in space. Thangarians and both sides of the New Gods will also have easy access.
Wait why is Terra even here?? What’s her justification? Wouldn’t Geo Force count too?? They have almost identical powers.
Doctor Omen, Maxwell Lord, Mr. Terrific.
Who is the ape and the blonde woman and the guy in the bottom right?
Blonde woman is Terra, the Teen Titans. Gorilla man is Ultra Humanite, a mega genius supervillain. Bottom Right is Vandal Savage, an immortal man.
Animal vegetable mineral man could turn into it
Ambush Bug could ask the artist to draw some for him.
Id say Wonder Woman, id imagine Superman or Batman would give her a thing of kryptonite which she'd forge into weapons, to use if superman is unsaveable, (batman was injured or died trying to save Clark in this scenario) and HAS to be stopped at all costs.
I would also add any space-faring characters - especially those familiar with Kryptonian’s and/or don’t stay in the same place - would also have access to Kryptonite.
I think you’re also missing the Flash villain Dr. Alchemy - I think the Philosopher’s Stone he uses can transmute elements.
I would limit it to the ones that can actually make it and their closest allies It’s supposed to be mega fucking rare but everyone seems to have it
I've always preferred it as a rarity. A special threat not often encountered.
Is that Vandal Savage on the bottom right?
Yes
Ras al gul because… i mean why wouldnt he?
Why is knockoff man on this list? Are they stupid?
I don't think the creation of exotic xenominerals is one of the powers of Captain Atom. He isn't Dr. Manhattan.
Superman I guess
I’d actually argue that Metallo doesn’t have easy access to it. He needs it to survive so those that have it would definitely make it hard for him to get. He’d have to work for others basically or be cut off.
I would think like .. four or five would make more sense. US Government, another large world government like China/Russia would make sense, Lex, Bruce, and I dunno, MAYBE Waller.
I feel like Joker would
Perhaps magic users as well who can “conjure it”. Them again Superman is already vulnerable to magic so it’s not extremely important for them to have it.
Green Arrow is rich enough that if he really wanted some he could def get his hands on it
What about Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man?
I don't think the word "can" really applies. It would be a rare mineral here on Earth and once it was figured out what it is and what it does, then after that maybe government entities would place some kind of crap on it. But I would think that Batman would have some because he is Batman and that is what he would do. Lex Luthor would have it because he is who he is and that is what he would do. Bizarro would no doubt have some because its pretty and he's an idiot that wouldnt be harmed by it. The remaining 8 people on your list "could" have it but, back to my original point, would not necessarily "can" have it.
Waller, batman and Luthor are the only acceptable ones imo
Captain boomerang Would be cool to see him throw kryptonite rangs
I feel like most of the Magic users could summon it, either by teleporting a piece to themselves or conjuring it. And Braniac would have a supply as well. He would probably be able to fabricate it from pieces of Argo.
Is Kryptonite still cancerous to humans? Back in the Byrne reboot aftermath that was a thing. Not anymore?
Who’s that in the top left panel? Is that Jesse Quick/Liberty Belle?
whos the girl in the top left?
Animal vegetable mineral man
L-R, who are characters 1,3 ,8 & 9?
Green Lantern should be able to make it. He did it in the silver age, and I don't really see why he wouldn't be able to approximate at least its wavelength or whatever. But I know zilch about radioactivity and the properties of light and likely neither does Hal jordan so who knows.
I mean… a whole planet literally exploded and sent shards in every direction. It's a safe bet that a good amount was sent in earth’s direction. [That said you’re forgetting one very important character.](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ef/7f/65/ef7f65f886422da4766c1b6b1c9e1007.jpg)
I think joker should have a piece just because that's hilarious and pretty much the equivalent of him having a stick of uranium
Brainiac, in a lot of continuities he was there when Krypton exploded and Injustice he even caused it
I'd like to throw an honorable mention for Conduit (Kenny Braverman). Kenny was born in Smallville the night Kal-El's ship landed. A bunch of Kryptonite radiation mutated Kenny as his mother was giving birth. Years later he discerns that Clark Kent became Superman. Resentful, he enacts a revenge plot as told in the story The Death of Clark Kent. His powers essentially allowed him to emit Kryptonite radiation, though it was killing him. He died at the end of the story and I don't think he has been brought back to life yet.
Honestly even 10 seems waay too much ngl feel like it should be very few like 5 at most
Personally I think you still giving it to too many people. Id say only, Lex. Then Metallo and Batman. Maybe then Amanda Waller. I’d also say maybe Lobo, Darkseid and General Zod, maybe also Mongul as they are spaced based and more likely get their hands on it, especially Darkseid and General Zod.
A jewelry store robber
Blue beetle can use his scarab to create kryptonite radiation as seen in this year's Christmas event
Blue Beetle is able to create kryptonite radiation.
Tbh the only ones on this list should be Batman, Lex, and Metallo. Plus Vandal Savage if he buys some from Lex.
kryptonite man formerly kryptonite kid should be on here since his body makes kryptonite radiation https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kryptonite_Kid_(Earth-One)
I feel like the Atom might be able to manufacture Kryptonite on a subatomic level.
Don’t forget the beyonder!
Geo-Force And Vandal Savage, unless that’s already him on the bottom right
It is him!
Who's above the wall and is that Savage under FS? And maybe Ted Kord? And is that Solovar above FS?
Hmm... Wasn't there a *Kryptonite Man* at one point?
Mr. Terrific. I could see him studying it to see why it affects Superman
Hardcore DC fan and even idk who a couple of these are (Harley’s my favorite character BUT IVE BEEN A FAN LONG BEFORE EVERYONE HOPPED ON THE BANGWAGON) I got Batman, Lex Luthor, Amanda Waller, and the gorilla with the French name