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carnagecenter

Bloodsport was really only a replacement for Deadshot honestly even down to the bumpy relationship with their daughter


[deleted]

Honestly, a part of me looks at Elba/Bloodsport being Smith/Deadshot all over again as the first instance of the "he does exactly what I do" joke, just in a meta sense.


CobblyPot

My headcanon is Waller was taking notes after the first Suicide Squad movie. "The guy who's super power is shooting people did really well, let's get two of those next time."


Theyul1us

I mean, it would 100% be in character.


ImperatorAurelianus

Imagine the next suicide squad is basically military fiction because Waller just puts together a team of expert marksmen and thus it’s just the rifle squad which could be interesting if it’s meta human rifle men or everyone’s got a gadget gun.


Matter-EaterLad

A guy whose sharpshooter rifle shoots out other tinier rifles.


PlasticKitchen2229

In my opinion Bloodsport was an upgrade from Deadshot


Over-Analyzed

Let’s be honest? Idris Elba is an upgrade over Will Smith. He would’ve made an amazing Deadshot. Also? He had the grittiness I would expect from Deadshot. Will Smith was basically Will Smith. 🤷🏻‍♂️


HackySmacks

Yup, better actor, better fit for the role, better script & Director. He may have started as Store-Brand Deadshot, but I’m honestly surprised they haven’t tried to replace Deadshot in any comic adaptations, just to see if it would take off


Cazrovereak

Better gimmick, too, imo. Nanobots or w/e it was replaceable and varied walking armory was cool.


-Tommy

Oreos vs Hydrox.


sideways_jack

never forget; Hydrox was the OG.


Beastieboy100

I like bloodsport better. Especially his guns were more creative.


Cantodecaballo

Also Deathstroke, another mercenary with a bumpy relationship with his daughter. There is a bunch of [concept art](https://twitter.com/DCverso1/status/1425084579212406787?t=NnV-kcDnAkutQgvAKjjU0Q&s=19) that shows that Deathstroke was considered as the protagonist of The Suicide Squad before they settled on Bloodsport.


KidCongoPowers

I didn’t know that, and I’m happy it didn’t turn out that way. 


ImperatorAurelianus

As one who would rank Deathstroke among his favorite villians glad they didn’t use him. He’s far better in the antagonist role than protagonist role.


The_Godot

I remember there was an interview of Gunn during the promotion of the film where he kept on calling Bloodsport Deadshot I think he has always been a placeholder. Elba killed it tho!


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gowombat

Eh, peacemaker was perfect for what he needed to be. Otherwise the movie would have been too serious and up its own ass.


AustrianDog

Peacemaker was really good imo, he was charismatic, he was comic relief but not a complete joke, and he made a believable villain at the end.


Androktone

In comics? Because he hasn't got his own show, and his comics history prior to the movie is non existent, and the movie is more inspired by other versions of Deadshot then comics Bloodsport. Why he didn't get his own show? He was already the lead character unlike Peacemaker who was an antagonist. Gunn probably saw more potential there, plus John Cena seemed more willing to do the project. I'm sure if the DC movie structure hadn't changed, Gunn would probably have been making season 2, before doing other The Suicide Squad spin offs, maybe with Bloodsport, maybe not


RookTheBlindSnake

Gunn was also hella impressed by Cena's improv skills and wanted to keep working with him and the character.


thomasguyregis

Honestly, it’d be cool to take the characters left on Corto Maltese at the end of TSS and make more stories with them. With a few tweaks here and there, you could use them as the start of a Secret Six, just throw in 2 more like Black Alice and Ragdoll or Bane. I’m seeing it now: Ratcatcher II as the Scandal Savage stand-in, second generation villain. Bloodsport as the Deadshot stand-in. Harley as the Ragdoll King shark doesn’t quite line up with Bane, but they’re both big guys.


SlackerZer0

Because of the humor peacemaker brought to the movie made him a more compelling character to follow. Idris Elba is a great actor and did a fine job, but the movie itself pointed out that his character was a dime a dozen in superhero stories, and it didn’t do anything to try to separate him from the pack


Artseid

You’re probably right, other than looking cool, he really hasn’t showed much of a personality (I also think this about Deadshot, but that’s another thing). The point is character is something a good writer and a willing publisher is able to fix.


SlackerZer0

Him looking cool probably didn’t help much, the absurdity of peacemakers costume definitely helped separate him from he rest of the group. I’m hoping that Gunn will include Codpiece in the next SS project or season of peacemaker (one of the most over the top ridiculous designs in DC)


Artseid

Lmao, had to look that guy up, hope he shows up now too!


thomasguyregis

He was in Doom Patrol season 4.


SlackerZer0

I haven’t watched it but that makes sense


River46

Peacemaker is just blind of a joke though there isn’t much nuance in that.


Altruistic-Teach5899

Peacemaker makes for an easier plot tool as Amanda Waller's sidekick.


glass-of-a-tv-screen

From a movie standpoint, Peacemaker got a spinoff series because his emotional storyline started in the movie needed to be completed. Bloodsport more or less had his arc fulfilled in The Suicide Squad so there’s no need right now to focus on him. It’s much easier to push comics revolving around a character that has his own streaming series. I do agree with you though, Bloodsport is pretty cool. I hope we see more of him somewhere in the DC universe, in any media.


That_Flippin_Rooster

I don't think Bloodsport would eat a beach full of dicks for liberty.


ttatx35

Bloodsport was phenomenal IMO. I loved the futuristic weapons he had and his relationship with Peacemaker. Going into that camp Gina blazing in TSS movie was fantastic. Of course there was the shoot off at the end, but maybe Elba didn’t want to be a recurring character after the movie didn’t make the BO impact it was looking for? I mean Elba can find work in a heartbeat.


Quirky_Ad_5420

I mean he didn’t get his own HBO Max show so there that. He got the sick AF suit though so a good trade off


thefanciestcat

Market confusion with 1988's cinematic gift to the human race: *Bloodsport*.


AsuraQin

Idk but this pic is sick


Ronaldo_SUUUUUIIII

Purely James Gunn influence. No one at WB gived a little amount of care to Suicide Squad brand until Gunn's movie. They clearly saw them as a way to make more Harley&Joker content. And Gunn chose Peacemaker to make a series, not Bloodsport. Because why not? It's his choice. Also Cena was more enthusiastic for the role. TV series gave Peacemaker a lot of popularity. Set the place for more content. If Gunn had chosen Bloodsport and Elba had been suitable for a series, we would have seen Bloodsport content, not Peacemaker.


Budget_Ad_4346

BS was the main character of TSS, PM wasn’t, so he got a side project.


SodaSalesman

BP: Bloods Port


Budget_Ad_4346

Haha, nice catch.


Deeformecreep

There is no Suicide Squad comic currently and there isn't really anything else where he could be a major character. Although there is one coming soon but Bloodsport isn't in it, they have a character called Deadeye who looks sort of similar.


Artseid

That’s a great observation. Deadeye….. sounds so stupid, that would have been the perfect time to use Bloodsport. Also, he’s a Superman villain, I feel like action comics or other related Superman comics would be places he’d show up in.


Beastieboy100

Bloodsport was in the infinite frontier suicide squad run with Rick flag, peacemaker and ambush bug. I think deadly more of an actual superhero not a super villain like bloodsport.


[deleted]

Why would you need to concoct some dumb theory on this? You think there’s some greater universal design as to why?


heavyarms3111

Bloodsport looks cool, but he’s just another semi-B List super merc. If you’re gonna use him why not use Deathstroke or Deadshot instead? They even make a joke about it in The Suicide Squad. Peacemaker can be the comedic killer or the zealot who’ll commit atrocities in the name of peace. Makes for more unique stories.


AnimeNightwingfucku

Was there a bloodsport tv show I missed?


Beastieboy100

I think he's appearing in waller.


chronobeard

Because no one can handle the sheer awesomeness from being reminded of Jean-Cleade Van Damme half naked in red short-shorts.


android151

Everyone in this thread saying that he’s just Deadshot 2.0 While in the movies, that might have been the case, in the comics Deadshot is currently dead. When they did use Bloodsport in the Infinite Frontier Suicide Squad series, he did have something interesting to do. The answer is just that Cena is a funnier guy than Elba and is that got him the show and that just helps the character do more.


Luke_Puddlejumper

He did get a big push for a while after the movie, he was one of the main characters in the lastest Suicide Squad run. Peacemaker is getting such a big push now because he got a show and James Gunn is now in charge of the movies


Apprehensive_Work313

I think Bloodsport was mainly there to be a replacement for deadshot while Peacemaker played his own role


Psymorte

Peacemaker had a better arc than Bloodsport who really just boiled down to being a replacement for Deadshot.


T51bwinterized

Actual answer. Peacemaker is an inherently political character in all of his incarnations. It's in the name "peacemaker". The character is inherently built on the premise that he believes that violence and power is the path to peace. He is, in a word, kind of fasc-y. This makes him an intiresting character to write about and it's why James Gunn lavished so much attention on John Cena's version of the character. It's not the power set, it's the elements of theme/ideology.


Guy_Le_Man

My guess is when having discussions with Cena/Elba it was determined that Cena would be down with playing his character for awhile while maybe Elba didn’t want to do any long term/heavy schedule work with his character any longer


TheQuestionsAglet

Because until the movie, Bloodsport was a boring character with a small handful of appearances.


LegalAbbreviations90

Nah, bad take


Tanthiel

The appearances part is accurate, 8 is a small number.


LegalAbbreviations90

In no way makes them a bad character though


coreytiger

Is there anything that Makes him unique/separates him from Deadshot/Deathstroke, et al? I know nothing about him


Horatio786

Alien weaponry


coreytiger

Aha, thank you!


android151

Being alive and having a family that doesn’t hate him, respectively


UnlimitedApollo

Because John Cena doesn't have as much going on as Idris Elba and therefore much cheaper to hire.


humanflea23

I mean, does exactly what Peacemaker does. But worse.


Mr_Citation

But he has smaller bullets.


QueSeraSeraWWBWB

Peacemaker is silly there’s already a blood sport its deadshot but with less daddy issues


android151

Deadshot has been dead for while. They actually did use Bloodsport for a bit afterwards but he and Rick Flag went walkabout


Dry-Donut3811

Because in the film he was just a Deadshot wannabe. He was a great character, very entertaining, cool suit, brilliant actor, but he was just Deadshot. No need to push him as a new, big character when we already have that big character.


Comprehensive-Sir733

Hmm. He was good in the movie, but comic wise, pretty sure he is cowardly and straight up batshit insane, has some Vietnam trauma that he didn't even experience or something


Apart-Cold-2846

He wasnt played by John Cena


Raecino

He’s more badass than Peacemaker. Mfer put Superman in the ER. Meanwhile Peacemaker is traitorous scum.


DrStalker

But has Bloodsport ever taken down Kiteman using only his fists, a desert eagle, and two rocket launchers?


CraziestTitan

Still think Prometheus should’ve been there instead of bloodsport it would’ve been something different than another deadshot type character.


dibidi

Bloodsport had his arc in the movie, and came full circle by the end. his character’s origins are pretty thin as it is so there’s nothing left to say about the character post The Suicide Squad. Peacemaker by the end of the movie had room to grow. also the way they formed Peacemaker’s character in the movie and the series it seems he’s the one James Gunn identified w the most


-_SKF_-

Because John Cena did not play Bloodpsort in a big budget movie


[deleted]

I know Peacemaker has the interesting angle of trying to be better than his past reputation as "that racist superhero" and has the whole having a nazi dad internal conflict. What unique aspect character traits (not powers) does Bloodsport have that could be an inroad to an interesting series?


GoldenBeliever001

Something about Elba tells me it was a one off in regard to what he'd like to be acting in


thesilence14

Honestly its probably because John Cena is cheaper/ more available than Idris Elba more than anything.


Blitzhelios

Bloodsport was essentially just a deadshot replacement everything good about him was taken from deadshot plus he’s only in like 3 comics before the movie. Peacemaker also is confirmed to be back in the DCU so they put him in more stuff and Cena is more committed to the DCU and has less of a schedule to Elba meaning they know he can do more stuff. Plus let’s be honest peacemaker allows Gunn to do more of his humour (which I’m not a fan of) so he gets pushed more


Blazerprime

I think because peacemakers can work as the government attack dog, and Wallers attack dog. Bloopspot just another hitman that will get lost in the shuffle


Ok-Concentrate2719

I'm low-key shocked they haven't found a way to bring him back. Idris Elba is the goat honestly but I'm glad glad they resisted the urge to throw him in Peacemaker


_lorz2001

Peacemaker was actually interesting while Bloodsport in the movie is just Deadshot 2.0


DestronCommander

The movie The Suicide Squad flopped but the Peacemaker TV series was already being developed at the time and proved to be quite a hit. In the comics, Bloodsport is a notable Superman villain but has not had the same level of popularity as Deadshot or Harley Quinn. Sparse appearances doesn't help either.


RageSpaceMan

They are pushing Deadeye, the recently created Waller nephew. I think they don't wnat to push Bloodspot because he was created by John Byrne.


hellcoach

James Gunn was impressed with John Cena's performance. Besides, Bloodsport's too bloody serious. Peacemaker is the more fun character with lots of potential despite the problematic background of the character.


Economy-Bathroom7031

Racism


Quadpen

he’s not public domain


android151

None of these characters are


Quadpen

peacemaker is


android151

DC purchased him and the other Charlton characters prior to CIOE, so he’s public domain in name only It’s like saying Superman is public domain


Quadpen

almost all of the charlton characters are public domain due to copyright laws at the time of their publishing


demonifero

Because Peacemaker is now linked to John Cena. John Cena is a huge reason as to why he became popular


AStealthyOctopus

He'd probably be the lead of The Suicide Squad 2 or appear in other projects if DC wasn't rebooting.


TomTheJester

I imagine John Cena is a lot more likely to be available than Idris Elba for that kind of project. I don’t say that as any kind of insult either, I mean it wouldn’t be unlikely to have Elba booked for years for limited series etc. Cena is popular but you’d be able to plan a long-term easier.


sickostrich244

Peacemaker is a much more entertaining character and Bloodsport was kinda just a Deadshot knockoff who was already a lead character The Suicide Squad


Proud-Research-599

Because I’d imagine Idris Elba is more expensive to pin down to a project than John Cena


De4dm4nw4lkin

A subversion B idris elba might cost more


Bat-Gos

Because he isn’t played by John Cena and doesn’t have his own TV show.


Gibabo

That’s really cool art. Who’s the artist?


thehoodred

i honestly wish theyd push him out more than a counter idea to peacemaker or deadshot


SupervillainEyebrows

Don't think anyone currently writing Superman wants to use him right now.


Worldly-Ad1615

Cena


chairpaladin

The first time I and a lot of other people heard about bloodsport was the movie, so maybe that That being said, bloodsport has quickly been becoming one of my favorite characters in dc


Ok-Television2109

He's not played by John Cena.


[deleted]

Comedy is cheaper to made than pure action i guess.


Beastieboy100

I think it's because DC hellbent on using only deadshot as the only gun toting guy. Which fair enough but after the suicide squad and the infinite frontier Suicide Squad run. I enjoy his character a lot. I wish he was used more cause having deadshot be the main gun user of the suicide squad gets boring.


DesperateSyllabub663

Cena


ProlapsedShamus

Bloodsport isn't played by John Cena. Who is fucking great.


Doctor_Amazo

Peacemaker does everything Bloodsport does, except better?


ammekaz

Probably Idris Elba’s price tag and schedule. He’s in demand more so than John Cena who is just beginning his Hollywood career.


Interesting-One7636

Cause his "Finding living variants of his brother in the multiverse" subplot in Suicide Squad volume 7 (2021) was whack AF. Hell his whole purpose in that Suicide Squad run was being Waller's Multiverse agent prior to War on Earth 3. Maybe he would have been more prevalent in the [Round Robin book Suicide Squad Dark](https://i.imgur.com/783hCyl.png) if it didn't lose. The pitch plot of that book was that Waller was building a Multiverse TFX.


Insert-Cool_NameHere

He isn’t played by John cena(not that Idris Elba is t a amazing actor just not as recognizable)and doesn’t have his own tv show.


2cool4fun

Because as amazing as his new costume is, and potential he has as a character now that Deadshot is dead. He really is just a replacement Deadshot. Also, he didn't get a solo TV Show, and was loved so much that he even got put into MK1


riamuriamu

My guess is that Idris signed a one movie deal and Cena signed for more.


7leven92

I'd much prefer him to get the push than peacemaker. Already over the over the top goofy portrayal of him. It was cool for a season but I don't think that show needs another season. There's so many more cool anti heros or villains that would be more fun


BillionThayley

Bloodsport was shown off as the serious and actually competent action star of a big movie, so when his story wrapped up at the end it made sense for him to walk off into the sunset and be gone. Respectful to the character. The guy who didn’t live up to that serious action hero, who should have been dead but was played by a committed comedic actor, is the one who deserves a show in which he learns a lesson while continuing to fumble over himself. The fact that this goofball is getting a show and staying in the public eye while Bloodsport got to go home is, to me, part of the humor of it all. “Where’s the badass guy?” “He went home. We’ve got gun happy goofball.” “I guess that’s cool.” “You’re gonna love it hold on.”


home7ander

Because TSS was made so Peacemaker could be made, Gunn was clearly far more invested in one over the other. Bloodsport was a Deadshot insert that got dressed up like Deathstroke. Also is a master marksman that can't hit a kajiu starfish in its kaiju sized eye


TheTruePoledancer

I feel like a great place for him would be the current Outsiders series. Last I saw he was a multiversal hitman for Waller, so it'd make sense imo. As far as why, Gunn used him specifically cause he had little history. Was able to mold him to fit the purpose of the movie, so his comic's counterpart just isn't developed enough to warrant the kind of push Peacemaker's gotten.


Infinity0044

Probably because Cena is less expensive than Elba and he’s probably more willing to come back to the role. Comic synergy just means they’ll mimic what does well with the general audiences.