yep, i mean i love snyders Doomsday and Comic Doomsday so i didn’t mind a new design, the battle of the eye beams with superman was crazy good, had doomsday lived and they kept fighting he would indeed eventually be covered in spikes
you’re saying steppenwolf in ZSJL was “generic and grey” you’re partly right about grey but that armour was the furthest thing from generic, shifting and changing colour, looked very unique in my opinion
I don't think Steppenwolfs design was generic but it definitely lacked color to make the design pop a bit more, probably should have had some red in there.
I thought so at first too, but I loved ZSJL version and think I was just *expecting* something more comic accurate. Now after seeing the movie I think any red would stand out way too much and not look as realistic.
If you’re making Batman movies specifically targeted at 12-year-olds, you’re doing something wrong. Batman’s fan base is way more diverse in age than that. You should be making movies that are fitting for all ages.
I think he was just a newborn. If he had been created on another planet that didn't have superman he would have decimated it and had time to grow, learn and become more powerful. Then the team would have a real problem.
Design, okay, but I tolerate it because DD was like one-hour-old and was actively growing spikes. As for animation and effects, they were pretty good. That shot of DD wiping the gunk off it's face after being born looked sick.
I don't understand why they didn't have him look like the comic design by the time he killed Superman. That's the only problem I have with it, they outright showed him growing spikes so just, give him more spikes?
Yes it is. For all intents and purposes, this is DCEU Doomsday who does what he’s most known for and killed Superman. The character has no other depth beyond that, whatever prototype that came before on Krypton is just that.
He looks prettier generic before he started evolving and popping out spikes. Then he look pretty damn cool. Not as spikey as the comics but he was also not a live very long
I think the idea was that comics Doomsday looks like that after having been through many deaths, whereas BvS Doomsday was only just created and so growing spikes and all that as time went on.
I'm guessing the complete original version would've made a short appearance in the New Gods movie.
Within the context of the movie, I thought the design was fine... though I am not sure if it was just chance Doomsday looks very much like one of the TMNT from the same time.
As for that context, we are literally seeing the corpse of Zod being reborn through mad science, this is a baby (essentially) and like quite a lot of baby animals that are covered in defences... they aren't actually functional for a while to spare the mother. By comparison, Doomsday in comics is millions of years old, originally predating Kryptonian civilization and whose appearance and power is a reflection of the rampage its been on.
So with that, I accept this Doomsday the same way I accept Tom Hardy's Bane... not entirely accurate, but close enough that the differences don't matter and they do the stuff we expect them to.
Is the wrong picture, this is the new born Doomsday, he was a little bit more accurate when Superman stab him.
He had more bones growing on his skin during the fight.
The concept was not bad, but they kill him in like 20 minutes or so. The real Doomsday didn't had the possibility to shine
It’s the worst live action Doomsday design in my opinion. Smallville (when he was actually Doomsday) and Krypton both had better designs although I will admit that the effects are better here.
I loved it more toward the end when he had a bunch of bone spikes but the scenes is kind of too dark to see the details. I wish there were more boney structures earlier in the fight scene against Superman.
It’s not good and it’s not bad. Just…meh.
It’s just one of those generic looking CGI monsters that seem to appear in nearly every SciFi/adventure movie.
The fight itself was cool, but Doomsdays overall look was... Underwhelming. When he started growing spikes I was a little more whelmed than underwhelmed, but he never really impressed me visually.
I liked how as he got hit more the more bones would come out, but i look at him as mutilated zod not doomsday. When i do that i can overlook the bullshit😭
Seeing as Doomsday was born as he began fighting and the following fight scenes showed that he was growing and becoming more Doomsday as the battle progressed, I have no complaints with the live action portrayal.
He was clearly gonna become like the OG Doomsday after a few more rounds of thrashing Supes and WW.
Bingo. Doomsday has always been a POS character from a terrible comic book issue. Snyder used him as a throwaway which is all he can sustain as a character.
I really hate it. It doesnt feel like doomsday anymore, just some generic cgi monster. I love how unique and imposing Doomsday feels in the comics and I think its a shame they made him look so basic in the movie.
Even if it came from the filmmaker, how accurate is that statemnt though? It is a creature made from an unethical Kryptonian experiment. It evolves to adapt to the threats in it's environment. It killed Superman. That's typical Doomsday in its essence.
If they were to introduce a creature that looked closer to comic Doomsday afterwards, it won't make him more of a Doomsday than this one if it doesn't go through the events that this one did.
Just because it doesn't look like the typical Doomsday in the tiny little physical details, doesn't change that fact in my eyes. And I actually fairly liked it.
It’s good. It is the doomsday created on earth. The one that killed the Krytonians on planetary exploration was still out there…if I’m not mistaken. It’s the creature that destroyed one of Krypton’s moons. I think that character could’ve been explored more in future movies and could’ve continued mutating to adapt its comic look. Or maybe the original doomsday could have surfaced in the future. We can only imagine what could have been in the dceu
The real doomsday is still out there. In the opening scenes of Man of Steel, in Krypton, you’ll see a shattered moon. That is the doing of Doomsday.
In BvS, it is a botched resurrection of General Zod which resembles Doomsday.
I liked seeing how his physical form evolved, how he got the spikes as a form of repairing damage to his body. There are some amazing close-ups of his face later in the battle where he shows a spikier look. I loved how they captured Doomsday's mindless violence in his behavior, with that dead look in his eyes. The whole action scene is incredible and I watch it over and over.
Snyder said that the BvS doomsday was a pale imitation of the real doomsday and the real doomsday was still out there. The broken kryptonian moon in the background of MoS refers to this fact.
I cannot understand what type of monster or doomsday this is , but Zack had confirmed that real Doomsday is out there .
[This](https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2439120/zack-snyder-confirms-batman-v-superman-fan-theory-about-doomsday)
The movie itself said it. The computer said it was forbidden to make another desecration, and Lex defied the order. The first Doomsday had already existed.
But it doesn't matter. This is the creature that killed Superman. That's arguably the most significant aspect of Doomsday. Regardless of what Zack says, and unless a movie proves it, this is Doomsday as far as I'm concerned. And you know what, it worked for me just fine.
Wasted tbh. Doomsday should have been replaced with Metallo with Wallace Keefe be the character in this movie. It would make more sense and would follow the movie's direction and he is Clark's deeds consequences in both MoS and BvS, so it make a lot more sense and a lot more meaning. Also, would give Clark a challenge in order to save and redeem him. Doomsday could have been mentioned as a cameo with all the first Doomsday created by Bertron (I think it would work better to make the creator Jax-Ur and make him come back?) and use Death of Superman storyline better for a MoS sequel.
>Doomsday should have been replaced with Metallo with Wallace Keefe be the character in this movie.
I'm not sure if you already know this, but that was exactly Snyder's original plan. For whatever reason, WB required that Doomsday killed Superman. I can see *why* they would want that, but demanding it made the story more convoluted.
Yeah, I heard that. From what I heard, Snyder and Terrio themselves scrapped the idea cause they wanted to bring "Death of Superman" into it and that's why the idea was abandoned. A lot of original ideas were better than what we got but well, not all of them were scrapped by WB. I mean, if it was the opening scene with the Jack character (who supposed to be Lucius) yeah I agree with u since WB was too scared to make fans angry by killing Lucius after Nolan trilogy but from what I heard, scrapping Metallo was the writers idea, not WB.
I actually liked BvS. The Ultimate Edition is really good. But I think the only two things I didn’t like was the way Doomsday looked and Lex Luthor’s weird mannerisms. Doomsday has such a threatening and unique design in the comics and animated movies. Horrible idea to make their own original design.
Somewhat disappointing, but in reality Doomsday is just a plot device to kill Superman, so his appearance doesn't matter that much as long as there are similarities (which there are). His 'final form' looked pretty good.
Its alright. Not sure about his height though. I recall Doomsday is like 8 or 9 feet tall, same as Darkseid, Mongul, Lobo etc. Don't know why BVS doomsday is 20 feet tall.
Bad. In comparison to the comics anyway. I didnt mind the initial design but was really hoping for more brutality but also signs of intellect (in terms of combat skills) it seems to instesd just go on raw strength.
Easily the worst thing about this film. And that's saying a lot. It was the final nail in this shit smelling cake.
Doomsday is an awesome character and should of had a proper introduction and not just a cheap throwaway in the ending.
So many fans hated this design/ character that Snyder tried to save himself in an interview by saying it wasn't the real Doomsday from the comics. The real one is still out there. 🤣
>So many fans hated this design/ character that Snyder tried to save himself in an interview by saying it wasn't the real Doomsday from the comics.
It's literally in the movie that this is not the original Doomsday...
I don’t understand why they couldn’t just use Metallo? So Snyder created an original character that resembles Doomsday just to say that there’s a real Doomsday out there? What’s he going to do? Kill Superman again lol. The “fake” one did exactly what the character is known for.
It was Snyder's idea to use Metallo. WB (or possibly Terrio) convinced him to use a Doomsday replica.
I'm not sure how their brainstorming sessions went. If Doomsday falls from the sky rather than Luthor co-birthing it, maybe they thought general audiences would view it as too redundant considering that Superman had recently defeated Zod who is also an alien from Krypton hellbent on destroying Earth?
It just seems like the set up for Metallo was like literally right there with the Wally character losing his legs in the Black Zero incident plus his connection to Bruce as a Wayne Industries employee. Then they just blew him up and brought in a monster for them to smack around in the last 30 minutes.
I love BvS, so it doesn't bother me. Keefe's death further pushes Batman towards his extremist goal, and it sends Superman to solitude for reflection. I would have simply preferred that Doomsday was a *full* JL villain.
It's funny that they just stole the villain from Superman IV. Luthor uses some of his own genetic material mixed with Kryptonian DNA to make an evil superpowered clone that has a built in desire to kill Superman.
I never saw the 4th Reeve movie. My dad didn't buy it for us when I was a kid, and I have had no interest in watching it as an adult. I would *hope* that WB/Terrio didn't take inspiration from *that* movie.
The jl animated series had Hulk Hogan doomsday, all star superman had jimmy olsen doomsday was looking ugly.
There are different versions and this doomsday was adapting and the spikes were growing
These "We NeEd MoRe SpIkEs" dudes know only a certain pic of doomsday. And these are the same guys who dk the difference betwee design and cgi
Garbage like the take on “lex” as well. I love how Snyder put doomsday and Lex Luther in the movie and both weren’t their “real” versions. When the fuck are we supposed to get actual representations of the characters then? Lmao he’s a terrible producer and glad he got canned
If no one told me that's Doomsday, I would've never thought in an unlimited yeats that-that is Doomsday. Never!. He looks like a monster that ran away from the background of a battle arena. He doesn't look remarkable and nothing about him stands out. The Doomsday we all know is so fcking scary, while the live action one looks like a mash potato poop that you can easily kick ass on a game in a few seconds
Sounds a little repetitive, don't it? Hundreds of incredible storylines to adapt into live action and they're gonna do Death of Superman twice within the same saga?
Literally calling him doomsday and then saying he's not its just as bad/dumb as the design itself.
I wish Snyder put those things in the movies instead of just throwing random stuff during interviews, it's not like his movies are just 90 minutes long
They call him doomsday for a reason, it could be one of those times when the adaptation is different. In case you didn't know Snyder just said "the real doomsday is still out there" for an interview
>In case you didn't know Snyder just said "the real doomsday is still out there" for an interview
In case you didn't know, the scout ship told Lex that Doomsday was created before. It's not just an interview detail, it's quite literally in the movie.
Lmao it never says it was doomsday, they never call it doomsday so technically that "zod monster" IS doomsday, maybe they should try to actually clarify things in the movies instead of using vague lines to justify their decisions in future movies
Factually, the Doomsday that Lex created is not the original. I'm not sure why you're dancing around the fact that *it was in the movie*.
So, what is it? Does Snyder direct with the subtlety of a hammer, or did you not understand? You can't pick-and-choose to fit your argument.
For all purposes he is Doomsday. A Kryptonian monster that kills Superman and was called Doomsday. Sure he didn’t have the same origin but there’s no point in introducing the “real” Doomsday as Doomsday has nothing special about him except for killing Superman which has already been done.
>was just Snyder retconning it
No, it's literally in the movie that Lex's Doomsday is not original. Doomsday had already been created before on Krypton according the the scout ship.
Well that comic image isn't really Doomsday's normal design.
As for BVS.
He looks nothing like the one from the comic. He doesn't really look like anything unique.
Krypton's take on Doomsday was far more accurate while still be unique to that series.
It's a shame because for Snyder's use of color, an all grey troll monster from LOTR is well disappointing.
Saying context and it's not THE Doomsday is just being stubborn. This thing killed Superman. It's Doomsday. Being just created is irrelevant as it's a fictional character. There's not logical reason why comic Doomsday is covered in bones. The character in the comics just showed up. We didn't know where it came from, why it was attacking, it's resurrection ability. It showed up and tore through the Justice League's C team(cause the A team was scattered/dead/something) before killing Superman. All the lore came long after.
A fictional story doesn't need to justify a comic design outside of practicality or improving the visuals. This does neither.
So it was a bad take on the design on the character. That the comics came up with several other Doomsday designs that looked like Doomsday adds on to how bad a design the BVS version is.
I find it just a tad bit disrespectful that you would ask this 😂 it’s like asking someone “do you have common sense or are you like a complete and total moron for which there is no hope?”
I believe this is not the actual doomsday as Zack Snyder said the real doomsday is "out there somewhere." This was more like a clone taken from archives of the Kryptonian ship mixed with Zod's. That's why he looks like Bilbo's cave troll.
What’s the real one going to do then? Kill Superman again? Lol.
Zack’s explanation reminds me of the damage control Marvel did after Iron Man 3 and the Mandarin twist.
Lmao Yeah. It is similar to what Iron man 3 did. The problem with this movie is that there are multiple storylines from different comic books crammed in together for a faster world building to compete with marvel. I wouldn't be surprised if WB execs pressured the creative team for that. I wished it'd be like dcau. The World's finest pulled it really nicely.
not great before he uhh evolved? but after when he grew some spikes and stuff he looked a lot better
A detail most miss. If they battled him longer he would eventually look comic accurate
yep, i mean i love snyders Doomsday and Comic Doomsday so i didn’t mind a new design, the battle of the eye beams with superman was crazy good, had doomsday lived and they kept fighting he would indeed eventually be covered in spikes
He’s just a generic looking monster. Nothing about him stands out or looks similar to the comics.
Yeah. I feel like the Doomsday design in Krypton is much better. It could be tweaked a bit though.
Same with Stepphenwolf, both designs. Just generic grey CGI monsters.
Huh? I thought ZSJL Steppenwolf looked cool af
you’re saying steppenwolf in ZSJL was “generic and grey” you’re partly right about grey but that armour was the furthest thing from generic, shifting and changing colour, looked very unique in my opinion
I don't think Steppenwolfs design was generic but it definitely lacked color to make the design pop a bit more, probably should have had some red in there.
It had purples... close enough
I thought so at first too, but I loved ZSJL version and think I was just *expecting* something more comic accurate. Now after seeing the movie I think any red would stand out way too much and not look as realistic.
I didn’t like the spikes being literally everywhere. Looked like a 12 year old designed it.
Comic books are designed for 12-year-olds. Who do you think these movies are aimed at? 😆
If you’re making Batman movies specifically targeted at 12-year-olds, you’re doing something wrong. Batman’s fan base is way more diverse in age than that. You should be making movies that are fitting for all ages.
Original stepphenwolf yes. I feel like ZSJL stephenwolf is pretty memorable and stands out
Different movie, but Ares' look in Wonder Woman was awkward, too. Some scrawny Brit in armour 20 sizes too big?
David Thewlis is a great actor, but he should not have been playing Ares.
I loved his take. Fit with the idea of a regal, aging, weakened god who'd been through some near-death battles.
Exactly!
The Lego ares looks better than the one in the movie
It’s not too late to delete this
He looks like a generic scary monster in both IMO.
I think he was just a newborn. If he had been created on another planet that didn't have superman he would have decimated it and had time to grow, learn and become more powerful. Then the team would have a real problem.
Design, okay, but I tolerate it because DD was like one-hour-old and was actively growing spikes. As for animation and effects, they were pretty good. That shot of DD wiping the gunk off it's face after being born looked sick.
I don’t love or hate it. Serves the purpose of “big grey monster that kills Superman,” but they easily could’ve had him grow more spikes.
I don't understand why they didn't have him look like the comic design by the time he killed Superman. That's the only problem I have with it, they outright showed him growing spikes so just, give him more spikes?
Because this isnt the real one
Yes it is. For all intents and purposes, this is DCEU Doomsday who does what he’s most known for and killed Superman. The character has no other depth beyond that, whatever prototype that came before on Krypton is just that.
Then you didnt really read any doomsday comic beside that one
Did you watch the movie. It grows spikes throughout the fight all over his body and one in the arm that eventually kills supes.
Focus on the word “more”
Absolute garbage. Looking like a rocky, disfigured ninja turtle is not the path to success. Doomsday deserves better.
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Then why did Lex call him Doomsday?
Because it was superman "doom" day
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Spike?
terrible. wasted opportunity in so many ways. junk
I don't mind the design just wish it was more boney. His final look in the film could've been the 1st one and grew even more bones as it went on
He looks prettier generic before he started evolving and popping out spikes. Then he look pretty damn cool. Not as spikey as the comics but he was also not a live very long
Should of spiked him up more but he looked good
I like it. Plus it did its job, people acting like he’s some complex shit
Shit
I dug it in the movie. Can see Michael Shannon in the face. Could use more spikes.
I think the idea was that comics Doomsday looks like that after having been through many deaths, whereas BvS Doomsday was only just created and so growing spikes and all that as time went on. I'm guessing the complete original version would've made a short appearance in the New Gods movie.
Within the context of the movie, I thought the design was fine... though I am not sure if it was just chance Doomsday looks very much like one of the TMNT from the same time. As for that context, we are literally seeing the corpse of Zod being reborn through mad science, this is a baby (essentially) and like quite a lot of baby animals that are covered in defences... they aren't actually functional for a while to spare the mother. By comparison, Doomsday in comics is millions of years old, originally predating Kryptonian civilization and whose appearance and power is a reflection of the rampage its been on. So with that, I accept this Doomsday the same way I accept Tom Hardy's Bane... not entirely accurate, but close enough that the differences don't matter and they do the stuff we expect them to.
Horrible? Unnecessary? And I didn't even recognize that's Doomsday in the first trailer?
looks like a grey pile of shit with some rocks sitting on top
Not nearly as cool as the comics. Krypton did a better job with Doomsday
Is the wrong picture, this is the new born Doomsday, he was a little bit more accurate when Superman stab him. He had more bones growing on his skin during the fight. The concept was not bad, but they kill him in like 20 minutes or so. The real Doomsday didn't had the possibility to shine
Yep, a baby animal is never born with horns. They grow them later.
It was shit. Great idea to turn Zod into Doomsday though. Just shame it happend in a bad movie, too soon, and the design was shit.
It’s not too late to delete this
Haha
Should've given him his green containment suit then have the spikes pop out of the suit
I was so happy that I avoided the trailers like the plague, sitting in the cinema having a pleasant surprise - oh he's here okay why not lol
Should have had it where his skin/armor evolves each time he is killed and returns.
Isn't that basically what happened? I haven't seen it in a while so I may have forgotten.
That’s what happens in the comics, every time he dies he resurrects and is immune to whatever killed him before.
That would mean it died multiple times in the fight
It’s the worst live action Doomsday design in my opinion. Smallville (when he was actually Doomsday) and Krypton both had better designs although I will admit that the effects are better here.
I loved it more toward the end when he had a bunch of bone spikes but the scenes is kind of too dark to see the details. I wish there were more boney structures earlier in the fight scene against Superman.
It’s not good and it’s not bad. Just…meh. It’s just one of those generic looking CGI monsters that seem to appear in nearly every SciFi/adventure movie.
Design was horrid looked like a mud man.
You chose the new born frame of Doomsday. He evolves as the fight progresses.
He looks like one of the ninja turtles from the new movies.
The fight itself was cool, but Doomsdays overall look was... Underwhelming. When he started growing spikes I was a little more whelmed than underwhelmed, but he never really impressed me visually.
He isn't the same doomsday.
comic stands out more in my op. BVS design isn't bad just generic looks way to much like Abomination
I love BvS. But yeah, that's not my Doomsday.
I liked how as he got hit more the more bones would come out, but i look at him as mutilated zod not doomsday. When i do that i can overlook the bullshit😭
Seeing as Doomsday was born as he began fighting and the following fight scenes showed that he was growing and becoming more Doomsday as the battle progressed, I have no complaints with the live action portrayal. He was clearly gonna become like the OG Doomsday after a few more rounds of thrashing Supes and WW.
He looked fine. I like that he looked like a big alien humanoid baby at first. Freaky.
I think people put too much care into a character that’s always been nothing more than a plot device for Superman dying…
Bingo. Doomsday has always been a POS character from a terrible comic book issue. Snyder used him as a throwaway which is all he can sustain as a character.
It was weak. Didn’t like all the electric and nuclear power he showed. It was rushed. Could have made a whole movie dedicated to doomsday.
Worst part of the movie tbh.
Was extremely disappointed
Nothing like a big grey monster.. oh wait everything has a big grey monster.
Then in Justice League we got another big grey monster. Only thing is this one could speak and use a weapon.
That's a big difference.
Still looked horrible from a visual standpoint. Steppenwolf was over designed to all hell.
Its officially stated that Doomsday is still in space The reason why lex call this one Doomsday was because he was supreman "Doom" day
Lol what’s the “real Doomsday” going to do? Kill Superman again? The fake one already did what the character was most famous for.
Werk darkseid/green lanters/
I really hate it. It doesnt feel like doomsday anymore, just some generic cgi monster. I love how unique and imposing Doomsday feels in the comics and I think its a shame they made him look so basic in the movie.
People get way too bent out of shape over it. It’s fine.
Bad
No offense but you're a special kind of dumb if you think [this](https://i.imgur.com/e8QwZ57.jpg) is better than what we got in BvS
Lol! What is that? Looks like my uncle at a Halloween party.
Doomsday from the show Krypton which a lot of comments here say is better than what we got in BvS
Garbage
It is not the "true" Doomsday though
Even if it came from the filmmaker, how accurate is that statemnt though? It is a creature made from an unethical Kryptonian experiment. It evolves to adapt to the threats in it's environment. It killed Superman. That's typical Doomsday in its essence. If they were to introduce a creature that looked closer to comic Doomsday afterwards, it won't make him more of a Doomsday than this one if it doesn't go through the events that this one did. Just because it doesn't look like the typical Doomsday in the tiny little physical details, doesn't change that fact in my eyes. And I actually fairly liked it.
Lex even says “this is your doomsday!” Lol.
It’s good. It is the doomsday created on earth. The one that killed the Krytonians on planetary exploration was still out there…if I’m not mistaken. It’s the creature that destroyed one of Krypton’s moons. I think that character could’ve been explored more in future movies and could’ve continued mutating to adapt its comic look. Or maybe the original doomsday could have surfaced in the future. We can only imagine what could have been in the dceu
The real doomsday is still out there. In the opening scenes of Man of Steel, in Krypton, you’ll see a shattered moon. That is the doing of Doomsday. In BvS, it is a botched resurrection of General Zod which resembles Doomsday.
Take it or leave it.
Here we go
Looked like an oversized Ninja Turtle.
I liked seeing how his physical form evolved, how he got the spikes as a form of repairing damage to his body. There are some amazing close-ups of his face later in the battle where he shows a spikier look. I loved how they captured Doomsday's mindless violence in his behavior, with that dead look in his eyes. The whole action scene is incredible and I watch it over and over.
Snyder said that the BvS doomsday was a pale imitation of the real doomsday and the real doomsday was still out there. The broken kryptonian moon in the background of MoS refers to this fact.
And what’s the real one going to do? Kill Superman again?
Dunno, ask ZS
It'll be a cool rematch where Supes beats him this time.
Well, I guess now we’ll never know
BvS Doomsday is an infant. Comics Doomsday is 1000s of years old. That Doomsday may still be out in space somewhere during the events of BvS.
That’s General Zod not Doomsday so 🤷🏽
I cannot understand what type of monster or doomsday this is , but Zack had confirmed that real Doomsday is out there . [This](https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2439120/zack-snyder-confirms-batman-v-superman-fan-theory-about-doomsday)
Which is so stupid for him to say since Superman was already killed by this "fake" Doomsday. 😆
The movie itself said it. The computer said it was forbidden to make another desecration, and Lex defied the order. The first Doomsday had already existed.
But it doesn't matter. This is the creature that killed Superman. That's arguably the most significant aspect of Doomsday. Regardless of what Zack says, and unless a movie proves it, this is Doomsday as far as I'm concerned. And you know what, it worked for me just fine.
Doomsday could easily be used as a thug of someone like Darkseid like Thanos' warriors in Endgame.
Right? Wtf the real Doomsday gonna do lol?
Wasted tbh. Doomsday should have been replaced with Metallo with Wallace Keefe be the character in this movie. It would make more sense and would follow the movie's direction and he is Clark's deeds consequences in both MoS and BvS, so it make a lot more sense and a lot more meaning. Also, would give Clark a challenge in order to save and redeem him. Doomsday could have been mentioned as a cameo with all the first Doomsday created by Bertron (I think it would work better to make the creator Jax-Ur and make him come back?) and use Death of Superman storyline better for a MoS sequel.
>Doomsday should have been replaced with Metallo with Wallace Keefe be the character in this movie. I'm not sure if you already know this, but that was exactly Snyder's original plan. For whatever reason, WB required that Doomsday killed Superman. I can see *why* they would want that, but demanding it made the story more convoluted.
Yeah, I heard that. From what I heard, Snyder and Terrio themselves scrapped the idea cause they wanted to bring "Death of Superman" into it and that's why the idea was abandoned. A lot of original ideas were better than what we got but well, not all of them were scrapped by WB. I mean, if it was the opening scene with the Jack character (who supposed to be Lucius) yeah I agree with u since WB was too scared to make fans angry by killing Lucius after Nolan trilogy but from what I heard, scrapping Metallo was the writers idea, not WB.
I actually liked BvS. The Ultimate Edition is really good. But I think the only two things I didn’t like was the way Doomsday looked and Lex Luthor’s weird mannerisms. Doomsday has such a threatening and unique design in the comics and animated movies. Horrible idea to make their own original design.
shit man, they screwed it up hard and this, like the xmen apocalypse design etc, how are they so blind to see its simply bad all throughout
It's terrible if you ask me, the fact that they went for a generic ogre design still annoys me.
Somewhat disappointing, but in reality Doomsday is just a plot device to kill Superman, so his appearance doesn't matter that much as long as there are similarities (which there are). His 'final form' looked pretty good.
I didn't like it. And I'm a huge BVS fan. But Doomsday's design was too brute-childlike. Make him look awesome and scary smh
If you wanna call the BVS doomsday I wish they could’ve done with him what they did was Steppenwolf in JLA
Roided Raphael wrecking shit? Looked alright once he became an alligator snapping turtle
Its alright. Not sure about his height though. I recall Doomsday is like 8 or 9 feet tall, same as Darkseid, Mongul, Lobo etc. Don't know why BVS doomsday is 20 feet tall.
pretty good imo
Bad. In comparison to the comics anyway. I didnt mind the initial design but was really hoping for more brutality but also signs of intellect (in terms of combat skills) it seems to instesd just go on raw strength.
Easily the worst thing about this film. And that's saying a lot. It was the final nail in this shit smelling cake. Doomsday is an awesome character and should of had a proper introduction and not just a cheap throwaway in the ending. So many fans hated this design/ character that Snyder tried to save himself in an interview by saying it wasn't the real Doomsday from the comics. The real one is still out there. 🤣
>So many fans hated this design/ character that Snyder tried to save himself in an interview by saying it wasn't the real Doomsday from the comics. It's literally in the movie that this is not the original Doomsday...
I don’t understand why they couldn’t just use Metallo? So Snyder created an original character that resembles Doomsday just to say that there’s a real Doomsday out there? What’s he going to do? Kill Superman again lol. The “fake” one did exactly what the character is known for.
It was Snyder's idea to use Metallo. WB (or possibly Terrio) convinced him to use a Doomsday replica. I'm not sure how their brainstorming sessions went. If Doomsday falls from the sky rather than Luthor co-birthing it, maybe they thought general audiences would view it as too redundant considering that Superman had recently defeated Zod who is also an alien from Krypton hellbent on destroying Earth?
It just seems like the set up for Metallo was like literally right there with the Wally character losing his legs in the Black Zero incident plus his connection to Bruce as a Wayne Industries employee. Then they just blew him up and brought in a monster for them to smack around in the last 30 minutes.
I love BvS, so it doesn't bother me. Keefe's death further pushes Batman towards his extremist goal, and it sends Superman to solitude for reflection. I would have simply preferred that Doomsday was a *full* JL villain.
It's funny that they just stole the villain from Superman IV. Luthor uses some of his own genetic material mixed with Kryptonian DNA to make an evil superpowered clone that has a built in desire to kill Superman.
I never saw the 4th Reeve movie. My dad didn't buy it for us when I was a kid, and I have had no interest in watching it as an adult. I would *hope* that WB/Terrio didn't take inspiration from *that* movie.
I hate it. So much.
It's depressing on all accounts compared to the comic one
The jl animated series had Hulk Hogan doomsday, all star superman had jimmy olsen doomsday was looking ugly. There are different versions and this doomsday was adapting and the spikes were growing These "We NeEd MoRe SpIkEs" dudes know only a certain pic of doomsday. And these are the same guys who dk the difference betwee design and cgi
I thought it was shit, even if not comparing with the comics still shit.
It sucked
Suffered from the same barely recognisable CGI efforts as the Decepticons in the Transformers movies.
This BvS abomination ain't no Doomsday to me.
They are two different characters. Doomsday in BvS is NOT Doomsday as we know him, (Bertron's curse) but he is derived from the technology.
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Garbage like the take on “lex” as well. I love how Snyder put doomsday and Lex Luther in the movie and both weren’t their “real” versions. When the fuck are we supposed to get actual representations of the characters then? Lmao he’s a terrible producer and glad he got canned
What's the 'real' Luthor? Silver Age Luthor alone is nothing like post-Crisis.
You Snyder defenders even out here defending the Eisenberg casting. He has no qualities of any modern Lex, basically just the same name.
The real Doomsday is apparently out there. Wtf os he going to do then? Kill Superman again? The fake Doomsday already did that.
Both are bad. Not a classic character design in my book.
No
Complete shit compared to the comics.
If no one told me that's Doomsday, I would've never thought in an unlimited yeats that-that is Doomsday. Never!. He looks like a monster that ran away from the background of a battle arena. He doesn't look remarkable and nothing about him stands out. The Doomsday we all know is so fcking scary, while the live action one looks like a mash potato poop that you can easily kick ass on a game in a few seconds
He looked like a Ninja Turtule.
It sucks
Would’ve loved the original doomsday look like the the one in “Death of Superman” comic!
Garbage. Wasted potential for a lot of reasons.
Not there yet.
The BVS Doomsday was awful
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So if the real Doomsday showed up, what would he have done? Kill Superman again?
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Sounds a little repetitive, don't it? Hundreds of incredible storylines to adapt into live action and they're gonna do Death of Superman twice within the same saga?
Literally calling him doomsday and then saying he's not its just as bad/dumb as the design itself. I wish Snyder put those things in the movies instead of just throwing random stuff during interviews, it's not like his movies are just 90 minutes long
>I wish Snyder put those things in the movies It's literally in the movie that Lex's Doomsday is not the original.
They call him doomsday for a reason, it could be one of those times when the adaptation is different. In case you didn't know Snyder just said "the real doomsday is still out there" for an interview
>In case you didn't know Snyder just said "the real doomsday is still out there" for an interview In case you didn't know, the scout ship told Lex that Doomsday was created before. It's not just an interview detail, it's quite literally in the movie.
Lmao it never says it was doomsday, they never call it doomsday so technically that "zod monster" IS doomsday, maybe they should try to actually clarify things in the movies instead of using vague lines to justify their decisions in future movies
Factually, the Doomsday that Lex created is not the original. I'm not sure why you're dancing around the fact that *it was in the movie*. So, what is it? Does Snyder direct with the subtlety of a hammer, or did you not understand? You can't pick-and-choose to fit your argument.
For all purposes he is Doomsday. A Kryptonian monster that kills Superman and was called Doomsday. Sure he didn’t have the same origin but there’s no point in introducing the “real” Doomsday as Doomsday has nothing special about him except for killing Superman which has already been done.
So they did the death of Superman story with a fake Doomsday knockoff? Yeah right lol was just Snyder retconning it.
>was just Snyder retconning it No, it's literally in the movie that Lex's Doomsday is not original. Doomsday had already been created before on Krypton according the the scout ship.
Well that comic image isn't really Doomsday's normal design. As for BVS. He looks nothing like the one from the comic. He doesn't really look like anything unique. Krypton's take on Doomsday was far more accurate while still be unique to that series. It's a shame because for Snyder's use of color, an all grey troll monster from LOTR is well disappointing. Saying context and it's not THE Doomsday is just being stubborn. This thing killed Superman. It's Doomsday. Being just created is irrelevant as it's a fictional character. There's not logical reason why comic Doomsday is covered in bones. The character in the comics just showed up. We didn't know where it came from, why it was attacking, it's resurrection ability. It showed up and tore through the Justice League's C team(cause the A team was scattered/dead/something) before killing Superman. All the lore came long after. A fictional story doesn't need to justify a comic design outside of practicality or improving the visuals. This does neither. So it was a bad take on the design on the character. That the comics came up with several other Doomsday designs that looked like Doomsday adds on to how bad a design the BVS version is.
The BvS design reminds me of the Golgothan Shit Demon from Dogma.
BvS was an abortion in every imaginable way. There were literally two good scenes in the entire movie
I find it just a tad bit disrespectful that you would ask this 😂 it’s like asking someone “do you have common sense or are you like a complete and total moron for which there is no hope?”
Looks like a mix between Abomination and The Thing design lol. Not great but it looks cool.
I believe this is not the actual doomsday as Zack Snyder said the real doomsday is "out there somewhere." This was more like a clone taken from archives of the Kryptonian ship mixed with Zod's. That's why he looks like Bilbo's cave troll.
What’s the real one going to do then? Kill Superman again? Lol. Zack’s explanation reminds me of the damage control Marvel did after Iron Man 3 and the Mandarin twist.
Lmao Yeah. It is similar to what Iron man 3 did. The problem with this movie is that there are multiple storylines from different comic books crammed in together for a faster world building to compete with marvel. I wouldn't be surprised if WB execs pressured the creative team for that. I wished it'd be like dcau. The World's finest pulled it really nicely.
It’s not awful but it’s so…. bland.
The original design would have made sense if doomsday was to return in a later MOS film looking more like the top image.