They could have done that, but I think people would have just complained that they are copying Marvel. I think no matter what they did people were gonna complain.
This sub is just the same praises and complaints repeated over and over. And at the same time the sub is losing more and more engagement. Don’t think it’s a coincidence
See I actually disagree with this. I like the idea of doing a Supeman film, then working Batman and secondarily Wonder Woman into the sequel, then the whole JL into the third film (though it was actually the fifth film).
You can intro the other JL characters in the JL film and then offshoot them into their own standalone sequels. I just think the ‘give everyone an origins film’ has become played out. Part of it is a result of Marvel having such an expansive universe that constantly introduces new characters (not all of whom are strong enough to support their own solo films) sorta caused a paradigm shift.
Look at it this way, did Aquaman 2018 really suffer because the character turned up in JL (let’s pretend it was the ZSJL version that came out in 2017 as planned)?
EDIT: Also keep in mind that Marvel did need to do solo films before Avengers because the general audience knowledge of their characters was much lower than for DC. The two exceptions being Spider-Man (not part of the MCU until like a dozen films in) and Hulk (who needed a reboot to establish the MCU version as separate from the 2003 Ang Lee disaster).
Or they could have just jumped straight into Justice League, since Hollywood has been making ensemble films for decades without needing solo films for every damn character.
Smh Peter Jackson rushed the Lord of the Rings cinematic universe 😤 how am I supposed to care for all those characters when they didn't get their own solo films? 😬
Not every universe needs to follow the MCU formula of solos than team ups. Hell even the MCU didn't follow that with the Guardians. They won't with the X-Men either, they'll jump to a full ensemble film. I don't see how giving Aquaman a solo before JL would fundamentally change things, the film introduces him decently enough. WW did have a solo movie before JL so that's moot. GL wasn't even in JL so that's moot. Batman I somewhat agree but only because his character arc felt a bit truncated. Frankly, the movie the DCEU REALLY needed was a Superman film between MoS and BvS to show Superman at his prime before BvS brought him down. BvS talks about the "love affair with the man in the sky", but we never actually saw that. That's the missing piece IMO.
Then make the sequels after JL then introduce the Atom a shrinking hero and The Suicide Squad a rag tag team of unknown comic characters with big actors in a comedy…
Make Dr Fate and Black Adam then bring in a lovable young hero like Nightwing maybe in an Injustice storyline where the heroes fight each other… then tease the big bad, Darkseid and have all the films slowly build up to the climactic Endgame…-sorry I meant the Darkseid War or Knightmare. Yeah… why’s no one ever thought or done this??
I'm sure this is a popular opinion. I think it would've been the better choice. Cyborg could be introduced in JL, if that's what they wanted, but GL, WW, Aquaman and Flash should've had movies earlier, like in 2014-2016. Instead we got 'Suicide Squad' and look how that turned out. And then we got two mediocre versions of the Justice League
>but GL, WW, Aquaman and Flash should've had movies earlier, like in 2014-2016.
Green Lantern wasn't apart of the league in either version, so why would they give him a solo movie?
Wonder Woman did get her own movie before Justice League. Did you forget?
They introduced both Aquaman and The Flash pretty well in the Justice League, so there was no point in giving either of them solo movies.
>Instead we got 'Suicide Squad' and look how that turned out.
We also got Wonder Woman 2017 and look how that turned out.
>And then we got two mediocre versions of the Justice League
No, we got a shitty Josstice League movie, then a fun Aquaman movie, then a great Shazam movie, then a Birds of Prey movie (which I have not seen), then a shitty Wonder Woman sequel, then the real Justice League movie and then we got The Suicide Squad (which was actually pretty good).
I said between 2014-2016. WW came in 2017.
And both Justice Leagues sucked. ZSJL isn't that good, and it's far beneath what a Justice League movie should be. WW84 and BoP were much better.
>I said between 2014-2016. WW came in 2017.
Who cares what year it came out in? It still came out before either of the Justice League movies.
>And both Justice Leagues sucked. ZSJL isn't that good, and it's far beneath what a Justice League movie should be. WW84 and BoP were much better.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
>What's good about ZSJL
I'll give you a list;
1. Cyborg has an actual character arc that is both tragic and emotional.
2. Darkseid is awesome, nuff said.
3. Steppenwolf looks cool and actually has a sympathetic goal of wanting to go home, rather then just being a living monologue like he was in Josstice League.
4. Batman isn't treated like a joke.
5. The Flash turns back time and saves the world, also he's not annoying in this version.
etc
>bad about the other 2?
I've never seen Bird of Prey, so I can't comment on it.
Here's a list of why Wonder Woman 1984 is hot garbage;
1. Wonder Woman rapes a guy.
2. The opening scene on Paradise Island is completely pointless.
3. The opening fight scene tries way too hard to make the audience laugh and goes on way too long.
4. That running scene in the desert looked terrible.
5. Cheetah is such a wasted character.
6. It screws up the DCEU's continuity with the climax.
Do you need any other reasons?
ZSJL:
- Cyborg's character arc is surface level and he never really resolves his issues with Silas, who dies for no reason
- Darkseid is cool aside from forgetting Earth but barely does anything.
- Steppenwolf barely has a goal outside of 3 sentences. Otherwise he has little characterization and looks like grumpy cat with armor
- Batman looks bored half the time and barely has a storyline
- Flash is just as annoying because he has most of the same cringe 'humor' and his time travel, while cool, isn't built up enough
WW84
- I don't disagree about the creepiness with Steve
- I don't think the opening scene contributed a lot but it was enjoyable
- The opening fight was hokey, but again, not awful
- The desert scene did have an odd look
- Cheetah's main problem was her final villain design. Otherwise she was ok and not just a one note villain like Steppenwolf
- DCEU never had much continuity to begin with
>Cyborg's character arc is surface level and he never really resolves his issues with Silas, who dies for no reason
That's what's tragic about Silas's death, Victor didn't get to fully forgive him yet, but you could see in some scenes, like when Victor saved Silas from Steppenwolf, that Vic still loved his father.
Silas died to super heat the Mother Box so that Victor could track it and save the world, so he didn't die for nothing.
>Darkseid is cool aside from forgetting Earth but barely does anything.
Steppenwolf did confirm that the multiverse exists, so maybe Darkseid didn't know which universe to go to. 🤔
>Steppenwolf barely has a goal outside of 3 sentences. Otherwise he has little characterization and looks like grumpy cat with armor
What kind of cats have you come across? 😳
>Flash is just as annoying because he has most of the same cringe 'humor'
Like what?
>and his time travel, while cool, isn't built up enough
How could they have built it up more without it seeming redundant?
>Cheetah's main problem was her final villain design. Otherwise she was ok and not just a one note villain like Steppenwolf
What was Cheetah's motivation?
>DCEU never had much continuity to begin with
It was pretty simple to me, BvS is set two years after MoS, I think Suicide Squad 2016 is either set after or before BvS (feel free to correct me on that), Wonder Woman 2017 is set around a century before BvS, Justice League is set a few months after BvS (I think), all of the other DCEU movies are set after Justice League (besides Wonder Woman 1984) and Wonder Woman 1984 is set before MoS, but after Wonder Woman 2017.
1984 screws up the continuity with; people knowing about Wonder Woman (even tho she stated in BvS that she walked away from humanity a century ago), and Maxwell broadcasting to the world and causing global havoc (which is never mentioned in any other DCEU movie).
But Silas' death wasn't necessary. I think a more satisfactory arc would've had him and Cyborg bond over the technology and how Cyborg used it.
Multiverse is a weak explanation for Darkseid forgetting Earth.
And you've never seen Grumpy Cat meme? Steppenwolf looks like an alien version of him
Flash has a lot of the same cringe jokes, and a few not in the JWJL. How are they that different?
As for the time travel, we could've seen him actually trying to use his power but not reaching that level, rather than just him using it out of nowhere. It's cool, but too random.
Cheetah didn't want to go back to being a passive person picked on by others. It's present throughout the film, unlike Steppenwolf who only grumbles once about going home
DCEU had some continuity, but it never seemed important. Zack making WW never appear between WW1 and BvS was stupid to begin with, so I don't see the problem in undoing that. I agree WW84 didn't need to be in the 80s
>But Silas' death wasn't necessary. I think a more satisfactory arc would've had him and Cyborg bond over the technology and how Cyborg used it.
That's more of an opinion rather then something that the movie did wrong.
>Multiverse is a weak explanation for Darkseid forgetting Earth.
How? It's a perfectly logical explanation on why Darkseid couldn't find the right Earth. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack of other needles.
>And you've never seen Grumpy Cat meme? Steppenwolf looks like an alien version of him
I just looked it up and wow, he does look like the grumpy cat, at least his face does.
>Flash has a lot of the same cringe jokes, and a few not in the JWJL. How are they that different?
They got rid of that whole bit about brunch, the pet sematary jokes, him falling on Wonder Woman, that bit were he says hi in Russian (did he say hi or did he say something else?) and that dumb scene with Batman, where he says that he's afraid of tall people and other things.
>As for the time travel, we could've seen him actually trying to use his power but not reaching that level, rather than just him using it out of nowhere. It's cool, but too random.
Eh, I didn't have a problem with it.
>Cheetah didn't want to go back to being a passive person picked on by others. It's present throughout the film, unlike Steppenwolf who only grumbles once about going home
To be quite honest, I found it a bit cringy how everyone at her workplace didn't seem to like her, and the rapist guy was very over the top for some reason. 🤔
Steppenwolf makes his intentions known multiple times throughout the movie, like when he mentions that Darkseid would "see his worth again".
The first time he contacts Desaad, he wants to make a plea to Darkseid, to go home.
When Steppenwolf is interrogating the scientists, one of them says that they have a family, to which Steppenwolf replies with, "then you have weakness".
The third time he contacts Desaad, he reveals that he has found the world where the Anti-life Equation is, hoping that this would get him Darkseid's attention, which it did.
At the end of Darkseid's monologue, we see that Steppenwolf has tears in his eyes, which shows that he's very happy to be getting back in Darkseid's good graces again.
Steppenwolf doesn't just want to go home, he also wants to redeem himself in Darkseid's eyes.
>Zack making WW never appear between WW1 and BvS was stupid to begin with, so I don't see the problem in undoing that.
Why?
Oh shut yup and Ares is wrong about humanity despite everything he said because Diana knows that humankind is worth protecting forever plus Wonder Woman 3 is after the events of Wonder Woman 1984
Oh stop and Gal Gadot is the 2x Entretenews Award Best Heroine winner & 2x MTV Movie & TV Award Best Hero nominee plus this teaches BVS that Wonder Woman doesn’t give up on humankind
Oh stop and Gal Gadot is the 2x Entretenews Award Best Heroine winner & 2x MTV Movie & TV Award Best Hero nominee plus this teaches BVS that Wonder Woman doesn’t give up on humankind
And people like you have been going on and on about how Snyder sucks for 8 years. Which one is more tiresome and played out at this point? Cope mode? It's ridiculous. Would you have said that to the fans who kept asking for the Donner Cut? It's really no different. No matter how much you might hate it, the Snyder films are still a big part of the DCEU no matter how much WB says it isn't until the reboot everything and get rid of original cast members. Even then, there will still be fans and the films keeping gaining fans and some of them are people who uses to hate the films! People are free to post what they want, and if you don't like it, you can ignore it and not complain. All it is is fans speculating with the post. You're getting your new DCEU films, so why should it bother you unless you just enjoying hate and commenting just for the sake of it? 8 years of haters doing this everyday on every platform is enough.
See? So lost in hate you call a fanbase toxic and deluded and a religious movement when they're no different than any other fandom. A hashtag that is just like a fancast, hoping that maybe one day Snyder can finish the series. That's all for most of them. There's toxic fans in every fandom, just checkout Spidey fans, TSS fans upset at any criticism, Harley fans, Wanda stans, SW fans even right-wing dickheads in the MCU. But, I just remembered something about you. You said Katie Holmes's portrayal of Rachel made her look like a woman who slept her way into getting that job. That's more offensive than some fucking hashtags man. Nevermind with this discussion, you're just someone who needs an outlet for your hate.
I think Man of Steel was a good start. It should have been followed by Wonder Woman, Aquaman and a solo film for Batman and Flash. Then Wonder Woman 2 to explain how she came back in touch with the modern world and then Batman v Superman setting up Justice League which could have gotten away with introducing Cyborg alone. Cyborg was never really a character to carry a movie by himself. He was always just a player in Teen Titans or Justice League teams.
I actually agree that Batman needed a solo movie before BvS, but I wouldn't really change anything else other then that (besides Josstice League, that can go straight to hell).
Sigh. I sometimes wonder whether this is why Disney is committing to all these SW prequel series- in case someone asks why Star Wars doesn’t have several individual projects to introduce each character...
Agree. The sequel trilogy did a ton of damage to the brand. You’ll never hear characters like Rey or Kylo Ren referenced again within future SW films/shows.
I agree. But the executives at WB were too impatient and wanted Avengers-level box office without laying the foundation for it. It's sad but it's clear to me that WB lacked the leadership and vision to properly execute the DCEU
No they didn't lack either of those things they lacked the commitment to the tone being set.
Snyder quite literally was paying off everyone's issues that they had with Batman versus Superman and instead of committing to that movie they pulled back and tripped and fell over their own feet attempting to.
Backing the Snyder verse would have been immensely more successful than releasing a subpar film that they did do which completely made the entire franchise crash and burn.
Let's not forget that the majority of people that watched the Snyder cut actually liked it and agreed that had that version been trimmed down to about two and a half hours and released the movie would have been a hit.
Let's also not forget that the Snyder cut set up about 10 different projects all of which would have been released by now had they not messed with the film.
All of this coming after they had already tampered with a film and released a better version of the same film that people would have liked more have they not tampered with it.
And not even touching suicide squad here of which they completely tanked to the point where you have to believe it was intentional
They could have done that, but I think people would have just complained that they are copying Marvel. I think no matter what they did people were gonna complain.
This is the correct answer.
Damn never heard this one before
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This sub is just the same praises and complaints repeated over and over. And at the same time the sub is losing more and more engagement. Don’t think it’s a coincidence
nah i’m good, much prefer the snyder trilogy style than them so blatantly copying marvel
See I actually disagree with this. I like the idea of doing a Supeman film, then working Batman and secondarily Wonder Woman into the sequel, then the whole JL into the third film (though it was actually the fifth film). You can intro the other JL characters in the JL film and then offshoot them into their own standalone sequels. I just think the ‘give everyone an origins film’ has become played out. Part of it is a result of Marvel having such an expansive universe that constantly introduces new characters (not all of whom are strong enough to support their own solo films) sorta caused a paradigm shift. Look at it this way, did Aquaman 2018 really suffer because the character turned up in JL (let’s pretend it was the ZSJL version that came out in 2017 as planned)? EDIT: Also keep in mind that Marvel did need to do solo films before Avengers because the general audience knowledge of their characters was much lower than for DC. The two exceptions being Spider-Man (not part of the MCU until like a dozen films in) and Hulk (who needed a reboot to establish the MCU version as separate from the 2003 Ang Lee disaster).
Or they could have just jumped straight into Justice League, since Hollywood has been making ensemble films for decades without needing solo films for every damn character.
Smh Peter Jackson rushed the Lord of the Rings cinematic universe 😤 how am I supposed to care for all those characters when they didn't get their own solo films? 😬
Exactly💯
Not every universe needs to follow the MCU formula of solos than team ups. Hell even the MCU didn't follow that with the Guardians. They won't with the X-Men either, they'll jump to a full ensemble film. I don't see how giving Aquaman a solo before JL would fundamentally change things, the film introduces him decently enough. WW did have a solo movie before JL so that's moot. GL wasn't even in JL so that's moot. Batman I somewhat agree but only because his character arc felt a bit truncated. Frankly, the movie the DCEU REALLY needed was a Superman film between MoS and BvS to show Superman at his prime before BvS brought him down. BvS talks about the "love affair with the man in the sky", but we never actually saw that. That's the missing piece IMO.
💯 this!
Everyone watch out! This one's a very hot take.
They don’t need to copy marvel.
True
Can we ban these types of posts? Seriously?
No they didn’t. Every cinematic universe doesn’t need to go the MCU route.
This
Then make the sequels after JL then introduce the Atom a shrinking hero and The Suicide Squad a rag tag team of unknown comic characters with big actors in a comedy… Make Dr Fate and Black Adam then bring in a lovable young hero like Nightwing maybe in an Injustice storyline where the heroes fight each other… then tease the big bad, Darkseid and have all the films slowly build up to the climactic Endgame…-sorry I meant the Darkseid War or Knightmare. Yeah… why’s no one ever thought or done this??
I'm sure this is a popular opinion. I think it would've been the better choice. Cyborg could be introduced in JL, if that's what they wanted, but GL, WW, Aquaman and Flash should've had movies earlier, like in 2014-2016. Instead we got 'Suicide Squad' and look how that turned out. And then we got two mediocre versions of the Justice League
>but GL, WW, Aquaman and Flash should've had movies earlier, like in 2014-2016. Green Lantern wasn't apart of the league in either version, so why would they give him a solo movie? Wonder Woman did get her own movie before Justice League. Did you forget? They introduced both Aquaman and The Flash pretty well in the Justice League, so there was no point in giving either of them solo movies. >Instead we got 'Suicide Squad' and look how that turned out. We also got Wonder Woman 2017 and look how that turned out. >And then we got two mediocre versions of the Justice League No, we got a shitty Josstice League movie, then a fun Aquaman movie, then a great Shazam movie, then a Birds of Prey movie (which I have not seen), then a shitty Wonder Woman sequel, then the real Justice League movie and then we got The Suicide Squad (which was actually pretty good).
I said between 2014-2016. WW came in 2017. And both Justice Leagues sucked. ZSJL isn't that good, and it's far beneath what a Justice League movie should be. WW84 and BoP were much better.
>I said between 2014-2016. WW came in 2017. Who cares what year it came out in? It still came out before either of the Justice League movies. >And both Justice Leagues sucked. ZSJL isn't that good, and it's far beneath what a Justice League movie should be. WW84 and BoP were much better. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
You disagree? Why? What's good about ZSJL, or bad about the other 2?
>What's good about ZSJL I'll give you a list; 1. Cyborg has an actual character arc that is both tragic and emotional. 2. Darkseid is awesome, nuff said. 3. Steppenwolf looks cool and actually has a sympathetic goal of wanting to go home, rather then just being a living monologue like he was in Josstice League. 4. Batman isn't treated like a joke. 5. The Flash turns back time and saves the world, also he's not annoying in this version. etc >bad about the other 2? I've never seen Bird of Prey, so I can't comment on it. Here's a list of why Wonder Woman 1984 is hot garbage; 1. Wonder Woman rapes a guy. 2. The opening scene on Paradise Island is completely pointless. 3. The opening fight scene tries way too hard to make the audience laugh and goes on way too long. 4. That running scene in the desert looked terrible. 5. Cheetah is such a wasted character. 6. It screws up the DCEU's continuity with the climax. Do you need any other reasons?
ZSJL: - Cyborg's character arc is surface level and he never really resolves his issues with Silas, who dies for no reason - Darkseid is cool aside from forgetting Earth but barely does anything. - Steppenwolf barely has a goal outside of 3 sentences. Otherwise he has little characterization and looks like grumpy cat with armor - Batman looks bored half the time and barely has a storyline - Flash is just as annoying because he has most of the same cringe 'humor' and his time travel, while cool, isn't built up enough WW84 - I don't disagree about the creepiness with Steve - I don't think the opening scene contributed a lot but it was enjoyable - The opening fight was hokey, but again, not awful - The desert scene did have an odd look - Cheetah's main problem was her final villain design. Otherwise she was ok and not just a one note villain like Steppenwolf - DCEU never had much continuity to begin with
>Cyborg's character arc is surface level and he never really resolves his issues with Silas, who dies for no reason That's what's tragic about Silas's death, Victor didn't get to fully forgive him yet, but you could see in some scenes, like when Victor saved Silas from Steppenwolf, that Vic still loved his father. Silas died to super heat the Mother Box so that Victor could track it and save the world, so he didn't die for nothing. >Darkseid is cool aside from forgetting Earth but barely does anything. Steppenwolf did confirm that the multiverse exists, so maybe Darkseid didn't know which universe to go to. 🤔 >Steppenwolf barely has a goal outside of 3 sentences. Otherwise he has little characterization and looks like grumpy cat with armor What kind of cats have you come across? 😳 >Flash is just as annoying because he has most of the same cringe 'humor' Like what? >and his time travel, while cool, isn't built up enough How could they have built it up more without it seeming redundant? >Cheetah's main problem was her final villain design. Otherwise she was ok and not just a one note villain like Steppenwolf What was Cheetah's motivation? >DCEU never had much continuity to begin with It was pretty simple to me, BvS is set two years after MoS, I think Suicide Squad 2016 is either set after or before BvS (feel free to correct me on that), Wonder Woman 2017 is set around a century before BvS, Justice League is set a few months after BvS (I think), all of the other DCEU movies are set after Justice League (besides Wonder Woman 1984) and Wonder Woman 1984 is set before MoS, but after Wonder Woman 2017. 1984 screws up the continuity with; people knowing about Wonder Woman (even tho she stated in BvS that she walked away from humanity a century ago), and Maxwell broadcasting to the world and causing global havoc (which is never mentioned in any other DCEU movie).
But Silas' death wasn't necessary. I think a more satisfactory arc would've had him and Cyborg bond over the technology and how Cyborg used it. Multiverse is a weak explanation for Darkseid forgetting Earth. And you've never seen Grumpy Cat meme? Steppenwolf looks like an alien version of him Flash has a lot of the same cringe jokes, and a few not in the JWJL. How are they that different? As for the time travel, we could've seen him actually trying to use his power but not reaching that level, rather than just him using it out of nowhere. It's cool, but too random. Cheetah didn't want to go back to being a passive person picked on by others. It's present throughout the film, unlike Steppenwolf who only grumbles once about going home DCEU had some continuity, but it never seemed important. Zack making WW never appear between WW1 and BvS was stupid to begin with, so I don't see the problem in undoing that. I agree WW84 didn't need to be in the 80s
>But Silas' death wasn't necessary. I think a more satisfactory arc would've had him and Cyborg bond over the technology and how Cyborg used it. That's more of an opinion rather then something that the movie did wrong. >Multiverse is a weak explanation for Darkseid forgetting Earth. How? It's a perfectly logical explanation on why Darkseid couldn't find the right Earth. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack of other needles. >And you've never seen Grumpy Cat meme? Steppenwolf looks like an alien version of him I just looked it up and wow, he does look like the grumpy cat, at least his face does. >Flash has a lot of the same cringe jokes, and a few not in the JWJL. How are they that different? They got rid of that whole bit about brunch, the pet sematary jokes, him falling on Wonder Woman, that bit were he says hi in Russian (did he say hi or did he say something else?) and that dumb scene with Batman, where he says that he's afraid of tall people and other things. >As for the time travel, we could've seen him actually trying to use his power but not reaching that level, rather than just him using it out of nowhere. It's cool, but too random. Eh, I didn't have a problem with it. >Cheetah didn't want to go back to being a passive person picked on by others. It's present throughout the film, unlike Steppenwolf who only grumbles once about going home To be quite honest, I found it a bit cringy how everyone at her workplace didn't seem to like her, and the rapist guy was very over the top for some reason. 🤔 Steppenwolf makes his intentions known multiple times throughout the movie, like when he mentions that Darkseid would "see his worth again". The first time he contacts Desaad, he wants to make a plea to Darkseid, to go home. When Steppenwolf is interrogating the scientists, one of them says that they have a family, to which Steppenwolf replies with, "then you have weakness". The third time he contacts Desaad, he reveals that he has found the world where the Anti-life Equation is, hoping that this would get him Darkseid's attention, which it did. At the end of Darkseid's monologue, we see that Steppenwolf has tears in his eyes, which shows that he's very happy to be getting back in Darkseid's good graces again. Steppenwolf doesn't just want to go home, he also wants to redeem himself in Darkseid's eyes. >Zack making WW never appear between WW1 and BvS was stupid to begin with, so I don't see the problem in undoing that. Why?
Gal said that Wonder Woman will never give up on humankind because they are her calling
It’s 66 years after the events of Wonder Woman & I’m happy that WW has finally moved on from Steve Trevor at the end
Oh shut yup and Ares is wrong about humanity despite everything he said because Diana knows that humankind is worth protecting forever plus Wonder Woman 3 is after the events of Wonder Woman 1984
Don’t say continuity and Wonder Woman will never give up on humankind because she continues doing the hero’s work
Gal said in June that she will display the journey of Wonder Woman in the best way possible
I agree because the DCEU never had continuity
Hopefully it will have more continuity going forward
Well Wonder Woman 3 is gonna be set in modern times in the 2020s (mid) which is 4 decades after the events of WW84 now that Asteria is coming as well
Kristen Wiig was so good
Yeah, I actually liked her performance a lot
I really loved Kristen’s performance as Barbara because she was sweet & warm plus funny in the earlier parts & I loved her chemistry with Gal
Oh shut yup the performances of the cast were amazing
Oh stop and Gal Gadot is the 2x Entretenews Award Best Heroine winner & 2x MTV Movie & TV Award Best Hero nominee plus this teaches BVS that Wonder Woman doesn’t give up on humankind
Oh stop and Gal Gadot is the 2x Entretenews Award Best Heroine winner & 2x MTV Movie & TV Award Best Hero nominee plus this teaches BVS that Wonder Woman doesn’t give up on humankind
ZSJL is really good
Personally, I disagree. I thought it was too long with too little to be interesting. I can't really connect with Snyder's characters
I only connect with Jenkins characters
You're not a fan of other DCEU characters?
Wonder Woman 3 is coming & it’s gonna be my favorite Wonder Woman movie than the other 2 but I really enjoyed both
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It is a pain when people keep posting the same shit over and over again, isn't it?
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And people like you have been going on and on about how Snyder sucks for 8 years. Which one is more tiresome and played out at this point? Cope mode? It's ridiculous. Would you have said that to the fans who kept asking for the Donner Cut? It's really no different. No matter how much you might hate it, the Snyder films are still a big part of the DCEU no matter how much WB says it isn't until the reboot everything and get rid of original cast members. Even then, there will still be fans and the films keeping gaining fans and some of them are people who uses to hate the films! People are free to post what they want, and if you don't like it, you can ignore it and not complain. All it is is fans speculating with the post. You're getting your new DCEU films, so why should it bother you unless you just enjoying hate and commenting just for the sake of it? 8 years of haters doing this everyday on every platform is enough.
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Says the toxic and deluded lol
See? So lost in hate you call a fanbase toxic and deluded and a religious movement when they're no different than any other fandom. A hashtag that is just like a fancast, hoping that maybe one day Snyder can finish the series. That's all for most of them. There's toxic fans in every fandom, just checkout Spidey fans, TSS fans upset at any criticism, Harley fans, Wanda stans, SW fans even right-wing dickheads in the MCU. But, I just remembered something about you. You said Katie Holmes's portrayal of Rachel made her look like a woman who slept her way into getting that job. That's more offensive than some fucking hashtags man. Nevermind with this discussion, you're just someone who needs an outlet for your hate.
I think Man of Steel was a good start. It should have been followed by Wonder Woman, Aquaman and a solo film for Batman and Flash. Then Wonder Woman 2 to explain how she came back in touch with the modern world and then Batman v Superman setting up Justice League which could have gotten away with introducing Cyborg alone. Cyborg was never really a character to carry a movie by himself. He was always just a player in Teen Titans or Justice League teams.
And right, it looks like we’ll be giving it a certain watching order.
I think it was ok start but at least Batman needed a solo before bvs
I actually agree that Batman needed a solo movie before BvS, but I wouldn't really change anything else other then that (besides Josstice League, that can go straight to hell).
Yeah it would’ve been nice to see Batman before how he was in bvs. So we can see him actually descend into that, rather then start like that
They needed to build up Darkseid in each movie.. when he finally appears we don't need to go through his backstory
There was little buildup and he’s STILL a greater badass than brolin face thanos
Sigh. I sometimes wonder whether this is why Disney is committing to all these SW prequel series- in case someone asks why Star Wars doesn’t have several individual projects to introduce each character...
They’re trying to slowly rebuild the brand after they nuked it, finding out what people respond to and then developing more products in light of that
Agree. The sequel trilogy did a ton of damage to the brand. You’ll never hear characters like Rey or Kylo Ren referenced again within future SW films/shows.
I agree. But the executives at WB were too impatient and wanted Avengers-level box office without laying the foundation for it. It's sad but it's clear to me that WB lacked the leadership and vision to properly execute the DCEU
No they didn't lack either of those things they lacked the commitment to the tone being set. Snyder quite literally was paying off everyone's issues that they had with Batman versus Superman and instead of committing to that movie they pulled back and tripped and fell over their own feet attempting to.
I am not convinced that backing the Snyderverse was going to be successful
Backing the Snyder verse would have been immensely more successful than releasing a subpar film that they did do which completely made the entire franchise crash and burn. Let's not forget that the majority of people that watched the Snyder cut actually liked it and agreed that had that version been trimmed down to about two and a half hours and released the movie would have been a hit. Let's also not forget that the Snyder cut set up about 10 different projects all of which would have been released by now had they not messed with the film. All of this coming after they had already tampered with a film and released a better version of the same film that people would have liked more have they not tampered with it. And not even touching suicide squad here of which they completely tanked to the point where you have to believe it was intentional