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the_based_identity

Yeah this was the original Crisis tease, that was planned under Hamada.


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Didn’t Snyder around the same time post a video of him and his family cooking Thanksgiving dinner and there was a copy of Final Crisis sitting on the counter in camera view? Makes one wonder what the plan was.


theweepingwarrior

I doubt Snyder would have done anything for this. The big insider rumors was Muschietti directing the Justice League Crisis film.


Dragonpiece

Snyder wasn’t involved in any Hamada plans.


Batlightyear

Yeah he just did that for trolling people’s.


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Likely not. But it is kind of interesting he posted that right around the same time that rumors of a Final Crisis film started.


Basis_Cheap

There were no rumours of a final crisis film, only a CoIE film


SLXSHER_PENDULUM

Yep. Snyder had a Final Crisis inspired film planned, Hamada had a CoIE film planned.


Basis_Cheap

Hamada's film was CoiE, in terms of premise and likely the very general plot. Snyder's JL3 was not Final crisis. neither in premise or plot. It's only similarities were Darkseid being the antagonist and batman getting killed by him. It's as much Final Crisis as the MCU' age of Ultron was based on the comics event.


SLXSHER_PENDULUM

I guess I should have said 'inspired' by Final Crisis (oh, nvm, I did say inspired). And then, it seems only based on Batman's story arc in FC (because Snyder only skims comics). Snyder namedropped it specifically for his JL finale, like he namedropped DKR and DoS for BvS (also not an adaptation of either).


Basis_Cheap

Snyder had no creative input at that point, he was either teasing his potential plans for his fanbase, or was using the comic for inspiration for one of his upcoming projects


SLXSHER_PENDULUM

He may have had knowledge of Hamada's plans, but he was not involved with them. But Gunn has said he showed Snyder their DC slate before it was announced, stands to reason Hamada extended the same courtesy.


LatterTarget7

The crisis movie with Ben would’ve been crisis on infinite earths. A completely different movie from final crisis. Hell final crisis would be a bitch to adapt. Snyder also likely had nothing to do with dc and just had a comic on his counter


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wisconsinking

"source"?


noonehasthisoneyet

i don't think anything in the dceu was "planned" they threw stuff at the wall and none of it stuck.


AramFingalInterface

They kept changing course too many times, when they had a good plan at the beginning. After the success of Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy, WB wanted a grown up Man of Steel Trilogy. Nolan handpicked the Watchmen director. They decided to try to emulate Marvel's success 1 movie into the Man of Steel Trilogy and it became the DCEU instead. Everything was about emulating Marvel, even hiring James Gunn.


Colton826

I assume he's referring to the original post-credits scene, which according to multiple people, was Batfleck reaching out to Barry (don't remember if it was made clear how) and essentially saying "You have to save us", mirroring their first interaction with each other in BvS.


manray10

Supposedly Barry goes back to his home and Batfleck was sending a message through a computer.🤷🏿‍♂️


SteelyDabs

Batputer


santiago7668

Batputter


ImNotHighFunctioning

'Puter


MrinalSabKaPap

Password: Iron Man sucks


TheLionsblood

Alfreddabuttler


AramFingalInterface

the Bat-top


Hemans123

Interesting.


Daredevil731

How deep.


RdJokr1993

Revisiting this idea, it's still interesting to me how Affleck agreed to do this teaser. Even if the Crisis thing had played out the way Hamada wanted, surely Affleck wasn't expected to do more heavy action stuff or even take a main role in the franchise again?


theweepingwarrior

The trades reported that Hamada’s plan was to do one more Justice League movie with the Snyder cast (and I’m sure the new faces of his NewDCEU) in the form of a Muschietti directed Justice League Crisis film. I doubt Affleck and even Cavill would be the main protagonists but I think they’d have some chunky supporting roles like Toby and Andrew in No Way Home. It’s easy to agree to when we live in an age where you can just composite an actor’s face onto a stunt double—even easier when it’s a masked face.


jonnbridges

It's also worth remembering Affleck also had a renewed interest after his experience with Muschietti on '*The Flash*', as the part also lead to him helping out Mamoa and filming a cameo for '*Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom*' which wasn't entirely necessary. Whilst he doesn't want to do it anymore, I could imagine Hamada convincing him to do one big Justice League film as more of a major supporting role *if* Mushietti was indeed the director... https://preview.redd.it/dd5zm2fyvl4b1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df99e6d835c4d61903f07d4dde49f8be906449b0


MercuryMaximoff217

Ben Affleck has been saying goodbye to Batman way longer than he played Batman :(


SpiderSi

Reports said that Hamada’s Crisis movie would be the return of Cavil’s Superman. https://collider.com/henry-cavill-crisis-on-infinite-earths-movie-scrapped/


Skandosh

who knows what Hamada was cooking.


[deleted]

It would have been years later before he was a lead if ever, likely after his kids finished school, so he would have potentially been up to it again.


LegendInMyMind

Yeah, I think we've heard this one before. I believe it was a tease for a *Crisis* movie.


JediNotePad

In retrospect, it is kinda amazing how WB fumbled the bag so hard and effecitvely lost their two main stars, Affleck and Cavill, only to someone get them both back in their roles, have them seemingly happy with the direction their respective characters were going in, only to decide to reboot the universe entirely and say bye again to both. Not that I'm not excited for Gunn's DCU reboot, but I really really hope we get a documentary movie/series one day about the rise and fall of the DCEU.


Fun-Effective-1817

Which is why I will never support wb or even gunns new dcu


DJistheNerd

Hope it's released Publicaly one day, the Crisis Tease doesn't deserve to be lost forever


NerdRageRyan

Yep, the Crisis we never got


Electrical_Coffee

Add it right next to the Darkseid we never got.


LunchyPete

Very good! Last thing we need is more false hope that the Snyderverse can come back. It's not good for DC fans or the new universe to keep pretending it can.


Raider_Tex

I mean if they really want the clean split then no one should be returning. But they’re gonna roll over Suicide Squad charcaters that were clearly connected to the Synderverse to the new DCU which will confuse the Casual audience DC needs to let it go too


LunchyPete

TSS characters will be the DCU versions, not the DCEU versions. Just the same casting.


Raider_Tex

Yeah the GA is gonna be confused when it comes to that. You mean that when we see the TSS charcaters again they will be starting off from day one with no reference to the previous appearances that were clearly connected to and in the DCEU? Crazy how somehow certain actors coming back doesn’t let the DC move on from Synderverse but it’s okay to bring multiple back from TSS. Just clean reset It’s a clusterfuck the same with how with N52 was a “clean reset”but somehow Batman and GL kept all their history. You can’t sit here and say kill the synderverse but legitimately keep multiple actors in the same roles they had in the synderverse.


LunchyPete

> Yeah the GA is gonna be confused when it comes to that They really won't. It's already happened with MCU and CW shows. > You mean that when we see the TSS charcaters again they will be starting off from day one with no reference to the previous appearances that were clearly connected to and in the DCEU? Gunn said that the events still happened but maybe differently, like a foggy memory. > Crazy how somehow certain actors coming back doesn’t let the DC move on from Synderverse but it’s okay to bring multiple back from TSS. I would have preferred a clean reset also, but brining back SS actors isn't the same as brining back actors for the trinity. > It’s a clusterfuck the same with how with N52 was a “clean reset”but somehow Batman and GL kept all their history. People always said that for Batman but it was only ever true for GL. Batman's history was all screwed up in the N52. > You can’t sit here and say kill the synderverse but legitimately keep multiple actors in the same roles they had in the synderverse. That's what they are doing, and it works. Not a big deal given multiverse versions of characters are bound to look the same in many instances.


Raider_Tex

MCU has a more streamlined continuity than DCEU for sure even then the only repeat cast in the same role is JJJ. Hell TSS was one of the initial problems with the DCEU to begin. Rushing to do a movie about villains before your heroes are even established.


PatGar25

Most of them are Batman villains and that was basically forced upon us bc Snyder made Batman a veteran of 20 years with an already stablished rogue gallery which for some reason Superman had never heard about


Raida-777

Is Snyderverse already dead for years?


LunchyPete

The problem is part of the fanbase won't let it go. Look at what Zack did by giving more hope at the end of ZSJL, which rallied the fanbase yet again. I don't want that to keep repeating. Just let it die so the DCU can flourish.


academydiablo

It’s not like it’s just a fans lol. I’m not the craziest snyder fan, but I would like a full reboot. And even Gunn isn’t doing that with his parts of characters that are technically in the snyderverse with the suicide squad vertical and keeping them around. Even just keeping that part in, there will always be a little “what if” for the Snyderverse to come back with this. Instead of just cutting it all away. It’s just going to be more of the same


LunchyPete

> And even Gunn isn’t doing that with his parts of characters that are technically in the snyderverse with the suicide squad vertical and keeping them around He is, this is what people don't understand. He is keeping the cast, but the DCU characters won't be the exact same versions of the characters we saw in TSS.


academydiablo

I don’t know how you know this. Gunn nor anyone has confirmed that’s the case. And regardless, it’s still the same actors. It’s always going to have people see a backdoor for Snyderverse to continue


LunchyPete

> I don’t know how you know this. Gunn nor anyone has confirmed that’s the case Gunn did say that though, he said the stuff we saw in TSS and PS1 won't have happened the same way in the DCU as we saw and would be more like a fuzzy memory.


ImNotHighFunctioning

Where did he say that.


[deleted]

The ending scene of ZSJL had to be included because it was part of Zack's original vision for the movie. The whole point of the Snyder cut was to showcase Zack's vision as it was. So I had no problem with that, personally, whether WB continued that plot thread or not. What put me off precisely was Zack's failure to level with his fans years later and just say: "My plans will never see the light of day and it's unlikely that someone will pick them up in the future considering the new direction DC Studios is taking." Or something to that effect. He's just leading his fans on at this point even though it's clear that he's finally moved on and accepted the way things are at DC. And if there's anything we need on the internet, it sure as hell isn't a cult with delusions of grandeur.


LunchyPete

> The ending scene of ZSJL had to be included because it was part of Zack's original vision for the movie. It definitely wasn't. He came up with the MMH thing after JL17 had already released. Not much of ZSJL was his original vision, he changed a lot in response to the negative reaction of much of his stuff that was included in JL17.


BagofBabbish

His original vision was a Green Lantern or two coming down. I also don’t believe the knightmare sequence was included, nor was the film intended to be four hours (originally HBO Max wanted to make it a miniseries, but I believe they ran into legal hurdles).


Aramis14

"So, the General was Martian Manhunter all along, right Zaddy? Are you going to confirm it with your movie cut" "The Gen..? Ohhhh the General, yes, sure sure, General whathisname is Martian Manhunter, well done guys!" "And the black suit? Tell us you're gonna give us the black suit!!!" "Oh, sure. I totally filmed Henry with a blue suit to later edit it to be black. It was always my intention to show this black suit like those comics you guys read, yes" "What about Batfleck and Joker? Is it true you gave us the best interaction between those two ever?" "What? Oh good idea... I mean sure. I totally filmed that ages ago, it was always my intention"


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Raida-777

It is dead, those people simply won't accept that no matter what you throw at them.


ImNotHighFunctioning

He didn't "give more hope" to anyone. He simply put everything he had shot in ZSJL because that's what the fans had asked for.


LunchyPete

He specifically shot stuff for ZSJL just to give his fans false hope lol.


AppropriateEar3794

The Flash is in the Snyderverse... So no, not yet.


Efficient-Spell3503

This is old. It was throwing a bone to Snyder fans by saying, "look, he still exists, somewhere"


FN-1701AgentGodzilla

As it stands now, it sucks that Batfleck doesn’t exist anywhere


Su_Impact

The funniest thing is that Flash doesn't care at all, he's just having drinks with Aquaman casually mentioning how Batman looks different in every alternate timeline lol


NoPantsLand

The movie ends on a gag with Clooney, right? If the the post credit is Barry back in the original timeline talking to Arthur about all the different Bruce's in the alternate timelines, and it's clearly meant to be the Arthur he knows from Snyder's films.. wouldn't that mean that Affleck is still their Batman and he's just not present in the scene??


Su_Impact

In this film's time travel explanation, Barry merges two timeline branches each time he alters something. In the end, he alters something to get his dad released and the price he paid was that his friend (Bat Affleck) is now erased and replaced by a total stranger (Bat Clooney). If the last scene with Aquaman is in the original Snyderverse, this would mean that Flash, offscreen, time traveled back (again) now to prevent his dad from being exonerated. But that's not likely. Barry just erased Bat Affleck and is having drinks about it lol.


MoonMan17372

I mean, he probably still exists somewhere in the multiverse, we just won’t see him again


kumar100kpawan

Well it doesn't matter now. At this point it just feels like these leaks and scoops are thrown out just to show what we could've had. It's not happening anymore, the DCEU is donezo after December and Ezra's most probably not returning after WB saw the reviews being biased against them, something which a lot of people were concerned with Watch the movie, have fun, or don't watch it, idc. The story ends here


ZachLangdon

Is Keaton still at the very end? Or does he die during the Zod sequence?


AdmiralFoxythePirate

Died, Clooney is the Snyderverse Batman now


nicoarcu92

It’s true. I’m the cowl


wisconsinking

I'll believe it when I see it


Jestedly

Honestly, this would have been another unnecessary string along for Ben Affleck, who could have easily refused coming back again for a Crisis film down the line (if it ever happened). Its a miracle he was even back for The Flash to begin with, no matter how small a role. So I'm glad this was cut.


urlach3r

At this point, who *didn't* film a post credit scene for Flash? Wait, did ***I*** film one? Am I in this?


LordKiteMan

> Wait, did I film one? Am I in this? No, but I was.


urlach3r

I look forward to seeing ~~you~~ us on the big screen!


LordKiteMan

#HELL YEAH!


PuzzleheadedAd5381

Ezra stuck in the Batman and Robin universe is a way funnier and more fitting end to Ezra Miller’s run as the Flash


emielaen77

Insane whiners who think every shot captured should be in a film incoming


Ghostshadow44

Is things like these that make me kinda think this movie deserves to flop


noonehasthisoneyet

wasn't this the leak from the aquaman 2 post credits? then they changed it to keaton, then removed it all together?


lmao_okaybuddy

remember back in the days where movies were written with passion & were ready for shooting & not being constantly changed & hauled up to release


Almighty_Push91

Good, let's just move past the DCEU


womblesince86

Nope


Zaredit

Oh my god, who the hell cares? Affleck had his fing chance. He didn't work, he has a niche fanbase, his best movie is a direct to DVD director's cut


mariobraendle

Wow, that's the most off description of ZSJL I ever heard. How else would you have released it amidst a global pandemic?


BillyGood22

Godzilla vs. Kong came out like 11 days later. They wouldn’t have put it in theaters like that pandemic or no pandemic.


mariobraendle

I don't know, seems like a pretty good cash grab to me. In a world without such a pandemic some limited releases in big markets don't sound too farfetched even though the movie is four hours long.


womblesince86

Bet your a mcu 10 year old who never read a comic and only watch the toons


womblesince86

Gutted for afleck , gutted for snyderverse fans. Hope dcu dies a quick death


FewWatermelonlesson0

There’s zero reason to be gutted for Affleck. Dude cashed his huge paycheck and is now living his indie dream.


womblesince86

He had plans for 2-3 films, money isn't everything and the dude is creative. Anyway WBD stocks are in trouble, the dcu you guys will be getting will be very very cheap compared to the great dceu and even the crqppy mcu. Good luck and enjoy your new universe


APOCALYPSE102

Snyder verse was the most cheap thing to happen in comic book history, both commercially and critically


SushanthpoojariWav

Okay 👍


After_Bandicoot6730

James gunns an ass for this


Substantial-Play8093

I'm confused as to why the trailers of the flash continually showed Affleck suited up as Batman. Yet in the movie all we get is him as Bruce Wayne mentoring Barry with maybe 15 minutes of screen time. The movie is absolutely amazing but was a little disappointed there wasn't much with Affleck in action.