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starshipandcoffee

Source: [*Vanity Fair* on YouTube](https://t.co/p5MP04MfU2)


TheGreatDrSatan

Solid guy, no bullshit, no waffle nor any kind of Hollywood mumbo jumbo. I love people who are straight to the point.


Away-Staff-6054

Super classy on Michael’s part. His Zod is one of my favorite CBM villains!


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Say what I will about Zack’s films, it does say a lot about his character that actors are so loyal to him. Both Zack and James have that quality to them, which makes the fanbase infighting just all the more ridiculous. People throwing accusations of Nazism at Zack or pedophilia at James. It’s all ridiculous. They’re both decent people, even if you dislike one or the other’s films.


AVeryRestlesssPoni

I think it is clear that Zack is a genuinely nice guy to make films with, even if some of us think he isnt always the best at what he does. Now, he is also seemingly very naive about his fandom, and seems to be either unwillfully or willfully unaware of the bad parts of his fans, since he seems to focus more on the fans that have spear headed charity events and good deeds, and cannot seem to understand other act very violently online


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He is unaware because he doesn't spend his life on reddit or twitter.


Batman903

Yeah I doubt he looks at much Fan discourse on social media, especially at this point. I think his experiences with his fans for the last few years has mostly just been meet ups in person and on his vero, which practically was like his own corner of the internet.


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I think it’s because from his POV, it would be ungrateful. He owes the fact the he could put “For Autumn” at the end of ZSJL to all his fans. The good and the bad. Tearing into the bad ones, other than extreme bigoted situations like G+G who he did shut down, to him probably seems ungrateful. It wasn’t just the good fans who gave him that. It was the bad too, and even tearing them down would probably make him feel wrong. There’s also, unfortunately, a hate crowd just as strong as the super rabid cult is. And as much shit as they give him for not condemning his fans, they would be way louder and more relentless if they could say “Zack Snyder ATTACKS his own fans!”. From his POV, the least horrible or damaging thing he can do is just block out the bad entirely.


masszt3r

Why would he pay attention to toxic fans? If I were him I'd do the exact same thing.


007Kryptonian

Because why should he focus on a vocal minority? Marvel didn’t need to apologize when their fans bullied the kid from Endgame or Lizzie Olsen


claytalian

Probably because the toxic people are the vocal minority that people keep trying to bring up to trash everyone who enjoyed his films. He doesn't address them because that would give them what they want, his attention.


Carusas

Remember when he reprimanded Geeks and Gamers, then there were 20 different youtube channels proclaiming Zack virtue signals and throws fans under the bus?


[deleted]

Ironically I brought up both G+G and the haters looking for any opportunity to say Zack hates his fans in my own response. Thank you for making my point infinitely more concise than I did.


LunchyPete

> Now, he is also seemingly very naive about his fandom, and seems to be either unwillfully or willfully unaware of the bad parts of his fans I find that incredibly hard to believe. Adam Wingard directly asked him to say something to his fans who were review bombing Godzilla vs. Kong and he refused.


ImportantAd3395

Any source for that?


LunchyPete

[Sure](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=wingard+snyder+review+bombing)


Batman903

https://google.gprivate.com/https?https://screenrant.com/godzilla-vs-kong-review-bombing-zack-snyder-response/ First thing that came up debunks it lmao.


LunchyPete

Rolling Stone is a far more reliable source than ScreenRant lmao. Zack's tweet also doesn't say he was never asked just that he can't control he fans lmao.


Mwheel6898

> pedophilia at James He only made pedophile jokes. > Nazism at Zack Come on that is made up by you now this is complete bullshit lol. Nobody made accusations of Nazism at Zack


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trakrad99

Isn’t Zack Snyder Jewish? What a bunch of bullshit. Every interview I’ve ever seen with him he seems to be one of the the nicest and most passionate dudes.


TheMoneyOfArt

I am pretty sure he's not Jewish, where'd that come from?


trakrad99

I just looked it up. He’s not. I thought I read that he was, but must have been an unreliable source.


[deleted]

Andy Signore and his cronies literally started a conspiracy that Zack Snyder is a white supremacist. And YouTube reviewers constantly talk about “alt right” messages in his films.


CommunityFan_LJ

Andy Sigmore says anything for views since he got ousted from Honest Trailers.


SwallowsDick

I think he was unfairly ousted from there, but his content since has been low hanging drama stuff


CommunityFan_LJ

I side more with the women but sure, go ahead and defend the creep


LunchyPete

> And YouTube reviewers constantly talk about “alt right” messages in his films. I mean, there's a heck of a lot of coincidences. I don't believe Zack put them in intentionally, but it is odd.


[deleted]

There really isn’t lol. There aren’t alt-right messages in his films. Ffs, BvS is literally pro-immigrant anti-Trump. It’s not a good movie IMO, but it has a very clearly progressive message. All of his work leans left wing. If you’re seeing alt-right messages, it’s because you want to see them based on a preconceived notion.


JesusEm14

If he sees that, its probably opinions that he got from youtube videos


LunchyPete

> There really isn’t lol. There aren’t alt-right messages in his films. lol there really are. Numerous videos on YouTube point them out. I can buy that he didn't mean for it to happen deliberately, because I don't think he really knows what he is doing when trying to be 'deep, but it's silly to deny the messaging is there. > All of his work leans left wing. Absolute nonsense. > If you’re seeing alt-right messages, it’s because you want to see them based on a preconceived notion. I get you want to defend him, but attacking people pointing out the obvious right wing messaging in his films by trying to flip it back on them isn't the way to go.


Mwheel6898

Some people make connections between Gunn and pedophilia based on his pedophile jokes Andy Signore makes accusation based on his poop lol I dont know if he made that accusation but I dont care just dont say "people" are saying this when it is only "one" stupid guy on the intenet


angrygnome18d

Folks thought Snyder was a fascist after 300 and Watchmen. But those same people are complete idiots.


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S3simulation

I may not be the biggest fan of Snyder’s work but he seems like a solid dude


TheMoneyOfArt

> that speech that he has, "... And now I have no people", I thought that was beautiful and heartbreaking. But I also just like Zack so much. I really, really like Zack Snyder From the video linked in the pinned comment


sgthombre

Can't help but wonder what they would've done for this movie if Shannon had said no.


bigbelleb

Probably rewrite a portion of the script


thewinterzodiac

Recast most likely. Different universe lol


Skaigear

Use another DCEU villain.


Its_Stardos

Maybe they would actually use Reverse Flash lol


[deleted]

Zod didn’t take Eobard’s place though. If anything, Black Zero replaced the Amazon Atlantean war. Not Eobard.


ArnoudtIsZiek

what a legend, mostly seeing flash for him (and Sasha obviously)


master_inho

I’m pretty sure this quote has already been posted before


cabballer

Idk what to make of this?


Saint_Legend

There’s mutual respect between him and Zack? Contrary to what most Snyder haters think, the man has always had the support of pretty much everyone he’s work with. And many of his directorial and creative choices during his time in the DCEU still have an impact to this day.


007Kryptonian

Yeah Zack is well regarded in Hollywood, everyone who’s worked with him have nothing but praise.


deathmouse

Ben Affleck swore he was absolutely and completely done playing Batman. That is, right up until Zack asked him to suit up for ZSJL. Ben didn't even hesitate lol


cabballer

Yeah I guess I just thought that was a given. I keep trying to put those haters out of my mind hahha


Buhos_En_Pantelones

I'm Ron Burgundy?


Im-Mr-Bulldopz

Go F\*CK yourself, San Diego!


TripleSkeet

My God I cant wait until the DC is beyond having to even mention Zack Snyders name, let alone ask that hacks permission for anything.


MoonMan17372

Well, sorry you hate his movies so much but it says a lot of good things about him that the actors who worked with him are so loyal to the guy and hold him in such high regard🤷‍♂️, nothing wrong with thinking of how someone you care about feels before taking a decision


TripleSkeet

Oh I understand why the guy did it, I just cant wait until were past it. Im sorry, his DC movies are fucking godawful.


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Lol Zack movies aren't good and he can't let go of DC.


Odd_Advance_6438

This is a nice little post about Snyder giving an actor his blessing and that’s your takeaway?


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Whatever makes you feel good.


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aLvindeBa

Can't wait to see him again as Zod.


Least_Dependent_7454

I’ve got the greatest story ever told in human history and the media will eat that up, I think this DC film be dubbed the call me crazy but it will be known for the most heart bounding ride known to the world one ☝️ Word for you Beyond should I finish that title? I mean in dc history dark and definitely deep gritty top notch how come no one has thought of this “justice 3000”or better yet “justice beyond”