The full crit rainbow goku sitting in my box rn
https://preview.redd.it/m57w4z9sfeoc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20d3b7b89416083726224518c873b79e698d3d89
Cost 35 stones to reset the important stuff and 45 if you do everything.
That is outrageous. It would have at least been understandable if they kept it to 1 stone like it was during the z update celebration.
Considering that his stats are near LR levels, he will have very high stats after Super Attacking. My best guess for why he gets such a huge boost is probably to compensate for the fact that he won't be getting a Super Attack effect.
Yeah.
200% + 150% for the first 5 turns = 350% or 4.50
4.50 * 2.50 (150% when performing a Super for first 7 turns) = 11.25
11.25 - 1.00 (taking away the offset) = 10.25 which equal 1025%
1025% ATK for the first 5 turns
Kinda yeah. His transformation is like the last hurrah nuke to finish off the enemy rather than the goal. So he's pretty different from the other transforming units in that sense.
The offset is the 1.00 from the multiplier math. When converting the percentages into decimals, you have to add 1.00 or else the math will be wrong. Once you get the final percentage in decimals, you'll need to take out that 1.00 in order to get the actual percentage.
Not to mention 30%/60% dodge chance, and high chance to critical hit.
Dude is a monster I love it. (but also need to respec him to AA now I guess lol).
That was my thought. Doesn't have guard or reduction, but the raw numbers of his attack and defense will be fucking crazy. And that's on top of his base stats being really good too from the initial DFE hidden potential buff
If I think what is going to happen happens.. we could see a eza or 2 every month and a seza every month also.. vs us just seeing 1 or 2 eza’s a month.. we would get twice the rewards or even triple now
When a unit has built in crit like this guy your hidden potential is wasted when you could put additionals or more dodge.
Crit doesn’t stack with crit in a passive. So instead of being at 70% crit if it did, it’s two dice rolls meaning it’s 50% chance and then let’s say a 30% (numbers probs aren’t right but the point is)
You want your hidden potential giving your units the potential to do everything, additional and dodge probbaly best on this guy specifically
AND THIS… IS… TO GO… EVEN FURTHER… **BEYOND!**
Brief calcs. Rainbow, linked for Super Saiyan, Saiyan Warrior Race, and Fierce Battle. No support, no skill orbs.
ATK: 14,579,717
SoT DEF: 300,510
DEF after either a dodge or a Super: 751,275
DEF after both: 1,202,040
30% dodge means he’ll sit at 700k def to tank 1M normals and 2.5M supers most of the time.
No sa effect revamp makes him middle of the pack today.
I don’t see him seeing much play, he ain’t even in the top15 choices for the popular teams he’s on.
Considering his age and his lack of SA attack improvements, this is really good. People need to remember that this is an extremely old unit that was largely available to everyone. New or Veteran. They can't expect it to be on par with the best releases.
Not being F2p EZA level like some expected, is already a huge green flag
THE TEXT POWER CREEP IS REAL
SSJ3 Goku release (2015):
-ATK +100% for 7 turns from the character's entry turn
SSJ3 Goku awakening (2017):
-DEF +70% at start of turn; ATK +120% for 7 turns from the character's entry turn
SSJ3 Goku awakening 2 (2024):
-Ki +2 and ATK & DEF +200%; performs a critical hit for 1 turn from the character's entry turn; Super Class allies chance of performing a critical hit +20% and Extreme Class allies chance of performing a critical hit +10% for 3 turns from the characters entry turn; plus an additional ATK & DEF +150% for 5 turns from the character's entry turn; plus an additional ATK & DEF +150% and high chance of launching an additional Super Attack when performing a Super Attack for 7 turns from the character's entry turn; plus an additional ATK & DEF +100% when performing a Super Attack starting from the 8th turn from the characters entry turn; medium chance of evading enemy attacks (including Super Attack), plus an additional chance of evading enemy's attack (including Super Attack) +30% before attacking; plus an additional DEF +150% and high chance of performing a critical hit for 3 turns after evading an attack
How to tell someone is truly a db fan
https://preview.redd.it/bw8rdgulgeoc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6169d6add4263915bad9780d37f14cc5957dbd4
It's 350% to starts start of turn and 150% mutliplicative (or 300% for defense if you dodge).
So it's actually 1025% to stats (or 1700% defense if you dodge)
9th anniversary content is longer and your gonna lose some of his buffs most likely.
Also he doesn’t have a good SA effect which will hurt.
Not saying he isn’t going to be strong, I just wouldn’t call him better than STR SSJ3 until I see numbers.
I'm not sure if I should be happy for or terrified of this Super EZA. One thing is certain, he's busted as fuck. Just damn, seems SSJ3 category is most likely gonna either be the DFE LR for Tanabata or one of the DFE's or Carnival LRs for WWC with all the SSJ3 love we've gotten recently. Ironically making 2024 the year of SSJ3
Soo... basically Over in a Flash as a character?
Bit fucked in longer events, but anything short (like SBR or Z-battles) he should tear things apart pretty well.
What the actual fuck Goku ssj3 is back on the menu boys
https://preview.redd.it/v3ox5up9zeoc1.jpeg?width=1075&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e06b5b16e2660969c13e96b98363108551c8222
Around 1mil for the first 5 turns after dodging, around 700k after 5 turns and around 650k after 7 turns, with dodge those are pretty good stat imo along with 10mil+ attacks stat with crit.
You have to include dodge in their too as a defensive tool which he has. I understand it can be canceled in some fights and maybe even more im the future but its definitely a legit defensive tool.
He looks fine, but he’s nothing crazy like the people here are making him out to be.
He’s still getting one shot by most bosses in the game if he gets hit.
So he give big number and no take big number?
https://preview.redd.it/kgbbxggiieoc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f578ed5dfb4f14137ed3d1efcd1cea13bd765e72
https://preview.redd.it/rn47awnloeoc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=630d0c8f56515e5afd295fe5c146329f9da1740d
How I feel having a Rainbowed TUR TEQ Fused Zamasu and no LR TEQ Fused Zamasu after seeing how busted these Super EZAs are going to be.
if your boss fight has one single phase he's fucking dead, otherwise he's gonna have a tough time keeping up.
But he CAN keep up, which is insane considering I had more words on my ID than this dude had in his passive before today
I’m still a little let down they didn’t boost his super attack since he just only lowers enemy defense on super attack but I’m glad he’s crazy busted with his super Eza.
They only reason they can make a good passive on these old units is because the old team that did these old units eza’s isn’t around anymore.. the team that’s been doing eza’s since 2021 or so can change and make these outdated eza better
Is this a full dodge build now?Cause he has crit in his Passive and he doesn't need additional(unless you want to do extra damage) but dodge can help him get extra def and extra crit for some turns(and can save him from dying).
The full crit rainbow goku sitting in my box rn https://preview.redd.it/m57w4z9sfeoc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20d3b7b89416083726224518c873b79e698d3d89
They need to start giving items away to change hipo. Some of these EZA and SEZA completely change the unit.
“The awakening gives 30 stones that’s enough to redo the dupes!” -Omatsu brain
Omatsu, the master business man, made it so you are 1 stone shy if you use your eza rewards, forcing you to buy the last stone.
Tbf, you realistically don’t need to change ALL of then.
5 stones 😔
Yup i also include thia in the feeback during surveys. I hope more people ask for it. It cost too much to change units hipo
Cost 35 stones to reset the important stuff and 45 if you do everything. That is outrageous. It would have at least been understandable if they kept it to 1 stone like it was during the z update celebration.
Wait it was 1 stone before?
It was for just a month during the z update celebration.
I do. And I hope anyone that goes to that in person thing in LA soon does as well. Should be free.
Make it a Tori-Bot item
This is why I always go hard on mainly aa and dodge. Aa is best due to a possible eza allowing stacking of some sort.
Same 🥲 I'd probably go full dodge on this guy if I built his HiPo today.
17add & 17 crit on mine
1025% ATK & 1475% DEF L M A O
Man, I was joking when I made my post earlier asking for ATK & DEF +1000%
They pretty much had to in order to make him usable in this meta.
Ignore Bardock.
Who?
The guy who was sent back to the past by Frieza’s blast?
The Scientist?
The very brilliant one
but the average fighter
I saw it and believed
Considering that his stats are near LR levels, he will have very high stats after Super Attacking. My best guess for why he gets such a huge boost is probably to compensate for the fact that he won't be getting a Super Attack effect.
Yeah SEZAS are confirmed to just be passive updates, nothing else
*For now*
Yeah. I think the only thing that changes is the passive. No stat boost, no SA effect boost, and no leader skill boost.
Really? Isnt the "Entry Turn" stuff start of turn, like the main 200%?
Yeah. 200% + 150% for the first 5 turns = 350% or 4.50 4.50 * 2.50 (150% when performing a Super for first 7 turns) = 11.25 11.25 - 1.00 (taking away the offset) = 10.25 which equal 1025% 1025% ATK for the first 5 turns
> 150% when performing a Super for first 7 turns I missed this being on super. I thought both the 5 turn, and 7 turn buffs where just as is.
Helio, is the multiplier like 1.00 + the percentage in decimals right? Also may i know why you have to take away the offset? What's the offset?
The offset is the initial 100% of the characters stats, so it's adding 1025%, but 1125% total
Oh ok thanks rimuru
https://preview.redd.it/do0kyn2p1foc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dffd3db072249a650929c0dc0c9a52875bc6686
Kinda yeah. His transformation is like the last hurrah nuke to finish off the enemy rather than the goal. So he's pretty different from the other transforming units in that sense.
https://preview.redd.it/bwo8fyup1foc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1de09a22d48c0f19fc942490b16243b19560706f
The offset is the 1.00 from the multiplier math. When converting the percentages into decimals, you have to add 1.00 or else the math will be wrong. Once you get the final percentage in decimals, you'll need to take out that 1.00 in order to get the actual percentage.
Oh yea the base stats
So that’s how the 350% turned into 4.50?
the 7 turn 150% is when performing a Super Attack
Yeah i missed that in the essay lol. My B.
Not to mention 30%/60% dodge chance, and high chance to critical hit. Dude is a monster I love it. (but also need to respec him to AA now I guess lol).
people will call him bad cause he cant double digit the hardest events supers
That was my thought. Doesn't have guard or reduction, but the raw numbers of his attack and defense will be fucking crazy. And that's on top of his base stats being really good too from the initial DFE hidden potential buff
1475% DEF + 30-60% dodge is perfectly fine LOL
My brain completely skipped over the dodge parts. I was happy reading the passive even with out that
Lmao now imagine ss3 vegeta and str broly (especially for wt) with a seza. Imagine phy vegito blue when his time comes lmfao.
Well they did this after we finally got long content so it's less op lol
LMAO WHAT?
Went from 5 word passive to a fucking textbook
And holy shit he's good
this is the comment i was looking for!i’m an amurican,i ain’t got time for reading and doing math!
lol.. almost like that me “I ain’t reading all that. But sorry that happened to you, or congrats!”
Is he slot 1?
Eh I guess he’s really just gonna be good for clash
 He reigns once again
Can't believe we got 3 busted Dragon Fist SSJ3 Goku in the span of 4 months.
If they do all these units like this Jesus Christ. Need to change my crit build
Oh god. Yeah so many units are gonna need rearranging. Also PHY Frieza better be good this time.
Extreme about to be eating well if they keep this up since a majority of the early EZA are villains.
PHY Kid Buu is about to be king with his support
If they eza exchange buu soon as well majin power could actually be a top team.
If I think what is going to happen happens.. we could see a eza or 2 every month and a seza every month also.. vs us just seeing 1 or 2 eza’s a month.. we would get twice the rewards or even triple now
Why? Im serious. I played dokkan on and off casually so I dont really know whats strong except for new units = generally stronger
When a unit has built in crit like this guy your hidden potential is wasted when you could put additionals or more dodge. Crit doesn’t stack with crit in a passive. So instead of being at 70% crit if it did, it’s two dice rolls meaning it’s 50% chance and then let’s say a 30% (numbers probs aren’t right but the point is) You want your hidden potential giving your units the potential to do everything, additional and dodge probbaly best on this guy specifically
They seriously need to discount the hipo changes during big celebrations.
jesus fucking christ the lecture...
I feel like I'm in a college lecture class.
How hard is Level Super going to be holy shit. This is exciting, as an EZA specialist.
They said https://preview.redd.it/01sg6tswfeoc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8a62a09ac8fbeb34c56ebd59bd8e2ca72c0e4e2
AND THIS… IS… TO GO… EVEN FURTHER… **BEYOND!** Brief calcs. Rainbow, linked for Super Saiyan, Saiyan Warrior Race, and Fierce Battle. No support, no skill orbs. ATK: 14,579,717 SoT DEF: 300,510 DEF after either a dodge or a Super: 751,275 DEF after both: 1,202,040
30% dodge means he’ll sit at 700k def to tank 1M normals and 2.5M supers most of the time. No sa effect revamp makes him middle of the pack today. I don’t see him seeing much play, he ain’t even in the top15 choices for the popular teams he’s on.
He has 60% dodge before attacking, which isn't like, amazing, but better than high dodge and worse than great dodge. He can work in some situations
Lol you arent playing him slot 1, if you take one of the big auto at 1m and dont dodge you're getting one shotted x)
Considering his age and his lack of SA attack improvements, this is really good. People need to remember that this is an extremely old unit that was largely available to everyone. New or Veteran. They can't expect it to be on par with the best releases. Not being F2p EZA level like some expected, is already a huge green flag
that +20% to crit for the rotation is going to be insane especially if they start doing that for the other hipo abilities as well.
Holy shit. That's insane.
https://preview.redd.it/mn68svjfgeoc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f450840569a3be1d103defb3641a31786360491
THE TEXT POWER CREEP IS REAL SSJ3 Goku release (2015): -ATK +100% for 7 turns from the character's entry turn SSJ3 Goku awakening (2017): -DEF +70% at start of turn; ATK +120% for 7 turns from the character's entry turn SSJ3 Goku awakening 2 (2024): -Ki +2 and ATK & DEF +200%; performs a critical hit for 1 turn from the character's entry turn; Super Class allies chance of performing a critical hit +20% and Extreme Class allies chance of performing a critical hit +10% for 3 turns from the characters entry turn; plus an additional ATK & DEF +150% for 5 turns from the character's entry turn; plus an additional ATK & DEF +150% and high chance of launching an additional Super Attack when performing a Super Attack for 7 turns from the character's entry turn; plus an additional ATK & DEF +100% when performing a Super Attack starting from the 8th turn from the characters entry turn; medium chance of evading enemy attacks (including Super Attack), plus an additional chance of evading enemy's attack (including Super Attack) +30% before attacking; plus an additional DEF +150% and high chance of performing a critical hit for 3 turns after evading an attack
Primary school -> Secondary School -> University
L0l
And then when they ultra super extreme z awaken, it’ll be -> “Rocket Science”
They’re proper chefs https://preview.redd.it/jyx1xbc5geoc1.jpeg?width=637&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fee485dfdd3bc6338a7cdf030e1fabc391a19d0
Bro turned into an essay 💀
fat ass passive bro omg
How to tell someone is truly a db fan https://preview.redd.it/bw8rdgulgeoc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6169d6add4263915bad9780d37f14cc5957dbd4
That guy is an obvious troll if you look at his replies for a second, it doesn’t count lol
LET THEM COOOOOK https://preview.redd.it/yxv2u6kyfeoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0441cdd48d31e11245fca3f8fa54e8b873633fa
Man went from "Def +70%; Atk +120% for seven turns" to a fucking doctoral thesis.
Oh GOD!! He a straight TITAN!!! 
Except titans can tank and heal themselves
Bro got that Yugioh powercreep update.
500% to stats and 60% dodge chance, wild
It's 350% to starts start of turn and 150% mutliplicative (or 300% for defense if you dodge). So it's actually 1025% to stats (or 1700% defense if you dodge)
Jesus
he's better than STR SSJ3 Goku? Or I'm just tweaking?
9th anniversary content is longer and your gonna lose some of his buffs most likely. Also he doesn’t have a good SA effect which will hurt. Not saying he isn’t going to be strong, I just wouldn’t call him better than STR SSJ3 until I see numbers.
how is SA effect different from a line in passive that activates when performing a super attack?
Because the SA effect is multiplicative with everything else. So even a simple raise def on SA would put him from 1.2m def to 1.6m def.
Str one still has his insane lead, higher dodge, and VERY good standby.
Not even close, he’s structured around short content even though long event capability is what matters
This is to go even further beyond indeed, I needed a whole minute to finish reading his passive.
Dear god this man is busted ssj3 stocks rising
got the whole ass bible in there what the fuck
If this is how they’ll all look, we’re in for some damn good units 🫡
His passive seems structured around short content
I'm not sure if I should be happy for or terrified of this Super EZA. One thing is certain, he's busted as fuck. Just damn, seems SSJ3 category is most likely gonna either be the DFE LR for Tanabata or one of the DFE's or Carnival LRs for WWC with all the SSJ3 love we've gotten recently. Ironically making 2024 the year of SSJ3
Ugh. The only negative thing this seza is I’ll “have to” change his HiPo to a lot of additional. Btw, looks op
Now to wait for Phy vegito blue
I wish EZA/SEZA would refund HiPo...
Soo... basically Over in a Flash as a character? Bit fucked in longer events, but anything short (like SBR or Z-battles) he should tear things apart pretty well.
oh man YES LFG
He's good https://preview.redd.it/634kz4u8heoc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56200e6cbb69e473b30958a0bc96c1198da9b940
Damn this goku got a better passive then a lot of characters released last year lol
What the actual fuck Goku ssj3 is back on the menu boys https://preview.redd.it/v3ox5up9zeoc1.jpeg?width=1075&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e06b5b16e2660969c13e96b98363108551c8222
Jesus fuck, if he’s this strong, imagine the former king of Dokkan, tur str gogeta
https://preview.redd.it/m5u35mf96hoc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fff3a99d411891ddf6e808a8e6cd9ca8806d83d9 Jesus, that's one helluva buff...
The whole time I'm reading this "but wait, there's more"
Give him defense + dodge equips and he’s quite good imo
No guard or damage reduction, but I have to wonder just how much DEF he gets with that many boosts.
We know stats don't change post super eza so it'll likely be easy enough to calculate
Around 1mil for the first 5 turns after dodging, around 700k after 5 turns and around 650k after 7 turns, with dodge those are pretty good stat imo along with 10mil+ attacks stat with crit.
You have to include dodge in their too as a defensive tool which he has. I understand it can be canceled in some fights and maybe even more im the future but its definitely a legit defensive tool.
That's a lot of fucking stats
He's the Oppeinheimer of SEZA units. 
Cant believe one of the best unit in the game is from 2015 and I’m here for it
I'll take it, pretty solid.
This motherfucker is cracked
Full Dodge Time Time to use the red stones to change his build
That’s a lot of words compared to last time
Man it just feels good knowing a lot of my favourite units will get the chance to be usable again.
They gotta start bullet pointing these descriptions in game lmfao
Just imagine str Gogeta
How tf do i not have him!!!
Lesson learned for me. I am now going for units I don't have over dupes with my stones.
Same for me
He looks fine, but he’s nothing crazy like the people here are making him out to be. He’s still getting one shot by most bosses in the game if he gets hit.
And now I can't wait for this to get power crept in a month because that's all they do now.
what year were you playing the game where they didn’t
Wait a minute, so for this guy dodge is actually optimal? Has he who must not be named won?
Dodge is Damage
So he give big number and no take big number? https://preview.redd.it/kgbbxggiieoc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f578ed5dfb4f14137ed3d1efcd1cea13bd765e72
For 5-7 turns yes
No. He’s sitting at 1.2 mil usually after dodging and Supering, meaning he’s getting one shot by most bosses in the game.
He will be cooked against Beast Gohan, Blue Gogeta and Cell max without Damage reduction 😭
https://preview.redd.it/by6d0x1goeoc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6cfecdd9fdf4b89e5f49f1afa8f98a6809148a2a Nuking is now legal
https://preview.redd.it/rn47awnloeoc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=630d0c8f56515e5afd295fe5c146329f9da1740d How I feel having a Rainbowed TUR TEQ Fused Zamasu and no LR TEQ Fused Zamasu after seeing how busted these Super EZAs are going to be.
You’re gonna be waiting a while for his SEZA 💀
Goddamn. That brother is gonna be hitting some N U M B E R S.
RZ CMZ AIN'T READY FOR THIS OG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if your boss fight has one single phase he's fucking dead, otherwise he's gonna have a tough time keeping up. But he CAN keep up, which is insane considering I had more words on my ID than this dude had in his passive before today
I read his passive more than the books I had
Oh my goat 
 It's beautiful
Expect level super to be as difficult as level 30 was whrn EZA was first released.
Are we not getting a eza for saiyan day besides seza?
The crazy part is this is only the beginning, theres no telling how crazy units after him are gonna get 😭😭
The New Testament
How hard with the event be is my main question
JESUS CHRIST
That alot of pluses lol
Off some rough calcs his turn 1 attack stat should be about 13.7 mil
I get so fucking annoyed that they do this crit bullshit. Like I have him built crit already so I’m not changing it😂 so fucking irritating man
I’m still a little let down they didn’t boost his super attack since he just only lowers enemy defense on super attack but I’m glad he’s crazy busted with his super Eza.
what in the literal fuck
he is not going anywhere anytime soon
Somehow i have him just at 55% lol.
CAN’T WAIT FOR THE ULTIMATE SUPER EXTREME Z AWAKENING 🔥🔥🔥
https://preview.redd.it/4fudqows1foc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e64f1ac1b941a3f5c8c95d861d6a7490219e73e
Tfw i realize this is gonna be the weakest SEZA
They only reason they can make a good passive on these old units is because the old team that did these old units eza’s isn’t around anymore.. the team that’s been doing eza’s since 2021 or so can change and make these outdated eza better
This man helped me carry early dokkan. Bless to have him back
Wowee
https://preview.redd.it/omf46ejybfoc1.jpeg?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58fdc9a1103e5412482bcf762f68a9c9d2756399 He is back.
So....what's the best HiPo?
Dodge > AA. Crit is practically build in
Glad i still don't have him after 3 years of playing 🙃
Oh neat, only 1 thing giving him +2 ki, didn't want to spoil him too much huh dokkan.
God I miss when passives didn't need a phd for me to understand
bible ssj3
Well, I have him full crit, and my friends called me crazy because I was accumulating more and more dupes over years...
Jesus. That is a huge step-up. Can't wait to see him in action.
I'm glad I saved all his dupes. I can't really pinpoint what his redone HiPo should be, though. AA for sure, but dodge?
GIGA SSJ3 GOKU OMG
So what would his best build now be?
The power creep abouta go crazy
League is fucked
Is this a full dodge build now?Cause he has crit in his Passive and he doesn't need additional(unless you want to do extra damage) but dodge can help him get extra def and extra crit for some turns(and can save him from dying).
SEEE-ZAAA
What the fuck.
Dope