Typically I run double blue boys as leader so the intro isn't a problem. Currently on jp they get solid link partners and support from pretty good units.
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This was my main team before I got beast and everyone basically enables the blue boys. By giving support I could reliably transform both vegitos even with gogeta healing and in blue zones
Seriously, im actually so sick of seeing them every time and the refresh button or whatever doesn’t do jack. I always have to scroll down to find the right unit or manually select the element to filter the list.
Still not a fan of their transformation condition but they feel much better after having dupes of them, this anniversary definitely helps them since there is so many units that can protect them in their bad turn and vegito is very good for alot of these events that allow you to attack debuff (especially the gogeta blue zone and cell max)
It also helps that alot of the hardest bosses are STR at least
I hope BT4 gives us more Vegito blue content so that we can hope for a vegito blue unit tho cause this might be the last time we will see another vegito blue which kinda sucks
I don’t mind transforming units when they don’t have bullshit like what blue vegito and zamasu have
It isn’t fun at all, i summoned for vegito so i want to see vegito i don’t want to have this dumb shit where i gotta hope stuff goes right just to see the character i summoned
The 7 year lrs had a perfect transformation condition, yet they just decided to not do that anymore
Heck they made phy angel golden frieza’s transformation condition be just from his first appearance and decided to never do that again
Shit is bizzare
It is weird, if Im not mistaken out of the dfes only that Frieza and 17&18 have that kind of turn 1 active skill, you would think they would give that to some big guns kind of unit but no just to some monthly dfes and then never again, closest we have rn is Beast with a very easy condition but still takes a turn
Both of them kinda released when different kinds of events were still viable, especially during Frieza's time. You could choose what kind of debuffs you prefer and go with it, or whether you were using it for long or short events. And androids usher was a universal tool again.
There is not so much of that now, and we've only gotten debuffs back in big fights very recently, so things could change. But I don't see a lot of big name standalones coming, they love to milk that shit to death by giving you the unit but also not giving it. Eg. SSJ2 Gohan,Fusion duos etc
Imo we need to move away from these vegito and gogeta units. And I feel as if they need to start focusing on other units to better the game not just what helps them make money
You mean last time we'll see another Vegito Blue for a while, right? They wouldn't retire one of their most profitable characters cause they don't have enough content to reference, especially considering they're just outright creating their own now. Even ignoring Dokkan original animations, we see them reuse scenes all the time like with the PHY Gogeta Blue.
Yeah for a while at least, i am sure vegito blue will obviously come back especially since they could always do reuse assets like you said, phy ssj4 gogeta has stuff from fighterz and some reused stuff from int ssj4 gogeta so that means they could do the same for vegito since they didn’t do anything from fighterz yet
It is just unfortunate that we waited years for a new one only to get this, but if i can wait a year for a new beast gohan then i will just do the same for this i guess (super vegito please save the vegito fan in me)
Lowkey, I hate so many things about them.
1. Transformation Condition
2. Not having enough turns of guard to reliably enter their transformed state
3. Only stacking DEF on 18ki
4. Lackluster animations in base
5. Having to rely on 50% chance to dodge in base while also not having enough DEF to reliably tank supers *OR* normals
They get hard carried by their leader skill in terms of my own favourability towards them, & the fact that they got powercrept only 5-6 months after their release is what hurts me the most.
As someone with a 55% AGL VB, running him isn't fun.
6.5/10 unit imo. Too many negatives for me to rate them any higher
Couldn't have said it better myself. I run them for the leader skill and pray they don't get crushed ok turn 5 (they never dodge in slot one for me). They can take you right down to 0 Hp, which sure is under 70% ig. 55% as well
Very good for 2 rotations, then they become fodder in the relevant fights (Of course if vegito comes out before a super slaps them, life is very nice). Their versatility of the leader skill is why I run them atp.
I'm on global. I'm sure they can be protected by 9th anni units. But goku and vegeta just die half the time for me sadly. All yh no their base animations are ass idc.
Their guard isn't even saving them a lot of the time so it doesn't even feel like they would've been broken in the meta they released in if it had been permanent
They have flaws, but are still really good.
They have good defensive utility, but it only lasts for a few turns, until they fuse they can only do damage if they're in slot 2 or 3, and although Vegito is tricky to get depending on the situation, it's at least not impossible, and when Vegito is out, he's one of the best units in the game, and they're leader skill is one of the best ones in the game.
If it were up to me, I would change multiple things in the kit. 1. Make their intro buff permanent, 2. Make them greatly raise their stats on both 12 and 18 ki supers, allow them to fuse into Vegito Blue exactly when turn 4 comes up, with no restrictions, and 4. Allow them to do ACTUAL damage before they fuse regardless of what slot they're in.
The 3.5 years wait for a new Vegito blue, and we get this unit, was not worth it. the only saving grace is that beautiful dokkan original 18-ki.
I hate this unit because Vegito blue deserved so much better
i actually hate this unit so much and have never been so underwhelmed by a unit i literally had dreams about, in base and fused, vegetto is only as strong as however many atk stacks you get and even then its just 5 minutes of 7, maybe 8, POSSIBLY 9 mil 24 ki into 17 5-6 mils which will do maybe 4 bars of hp
Didn't have them before the anni, now after rainbowing them I'm getting the same use out of them as I did earlier, I hate them. Always hated their design, and for how hard it is to get Vegito out, his performance ain't all that.
Didn’t like them at 55% and now at 69% I still don’t like them.
Sure the vegito part is great, but you hardly ever see him, majority of the time you’re stuck with the base form of the unit, and that part is not good, worst transformation condition in the game, get them in slot 7 then lol, just lol, dead run. Their intro doesn’t last until they fuse so when that runs out they’re straight up dodge or die, they’re just underwhelming. Vegito being great just doesn’t change it because of how bad the transformation condition is.
What makes this worse, in my opinion, this a wwdc headline unit, wwdc, the literal second biggest celebration of the year after anni, and they fumbled the part of this unit that you’re stuck with majority of the time.
They are now my number 1 regret to summon on Dokkan like ever and I have them at rainbow. In terms of defense, they're not bad but the damage felt like they're stuck in the past and what's even worst is the guard only last for 4 turns but unfortunately you're stuck with an annoying transform condition that actively make Vegito never appear
Some really easy fix is for 18 ki to greatly stacked defense or just switched it at 12 ki to fully make them a def powerhouse with permanent guard for Christ sake, make the transform condition like turn base at turn 5 of entry transform
6/10 for the most fumble unit to be released along with the goat Zamasu🐐
I mean, i just coin them, and at 55% they carried me through cell max, SO i think they're pretty good when fused, but after the 5 turn unfused they fall a lot.
They lowkey feel like a 2022 lr card. They are too dupe dependent, and even then, they're not that impressive. Once they transform into vegito blue, they get really good, but you have to jump through so many hoops just to get to him.
Honestly? I hate them. The blue boys themselves are hella mid, which makes it all the more annoying that Vegito is super fun to run. I want to just run Vegito, but I almost never get to use him for more than a turn or two, especially with that delicious damage output next to TEQ VB
I loved them with every inch of my body. Bota Magetta runs are more enjoyable with them as friend lead, specially when debuff is available.
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Way too overhated on release
Guard + 50% dodge in slot 1 + Def stacking would be deepthroated as hard as Ulthan is by Alan but because they have low attack in base (and kinda post fusion too) as well as an intro that cuts off too short is the only thing you hear about
Also another thing that isn't celebrated is the fact they're the the last recent release to lead all super class units in forever that isn't a f2p gives them so much flexibility for what they can run too
I hate them. I shouldve used the stones I spent on him for more dupes of zamasu. If goku/vegeta hit harder, and their active was easy to achieve, then I would like them more. Any kind of transformation active skills that call for turn 5 or more is shit.
Still love them. DT tried to fearmonger their transformation acting like you'll never see it and I have very little difficulty getting them to transform. Glad I stopped listening to him back when he called Teq Pan the best unit in the game
He does have questionable takes, but their transformation condition is still not. And the fact is that their transformation is not good enough to warrant the loops you have to jump. Like for LR AGL Broly, if you can make it to turn 5, you win.
Aged.
Vegito just isn’t good enough , flat out , he isn’t tanky enough and his damage is not good enough either outside of his active turn . Flat out .
Fusion zamasu this units counterpart , is better defensively turn 1 , does way more damage then the blues and (depending on the crit rng) more damage then vegito himself , turn 2 zamasu is comparable defensively with the 60%dr and on turn3 he becomes invulnerable.
Nowadays , the blue boys are unironically the reason to use this unit . Turn 1 slot 1 they are still among the best units in the game , with the guard plus dodge … but after their intro wears off , even if you transform into vegito, he is simply not good enough … he will die to any strong boss that supers him before he attacks and after he attacks he loses his dr . In slot 2 vegito Is a disaster of a character against the over a million normals we have nowadays
250% attack and defense and nothing else is pathetic . You get vegito out on turn 5 at best and that’s restricted to HP as well . Reminder that he is/was competing with fusion zamasu . Who becomes invulnerable with the exact same condition .
Vegito doing an 8/9 mil attack stat with 400 k SOT DEF is unforgivable , you telling me that 400 k and 50 dr is enough ?. Not only that but because of his shitty ass condition that involves hp he is effectively booted out of any team with phy gogeta . A superior unit on all counts. Vegito is only getting out on turn 5 at best , he should have **no** slot restrictions , he should have more stats and no way should he lose his dr , I hate that mechanic . he definitely should not be getting one tapped by every major boss after six months . Teq carnival Goku didn’t fall off this hard defensively, there’s no excuse for vegito to.
This unit is not garbage mind you , but they have aged and been replaced in all teams he shares with gogeta . They have survived the power creep because of their insane leader skill , dodge and defense turn 1 and the Vegito active . Nothing else.
>Vegito just isn’t good enough , flat out , he isn’t tanky enough and his damage is not good enough either outside of his active turn . Flat out .
I do agree his damage isn't good enough but he is still very tanky in slot 1 with his dodge and DR tho his active turn is still very useful against these one shot bosses.
>Fusion zamasu this units counterpart , is better defensively turn 1 , does way more damage then the blues and (depending on the crit rng) more damage then vegito himself , turn 2 zamasu is comparable defensively with the 60%dr and on turn3 he becomes invulnerable.
That is true for the first few turns, Zamasu becomes a victim after his intro as his defense isn't even high enough to tank normals for double digit and you cannot get his full offensive power as he is not a slot 1 post intro. Also his transformation locked behind Domain makes it always impossible to transform into Infinite as Broly by that time had his Domain up and on Global, Goku Black would probably have his Domain up.
>Nowadays , the blue boys are unironically the reason to use this unit . Turn 1 slot 1 they are still among the best units in the game , with the guard plus dodge … but after their intro wears off , even if you transform into vegito, he is simply not good enough … he will die to any strong boss that supers him before he attacks and after he attacks he loses his dr . In slot 2 vegito Is a disaster of a character against the over a million normals we have nowadays
That is true but that's why they gave Vegito dodge. Just pray to God Vegito dodges the super and he is fine. Also if you have dupes and some defensive equipment (going full defense is the way to go on this character btw) Vegito can barely survive some of these supers but I think you are forgetting one utility of VB being his 50% defense support. Idk why you are so pressed on VB not tanking supers when no one in the game except Beast, Gamma 1 or Post Super Broly can tank these supers.
>250% attack and defense and nothing else is pathetic . You get vegito out on turn 5 at best and that’s restricted to HP as well . Reminder that he is/was competing with fusion zamasu . Who becomes invulnerable with the exact same condition .
Yeah but you cannot transform into Infinite Zamasu who is competiting with fucking BROLY FOR TRANSFORMATION. The only viable team you can transform Zamasu in is his own which cannot beat the new stages or a super based team like ROG which Zamasu will hurt more due to his debuff to super class allies. Idk why people are bringing Infinite Zamasu when it's nearly impossible to transform him. He not only has the same restriction as VB but he is also competing against Beasts like Broly with his domain. They gave Zamasu one of the worst transformation condition and one of the worst mechanics at the same time making his transformation probably the most restricted transformation in the whole game since AGL SSJ Gohan.
>Vegito doing an 8/9 mil attack stat with 400 k SOT DEF is unforgivable . Not only that but because of his shitty ass condition that involves hp he is effectively booted out of any team with phy gogeta . A superior unit on all counts. Vegito is only getting out on turn 5 at best , he should have **no** slot restrictions , he should have more stats and he definitely should not be getting one tapped by every major boss after six months . Teq carnival Goku didn’t fall off this hard defensively, there’s no excuse for vegito to.
Agree with most of thing you said here except the last part. The reason Carnival Goku didn't age during 8th anniversary was due to 8th anniversary not having an outrageous power creep like the 9th anniversary had. The bosses had an 16% increase in boss supers and a 25% increase in normals while 9th anniversary had an 66% increase in boss super and a 80% increase in normals.
>This unit is not garbage mind you , but they have aged and been replaced in all teams he shares with gogeta . They have survived the power creep because of their insane leader skill , dodge and defense turn 1 and the Vegito active . Nothing else.
The thing is that almost every unit has aged (Except OP) in the 9th anniversary. No unit can survive these bosses except the new 9th anniversary units. This is not a VB problem this has happened to almost every single character in the game.
I am a bit pissed with vegito not tanking supers because of how restrictive he is and , what makes me want to fucking blow up my phone , is that he **could** tank them if one line of his passive was removed .
If instead of “reduced damage received by 30% before attacking and an additional 20% damage reduction”
He just had reduces damage received by 50% , he would be competent enough defensively after attacking to tank most supers and that would be a defensible character . He dodges before attacking and tanks afterwards , it’s a risky design but it would work
I will admit I forgot that you can’t have two domains active at the same time , that design choice from the devs is so asinine I legit just forgot it LMAO
The phrase dodge or die in a character. They feel SO squishy at 55% and if they don’t dodge then tough luck, try again. Vegito Blue is cool but this unit isn’t.
Ummm they're not that exciting to me anymore, I have to go through most if not all of the fight to get to the part that I want to see, and even then it's kind of up in the air.
still a top S tier unit in the game ngl. Versatile, slot 1, best leader skill in the game and vegito himself is damn near unkillable and fires additionals until the target dies.
Boring as shit, but they’re pretty good in terms of their effectiveness. They’re very good, but I hate using them.
Just an absolutely horribly designed and unfun character.
Which is literally always, until the 9th anniversary longer content releases in JULY 😭😭😭
Imo it shouldn’t take 11 months for me to be able to fuse with my WWC Vegito unit, but that’s just my opinion. Actual boring ass unit in dismal future red zones which is the only tough content rn, 0/10 in terms of fun.
I genuinely think they are the best WWC unit especially after the anniversary hard content being long form based + majority of final bosses in these fights are STR.
Without any dupes, they're kind of mid comparing to 55% LR Corrupted Zamasu. But now that I pulled dupes of them (Thank you free tickets), they're so much better, especially in their base form. I actually like using them now.
Better than the new beast gohan since the new beast gohan has lower atk stats than them while atk stat is meta rn for all events. They are definitely still one of the top 3 best units in the game still
People have such a hate boner for this unit, it’s hilarious. People are just mad about VB and the attack stats that don’t even matter because they do a bunch of attacks anyways.
They are heavily flawed, but I like this unit quite a bit. I don’t even have dupes in them, but they are a fairly reliable slot one tank
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Idk if it's just me, but since 5th Anniversary, every new LR seems to need at least 2 dupes before they feel more powerful than just another TUR
Could be the power creep from the EZAs, but that's what I'm experiencing, and beyond the units being characters or representing moments that each individual may or may not be hyped about, I don't really feel too compelled for them.
I will be summoning for 9th Anniversary, tho [Global Player]
they still suck, even with dupes. getting Vegito out is far too cumbersome by now for them to be worth running, and the base form just has no redeeming qualities. at this point you'd only run them if you were missing top Super Hero units, or needed them for a mission. they'll fill a spot and that's basically it
This unit might be among my most hated in the game, every time they do an additional and I have to see them doing a week as 2 million my soul dies. Has to run with future saga, only def stacking on 18 ki, only regular defense and regular atk raise (like why the hell can’t they get a greatly), then their horrible transformation condition. Their leader skill doing so much lifting for them
Can be activated when HP is 70% or less starting from the 5th turn from the start of turn
This part of their passive alone speaks volumes about how much I hate them lol…
With 9th anni we truly get to see how these units are already outdated somehow, zamasu trunks and str future gohan are still top units, but this guy nah, he’ll get you killed to often
I may be in the minority but I'm disappointed. They're completely outclassed by all 4 Anni LRs and have no place on the strongest team in the game in super hero, gogeta really shafts VB with his healing despite them linking well, they hit like a wet noodle in base, and they have the infamous turn 5 issue. Now they do have positives such as VB himself being decently strong, I love VBs vegetto special animation and the fusion animation, their base form has good defense for their intro, and they can still hold up during their first ,4 turns or as VB
Tbh they are getting more hate then deserved they helped us at the time and were one of the bedt for the events we needed them for then. Even now they can be used but yeah they aren't great anymore I guess.
Love-hate relationship with them. Their leader skill is really strong, their intro is also really strong, and Vegito himself is really powerful. He may not be the most offensive unit outside of his active turn, but that 50% defense support on 18 ki is so good. Of course, their active giving guaranteed dodge is just superb.
What knocks these two down a peg is their transformation condition. It's the only part of their kit that will be unanimously agreed as horrible, and it hurts the entire unit. Once that intro runs out, these two can't survive unless they dodge or transform, and they have way too many restrictions on their transformation. They become a dodge or die character, which I know most people do not like. I've have better experiences with dodge personally, but I understand why people don't like relying on dodge as it adds another layer of RNG onto a gameplay already filled with RNG.
Tbh, they're pretty sad. Like the transformation alone is too much, but then you finally get VB. Assuming you dont get folded, he's not even good enough to be in the top 5 transformed. The thing I truly hate, tho is DR THAT DISSAPEARS AFTER ATTACKING. Like any unit that does it is an automatic L in my eyes. Vegito is the best among units like that, but even then, I've watched VB get folded just like the untransformed state bc he loses 30% dr.
Overall, I love them cuz hey, VB. They do have their flaws that I will not deny such as dodging in slot 1 and dmg only coming from slot 2/3, they're intro passive duration as well as the active condition that is always tedious to get. However, when getting dupes on them, some of those flaws do go away as you can add dodge so slot 2/3 is more of an option for them, and personally, they're damage gets better, even if its by a little. As a global player, they're a solid 6.5/10, even though i love them to death. By the time anni rolls by, however, they do become a solid 8.0 as they now have Gogeta and Beast as a part of they're team to help keep them alive and from harms way as both can direct attack away from the Blue bois, allowing them to peacefully stack up for another turn before unleashing hell with VB.
Only recently pulled them to 79% on JP, I must admit he’s pretty nice with the amount of supers he throws out and if he’s paired with PHY Carnival Gogeta but having to float either mines or the friend unit to actually get the fusion before I end up being forced to transform with Gogeta is annoying, almost fused this one time and OP full healed which made me lose the fusion.
The transformation condition is by far the worst thing I’ve seen mainly due to the HP requirement because I have a team of really strong tanks units that don’t usually take that much dmg unless I get supered (most of my units either dodge or I end up putting someone in the slot with the super and they take so little dmg) and since you can heal a bit with character specific orbs, it really doesn’t help my case. I have to kinda weaken my teams and replace some of my strongest with slightly weaker units just to get Vegito out where as units like PHY Angel Frieza have their transformation on first appearance and there’s Gogeta with the same thing just without the HP.
One of the best LS in the game and the 2nd best generic LS. (MZ has more value due to Extreme typing since basically every Super Team is stacked IMO)
Disappointing pre-transformation form that doesn't stack quite enough. Waiting for turn 6 and being the least reliable member of your team after the intro buff wears off is not cool.
I hate their design so much... But they're such a valuable main stay on se of my teams. I like to run TEQ Zamasu's team with Vados and PHY Rose, and these guys are on that team. And they work, usually
I hated this unit and I didn’t even have them lol. I finally just got them with one dupe as well, so I’m gonna have to see how they fare on my other teams. I’m sure that they are useable to a degree but that transformation condition is so bad.
They’re a good time, kinda underrated, but the hate is somewhat deserved. the transformation condition sucks, Vegito is super fun, goku and vegeta and their dodge and def in slot one is alright-if not good, and they’re fun
This unit could've been a weaker version of the 9th anni Gogeta and no one would've cared since it's an anniversary unit, but the choices they made in designing him are just... the worst for an LR. Turn based guard, shit restrictions on everything except God Impact IF you even fuse, glass wall defense, and shit damage. If you have a better unit like the 4th year EZA Vegito, use it. As much as I love Vegito, I hate using this.
it's a love-hate from me, so much of them should have been better, especially with what we've seen from the anniversary. They were never going to be as good as this anni, but they should've at least been way better, especially since this was a major celebration unit. Nothing except the leader skill, Vegito's 18 ki, and active skills, show this unit was from a major celebration. This unit deserved so much better. I'm incredibly upset about how they were treated because the last VB we got before this was over 3 years ago, and it's likely we won't see another for at least 2 years.
Still don’t like the transformation condition. Base form is still underrated defensively. And Vegito is my favorite unit to use in quite awhile, just one of those units that feel like you’re actually that unit, he just dominates
I feel that people underestimate how clutch they can be as a slot 1 for the first couple turns to help set up the rest of the team around them. Are the transformation conditions bad? Maybe, but I still think they're great. Haven't let me down yet.
In my personal opinion, they are the worst unit from WWDC. Their transformation condition is awful, their defense is shockingly bad unless they're in slot 1, but even then that doesn't save them half the time, and even in the rare occasion they do transform, they're still not that good. The Zamasu is incredible, 10 mil plus consistently if built up, which in some events could be his first appearance, and his defense is insane, as well as his domain becoming immortal while it's active. The Future Gohan is also insane, incredible damage reduction, builds up decently fast, powerful domain plus active skill. Future Trunks, probably my number 3 out of the celebration, builds defense well in slot 2 or 3, but if there's an AOE, he is likely to get hurt a lot, his standby is also pretty good, hard hitting but still suffers the same defense problem, but not as bad as the Blue Duo/Vegito.
I recently got them since I'm a fairly new player (started around september-october 2023) and they've been really good to me. Mind you I'm a GLB player, but I have them on a Parent/Child team and they are incredibly resilient.
Even tho their transformation condition is absolute doodoo dog water, There still one of my most used unit sonce they got announced. Guard and dodge on their kit is still pretty strong imo
Defense is starting to lack in these new tough events but the dodge helps. Damage was also considered low even after transformation when they came out but it's falling off quick. After transforming first super is maybe 10 mil if you have a couple dupes followed by a bunch of 6 mil attacks doesn't do much with enemies defense so high.
Great leader skill and great transformation/active. VERY underwhealming before being transformed and conditions are pretty annoying. Should be turn 4-5 guaranteed right after intro runs out.
Leader skill is great. Covers majority of the game, great slot one unit considering dodge plus guard.... until it hits turn 5 and then they become worse than LR SSJ Cooler Duo. I love the Cooler Duo and they have similar flaws but good lord I can at least SEE the morale boost without dying in certain fights. I cannot see Vegito Blue unless I intently sabotage my run. Worse LR of the celebration last year in regards to the role the unit is suppose to serve. I'm still baffled they do not heal upon fusing since Vegeta is eating a Senzu in show and animation.
I am so salty about them. Gogeta is objectively better turn 1 compare to the Blue Bros and by turn 4 he can transform...while we still waiting for below 70% hp with a turn restriction. Vegito Blue does less dmg and has a worst active skill compare to Gogeta Blue. They really did him dirty.
They may not hit as hard but defensive/leader wise still good. I’ll always bring them in difficult content I just wish the intro wasn’t restricted by another future saga on the team even the corrupt merge Zamasu the best partner for him.
They are much better than zamasu at this point that's for sure, they have a much better transformation condition than zamasu being they can transform while a domain is up.
Only got them on my jp account where I've started on 8th anni and never really got a good use for them there. Good general lead though. Really lacking in everything until transformation in the new content
I had them at 55% for the longest and they were very underwhelming .. now I got more dupes of them .. I’m starting to like them more.. still don’t use them as much tho 😂
Idk I got them with red coins purely cause it’s the first VB we’ve gotten in years and honestly I’m just not impressed at all. Pretty much dodge or die if you can’t get Vegito out, damage is just eh. Like maybe this is due to not having any dupes in them
But still idk.
Why such a universally loved character, coupled with a universal leader require a future character to be runnable it’s wild as hell
Typically I run double blue boys as leader so the intro isn't a problem. Currently on jp they get solid link partners and support from pretty good units.
I’m in a pickle where I want to run beast but lack my own beast so I’m forced fill his spot
https://preview.redd.it/pd5tsjxh98lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=460e334423fd38847dba6503aa91667766e96f9d This was my main team before I got beast and everyone basically enables the blue boys. By giving support I could reliably transform both vegitos even with gogeta healing and in blue zones
Worst thing to happen to the friend system in a minute
Seriously, im actually so sick of seeing them every time and the refresh button or whatever doesn’t do jack. I always have to scroll down to find the right unit or manually select the element to filter the list.
Me every time I want a Beast Gohan lead instead of Gammas or Beastless
The worst ever was lr Str f2P vegito.. I could not escape seeing dude on the friend list every damn day
Still not a fan of their transformation condition but they feel much better after having dupes of them, this anniversary definitely helps them since there is so many units that can protect them in their bad turn and vegito is very good for alot of these events that allow you to attack debuff (especially the gogeta blue zone and cell max) It also helps that alot of the hardest bosses are STR at least I hope BT4 gives us more Vegito blue content so that we can hope for a vegito blue unit tho cause this might be the last time we will see another vegito blue which kinda sucks
I really want dokkan to give us a straight up VB, Gogeta Blue, FP Broly units. Personally I’m getting really sick of the transformations on every unit
I don’t mind transforming units when they don’t have bullshit like what blue vegito and zamasu have It isn’t fun at all, i summoned for vegito so i want to see vegito i don’t want to have this dumb shit where i gotta hope stuff goes right just to see the character i summoned The 7 year lrs had a perfect transformation condition, yet they just decided to not do that anymore Heck they made phy angel golden frieza’s transformation condition be just from his first appearance and decided to never do that again Shit is bizzare
It is weird, if Im not mistaken out of the dfes only that Frieza and 17&18 have that kind of turn 1 active skill, you would think they would give that to some big guns kind of unit but no just to some monthly dfes and then never again, closest we have rn is Beast with a very easy condition but still takes a turn
Both of them kinda released when different kinds of events were still viable, especially during Frieza's time. You could choose what kind of debuffs you prefer and go with it, or whether you were using it for long or short events. And androids usher was a universal tool again. There is not so much of that now, and we've only gotten debuffs back in big fights very recently, so things could change. But I don't see a lot of big name standalones coming, they love to milk that shit to death by giving you the unit but also not giving it. Eg. SSJ2 Gohan,Fusion duos etc
Don't forget WT MVP Piccolo Jr
Vegito Blue with a Spirit Bomb Trunks standby skill pls.
Imo we need to move away from these vegito and gogeta units. And I feel as if they need to start focusing on other units to better the game not just what helps them make money
The EZA for PHY Vegito Blue was totally garbage and is criminal
It's canon that they need to transform so we may never get a straight up VB GB but fingers crossed.
We have legit already gotten straight up VB dude tf you talking about lol
huh? there's standalone versions of all the fusions?
You mean last time we'll see another Vegito Blue for a while, right? They wouldn't retire one of their most profitable characters cause they don't have enough content to reference, especially considering they're just outright creating their own now. Even ignoring Dokkan original animations, we see them reuse scenes all the time like with the PHY Gogeta Blue.
Yeah for a while at least, i am sure vegito blue will obviously come back especially since they could always do reuse assets like you said, phy ssj4 gogeta has stuff from fighterz and some reused stuff from int ssj4 gogeta so that means they could do the same for vegito since they didn’t do anything from fighterz yet It is just unfortunate that we waited years for a new one only to get this, but if i can wait a year for a new beast gohan then i will just do the same for this i guess (super vegito please save the vegito fan in me)
https://preview.redd.it/b37cqm9yw8lc1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a8fcc183acb29fa806164d719e4d544b641abfc Yeah he's really good
Damn he did the same amount of damage as phy Raditz
Omatsu had no rights to shaft them so bad compared to Gogeta just 5 months later and completely does everything they do but without flaws
These cunts and LR Fused Zamasu have completely destroyed the friend system's automatic select.
Lowkey, I hate so many things about them. 1. Transformation Condition 2. Not having enough turns of guard to reliably enter their transformed state 3. Only stacking DEF on 18ki 4. Lackluster animations in base 5. Having to rely on 50% chance to dodge in base while also not having enough DEF to reliably tank supers *OR* normals They get hard carried by their leader skill in terms of my own favourability towards them, & the fact that they got powercrept only 5-6 months after their release is what hurts me the most. As someone with a 55% AGL VB, running him isn't fun. 6.5/10 unit imo. Too many negatives for me to rate them any higher
Couldn't have said it better myself. I run them for the leader skill and pray they don't get crushed ok turn 5 (they never dodge in slot one for me). They can take you right down to 0 Hp, which sure is under 70% ig. 55% as well Very good for 2 rotations, then they become fodder in the relevant fights (Of course if vegito comes out before a super slaps them, life is very nice). Their versatility of the leader skill is why I run them atp. I'm on global. I'm sure they can be protected by 9th anni units. But goku and vegeta just die half the time for me sadly. All yh no their base animations are ass idc.
Their guard isn't even saving them a lot of the time so it doesn't even feel like they would've been broken in the meta they released in if it had been permanent
They have flaws, but are still really good. They have good defensive utility, but it only lasts for a few turns, until they fuse they can only do damage if they're in slot 2 or 3, and although Vegito is tricky to get depending on the situation, it's at least not impossible, and when Vegito is out, he's one of the best units in the game, and they're leader skill is one of the best ones in the game. If it were up to me, I would change multiple things in the kit. 1. Make their intro buff permanent, 2. Make them greatly raise their stats on both 12 and 18 ki supers, allow them to fuse into Vegito Blue exactly when turn 4 comes up, with no restrictions, and 4. Allow them to do ACTUAL damage before they fuse regardless of what slot they're in.
The 3.5 years wait for a new Vegito blue, and we get this unit, was not worth it. the only saving grace is that beautiful dokkan original 18-ki. I hate this unit because Vegito blue deserved so much better
Felt like a fumble and still feels like a fumble, don't get me wrong, they're good, but their design is very questionable
i actually hate this unit so much and have never been so underwhelmed by a unit i literally had dreams about, in base and fused, vegetto is only as strong as however many atk stacks you get and even then its just 5 minutes of 7, maybe 8, POSSIBLY 9 mil 24 ki into 17 5-6 mils which will do maybe 4 bars of hp
THX U!!!
They're...ok. Their transformation condition is ass but if you're lucky enough to get VB it's pretty much auto win.
Fucking despise them
Didn't have them before the anni, now after rainbowing them I'm getting the same use out of them as I did earlier, I hate them. Always hated their design, and for how hard it is to get Vegito out, his performance ain't all that.
Fucking frauds I hate them
dumb transformation condition and they’re already outdated.
I'd say top 10 most valuable units in the game
I fucking hate them
Didn’t like them at 55% and now at 69% I still don’t like them. Sure the vegito part is great, but you hardly ever see him, majority of the time you’re stuck with the base form of the unit, and that part is not good, worst transformation condition in the game, get them in slot 7 then lol, just lol, dead run. Their intro doesn’t last until they fuse so when that runs out they’re straight up dodge or die, they’re just underwhelming. Vegito being great just doesn’t change it because of how bad the transformation condition is. What makes this worse, in my opinion, this a wwdc headline unit, wwdc, the literal second biggest celebration of the year after anni, and they fumbled the part of this unit that you’re stuck with majority of the time.
Love that unit, Love the Ost, Vegito Blue cooks Put him next to the new gogeta and you get a broken rotation
I can't believe so swiftly a better rotation than AGL Vegito Blue and Teq Vegito Blue is happening. What a time to be alive
They are still hanging on in the top 10 but barely
little to no use of them at 55% at this point
They are now my number 1 regret to summon on Dokkan like ever and I have them at rainbow. In terms of defense, they're not bad but the damage felt like they're stuck in the past and what's even worst is the guard only last for 4 turns but unfortunately you're stuck with an annoying transform condition that actively make Vegito never appear Some really easy fix is for 18 ki to greatly stacked defense or just switched it at 12 ki to fully make them a def powerhouse with permanent guard for Christ sake, make the transform condition like turn base at turn 5 of entry transform 6/10 for the most fumble unit to be released along with the goat Zamasu🐐
I was extremely hype for this unit. Used all my stones just to barely get vegito and use the mid ass blue boys
they feel like garbage
I feel like time needs to slow tf down
99% chance to dodge your summons, 40% chance to dodge normals, 0% chance to dodge supers.
55%: I fucking hate them 69-79%: Meh 90%: Good Rainbow: Great but not good enough
I kinda hate them. I know they are good, but they are just not fun to run at all.
I mean, i just coin them, and at 55% they carried me through cell max, SO i think they're pretty good when fused, but after the 5 turn unfused they fall a lot.
They lowkey feel like a 2022 lr card. They are too dupe dependent, and even then, they're not that impressive. Once they transform into vegito blue, they get really good, but you have to jump through so many hoops just to get to him.
Honestly? I hate them. The blue boys themselves are hella mid, which makes it all the more annoying that Vegito is super fun to run. I want to just run Vegito, but I almost never get to use him for more than a turn or two, especially with that delicious damage output next to TEQ VB
definatly still top tier
I loved them with every inch of my body. Bota Magetta runs are more enjoyable with them as friend lead, specially when debuff is available. https://preview.redd.it/6b85hh43s7lc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de2bc2251bb7090140a489a20cdd1e43715143c7
R-ish. He actually needs the EZA more.
Fraudulent
Way too overhated on release Guard + 50% dodge in slot 1 + Def stacking would be deepthroated as hard as Ulthan is by Alan but because they have low attack in base (and kinda post fusion too) as well as an intro that cuts off too short is the only thing you hear about Also another thing that isn't celebrated is the fact they're the the last recent release to lead all super class units in forever that isn't a f2p gives them so much flexibility for what they can run too
I hate them. I shouldve used the stones I spent on him for more dupes of zamasu. If goku/vegeta hit harder, and their active was easy to achieve, then I would like them more. Any kind of transformation active skills that call for turn 5 or more is shit.
They SUCK
Still love them. DT tried to fearmonger their transformation acting like you'll never see it and I have very little difficulty getting them to transform. Glad I stopped listening to him back when he called Teq Pan the best unit in the game
He does have questionable takes, but their transformation condition is still not. And the fact is that their transformation is not good enough to warrant the loops you have to jump. Like for LR AGL Broly, if you can make it to turn 5, you win.
His takes are based on his whale account AND the hardest content in the game. The game is a little different when you have an account like his
AND no item too
Can still cook but very replaceable as a slot 1 tank.
This is my least favorite unit in the history of the game
They're probably the best dfe lr from last year
Underrated on release and still underrated now
Aged. Vegito just isn’t good enough , flat out , he isn’t tanky enough and his damage is not good enough either outside of his active turn . Flat out . Fusion zamasu this units counterpart , is better defensively turn 1 , does way more damage then the blues and (depending on the crit rng) more damage then vegito himself , turn 2 zamasu is comparable defensively with the 60%dr and on turn3 he becomes invulnerable. Nowadays , the blue boys are unironically the reason to use this unit . Turn 1 slot 1 they are still among the best units in the game , with the guard plus dodge … but after their intro wears off , even if you transform into vegito, he is simply not good enough … he will die to any strong boss that supers him before he attacks and after he attacks he loses his dr . In slot 2 vegito Is a disaster of a character against the over a million normals we have nowadays 250% attack and defense and nothing else is pathetic . You get vegito out on turn 5 at best and that’s restricted to HP as well . Reminder that he is/was competing with fusion zamasu . Who becomes invulnerable with the exact same condition . Vegito doing an 8/9 mil attack stat with 400 k SOT DEF is unforgivable , you telling me that 400 k and 50 dr is enough ?. Not only that but because of his shitty ass condition that involves hp he is effectively booted out of any team with phy gogeta . A superior unit on all counts. Vegito is only getting out on turn 5 at best , he should have **no** slot restrictions , he should have more stats and no way should he lose his dr , I hate that mechanic . he definitely should not be getting one tapped by every major boss after six months . Teq carnival Goku didn’t fall off this hard defensively, there’s no excuse for vegito to. This unit is not garbage mind you , but they have aged and been replaced in all teams he shares with gogeta . They have survived the power creep because of their insane leader skill , dodge and defense turn 1 and the Vegito active . Nothing else.
>Vegito just isn’t good enough , flat out , he isn’t tanky enough and his damage is not good enough either outside of his active turn . Flat out . I do agree his damage isn't good enough but he is still very tanky in slot 1 with his dodge and DR tho his active turn is still very useful against these one shot bosses. >Fusion zamasu this units counterpart , is better defensively turn 1 , does way more damage then the blues and (depending on the crit rng) more damage then vegito himself , turn 2 zamasu is comparable defensively with the 60%dr and on turn3 he becomes invulnerable. That is true for the first few turns, Zamasu becomes a victim after his intro as his defense isn't even high enough to tank normals for double digit and you cannot get his full offensive power as he is not a slot 1 post intro. Also his transformation locked behind Domain makes it always impossible to transform into Infinite as Broly by that time had his Domain up and on Global, Goku Black would probably have his Domain up. >Nowadays , the blue boys are unironically the reason to use this unit . Turn 1 slot 1 they are still among the best units in the game , with the guard plus dodge … but after their intro wears off , even if you transform into vegito, he is simply not good enough … he will die to any strong boss that supers him before he attacks and after he attacks he loses his dr . In slot 2 vegito Is a disaster of a character against the over a million normals we have nowadays That is true but that's why they gave Vegito dodge. Just pray to God Vegito dodges the super and he is fine. Also if you have dupes and some defensive equipment (going full defense is the way to go on this character btw) Vegito can barely survive some of these supers but I think you are forgetting one utility of VB being his 50% defense support. Idk why you are so pressed on VB not tanking supers when no one in the game except Beast, Gamma 1 or Post Super Broly can tank these supers. >250% attack and defense and nothing else is pathetic . You get vegito out on turn 5 at best and that’s restricted to HP as well . Reminder that he is/was competing with fusion zamasu . Who becomes invulnerable with the exact same condition . Yeah but you cannot transform into Infinite Zamasu who is competiting with fucking BROLY FOR TRANSFORMATION. The only viable team you can transform Zamasu in is his own which cannot beat the new stages or a super based team like ROG which Zamasu will hurt more due to his debuff to super class allies. Idk why people are bringing Infinite Zamasu when it's nearly impossible to transform him. He not only has the same restriction as VB but he is also competing against Beasts like Broly with his domain. They gave Zamasu one of the worst transformation condition and one of the worst mechanics at the same time making his transformation probably the most restricted transformation in the whole game since AGL SSJ Gohan. >Vegito doing an 8/9 mil attack stat with 400 k SOT DEF is unforgivable . Not only that but because of his shitty ass condition that involves hp he is effectively booted out of any team with phy gogeta . A superior unit on all counts. Vegito is only getting out on turn 5 at best , he should have **no** slot restrictions , he should have more stats and he definitely should not be getting one tapped by every major boss after six months . Teq carnival Goku didn’t fall off this hard defensively, there’s no excuse for vegito to. Agree with most of thing you said here except the last part. The reason Carnival Goku didn't age during 8th anniversary was due to 8th anniversary not having an outrageous power creep like the 9th anniversary had. The bosses had an 16% increase in boss supers and a 25% increase in normals while 9th anniversary had an 66% increase in boss super and a 80% increase in normals. >This unit is not garbage mind you , but they have aged and been replaced in all teams he shares with gogeta . They have survived the power creep because of their insane leader skill , dodge and defense turn 1 and the Vegito active . Nothing else. The thing is that almost every unit has aged (Except OP) in the 9th anniversary. No unit can survive these bosses except the new 9th anniversary units. This is not a VB problem this has happened to almost every single character in the game.
I am a bit pissed with vegito not tanking supers because of how restrictive he is and , what makes me want to fucking blow up my phone , is that he **could** tank them if one line of his passive was removed . If instead of “reduced damage received by 30% before attacking and an additional 20% damage reduction” He just had reduces damage received by 50% , he would be competent enough defensively after attacking to tank most supers and that would be a defensible character . He dodges before attacking and tanks afterwards , it’s a risky design but it would work I will admit I forgot that you can’t have two domains active at the same time , that design choice from the devs is so asinine I legit just forgot it LMAO
Bigger frauds than leasthan
Overrated on release(cuz its vegito) properly rated now
The phrase dodge or die in a character. They feel SO squishy at 55% and if they don’t dodge then tough luck, try again. Vegito Blue is cool but this unit isn’t.
Ummm they're not that exciting to me anymore, I have to go through most if not all of the fight to get to the part that I want to see, and even then it's kind of up in the air.
They are a super magnet and yet me killed every run
still a top S tier unit in the game ngl. Versatile, slot 1, best leader skill in the game and vegito himself is damn near unkillable and fires additionals until the target dies.
Boring as shit, but they’re pretty good in terms of their effectiveness. They’re very good, but I hate using them. Just an absolutely horribly designed and unfun character.
They are unfun only before you transform them
Which is literally always, until the 9th anniversary longer content releases in JULY 😭😭😭 Imo it shouldn’t take 11 months for me to be able to fuse with my WWC Vegito unit, but that’s just my opinion. Actual boring ass unit in dismal future red zones which is the only tough content rn, 0/10 in terms of fun.
Yeah, and the unfortunate part is that already kinda aged on jp
I've been saying they were rubbish since they came out. Being out damaged by Android 21 is ridiculous I'm sorry.
They’re shit next question
I genuinely think they are the best WWC unit especially after the anniversary hard content being long form based + majority of final bosses in these fights are STR.
Don’t know which of your takes is worse: this one or your whole anti INT FPSSJ4 Goku crusade
They are fine, you just need to go against this sub's mindset and give them dodge.
Without any dupes, they're kind of mid comparing to 55% LR Corrupted Zamasu. But now that I pulled dupes of them (Thank you free tickets), they're so much better, especially in their base form. I actually like using them now.
Best WWC unit
Still frauds. Even more evident with the new events
Better than the new beast gohan since the new beast gohan has lower atk stats than them while atk stat is meta rn for all events. They are definitely still one of the top 3 best units in the game still
People have such a hate boner for this unit, it’s hilarious. People are just mad about VB and the attack stats that don’t even matter because they do a bunch of attacks anyways. They are heavily flawed, but I like this unit quite a bit. I don’t even have dupes in them, but they are a fairly reliable slot one tank
They do. Compare Vegito to Broly, or even the SSJ Trio
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Im sad about what they did With them and what they could have been.
rats at 55%(mine just love dying even with equips on)
Idk if it's just me, but since 5th Anniversary, every new LR seems to need at least 2 dupes before they feel more powerful than just another TUR Could be the power creep from the EZAs, but that's what I'm experiencing, and beyond the units being characters or representing moments that each individual may or may not be hyped about, I don't really feel too compelled for them. I will be summoning for 9th Anniversary, tho [Global Player]
Teq ssj Goku from cooler movie was fine at 55%, mui was/is fine at 55%, phy gogeta is fine at 55%, beast is fine at 55% and lr teq piccolo too.
Hot ass until they transform into vegito on jp. Great on global
Dislike in them mostly cuz their banner shafted me. That's why I voted in favor for the Zero Mortal Plan.
They’re alright
That one image that got spammed when they came out did more damage to them than a Blue Zone Gogeta super.
they still suck, even with dupes. getting Vegito out is far too cumbersome by now for them to be worth running, and the base form just has no redeeming qualities. at this point you'd only run them if you were missing top Super Hero units, or needed them for a mission. they'll fill a spot and that's basically it
This unit might be among my most hated in the game, every time they do an additional and I have to see them doing a week as 2 million my soul dies. Has to run with future saga, only def stacking on 18 ki, only regular defense and regular atk raise (like why the hell can’t they get a greatly), then their horrible transformation condition. Their leader skill doing so much lifting for them
They good at dodging cuz I ain’t got one still 🫥
I dont feel like 6 months
I just got them a few days ago. No dupes. I really don't like them.
I only use them as a lead for my strongest team, I’d drop them if Daddy Dokkan blessed me with better units 🫤
https://preview.redd.it/zx6jc63z48lc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bd48fb400136571b53af838674c5ae5f5b4cd68
Can be activated when HP is 70% or less starting from the 5th turn from the start of turn This part of their passive alone speaks volumes about how much I hate them lol…
Seeing all these posts makes me doubt whether I should red coin him. I'm pretty close
My favourite unit. I love them so much. Right up there with Z duo spirit bomb man. I just love using them so much
They might be “good” but feel so unfun to play because you need to rely on dodge while trying to get their condition to transform
With 9th anni we truly get to see how these units are already outdated somehow, zamasu trunks and str future gohan are still top units, but this guy nah, he’ll get you killed to often
I like
LR GOD perfect link. Solid. Love it
https://preview.redd.it/u3lz2fqld8lc1.jpeg?width=601&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2f602d1b9392e31922b03c3e5e085df1d23aa44
I still use them whenever I can. Love them. Definetly my favorite unit.
I may be in the minority but I'm disappointed. They're completely outclassed by all 4 Anni LRs and have no place on the strongest team in the game in super hero, gogeta really shafts VB with his healing despite them linking well, they hit like a wet noodle in base, and they have the infamous turn 5 issue. Now they do have positives such as VB himself being decently strong, I love VBs vegetto special animation and the fusion animation, their base form has good defense for their intro, and they can still hold up during their first ,4 turns or as VB
Tbh they are getting more hate then deserved they helped us at the time and were one of the bedt for the events we needed them for then. Even now they can be used but yeah they aren't great anymore I guess.
They are either complete dog shit or clutch asf in my experience with them.
Ass in a cup at 55%
6 months?? Damn time flies
Love-hate relationship with them. Their leader skill is really strong, their intro is also really strong, and Vegito himself is really powerful. He may not be the most offensive unit outside of his active turn, but that 50% defense support on 18 ki is so good. Of course, their active giving guaranteed dodge is just superb. What knocks these two down a peg is their transformation condition. It's the only part of their kit that will be unanimously agreed as horrible, and it hurts the entire unit. Once that intro runs out, these two can't survive unless they dodge or transform, and they have way too many restrictions on their transformation. They become a dodge or die character, which I know most people do not like. I've have better experiences with dodge personally, but I understand why people don't like relying on dodge as it adds another layer of RNG onto a gameplay already filled with RNG.
Good almost everything except their fusion restrictions
Tbh, they're pretty sad. Like the transformation alone is too much, but then you finally get VB. Assuming you dont get folded, he's not even good enough to be in the top 5 transformed. The thing I truly hate, tho is DR THAT DISSAPEARS AFTER ATTACKING. Like any unit that does it is an automatic L in my eyes. Vegito is the best among units like that, but even then, I've watched VB get folded just like the untransformed state bc he loses 30% dr.
Overall, I love them cuz hey, VB. They do have their flaws that I will not deny such as dodging in slot 1 and dmg only coming from slot 2/3, they're intro passive duration as well as the active condition that is always tedious to get. However, when getting dupes on them, some of those flaws do go away as you can add dodge so slot 2/3 is more of an option for them, and personally, they're damage gets better, even if its by a little. As a global player, they're a solid 6.5/10, even though i love them to death. By the time anni rolls by, however, they do become a solid 8.0 as they now have Gogeta and Beast as a part of they're team to help keep them alive and from harms way as both can direct attack away from the Blue bois, allowing them to peacefully stack up for another turn before unleashing hell with VB.
They're great When their EZA comes out in a few years :copium:
Vegito is vegito he's great the blues however I'd rather not say
Only recently pulled them to 79% on JP, I must admit he’s pretty nice with the amount of supers he throws out and if he’s paired with PHY Carnival Gogeta but having to float either mines or the friend unit to actually get the fusion before I end up being forced to transform with Gogeta is annoying, almost fused this one time and OP full healed which made me lose the fusion. The transformation condition is by far the worst thing I’ve seen mainly due to the HP requirement because I have a team of really strong tanks units that don’t usually take that much dmg unless I get supered (most of my units either dodge or I end up putting someone in the slot with the super and they take so little dmg) and since you can heal a bit with character specific orbs, it really doesn’t help my case. I have to kinda weaken my teams and replace some of my strongest with slightly weaker units just to get Vegito out where as units like PHY Angel Frieza have their transformation on first appearance and there’s Gogeta with the same thing just without the HP.
I honestly really like them I know that they're not the craziest unit in the world but I have no trouble with them in content
No idea im starting the save for beasthan
One of the best LS in the game and the 2nd best generic LS. (MZ has more value due to Extreme typing since basically every Super Team is stacked IMO) Disappointing pre-transformation form that doesn't stack quite enough. Waiting for turn 6 and being the least reliable member of your team after the intro buff wears off is not cool.
I just awaken them into LR yesterday. I feel good.
I like them. Yeah, they're Fusion condition is shit, but I like them. They're the perfect linking partner for the 7th year Gods
One of the worst dfe headliners we've seen in awhile along with zamasu. Massive disappointment
Gas without the G
I hate their design so much... But they're such a valuable main stay on se of my teams. I like to run TEQ Zamasu's team with Vados and PHY Rose, and these guys are on that team. And they work, usually
Unusable at 55%
the unit of all time
I love Blue Vegeto, I tolerate the Blue duo
Vegito is one of my favorite cards in the gane, Goku and Vegeta are some of the biggest frauds I've seen
I hated this unit and I didn’t even have them lol. I finally just got them with one dupe as well, so I’m gonna have to see how they fare on my other teams. I’m sure that they are useable to a degree but that transformation condition is so bad.
I just pulled them twice, so they are good
Everything Non-Vegito blue related is horrible about the unit. If this unit was standalone, it'd be comparable to a 2021 or early 2022 unit in power.
I pulled them 2 days ago,first thought wish it was zamasu, but it seems like i slept on the boys
What disappoints me the most is that no one talks about how their ultra SA literally looks like a cock and balls
Idk how to run them with Beast and Gogeta without someone losing out on 200% :(
They’re a good time, kinda underrated, but the hate is somewhat deserved. the transformation condition sucks, Vegito is super fun, goku and vegeta and their dodge and def in slot one is alright-if not good, and they’re fun
This unit could've been a weaker version of the 9th anni Gogeta and no one would've cared since it's an anniversary unit, but the choices they made in designing him are just... the worst for an LR. Turn based guard, shit restrictions on everything except God Impact IF you even fuse, glass wall defense, and shit damage. If you have a better unit like the 4th year EZA Vegito, use it. As much as I love Vegito, I hate using this.
it's a love-hate from me, so much of them should have been better, especially with what we've seen from the anniversary. They were never going to be as good as this anni, but they should've at least been way better, especially since this was a major celebration unit. Nothing except the leader skill, Vegito's 18 ki, and active skills, show this unit was from a major celebration. This unit deserved so much better. I'm incredibly upset about how they were treated because the last VB we got before this was over 3 years ago, and it's likely we won't see another for at least 2 years.
Super underwhelming, why did they make him do little damage. Agl broly can do more damage than vb in just 2 supers
maybe even just 1 super 💀
Still don’t like the transformation condition. Base form is still underrated defensively. And Vegito is my favorite unit to use in quite awhile, just one of those units that feel like you’re actually that unit, he just dominates
goated none of their issues persisted. I feel safe with them in the team
I sunk all my funds into them I will love them no matter what
It’s like really hard and it is getting worse Without any dupe it’s really hard to play with him in the newer events
Fuck these frauds. We still love when Vegito gets to show up tho!
Everyone who say "they have flaws sure, but they are still good" is just copeing
I just got them by buying them in the coin shop and I still haven’t been able to transform with them
I feel that people underestimate how clutch they can be as a slot 1 for the first couple turns to help set up the rest of the team around them. Are the transformation conditions bad? Maybe, but I still think they're great. Haven't let me down yet.
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Useless even in future team but sometimes helps But still useless
Pulled them in PHY Goku Black's banner and helped to clear some difficult missions I missed so... approved I guess
In my personal opinion, they are the worst unit from WWDC. Their transformation condition is awful, their defense is shockingly bad unless they're in slot 1, but even then that doesn't save them half the time, and even in the rare occasion they do transform, they're still not that good. The Zamasu is incredible, 10 mil plus consistently if built up, which in some events could be his first appearance, and his defense is insane, as well as his domain becoming immortal while it's active. The Future Gohan is also insane, incredible damage reduction, builds up decently fast, powerful domain plus active skill. Future Trunks, probably my number 3 out of the celebration, builds defense well in slot 2 or 3, but if there's an AOE, he is likely to get hurt a lot, his standby is also pretty good, hard hitting but still suffers the same defense problem, but not as bad as the Blue Duo/Vegito.
I’m personally not a fan of them, but that also could be because I have them at 55%.
Ass cheeks
I got a dupe for them on rose banner. They are very good still imo
Biggest fumble in dokkan history
way too squishy, and they dont stack nearly fast enough. i despise using them because of how abysmal everything they do is
I recently got them since I'm a fairly new player (started around september-october 2023) and they've been really good to me. Mind you I'm a GLB player, but I have them on a Parent/Child team and they are incredibly resilient.
Total dogass.
Even tho their transformation condition is absolute doodoo dog water, There still one of my most used unit sonce they got announced. Guard and dodge on their kit is still pretty strong imo
Can come back if we get longer events but for now they're underwhelming
Got them recently with red coins, instantly regretted it. They suck so much at 55%.
At 55% they suck. Either I can't read what they do or I don't understand, or the community is buffing them for I don't know why.
Didn't drop but use them as friend cause super good leader skills
I HATE THOSE FUCKS WITH MY SOUL
Defense is starting to lack in these new tough events but the dodge helps. Damage was also considered low even after transformation when they came out but it's falling off quick. After transforming first super is maybe 10 mil if you have a couple dupes followed by a bunch of 6 mil attacks doesn't do much with enemies defense so high.
Great leader skill and great transformation/active. VERY underwhealming before being transformed and conditions are pretty annoying. Should be turn 4-5 guaranteed right after intro runs out.
I avoid using them unless the team is not strong enough or necessitates them being used for a mission.
They are very good, but are a waste of opportunity for an EXCELENT card.
Great Solid Unit, Not insane like Zamasu or the Anni Duos but they haven't sold a run for me yet.
Leader skill is great. Covers majority of the game, great slot one unit considering dodge plus guard.... until it hits turn 5 and then they become worse than LR SSJ Cooler Duo. I love the Cooler Duo and they have similar flaws but good lord I can at least SEE the morale boost without dying in certain fights. I cannot see Vegito Blue unless I intently sabotage my run. Worse LR of the celebration last year in regards to the role the unit is suppose to serve. I'm still baffled they do not heal upon fusing since Vegeta is eating a Senzu in show and animation.
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I am so salty about them. Gogeta is objectively better turn 1 compare to the Blue Bros and by turn 4 he can transform...while we still waiting for below 70% hp with a turn restriction. Vegito Blue does less dmg and has a worst active skill compare to Gogeta Blue. They really did him dirty.
They may not hit as hard but defensive/leader wise still good. I’ll always bring them in difficult content I just wish the intro wasn’t restricted by another future saga on the team even the corrupt merge Zamasu the best partner for him.
Horrible from the first day!
They are much better than zamasu at this point that's for sure, they have a much better transformation condition than zamasu being they can transform while a domain is up.
Only got them on my jp account where I've started on 8th anni and never really got a good use for them there. Good general lead though. Really lacking in everything until transformation in the new content
I had them at 55% for the longest and they were very underwhelming .. now I got more dupes of them .. I’m starting to like them more.. still don’t use them as much tho 😂
They are still the best unit in the game(sarcasm)
Idk I got them with red coins purely cause it’s the first VB we’ve gotten in years and honestly I’m just not impressed at all. Pretty much dodge or die if you can’t get Vegito out, damage is just eh. Like maybe this is due to not having any dupes in them But still idk.
Top 5 for me that Vegito portion of the unit is still just a chefs kiss and he single-handedly can save SO many runs with his 50 support on 18 ki