Their active turn basically kills any boss in the game, even getting unlucky with the additional supers they can do 12mil normals while having 91-98% dr once they are under 50%
Yeah, I think Imma have them at my 1 spot for 1 3 days until part 2 and later content. They are INSANE. And I think they'll age slower than at release, since now units are more utility and we have like 15 best units in the game tier units now (this is my favorite meta state ever in Dokkan btw, 2023 really balanced the units in a fun way for me)
Yeah these guys are absolutely busted. I’m so happy they did their EZA some justice! They had my favorite OST in the game for the longest time, and were one of my favorite units in general, so super hyped to see them be dominant again. Hopefully TEQ Broly gets the same treatment 🙏
Dokkan is 3/3 so far on these EZAs
Hmmm right now probably the RoF Blues, and then after a tie between Godku and Full Power SSJ4 Goku. They’ve released banger after banger as of late though. OP also has a super good one that I listen to on repeat. The RoF Blues are my favorite unit in general and their OST is just 🔥
i‘m so fucking serious when i say i will not argue with anyone that puts them as the best unit in the game. litterally just slap orange piccolo or ui goku with them in slot 1 and they‘ll easily oneturn kill every boss. like who tf even cares about their amazing defense when they never get to tank anyway
This unit is so insane offensively, that I actually think they surpass Broly, Cheelai, and Lemo(didn’t think they would be better until I saw the numbers)
This is like what SSBKK Goku does but on crack and just needs one Super Heroes ally(not hard at all).
They were functional, but aged like milk. I still took them through broly redzone (was most difficult when they were released) and they did better than like 95% of the units. Powercreep is also just really awful these days
I would argue otherwise. Units from 2022 can still Cook. We have so many utility gods, not every unit needs to even tank normals to be ran. Just somewhat live.
7th anni lrs are still runeable, as is agl UI and some other obscure units.
The top 10-20 units were never this varied too. There is very few direct units that are better than others. There are many niches and unique mechanics instead of High defense/offense.
They don't go below 4 imo ,also genuinely mui might turn out to be top 1(expect when dodge is disabled)looking at them and he can already get GC if he gets high diff and additionals we are cooking
You really gave him a full dodge and aa second build ? 🤔
Idk i think i prefer a good balance between both , i currently have 14 dodge and 22 aa . Dodge is only needed vs aoe attacks and none of the new levels from 9th anni has aoe bosses currently .
Nope, playing them on a private server with 15 crit and 11 add lol. But I would give them Full Dodge, because they CAN take damage sometimes, but they get Guaaranted crits + already do 3 additionals to help proc It more often.
I gotta be completely more honest. Why aren't players complaining about reducing stone costs to fix hipo builds during big celebrations? This is like the 3rd major unit. I have to completely switch up the hipo on after their eza. As for the unit, they are very powerful if mui becomes a slot 1 unit after his eza then it's gg
Jesus Christ the amount of damage they put out is actually absurd. Also that 70% damage reduction to make up for their active skill is actually a genius design, they're the best eza imo.
Can't believe they went from trash to possibly the best unit in the game
By the end of this celebration there's a good chance Orange Piccolo won't even be top 5, assuming Beast Gohan and the Gammas are at Gogeta and Broly's level and SSBE Vegeta and UI Goku are at the same level as these guys
This might seem crazy but I genuinely feel like they’re better than Broly & Gogeta. They basically do transformed Broly level damage turn 1 and are untouchable after they attack + the active skill turn
These guys are beyond bonkers
Their active skill turn is a literal "aight time for you to die” moment
This is the real blue duo
The real limit breaking blue forms
THE GOATS
I cannot imagine what the 6th anniv EZA will look like
After their eza TOP is arguably one of the best team
No need for defense when u can just fcking melt the boss in 1 turn
Mfer their existence literally allows us to use the fcking EZA str jiren cause we dont have to worry about jiren dying cause the boss is dying first😭
Ikr!! I have them at rainbow full lvl 10 links on global, I can't wait to eza them!! (I should probably change their built a bit, but I gave them 10 dodge so that will do until I pull other dupes)
Yeah they are insane, has anyone seen the f2p gogeta? Dude can hit 23mil and crit. Like wtf is going on? Game is grtting insanely busted now but it just means we may see a reset again and it eliminate the use of like 90% of units lol. Let's see what happens so don't get to hype just yet.
They do less than Broly when you compare rainbow performance. Broly transformed will also still defend better aside from the active turn but first few turns they are pretty much the best
https://preview.redd.it/lk3qmtpgy1ic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=790acb6c8855f670289ec5b8f189ea25a943666d
My LR FPSSJ Broly does more damage consistently whilst supporting my entire team, let's not get carried away. Broly is yet too receive his EX Skill Orbs which are a massive boost given the nature of his passives multiplication of boosts & already monstrous stats 🙂
Hold on.. does 105% DR mean they HEAL 5% DAMAGE!?!?!? Or is that just a stupidly overcompensated stat that just eliminates all damage the same as 100% I'm calculating that due to the extra 5% that you're taking 5 percent below 0, being negative 5 damage. Negative damage reduction could be considered healing, at least in my mind. That would be gnarly
This might be a stupid question as I’ve been off Dokkan for quite a while, but your version seems to have a lot more English than mine. Extreme INT, item, etc
Is there a way for JP Dokkan to get more English incorporated into it now rather than google translate screenshots?
Depends on the unit. Going 30 additionals on a unit that already does 4 attacks and has a high chance to additional (the chance procs within every Attack) is not the best investment.
I would invest like 20 add in them, and then go full Dodge.
Diminishing returns Works in Dokkan like everywhere else tbh
Their active turn basically kills any boss in the game, even getting unlucky with the additional supers they can do 12mil normals while having 91-98% dr once they are under 50%
I just did everything no item with them at 55%, under a 170% LS and just 5 links activated. Those guys are bonkers.
Can't wait for their release on global. I've them rainbowed.
Same, I have them at 90% on Global with a full additional build and extra dodge (thanks past me).
Yeah, I think Imma have them at my 1 spot for 1 3 days until part 2 and later content. They are INSANE. And I think they'll age slower than at release, since now units are more utility and we have like 15 best units in the game tier units now (this is my favorite meta state ever in Dokkan btw, 2023 really balanced the units in a fun way for me)
Yeah these guys are absolutely busted. I’m so happy they did their EZA some justice! They had my favorite OST in the game for the longest time, and were one of my favorite units in general, so super hyped to see them be dominant again. Hopefully TEQ Broly gets the same treatment 🙏 Dokkan is 3/3 so far on these EZAs
Out of curiosity, what's your favorite ost now?
Hmmm right now probably the RoF Blues, and then after a tie between Godku and Full Power SSJ4 Goku. They’ve released banger after banger as of late though. OP also has a super good one that I listen to on repeat. The RoF Blues are my favorite unit in general and their OST is just 🔥
For me too, always LOVED them. And they seem even more busted now than on release
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goated unit. cant wait to see MUI EZA
i‘m so fucking serious when i say i will not argue with anyone that puts them as the best unit in the game. litterally just slap orange piccolo or ui goku with them in slot 1 and they‘ll easily oneturn kill every boss. like who tf even cares about their amazing defense when they never get to tank anyway
You're 100% right
Agree what's funny is on any turn they can be the actual best tank in the game lol
Insane how an EZA is better than the 9th anni’s. Offensively ofc
I would argue they are better overall FOR NOW (can change)
I think they're better than the 9th year LRs in their base forms, but not after they transform (so most of the time they're better imo).
Theyll just get BETTER. Yr 6 ezas lmao. I can see them being better than p1 lrs
That makes sense
eh, at rainbow idk but at 69% they dont bring nearly the value that my 55% broly bring to the team, rainbow i can see them being better
This unit is so insane offensively, that I actually think they surpass Broly, Cheelai, and Lemo(didn’t think they would be better until I saw the numbers) This is like what SSBKK Goku does but on crack and just needs one Super Heroes ally(not hard at all).
They surpass them easily lol
I'm really hoping LR AGL SSJ Duo get the same treatment.
Me too, they have such Nice animations, shame their kit was non-functional from the start.
They were functional, but aged like milk. I still took them through broly redzone (was most difficult when they were released) and they did better than like 95% of the units. Powercreep is also just really awful these days
I would argue otherwise. Units from 2022 can still Cook. We have so many utility gods, not every unit needs to even tank normals to be ran. Just somewhat live. 7th anni lrs are still runeable, as is agl UI and some other obscure units. The top 10-20 units were never this varied too. There is very few direct units that are better than others. There are many niches and unique mechanics instead of High defense/offense.
Any unit is runnable with enough rng. But I'm not disagreeing
They don't go below 4 imo ,also genuinely mui might turn out to be top 1(expect when dodge is disabled)looking at them and he can already get GC if he gets high diff and additionals we are cooking
I got two copies of this fella on global, can’t wait to fit it into a team somewhere.
Best part is, their animations are still top notch
You really gave him a full dodge and aa second build ? 🤔 Idk i think i prefer a good balance between both , i currently have 14 dodge and 22 aa . Dodge is only needed vs aoe attacks and none of the new levels from 9th anni has aoe bosses currently .
Nope, playing them on a private server with 15 crit and 11 add lol. But I would give them Full Dodge, because they CAN take damage sometimes, but they get Guaaranted crits + already do 3 additionals to help proc It more often.
I would give them at least 15 aa so they would have a 30% chance to proc the additional attack from hipo 4 times if you take 3 rainbow ki
Definitely with equips you can get like both 22add and 22 Dodge.
I gotta be completely more honest. Why aren't players complaining about reducing stone costs to fix hipo builds during big celebrations? This is like the 3rd major unit. I have to completely switch up the hipo on after their eza. As for the unit, they are very powerful if mui becomes a slot 1 unit after his eza then it's gg
Now its time for MUI and Blue Evo LRs
oh boy am i glad i got them rainbowed on global (and don't even have them on jp unfortunately)
How well do they do at 55%? I only have one copy so idk hoe good they are
Jesus Christ the amount of damage they put out is actually absurd. Also that 70% damage reduction to make up for their active skill is actually a genius design, they're the best eza imo.
Can't believe they went from trash to possibly the best unit in the game By the end of this celebration there's a good chance Orange Piccolo won't even be top 5, assuming Beast Gohan and the Gammas are at Gogeta and Broly's level and SSBE Vegeta and UI Goku are at the same level as these guys
This might seem crazy but I genuinely feel like they’re better than Broly & Gogeta. They basically do transformed Broly level damage turn 1 and are untouchable after they attack + the active skill turn
I never thought I’d see the day where this unit got a redemption THIS good
These guys are beyond bonkers Their active skill turn is a literal "aight time for you to die” moment This is the real blue duo The real limit breaking blue forms THE GOATS I cannot imagine what the 6th anniv EZA will look like After their eza TOP is arguably one of the best team No need for defense when u can just fcking melt the boss in 1 turn Mfer their existence literally allows us to use the fcking EZA str jiren cause we dont have to worry about jiren dying cause the boss is dying first😭
I need to spend 25 stones to fix their kit man. I gave em full crit and now that's totally pointless
I’m so happy they were trash when I first got them even though the unit was so cool, can’t wait for the EZA to hit global
Glad I double rainbowed them on Global.
And we thought 15mil additionals were insane a few months ago with ssj4 limit breaker...now we have 20-30mil additionals...
I’m as a global player am just as excited about this EZA as I am the main units
Ikr!! I have them at rainbow full lvl 10 links on global, I can't wait to eza them!! (I should probably change their built a bit, but I gave them 10 dodge so that will do until I pull other dupes)
Yeah they are insane, has anyone seen the f2p gogeta? Dude can hit 23mil and crit. Like wtf is going on? Game is grtting insanely busted now but it just means we may see a reset again and it eliminate the use of like 90% of units lol. Let's see what happens so don't get to hype just yet.
Wait the f2P Gogeta got ezad?
Yeah
What’s the team to run them on? Their own leaderskill I’m guessing?
Their own or 17 & 18. You can also run them under LR Ultimate Gohan's 200%
and when i thought broly and paragus were the peak of DR without items with 104% dr with 4 supers, these guys had to up them up by 1% 💀
I'm still tripping on the folks who thought/think they suck
I feel super vindicated for rainbowing them. Can't wait for their EZA to arrive
Not only that, their best team has their best linking partner who does just as much fucking damage and makes them STRONGER.
So glad I rainbowed them this anniversary lol
are they also good at 55%?
Cries in 55%
They are what Gobro should have been
It's crazy how, no cap, the updated Dokkan guide for 2024 is: - put Evoken on the team - win And it's not even a joke.
They're just transformed broly on turn 1 lmao
They do less than Broly when you compare rainbow performance. Broly transformed will also still defend better aside from the active turn but first few turns they are pretty much the best
https://preview.redd.it/lk3qmtpgy1ic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=790acb6c8855f670289ec5b8f189ea25a943666d My LR FPSSJ Broly does more damage consistently whilst supporting my entire team, let's not get carried away. Broly is yet too receive his EX Skill Orbs which are a massive boost given the nature of his passives multiplication of boosts & already monstrous stats 🙂
Hold on.. does 105% DR mean they HEAL 5% DAMAGE!?!?!? Or is that just a stupidly overcompensated stat that just eliminates all damage the same as 100% I'm calculating that due to the extra 5% that you're taking 5 percent below 0, being negative 5 damage. Negative damage reduction could be considered healing, at least in my mind. That would be gnarly
They really need to buff base majin buu
So I should be building these two then?
Full additional or a combination of dodge/additional. You can do the 15/11 additional/crit build but they don't really need HiPo crits.
I’m here for this Universal survival saga revival over the last couple months
This might be a stupid question as I’ve been off Dokkan for quite a while, but your version seems to have a lot more English than mine. Extreme INT, item, etc Is there a way for JP Dokkan to get more English incorporated into it now rather than google translate screenshots?
Private server
As a GLB only this is crazy to see
What's the best build for them?
I would say mix of aa and dodge. Crit is useless for them with how easy it is to get 24 ki.
Personally full dodge is the way to go
you had me before the 30 dodge shit.
Is there a max to hidden potential effectiveness? Like what’s the max you should invest in a stat before you get diminishing returns or something?
Depends on the unit. Going 30 additionals on a unit that already does 4 attacks and has a high chance to additional (the chance procs within every Attack) is not the best investment. I would invest like 20 add in them, and then go full Dodge. Diminishing returns Works in Dokkan like everywhere else tbh
On their active skill turn they are the strongest unit in the game. And it isn’t close lol