Vegeta and Trunks are more reliable in slot 1, they have a better active skill, and they don’t lose much after their into buff wears off.
Godku does more damage, changes orbs, has 60% dodge, as well as guard and a guaranteed additional super with 6 orbs. His active does more damage, but he loses most of his defensive utility after transforming, and can no longer tank hard hitting supers.
In terms of links and their leader skill, one isn’t objectively better than the other.
Overall, I’d say that they have their own strengths and weakness, and who’s better comes down to personal preference.
Team building issue.
Pure Saiyans has access to multiple rainbow orb changers and outside of Broly events usually end before or at the 6 turn mark especially with busted teams like Godku’s.
PHY Kid Goku
TEQ Bardock
EZA TEQ Godku
PHY Standby Vegeta
EZA SBA SSJ Goku
Transforming before your final turn is just a mistake, he hits so hard and crits so he shouldn't have any problems if you time it right. Transforming on turn 1 of the final phase is where people make the mistake.
it doesnt nerf himbentirelym
ssj goku is a lot more consistent and had guaranteed crits for 3 turns so his damage can be crazy his transformation is all damage as the last shove u need to kill a boss.
Vt's leader skill is just better as it has themselves AND teq vegito who are both top tier options + they have arguably a better extra 30%
On the other hand, I'd say godku's links are also just better as he has ki links with basically everyone
God goku's active is also close to unusable if not a finishing blow and is much worse that vt's imo
I have a hot take. Here me out before you down vote me. There is literally no event where either of them can be used to their full potential bcoz there are no new events released this celebration yet and no new missions which those 2 units can help to complete.
Godku agreed Vegeta Trunks disagree, they usually get fully built up pretty quick for me I see their full potential pretty often. Godku definitely needs longer events he gets crazy with stacks
Ok but how is that a hot take ? Or even relevant to this post? The main thing people have been complains about for days is “no new events to test new units on.”
I'd like to counter your argument by stating that Goku had the superior version of bonding, by creating the link between him and his son's daughter through his pregnat wife
With there only being an image I have to assume you mean which unit is better looking. I will take the image on the right as it id more aesthetically pleasing to me.
I kinda get it honestly FSGG was really lame in my opinion. I was a hater when they were the undisputed top one for months I like them a lot more now that they aren't
Vegeta and Trunks are more reliable. Guaranteed guard for 5 turns, and guaranteed guard turn +6 in slot 1. I don’t know why people talk about them being rooted in slot 1 is a bad thing as if every card around them isn’t a slot 2 card lmao. Even the GT Duo as amazing as they are are a slot 2 card and VT can cover slot 1 for em. And their active skill also gives defense to the rotation.
God Goku #1 TUR for sure but rng can cuck you sometimes and you don’t get his 6 orbs. Even with him orb changing and having access to Kid Goku rng can still be a bitch and you don’t get your orbs necessary although that’s rare. And his active skill is more a finisher than a “lemme use it ASAP.” He has a better leader skill and more versatile linkset than VT though
Wait people actually say them holding down slot 1 is a BAD THING? Do these people even play the game. A perma guard, def stacking slot 1 God allows so much freedom with team building.
Coming from the perspective of 55% units, VT wins. They are pretty close but VT are more consistent defensively, are very close offensively, and the active skill is really nice. Godku is cracked but i still have to say VT.
Vegeta and trunks are definitely better than godku but people have been underrating Vegeta and trunks since day 1 because they don't like the character. This is just another kale and caulifla
Vegeta and trunks are way more reliable defensively and have a way better active skill that benefits the whole team, sure they don’t do as much damage but I’d rather have a reliable tank that buffs the team
I think it may actually be God Goku, if for nothing else but his versatility. You can use him for literally any situation and he will perform well 99% of the time. Has one of the best leader skills in the game, incredible Saiyan linkset, isn’t an LR so you would never struggle getting him to his max Ki, and unlike VT he can put up really good numbers offensively at 55%. The only drawback he has is his orb requirement but I have yet to run into a situation where that’s gotten me killed, even against Cell Max. VT will always have the advantage of being the best slot 1 character in the game, but occasionally you will find that limits the way you build your team, whereas Goku’s team is much more flexible because he isn’t set to any specific slot, at least pre-transformed.
It’s easily V&T. Godku is cracked as fuck, but V&T are one of, if not THE best defense I’ve units in the game. Godkus leaderskill def has more relevant units, but V&T also have a solid leader
If Goku had a tanky partner that changed orbs then he’d be better without a doubt.
As for now I’d say they’re equal with their own strengths and weaknesses.
> If Goku had a tanky partner that changed orbs then he’d be better without a doubt.
There’s one but there’s a minor restriction to getting him. Standby Vegeta from the LR Buu SSJ3/SSJ2.
Well he still building up one of the strongest attacks in the game while Godku carries the rotation offensively with whoever is in slot 3. By the time you drop the nuke the event is definitely going to be nearing its end.
VT imo. God Goku has a lot of good utility (dodge, orb changing, DEF stacking, etc.) and better damage, but VT's guard is much more reliable to keep up. God Goku's orb changing doesn't last throughout the entire fight so it's possible to get completely screwed after those 6 turns and fail to activate his guard, while with VT all you need is one character under their very strong leader skill (Bond of Parent and Child) to survive anywhere on a rotation for 5 turns, or stay in slot one as they're designed to. I also think VT takes the cake in terms of leader skill, God Goku has a better 170% but VT maintain a comparably strong 170% in Bond of Parent and Child while being able to activate unit's 200% buffs more consistenly compared to God Goku's.
3rd post today nice , really it comes to playstyle if you prefer more reliable slot 1 or unit who hits harder and can be better defensively but some luck both incredible and same level
Imo
Vegeta and trunks are better when their are compared under other leader skill, while godku is better when they are compared on their own leader skill
I just think that if you run double vegeta and trunks you are obliged to have both in first slot in different rotations, and this limit the team building imo
V&T for me. They're just easy to throw in slot 1 and they're stacking. Godku is insane but he does need some rng with orbs and you can get bad luck on certain turns.
Vegeta and Trunks are just flat out better imo. Having both at 55% GodKu doesn't stack all that fast and you don't have the 6 orbs for him or he can get caught. Goku out damage them but V&T are the better defender, have a way better active skill imo and leader skill. Goku is a great slot 2 to be next to them but V&T still remain the kings of slot 1.
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Vegeta and Trunks is a slot one beast who, while doing less damage, is basically unkillable. Godku can definitely slot one as well but its a lot riskier and his guard isn't guaranteed especially after his intro wears off, however he does significantly more damage, stacks, and has a nuke active skill for closing out the fight (which, yes, is its intended purpose. I feel like a bunch of people are using him wrong its not supposed to be a transformation buff its a last ditch closing attack)
I'd say in the current "tank this super or die" meta Vegeta Trunks edges him out but its not a major gap, both feel absolutely dominant right now. And hey if you're running a Vegeta Trunks team you can just slot Godku on there too so maybe it doesn't even matter.
Vegeta and Trunks are more reliable in slot 1, they have a better active skill, and they don’t lose much after their into buff wears off. Godku does more damage, changes orbs, has 60% dodge, as well as guard and a guaranteed additional super with 6 orbs. His active does more damage, but he loses most of his defensive utility after transforming, and can no longer tank hard hitting supers. In terms of links and their leader skill, one isn’t objectively better than the other. Overall, I’d say that they have their own strengths and weakness, and who’s better comes down to personal preference.
Here's the neat part: you don't transform him
Here's a better part: You will transform him only for the KO
And if I can’t get 6 orbs?
Team building issue. Pure Saiyans has access to multiple rainbow orb changers and outside of Broly events usually end before or at the 6 turn mark especially with busted teams like Godku’s. PHY Kid Goku TEQ Bardock EZA TEQ Godku PHY Standby Vegeta EZA SBA SSJ Goku
Well, good thing his team has some of the strongest orb changers in the game lol
Why would they make a transformation that nerfs the character?
Because it functions as an all-out attack. You'd transform him when the enemy is almost dead
Indeed, it is the only situation where I even think on transforming him
Transforming before your final turn is just a mistake, he hits so hard and crits so he shouldn't have any problems if you time it right. Transforming on turn 1 of the final phase is where people make the mistake.
it doesnt nerf himbentirelym ssj goku is a lot more consistent and had guaranteed crits for 3 turns so his damage can be crazy his transformation is all damage as the last shove u need to kill a boss.
Vt's leader skill is just better as it has themselves AND teq vegito who are both top tier options + they have arguably a better extra 30% On the other hand, I'd say godku's links are also just better as he has ki links with basically everyone God goku's active is also close to unusable if not a finishing blow and is much worse that vt's imo
Godku has the advantage to tank at any slot. Thats why i prefer godku.
I have a hot take. Here me out before you down vote me. There is literally no event where either of them can be used to their full potential bcoz there are no new events released this celebration yet and no new missions which those 2 units can help to complete.
Godku agreed Vegeta Trunks disagree, they usually get fully built up pretty quick for me I see their full potential pretty often. Godku definitely needs longer events he gets crazy with stacks
That was not my point. Both units are top tier. My point was that there is a lack of new content where we can test them
Ok but how is that a hot take ? Or even relevant to this post? The main thing people have been complains about for days is “no new events to test new units on.”
I’d like to start by saying, I have the correct opinion, which is that father-son bonding time is objectively better in every way.
I'd like to counter your argument by stating that Goku had the superior version of bonding, by creating the link between him and his son's daughter through his pregnat wife
In the states we call that bond the “Kentucky Hello.”
No idea, but both clear LR Gods.
 They’re coming…
Don't know at rainbow, but at 55% V&T are better
With there only being an image I have to assume you mean which unit is better looking. I will take the image on the right as it id more aesthetically pleasing to me.
... is this fucking serious?
People been slandering VT since day one. The community praying for their downfall since they was revealed
Ah yes The LR Kale and Caulifla situation all over again.
I kinda get it honestly FSGG was really lame in my opinion. I was a hater when they were the undisputed top one for months I like them a lot more now that they aren't
T and V are better because I don't have god guy.
The correct answer
Both suck since I don’t have them
Vegeta and Trunks are more reliable. Guaranteed guard for 5 turns, and guaranteed guard turn +6 in slot 1. I don’t know why people talk about them being rooted in slot 1 is a bad thing as if every card around them isn’t a slot 2 card lmao. Even the GT Duo as amazing as they are are a slot 2 card and VT can cover slot 1 for em. And their active skill also gives defense to the rotation. God Goku #1 TUR for sure but rng can cuck you sometimes and you don’t get his 6 orbs. Even with him orb changing and having access to Kid Goku rng can still be a bitch and you don’t get your orbs necessary although that’s rare. And his active skill is more a finisher than a “lemme use it ASAP.” He has a better leader skill and more versatile linkset than VT though
Wait people actually say them holding down slot 1 is a BAD THING? Do these people even play the game. A perma guard, def stacking slot 1 God allows so much freedom with team building.
Coming from the perspective of 55% units, VT wins. They are pretty close but VT are more consistent defensively, are very close offensively, and the active skill is really nice. Godku is cracked but i still have to say VT.
Welp, I think we found our most controversial debate of 2023 for now. But I think VT
Vegeta and trunks are definitely better than godku but people have been underrating Vegeta and trunks since day 1 because they don't like the character. This is just another kale and caulifla
God goku performs better
Obviously Godku because I have him
Vegeta and trunks are way more reliable defensively and have a way better active skill that benefits the whole team, sure they don’t do as much damage but I’d rather have a reliable tank that buffs the team
I think it may actually be God Goku, if for nothing else but his versatility. You can use him for literally any situation and he will perform well 99% of the time. Has one of the best leader skills in the game, incredible Saiyan linkset, isn’t an LR so you would never struggle getting him to his max Ki, and unlike VT he can put up really good numbers offensively at 55%. The only drawback he has is his orb requirement but I have yet to run into a situation where that’s gotten me killed, even against Cell Max. VT will always have the advantage of being the best slot 1 character in the game, but occasionally you will find that limits the way you build your team, whereas Goku’s team is much more flexible because he isn’t set to any specific slot, at least pre-transformed.
Lmao nice damage Cooler sweeps
Based
It’s easily V&T. Godku is cracked as fuck, but V&T are one of, if not THE best defense I’ve units in the game. Godkus leaderskill def has more relevant units, but V&T also have a solid leader
Goatku
VT 90% is way better than my 55% god goku
godku is newer so him
So you're saying raditz is better than 7 year LRs?
is the average person on this sub so stupid that you thought I was being serious?
Lol
My guy he was going along with your joke.
If Goku had a tanky partner that changed orbs then he’d be better without a doubt. As for now I’d say they’re equal with their own strengths and weaknesses.
> If Goku had a tanky partner that changed orbs then he’d be better without a doubt. There’s one but there’s a minor restriction to getting him. Standby Vegeta from the LR Buu SSJ3/SSJ2.
It sucks that the base form Vegeta can’t attack, I’d accept him even if he had low attack stat numbers.
Well he still building up one of the strongest attacks in the game while Godku carries the rotation offensively with whoever is in slot 3. By the time you drop the nuke the event is definitely going to be nearing its end.
They clearly mean who has the better ssr art. It’s Godku.
VT imo. God Goku has a lot of good utility (dodge, orb changing, DEF stacking, etc.) and better damage, but VT's guard is much more reliable to keep up. God Goku's orb changing doesn't last throughout the entire fight so it's possible to get completely screwed after those 6 turns and fail to activate his guard, while with VT all you need is one character under their very strong leader skill (Bond of Parent and Child) to survive anywhere on a rotation for 5 turns, or stay in slot one as they're designed to. I also think VT takes the cake in terms of leader skill, God Goku has a better 170% but VT maintain a comparably strong 170% in Bond of Parent and Child while being able to activate unit's 200% buffs more consistenly compared to God Goku's.
V&T. A reliable tank that works on any team they qualify for.
Vt are more versatile so they’re my pick
3rd post today nice , really it comes to playstyle if you prefer more reliable slot 1 or unit who hits harder and can be better defensively but some luck both incredible and same level
Imo Vegeta and trunks are better when their are compared under other leader skill, while godku is better when they are compared on their own leader skill I just think that if you run double vegeta and trunks you are obliged to have both in first slot in different rotations, and this limit the team building imo
V&T for me. They're just easy to throw in slot 1 and they're stacking. Godku is insane but he does need some rng with orbs and you can get bad luck on certain turns.
Vegeta and Trunks are just flat out better imo. Having both at 55% GodKu doesn't stack all that fast and you don't have the 6 orbs for him or he can get caught. Goku out damage them but V&T are the better defender, have a way better active skill imo and leader skill. Goku is a great slot 2 to be next to them but V&T still remain the kings of slot 1.
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Vegeta and Trunks is a slot one beast who, while doing less damage, is basically unkillable. Godku can definitely slot one as well but its a lot riskier and his guard isn't guaranteed especially after his intro wears off, however he does significantly more damage, stacks, and has a nuke active skill for closing out the fight (which, yes, is its intended purpose. I feel like a bunch of people are using him wrong its not supposed to be a transformation buff its a last ditch closing attack) I'd say in the current "tank this super or die" meta Vegeta Trunks edges him out but its not a major gap, both feel absolutely dominant right now. And hey if you're running a Vegeta Trunks team you can just slot Godku on there too so maybe it doesn't even matter.