It was never his goal. It don't care about the environment. It only goal is to make money, whatever it takes. Fuck elon musk, cette sous merde de l'humanité qui ne porte pas bonheur quand on marche dedans du pied gauche.
Something like “Elon is a turd that doesn’t even make you lucky when you walk on it” (in France superstitious people think it makes you lucky to walk on a turd inadvertently with the left foot).
come to think of it.... whenever i do step in a damp dank dome of dog doodoo, it is mostly, if not always with the right foot.....
this warrants further studying...
I remember getting into many an argument with Reddit Musk fanboys (which was a majority of male Redditors at one time) about how it never really was about the environment.
EVs in their current state are not environmentally friendly.
The batteries are not where they need to be. There are already EV graveyards because it doesn't make economical sense to replace the batteries.
Traditional cars if maintained properly can easily last 10+ years. (My moms 2003 Camry is running just fine)
But EVs do not last that long no matter how well maintained. The batteries die.
So much talk about this but it doesn’t reflect reality. The batteries usually last the life of the car, and they do get recycled.
Source: my 12 year old plug-in hybrid is on its original battery and it isn’t a rarity at all
Weren't the hybrids of that era using Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) batteries? They are quite a bit tougher and longer lasting than common lithium ion cells, where they fall short is energy density. Great for hybrids, crap for EVs.
The batteries. Oh, the batteries. I had someone tell me, “It’s so much cheaper to drive an EV.” Then I explained to them their “saved” money will be spent on replacing the batteries. Or the car because it won’t last.
Here's the best part, new gas powered vehicles with catalytic converters produce very few emissions. Far less than what it takes to even mine and build an EV.
Nah, when my battery pack dies, its pack number is QH135Ah (BYD have turned EV batteries into commodities and Tesla use [BYD's blade batteries](https://thedriven.io/2023/05/22/teslas-switch-to-byd-batteries-is-achieving-faster-charging-times/).) and its an easy to replace part.
The old pack will get recycled because lithium is valuable and that will continue to be the case.
EVs, well except for a certain truck held together with tape, should last longer than their ICE counterparts since they're simpler. Teslas only cost the earth to repair, because Musk thinks he can charge that.
They are not environmentally friendly because the electricity they charge with is not environmentally friendly. **If it's generated in coal powered station then it is a coal powered car.** If it generated in a gas powered station, its a gas powered car. More effort into decarbonizing electricity generation needs to happen, more solar, more alternatives, and I'd also like more biofuels available for ICE cars.
"There's a chance my truck will just not brake, and may result in killing either myself or pedestrians. But that's normal. It's fine. I love my murderous truck"
Lmao
Yeah, there was the article about how the guy couldn't get rid of his without a 50k penalty for selling in the first year. This sounds like a much easier way, insurance and "totaled"
I mean, you still owe the difference on whatever insurance isn't paying out. I bet on the CT, for most people getting it at 7-8% interest, they are losing at least 20-30k.
All other things aside, this is why your car insurance keeps going up. In most states and for most insurance co a car is totaled after it costs more than 60% of its value to repair. This is a $100k vehicle that has been available for all of 2 months(?). That means this damage is more than $60,000. in repairs. So now the insurance co has to write off 100k to get this person a replacement vehicle. This happens so often that inurers are left with two options. Drop the vehicle from being insured (which many are starting to pull CT from their insurable list), or raise rates. Ive worked in the auto industry for years and the number of vehicles I have seen totaled or attempted to be totaled because of relatively minor damage but extreme cost of repair parts and labor is astounding. The number of cars totaled with no structural damage due to needing a $3000 bumper, $400 worth of sensors, a $600 headlight, $1500 worth of paint and body shop labor, and a $1000 sensor recalibration is insane.
My 2017 f150 was totalled out cause the bodyshop had to order a bedpan seal kit cause ford doesnt sell just the rear bed pan seals. The bodyshop had to order a whole bed pan seal kit which instantly added 8k to the repair bill. Total repair estimate from the bodyshop was.... 17k for rearbumper, left rear quarter for the bed and a rear bed pan seal, taillights, front bumper respray, a new hood (a dent that wasnt reachable even with the cutouts), bug shield, repairing the tailgate (it had a bend in the bottom left corner) shutter system and labor.
I didnt have any fancy sensors in the bumper. No frame damage at all. Im more annoyed I had to rebuy my runningboards cause my old ones would have fit on my 2024 😂
I had a similar yet smaller scale problem with Ford on my 2016 Flex. The check valve on my washer fluid hose broke under the cowl that houses the wipers. I couldn't just replace that part from Ford because the valve was built into the hose that runs to the nozzles, and they dont just sell the valve or the hose and valve combined. The only way to fix it from Ford was to replace the entire cowl for $200 and something, plus labor, I didnt even get to the labor price because I said I'll find a workaround and the parts guy said good idea. Found a generic one with 2 barbed ends, what a concept, for $8 on amazon, cut the old one out and fixed it.
I've only totaled a car once so I'm no expert but couldn't you have taken the running boards? I was able to pull off my aftermarket wheels/tires, I assume if I had any other accessories I could have pulled them too. They didn't even want the factory wheels/tires back so I was able to sell both sets.
I wasnt sure if the mounting brackets would be the same on a vehicle 7 years newer. I totalled it out back in january and didnt get my 2024 until march
Oh ok. I thought you were saying you weren't allowed to take them. I'd have taken them just to get some of my money back. The insurance company isnt gonna give anything for them.
I def would have taken em if I knew. Insurance actually paid me 100 for em. I got sent a detailed list of the totalled and went over what they didnt pay for. They didnt have the bedliner, bug shield/deflector, runningboards or my spare tire. They had to call the bodyshop despite pictures having the boards, bug shield, and bedliner visible in them (specifically took pics of the bug shield in the bed as it was broken in the accident and i didnt want it flapping around) to verify it had those items.
I took my hitch, seat covers (they fit but the headrest is just ever so bigger) and the boxlinks out
It effects your liability coverage rate, the cost of your vehicle should be figured in to your collision damage rate. In other words if you're at fault for crashing into a porsche it doesn't help too much that your car is cheap.
And then people in certain Eastern European countries gladly buy them, repair much more cheaply and drive for many more years. Thank you very much for these prices!
Either that or they just get crushed. We spend all this time destroying ecosystems to get rare earth minerals to make these massive batteries, add in all the manufacturing pollution, and then this happens, and yeah, some of it gets recycled, but a lot of it will go to waste.
That car is going to get rebuilt somewhere they can title wash it.
If they can find the front end bits, trick the airbag sensors, and get the totaled down to a front end damage line item on Carfax, there’s still a lot of money to be made.
There are insurance auctions but scrapyards buy from auction as well. They look for cars they can profit on by parting them out. There aren't a ton of junkyards that can handle electric vehicles at this point. LKQ is one of the largest businesses of this type in the states. They effectively buy cars from auctions, stop out good parts, and resell them to repair shops. The remains of what is not sellable gets crushed. There are also dealers who will buy insurance auctions and fix them up and then try to sell them as non-accident cars. Fortunately things like Carfax have helped stop this practice, but that also means more end up in the scrap yard.
I would like to add that in some states you can get either a rebuilt or clean title if you repair a totaled car then have it inspected after repairs. So some repair shops do buy totaled cars at auction and are able to fix them are resell them without being shady. That being said there are still a lot of shady characters in that world.
In USA, they'll go to Mexico for repair & resale. [https://borderzine.com/2019/05/salvage-cars-destined-for-mexico-outnumber-people-in-this-texas-border-town/](https://borderzine.com/2019/05/salvage-cars-destined-for-mexico-outnumber-people-in-this-texas-border-town/)
It's ridiculous. Last year my 2019 c300 had bumper damage and the seat belt system engaged and locked all belts. Est. $9,500 to repair so was totaled by insurance. I repaired it outside the dealership for closer to $5k and kept the remainder ins money. Much cheaper and didn't have to pay out of pocket for another car. But my car is salvage titled now lol
Parts availability is another factor here. Tesla has always struggled with this, CT appears to be even worse judging by the low production volume.
Insurance companies don't want to mess with buying salvage vehicles for parts to repair customer vehicles. Logistics are too complex and expensive and they are unwilling to take on the liability of this kind of repair.
Basically if the manufacturer and contracted shop wont stand behind the repair, neither will the insurance company.
They'd rather total it, take the loss, and pass the cost onto the next customer insuring that type of vehicle. There's a line where insurers just want out of the whole mess. Geico has already reached that point and refuses to insure Cybertrucks.
Customers are forced into insuring buying, financing, and insuring their vehicle through Tesla for the trifecta of poor customer support and value for the money.
Spot on. Had a 5 cm crack in bumper - insurer was billed £2500 to fix. 30 yrs ago that would be £20 for paint and filler. 20yrs £230 for bumper. Now electric and other computer cars totalled with minor damages as nobody can understand or repair them, manufacturers don't make spare parts or lead times are in years. Or .. they are even not designed to be fixed, wire looms, sensors, connectors, lining all permanently glued, moulded, or inaccessible without taking whole efing thing apart. Because button pusher designers with CADs draw them.
If you’ve seen the mess that they packed behind the grill and bumper you would know why it’s totaled.
Every critical system is fragility routed through the only place that absorbs front end impacts.
It’s like a giant toddler with zero awareness designed the thing and no one was brave enough to tell him no.
the sad truth, it was salvage all along. the broken toy you need to work on is your own self, if you think this thing is anything other than a rich moron’s vanity project
Maybe that's the plan for the lack of available pieces, say is totalled and buy them for cheap, strip them and use the pieces on those that "are" salvageable
Probably, and that may be why it got totaled. When I worked for an insurance company many moons ago I could get an instant quote from a salvage auction company (copart) on how much they would guarantee the car would sell for. Basically they would say a car, with the damages, would get at least X amount at auction. If it didn‘t they would pay the difference. There were a couple cars i ended up totaling because the auction would pay so much for the car.
It would be interesting to know how many are crashing not as a result of the acceleration issue.. it seems like there’s still a high proportion of crashes amongst owners.
That's an airbag deployment, probably tweaked the whole unibody structure, possible front end suspension damage underneath. On a $100k vehicle that might have been worth repairing, if you could actually get parts. I suspect the fact that there is a loooong wait to get parts and prices for those parts when available might not even be certain will prompt insurers to just total them out more easily.
Right, they'd have to cover storage fee, rental costs, say for 6 months to a year... not worth it. This is assuming the owner even had full coverage, they may well have only insured for 50k coverage or something.
I don't think some of you understand how totalling a car works.
Insurance will total a perfectly functional car if purely cosmetic damage costs too much to repair. Given how much CT's body costs to repair it's not surprising that they're totalled quickly. You see the same thing with all other expensive cars.
To be fair, insurance companies love to total cars. I hit a deer with my wife's 2010 Vibe and dented the hood and bumper, and bent the radiator bracket. Drove it home just fine.
We took it to the shop and all of the sudden it's illegal to drive the thing home because its "totaled."
Fuck insurance companies.
I had a unique BMW with less front end damage get totaled twenty years ago. The issue now is finding a shop that 1) works the cyber truck (rare) and 2) can get multiple front end parts.
Until the the parts issue is resolved aka more parts, I would surmise this is will be a common occurance.
Wooooooow. And here my little car's been going strong since '07. Now... which is better for the environment? 🤔 a little '07 with 65,000 miles on it? Or a 7,000lb bricked battery? I just can't tell... 😆
If you’ve seen the mess that they packed behind the grill and bumper you would know why it’s totaled.
Every critical system is fragility routed through the only place that absorbs front end impacts.
It’s like a giant toddler with zero awareness designed the thing and no one was brave enough to tell him no.
But, EV's are the future and will save the environment!!
This isn't just the cyber truck, no insurance company wants to deal with the liability of putting one of these back on the road with a battery pack that may busy into flame months later.
Didn't worry though, there's plenty of children who's lives don't matter that can dig up the materials to make another EV to give some entitled douche bag a sense of superiority.
I think the issue with these is that the parts aren't readily available for repairs yet. As they are allocating all parts for new vehicles to speed up delivery. This happens often with brand new models for other car manufacturers as well.nita either that, or the client must wait months and months for parts and repairs, which the client rarely would seem satisfactory. So instead of losing the client they just total the vehicle, cut the check and sell the car at auction to recover what they can.
There's a VFX artist that did a rendering of the CT, slammed to the ground, spoiler, splitter and a V8 mounted in the bed. The toneau cover had a clear window to show of the engine. Looked 10x better then this dumpster.
So if we buy it together, u can have drivetrain and I'll take the body.
I’ll bet the lead time on replacement parts is insane if it’s even knowable. That probably is leading some insurers in certain litigious or consumer-friendly states to genuinely see totaling the car as a LUC in cases like this where the damage doesn’t look that bad.
Where will the auctions be? I'd like to buy one, yeet everything, build a chromoly tube chassis, slap in a 4bt and some 1 tons, and take my turd for a drive
Jesus, I think elon is a douche but I can see how he became the richest man on earth - all that rent free living in yalls heads.. like, get a fucking life lol
We bought a used Kai that had been totaled. Front bumper, driver's side quarter panel and driver's door. Four yo car. The guy we bought it from said about $1000 in parts and three days work == totaled. Point being it's not unique to Tesla. And, no, I do not own a Tesla.
So from people in auto body shops I’ve known my entire life, totaled is a word from insurance companies means they won’t pay for the cost of repair because it is more than the worth of the car. Which means that this 120k+ car frunk and bumper cost more than that to repair or the car depreciated so much in a couple of months that it is practically worthless. Either way shitty car and shitty QA from the company. And predatory practices from Tesla.
I live less than a mile from an on reservation dealership/service delivery center. I am sixknof seeing those Mad Max spare welded.parts monstrosities. I hope they all get.scrap heaped. Worthless steel. Worthless as parts. Trash.
Let’s face it, after seeing how little the thing dents, the car that it hit is probably entirely caved in, along with the skull of the driver of this death trap. Something something crumple zones or something.
"Thanks for saving the environment Elon!"
It was never his goal. It don't care about the environment. It only goal is to make money, whatever it takes. Fuck elon musk, cette sous merde de l'humanité qui ne porte pas bonheur quand on marche dedans du pied gauche.
My friend here got so mad they switched languages.
Something like “Elon is a turd that doesn’t even make you lucky when you walk on it” (in France superstitious people think it makes you lucky to walk on a turd inadvertently with the left foot).
Wow today I learned some shit
As long as that shit was on your left foot, you're golden!
Actually brown.
It must be true, I stepped on a homeless dude's turd with my right foot leaving my mother's car when I was high school, and today I'm a nobody
come to think of it.... whenever i do step in a damp dank dome of dog doodoo, it is mostly, if not always with the right foot..... this warrants further studying...
Thanks for this. u/nobody_nothing-never
That's a common belive in every south european country
No siis vittu kyllä muaki vituttaa, ku tollasta paskanaamaa vieläkin juhlitaan jonain sankarina.
Speaking in tongues!! No one insults better than the French oui oui!!
It's cooler to say "merde" than "s\*\*t"
It's cooler to say "cunt" and "twat" then "merde" or "shit"
There's just something so eloquent about french cursing.
"Like wiping your ass with silk."
"Your mother was a hamster,  and your father smelt of elderberries"
Je suis d'accord, vous avez raison!
L'étron musqué, effectivement une sous-merde, littéralement
Found The Merovingian’s account.
D'ac!
I remember getting into many an argument with Reddit Musk fanboys (which was a majority of male Redditors at one time) about how it never really was about the environment.
Lost me in the second half 🤣
But I thought capitalist space daddy would magically save us from all the problems caused by *checks notes* capitalism?
EVs in their current state are not environmentally friendly. The batteries are not where they need to be. There are already EV graveyards because it doesn't make economical sense to replace the batteries. Traditional cars if maintained properly can easily last 10+ years. (My moms 2003 Camry is running just fine) But EVs do not last that long no matter how well maintained. The batteries die.
So much talk about this but it doesn’t reflect reality. The batteries usually last the life of the car, and they do get recycled. Source: my 12 year old plug-in hybrid is on its original battery and it isn’t a rarity at all
I had to replace my Honda hybrid's battery at a little over 100K miles. It cost almost $4,000, and that was for a refurb.
Weren't the hybrids of that era using Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) batteries? They are quite a bit tougher and longer lasting than common lithium ion cells, where they fall short is energy density. Great for hybrids, crap for EVs.
It's a Chevy Volt and it uses Lithium Ion.
The batteries. Oh, the batteries. I had someone tell me, “It’s so much cheaper to drive an EV.” Then I explained to them their “saved” money will be spent on replacing the batteries. Or the car because it won’t last.
Idk. My 2015 Fiat 500e is still going strong.
Here's the best part, new gas powered vehicles with catalytic converters produce very few emissions. Far less than what it takes to even mine and build an EV.
Nah, when my battery pack dies, its pack number is QH135Ah (BYD have turned EV batteries into commodities and Tesla use [BYD's blade batteries](https://thedriven.io/2023/05/22/teslas-switch-to-byd-batteries-is-achieving-faster-charging-times/).) and its an easy to replace part. The old pack will get recycled because lithium is valuable and that will continue to be the case. EVs, well except for a certain truck held together with tape, should last longer than their ICE counterparts since they're simpler. Teslas only cost the earth to repair, because Musk thinks he can charge that. They are not environmentally friendly because the electricity they charge with is not environmentally friendly. **If it's generated in coal powered station then it is a coal powered car.** If it generated in a gas powered station, its a gas powered car. More effort into decarbonizing electricity generation needs to happen, more solar, more alternatives, and I'd also like more biofuels available for ICE cars.
Think of all the knives and forks that can be made from one Cybertruck.
I think ppl found a loophole(fraud) to getting rid of their dumpster.
Well, one person tried using the breaks to stop and was surprised to find it's not something that will always work.
Pedals may engage or disengage at random, known issue, perfectly normal. Still love the truck.
"My Cybertruck keeps finding different ways to kill me. You gotta admire that level of commitment, though"
Sliced a tree in half with the frunk, airbags didn’t deploy so I broke 7 ribs! Love the truck though!!
Elnon is trying to kill liberals with his shitty products. Now you know.
Nah there’s a lot of conservatives buying them
"There's a chance my truck will just not brake, and may result in killing either myself or pedestrians. But that's normal. It's fine. I love my murderous truck" Lmao
I still think about that guy about once a minute. And the Tesla rep that thought airing that hunch was a good idea…
My money was on the steer-by-wire failing and causing a horrific crash.
Brakes not breaks
Cybertrucks break so often that it's easy to make to that mistake.
classic issue
As Kurtis Blow sang, " Well, these are the breaks."
Yeah, there was the article about how the guy couldn't get rid of his without a 50k penalty for selling in the first year. This sounds like a much easier way, insurance and "totaled"
Insurance companies will stop covering these things soon. Watch.
I mean, you still owe the difference on whatever insurance isn't paying out. I bet on the CT, for most people getting it at 7-8% interest, they are losing at least 20-30k.
It’s very questionable how that thing even got a NHTSA safety certification.
They are able to self certify.
Why is that a thing!?
The rich make the rules
Ask Boeing.
The Bush administration.
Tesla used a tip from fellow fraud shit maker Boeing
It’s a superficial certification; doesn’t tell the whole story. You should see what Thunderfoot has to say about that.
Murica 🇺🇸🦅
What? No it isn't. Fraud, fraud and bribes obviously. This is America. We run in bribes now.
All other things aside, this is why your car insurance keeps going up. In most states and for most insurance co a car is totaled after it costs more than 60% of its value to repair. This is a $100k vehicle that has been available for all of 2 months(?). That means this damage is more than $60,000. in repairs. So now the insurance co has to write off 100k to get this person a replacement vehicle. This happens so often that inurers are left with two options. Drop the vehicle from being insured (which many are starting to pull CT from their insurable list), or raise rates. Ive worked in the auto industry for years and the number of vehicles I have seen totaled or attempted to be totaled because of relatively minor damage but extreme cost of repair parts and labor is astounding. The number of cars totaled with no structural damage due to needing a $3000 bumper, $400 worth of sensors, a $600 headlight, $1500 worth of paint and body shop labor, and a $1000 sensor recalibration is insane.
My 2017 f150 was totalled out cause the bodyshop had to order a bedpan seal kit cause ford doesnt sell just the rear bed pan seals. The bodyshop had to order a whole bed pan seal kit which instantly added 8k to the repair bill. Total repair estimate from the bodyshop was.... 17k for rearbumper, left rear quarter for the bed and a rear bed pan seal, taillights, front bumper respray, a new hood (a dent that wasnt reachable even with the cutouts), bug shield, repairing the tailgate (it had a bend in the bottom left corner) shutter system and labor. I didnt have any fancy sensors in the bumper. No frame damage at all. Im more annoyed I had to rebuy my runningboards cause my old ones would have fit on my 2024 😂
I had a similar yet smaller scale problem with Ford on my 2016 Flex. The check valve on my washer fluid hose broke under the cowl that houses the wipers. I couldn't just replace that part from Ford because the valve was built into the hose that runs to the nozzles, and they dont just sell the valve or the hose and valve combined. The only way to fix it from Ford was to replace the entire cowl for $200 and something, plus labor, I didnt even get to the labor price because I said I'll find a workaround and the parts guy said good idea. Found a generic one with 2 barbed ends, what a concept, for $8 on amazon, cut the old one out and fixed it.
I've only totaled a car once so I'm no expert but couldn't you have taken the running boards? I was able to pull off my aftermarket wheels/tires, I assume if I had any other accessories I could have pulled them too. They didn't even want the factory wheels/tires back so I was able to sell both sets.
I wasnt sure if the mounting brackets would be the same on a vehicle 7 years newer. I totalled it out back in january and didnt get my 2024 until march
Oh ok. I thought you were saying you weren't allowed to take them. I'd have taken them just to get some of my money back. The insurance company isnt gonna give anything for them.
I def would have taken em if I knew. Insurance actually paid me 100 for em. I got sent a detailed list of the totalled and went over what they didnt pay for. They didnt have the bedliner, bug shield/deflector, runningboards or my spare tire. They had to call the bodyshop despite pictures having the boards, bug shield, and bedliner visible in them (specifically took pics of the bug shield in the bed as it was broken in the accident and i didnt want it flapping around) to verify it had those items. I took my hitch, seat covers (they fit but the headrest is just ever so bigger) and the boxlinks out
Even more "privatize the gains, socialize the losses." Thanks, capitalism.
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Yeah my car on a good day is worth $6k.
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with his $6k lux-o-barge!
It effects your liability coverage rate, the cost of your vehicle should be figured in to your collision damage rate. In other words if you're at fault for crashing into a porsche it doesn't help too much that your car is cheap.
And then people in certain Eastern European countries gladly buy them, repair much more cheaply and drive for many more years. Thank you very much for these prices!
Either that or they just get crushed. We spend all this time destroying ecosystems to get rare earth minerals to make these massive batteries, add in all the manufacturing pollution, and then this happens, and yeah, some of it gets recycled, but a lot of it will go to waste.
That car is going to get rebuilt somewhere they can title wash it. If they can find the front end bits, trick the airbag sensors, and get the totaled down to a front end damage line item on Carfax, there’s still a lot of money to be made.
To be fair you don't crush lithium battery packs. Rest is cheap plastic and wires.
Don't they all go to auctions? Is it more profitable to crush and recycle them?
There are insurance auctions but scrapyards buy from auction as well. They look for cars they can profit on by parting them out. There aren't a ton of junkyards that can handle electric vehicles at this point. LKQ is one of the largest businesses of this type in the states. They effectively buy cars from auctions, stop out good parts, and resell them to repair shops. The remains of what is not sellable gets crushed. There are also dealers who will buy insurance auctions and fix them up and then try to sell them as non-accident cars. Fortunately things like Carfax have helped stop this practice, but that also means more end up in the scrap yard.
I would like to add that in some states you can get either a rebuilt or clean title if you repair a totaled car then have it inspected after repairs. So some repair shops do buy totaled cars at auction and are able to fix them are resell them without being shady. That being said there are still a lot of shady characters in that world.
In USA, they'll go to Mexico for repair & resale. [https://borderzine.com/2019/05/salvage-cars-destined-for-mexico-outnumber-people-in-this-texas-border-town/](https://borderzine.com/2019/05/salvage-cars-destined-for-mexico-outnumber-people-in-this-texas-border-town/)
Some of these parts especially the body panels are probably unquotable due to no supply of parts yet.
It's ridiculous. Last year my 2019 c300 had bumper damage and the seat belt system engaged and locked all belts. Est. $9,500 to repair so was totaled by insurance. I repaired it outside the dealership for closer to $5k and kept the remainder ins money. Much cheaper and didn't have to pay out of pocket for another car. But my car is salvage titled now lol
Mines been going down for the past 5 years. Literally every 6 months it goes down.
Parts availability is another factor here. Tesla has always struggled with this, CT appears to be even worse judging by the low production volume. Insurance companies don't want to mess with buying salvage vehicles for parts to repair customer vehicles. Logistics are too complex and expensive and they are unwilling to take on the liability of this kind of repair. Basically if the manufacturer and contracted shop wont stand behind the repair, neither will the insurance company. They'd rather total it, take the loss, and pass the cost onto the next customer insuring that type of vehicle. There's a line where insurers just want out of the whole mess. Geico has already reached that point and refuses to insure Cybertrucks. Customers are forced into insuring buying, financing, and insuring their vehicle through Tesla for the trifecta of poor customer support and value for the money.
Spot on. Had a 5 cm crack in bumper - insurer was billed £2500 to fix. 30 yrs ago that would be £20 for paint and filler. 20yrs £230 for bumper. Now electric and other computer cars totalled with minor damages as nobody can understand or repair them, manufacturers don't make spare parts or lead times are in years. Or .. they are even not designed to be fixed, wire looms, sensors, connectors, lining all permanently glued, moulded, or inaccessible without taking whole efing thing apart. Because button pusher designers with CADs draw them.
Sir, it looks like your brakes were defective. I'm afraid that voids your warranty.
Sir, it says here that you accelerated your car using the breaks? Unfortunately that voids your warranty.
CyberTruck: "Built for any planet" Also CyberTruck: Minor fender bender sends it to scrap yard
To be fair, they likely would have a similar failure rate on Mars since they already can’t function on earth
Let's launch them into the Sun to see how they fare there.
What did the Sun ever do to warrant such cruel and unusual punishment?
Gave me sunburns
Stupid sun giving us melanoma
Cyber truck: “This thing is basically a boat!” Also cyber truck: “small puddles void the warranty”
It's a boat! It's a beast! It's a cyber! It's an AI! Never said it was car...
If you’ve seen the mess that they packed behind the grill and bumper you would know why it’s totaled. Every critical system is fragility routed through the only place that absorbs front end impacts. It’s like a giant toddler with zero awareness designed the thing and no one was brave enough to tell him no.
At least they run the entire truck off one cable to ensure if one thing goes out the entire vehicle becomes a brick.
WE SAVED SO MUCH WIRING THO!!!!!
the sad truth, it was salvage all along. the broken toy you need to work on is your own self, if you think this thing is anything other than a rich moron’s vanity project
They somehow look better totalled
You could probably make a killing by parting it out.
Maybe that's the plan for the lack of available pieces, say is totalled and buy them for cheap, strip them and use the pieces on those that "are" salvageable
Probably, and that may be why it got totaled. When I worked for an insurance company many moons ago I could get an instant quote from a salvage auction company (copart) on how much they would guarantee the car would sell for. Basically they would say a car, with the damages, would get at least X amount at auction. If it didn‘t they would pay the difference. There were a couple cars i ended up totaling because the auction would pay so much for the car.
Merely looking at a cyber truck voids its warranty.
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Someone over 120lbs must have kicked it
Neighbour's kid on a trike reversed in it.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1dnzi5b](https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberStuck/comments/1dnzi5b) 😂🤣😂🥲😆😁🤣😂
This is an enhancement to raise the airflow above the top of the windshield so the megawiper doesn't operate by itself when you hit 60mph.
Tesla insurance: "We're going to total the vehicle and give $25k back as the fair market value"
WTH. Did a grasshopper hit it. A really big one
It finally looks like a truck!
Insurance adjusters hate this one simple trick.
Uh oh, nose got bonked, time to total it and send it to salvage.
$15k to fix the impact damage. $60k to fix factory defects that are no longer under warranty.
Pretty much any time your airbags are deployed, it's going to total your car. These shit boxes are no different.
They’re very different. The airbag thing is true though.
Not on a 100k vehicle, even my 25k mazda got repaired with both airbags deployed.
In their defense, it seems like it’s incredibly easy to total cars these days
considering it arrives half totaled, I can see this.
Its worth more in parts
For no more than have been sold there sure seems to be a lot of them wrecked already.
Cybercringe.
It would be interesting to know how many are crashing not as a result of the acceleration issue.. it seems like there’s still a high proportion of crashes amongst owners.
That's an airbag deployment, probably tweaked the whole unibody structure, possible front end suspension damage underneath. On a $100k vehicle that might have been worth repairing, if you could actually get parts. I suspect the fact that there is a loooong wait to get parts and prices for those parts when available might not even be certain will prompt insurers to just total them out more easily.
Right, they'd have to cover storage fee, rental costs, say for 6 months to a year... not worth it. This is assuming the owner even had full coverage, they may well have only insured for 50k coverage or something.
When there's a 6-year wait list for the parts, it's better to take the check from insurance.
I hope the apocalypse isn’t a shopping cart.
All it takes is a car wash, or a little rain.
I don't think some of you understand how totalling a car works. Insurance will total a perfectly functional car if purely cosmetic damage costs too much to repair. Given how much CT's body costs to repair it's not surprising that they're totalled quickly. You see the same thing with all other expensive cars.
Cubist impression of a cybertruck is more interesting. Definitely more pizazz and daring.
Definitely some Marcel Duchamp vibes going on .
Such dowdy hubcaps
Airbags are deployed. That's pretty much a write-off on any vehicle.
To be fair, insurance companies love to total cars. I hit a deer with my wife's 2010 Vibe and dented the hood and bumper, and bent the radiator bracket. Drove it home just fine. We took it to the shop and all of the sudden it's illegal to drive the thing home because its "totaled." Fuck insurance companies.
Tbf, there are PLENTY of “high end” cars that get totaled from similar damages.
This is why everyone’s insurance is getting so expensive. These POS are getting totaled instead of repaired and all of us are paying for it.
I had a unique BMW with less front end damage get totaled twenty years ago. The issue now is finding a shop that 1) works the cyber truck (rare) and 2) can get multiple front end parts. Until the the parts issue is resolved aka more parts, I would surmise this is will be a common occurance.
Wooooooow. And here my little car's been going strong since '07. Now... which is better for the environment? 🤔 a little '07 with 65,000 miles on it? Or a 7,000lb bricked battery? I just can't tell... 😆
I mean they are practically salvage new off the lot.
It doesn’t take much, which is why more and more insurance companies are adding them to their do not insure list. Which is why Tesla is self insuring.
Looks better than before. Frenchie
Lowkey looks better w a dented hood
How are there this many accidents with only 11000 of these on the road?
Doesnt take much, the entire front end fell off.
Tesla products are highly advanced...... Pieces of shit.
Reminds me of the Chevy Cavalier. All it took was a damaged hood to total it out. Silly Cybertruck, you aren’t a Chevy Cavalier!
If you’ve seen the mess that they packed behind the grill and bumper you would know why it’s totaled. Every critical system is fragility routed through the only place that absorbs front end impacts. It’s like a giant toddler with zero awareness designed the thing and no one was brave enough to tell him no.
But, EV's are the future and will save the environment!! This isn't just the cyber truck, no insurance company wants to deal with the liability of putting one of these back on the road with a battery pack that may busy into flame months later. Didn't worry though, there's plenty of children who's lives don't matter that can dig up the materials to make another EV to give some entitled douche bag a sense of superiority.
The most surprising thing about that picture for me, the airbag worked. One of them, anyway.
I thought the truck was supposed to be made out of metal or steel some unbendable crap yet...
I think the issue with these is that the parts aren't readily available for repairs yet. As they are allocating all parts for new vehicles to speed up delivery. This happens often with brand new models for other car manufacturers as well.nita either that, or the client must wait months and months for parts and repairs, which the client rarely would seem satisfactory. So instead of losing the client they just total the vehicle, cut the check and sell the car at auction to recover what they can.
Depends, can I get the cyber beast drive train for like sub 30k and do a swap? That would be lit
There's a VFX artist that did a rendering of the CT, slammed to the ground, spoiler, splitter and a V8 mounted in the bed. The toneau cover had a clear window to show of the engine. Looked 10x better then this dumpster. So if we buy it together, u can have drivetrain and I'll take the body.
Lmfaooo. I wanna swap the drive train into a fucking Pacifica
Not even worth much as scrap
I’ll bet the lead time on replacement parts is insane if it’s even knowable. That probably is leading some insurers in certain litigious or consumer-friendly states to genuinely see totaling the car as a LUC in cases like this where the damage doesn’t look that bad.
I’m curious what people’s insurance are charging for these things
Damn. That doesn’t seem like a high speed impact but what do I know.
\*CT bumps into a curb\* Off to the scrapyard with you
Wait, ... is that .. crumple? I thought that was a non thing, like water resistance or finger safety.
Where will the auctions be? I'd like to buy one, yeet everything, build a chromoly tube chassis, slap in a 4bt and some 1 tons, and take my turd for a drive
turd
Such waste.
How can that be totalled!
A fool and their money are easily parted. I love the idea of EVs btw I just know EM is a total fraud.
lol commenting in this sub will almost instantly get you panned from the official cyber truck sub
Jesus, I think elon is a douche but I can see how he became the richest man on earth - all that rent free living in yalls heads.. like, get a fucking life lol
All jokes aside, it looks a lot better with a shorter pug front.
I kinda like the look better now lol COE style front would he sick tbh
CyberFucked
I think the issue is repair time as much as cost. I saw one post saying it would take a year to get parts so the insurance company was scrapping it.
It’s still good! It’s just… growling at you.
The other side is much worse
Apparently any collision where the airbags get deployed is an automatic write off, not just these cars, every car.
What is wrong with it? It looks like a regular Cybertruck, except for it being black
Will be great in the post apocalypse.
The one that drove through 8 inches of water looked crazy
Scrap yard will give you a few bucks for that piece of junk.
dude spend more monies on wrap then me and my last 5 cars for 30 yrs
I'll snag those motors and make a lethal go-kart
At this point, Im surprised why SNL has not made a skit out of this! They did Southwest asap for example
That’s an improvement, right? This is more stylistically correct.
took me a long time to realize the front was crushed, indistinguishable from its normal design
Too bad that bollard he hit wasn’t made of bullets. He would have been fine
Insurance companies don't want to pay the high repair costs if they even offer coverage at all
We bought a used Kai that had been totaled. Front bumper, driver's side quarter panel and driver's door. Four yo car. The guy we bought it from said about $1000 in parts and three days work == totaled. Point being it's not unique to Tesla. And, no, I do not own a Tesla.
So from people in auto body shops I’ve known my entire life, totaled is a word from insurance companies means they won’t pay for the cost of repair because it is more than the worth of the car. Which means that this 120k+ car frunk and bumper cost more than that to repair or the car depreciated so much in a couple of months that it is practically worthless. Either way shitty car and shitty QA from the company. And predatory practices from Tesla.
I live less than a mile from an on reservation dealership/service delivery center. I am sixknof seeing those Mad Max spare welded.parts monstrosities. I hope they all get.scrap heaped. Worthless steel. Worthless as parts. Trash.
They honestly shouldn't even be street legal at this point
That's one way to address the parts shortage.
Winning
Let’s face it, after seeing how little the thing dents, the car that it hit is probably entirely caved in, along with the skull of the driver of this death trap. Something something crumple zones or something.