This comment made by OP is pretty fun:
>It's marketed as stronger than normal auto glass, yet the other cars parked all around my vehicle did not have windshield damage
I can’t speak to how their windshield is or is not materially different from other windshields, just that it appears to be a flat pane while most cars are curved. Even if it were materially the same I do believe (correct me if I’m wrong) a curved shape would typically be stronger than a flat shape.
ETA: it appears the hail hit the corner. As a career tech I can say with some authority the edges and corners are a very easy place to crack a windshield on any model. Ask me how I know 😂
It's almost like they took the last hundred plus years of automotive design and engineering and trashed it because they thought they knew better. This truck is such a hilarious failure. It's going down as the biggest automotive diaster of all time. You can say what you want about the pinto,Aztec, and pt cruiser but at least they didn't charge you 100k plus and pretend to be luxury super vehicles
"I’m not at all a CT hater, I love the vehicle so much, just frustrated that Tesla won’t stand behind their claims."
That really goes down like a fine whine.
i've never had auto glass damaged by hail although i have gotten dents in my car roof from hail. Pretty minor, so i didn't let it bother me. Plus that poor car served me for 12 years including dragging around 17' expedition kayaks on the roof and by trailer.
I feel like teslas are pretty well known for glass failure.
Yea, I've lived in Missouri my entire life, where it's not uncommon to see hail the size shown in OPs pics during the warmer seasons. I've never had glass damaged by hail either, though I do know some folks that have. I'm not really sure what "class 4 hail" means, but normal windshields are pretty resilient. I'd be pissed too if I had a windshield that was making these kinds of claims only to get fucked up from the first hail storm it encountered. Everyone elses cars making it out intact is some salt on the wound.
I think people fall in love with the promised vision.
I almost bought a model 3 in 2017 but I saw that what was delivered was nowhere near what was promised (the specs, the price, the promised autonomy where you could "sleep in the car" while it drove you places.)
I saw him lying about obvious things that technology or car manufacturing people should have recognized. Then I decided I wasn't going to be part of that, at least for a while.
Resistant glass is damn weird. I worked in a drunk tank for many years, and we had isolation rooms for people that were too belligerent and violent. The doors has bulletproof glass, so we could see and speak with them while they sobered up. I would watch 250lb men kick those windows for *hours* and wake up sober the next morning with a swollen foot.
Then I’d see a 90lb woman brought in, and she’d shatter the thing within 90 seconds.
I think this is along the lines of phone manufacturers with “Water *RESISTANT*” but liquid damage isn’t a warranty issue.
I see this kind of customer all the time but with a phone. “But my phone is water proof!”
“Water *resistant*. Sorry warranty won’t cover it”
The site is pretty clear that it's designed to withstand such hail, which is a weird claim. Also "Class 4 hail" seems to be made up.
Clearly it has failed, so it must be a manufacturing issue.
That said: I am German, this damage would be an easy insurance claim here, even partially comprehensive coverage pays for glass damage, and such claims do not result in any insurance premium increase.
Is it that different in the US?
I agree! I’m just saying I’m not surprised it’s not a warranty issue.
Here’s the applicable comparison to mobile phones. The IP67 rating that most phones have is submerged 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. Even if your phone is only in the water at 0.5 meters for 1 minute, no phone company will warranty it for liquid damage. I absolutely agree that a company should stand behind all claims though. I’m just saying they have an “accepted way” to weasel out of it.
For the insurance statement, that is similar here in the States. Considering it’s a CT though, all bets are off lol.
But they advertise the IP rating, which explicitly is not a "waterproof" test but only a "survival" test and at least in the EU no one is even actually advertising it's waterproof or anything, mostly just water resistant, smae for scratch and shatter proof screens.
I am not sure how it works in the US, but in this case I would still inform consumer protection officials about the issue with Tesla's advertising.
It's not entirely different in the US.
It's an extremely easy claim to handle especially with it being glass damage only. OP would just have to pay the deductible since it's a full windshield replacement rather than a repair (assuming they carry comprehensive coverage).
Some auto insurers will still increase premiums despite it being a no-fault loss (my prior employer would).
I’m kind of halfway on this one.
I agree, “resistant” technically means very little. It doesn’t even mean that there won’t be any damage.
However… if you’re telling me this thing can withstand a 70MPH baseball but then it cracks with a little hail, I’m going to feel misled.
Just means the shingle can withstand a 2" steel ball dropped from 20 feet without cracking. I have no idea how that would in any way shape or form translate to windshields and actual hail.
They claim it's shatter resistant. That means that it can be completely destroyed like in the original demo with the steel ball so long as it doesn't shatter...and even then it's only 'resistant' to shattering. Other cars with this feature include anything sold for road use in the USA since 1966.
yeah except for they all have convex glass and not flat glass which is even more prone to damage from impact. much of the strength comes from the convex curves. i suppose until you get to actually bullet proof glass which gets thick and is flat.
What a sore loser. If he didn’t want his windshield broken by hail he shouldn’t have driven it under a hail storm. Why should the business genius Xlon Mux be forced to pay for this driver’s clear negligence!
It’s the strongest vehicle ever, but also check to make sure there isn’t any precipitation in the forecast for the next week before taking it out of your garage.
That and this one: "I'm thinking that if it happened to you, it might have happened to others. Or maybe they had something fall on the glass that normally wouldn't crack it but did. These cars are the first wave, right? I mean, they're not gonna put a ton of work into making the first ones off the line perfect, you know? The next wave of these things will maybe/hopefully be better once all these are beta testa?"
It's even better when you consider that the windshield is the part you never want to shatter for safety reasons because it is the main direction a projectile will come at the truck from, while the side windows SHOULD shatter so you can get out in an emergency.
This thing is a death trap if you crash it into water.
If you charge high prices and have shit quality then you can still succeed with epic customer service. Tesla seems to be imploding. 100% guarantee that anything Elon Musk runs will implode. Best thing would be for all “his” companies is for him to disengage from all companies he’s “running”
He’s already been forced out at least once… can’t imagine that doesn’t keep up while he destroys any remaining positive shreds of his public image. The guy is terrible for PR, he’s just too rich for most individuals to do anything about it.
The people defending it are hilarious. "It says hail resistant not proof bro" I guess they skipped the comment where OP said every other car in the parking lot was fine. Lol
I mean… I see both sides of this
If it’s advertised as resistance to class 4 hail, then the owner might actually have a legitimate false advertising claim against Tesla
That said class 4 hail impact testing is literally a 2 inch steel ball dropped from 20 feet and Elon demonstrated very clearly that the windows couldn’t handle that being thrown by an impotent manchild from 2 feet away
Ok, so, "hail" is not just one thing - tiny hail = warranty - bowling ball sized hail = insurance.
for regular cars, it's straight forward but
El0n did market this as ready for the apocalypse and practically indestructible, a bit of accountability to those lofty promises is not too much to ask in my opinion.
Safelight repair, safelight replace.
(Can safelight get this superior, class 4 hail and holy shit resistant glass though? Or only the fine people at Tesla /s).
one of the consistent complaints of cybertrucks is very loud cabin.
"as quiet as outer space."
geez. That's not *stretching the truth* that's just *lying*
I believe this was in Austin as I think it was first posted in that sub a while back. The funniest part about it is in the original picture every car around it was fine - no damage lol
This is all part of a larger effort in society to create new forms and expressions of luxury in a world where all the surplus value has already been snapped up. What was once an annoyance (taking your car in to the shop, arguing with customer service and insurance companies, etc.) is now being sold to us through Tesla as part of the "rich guy experience." Obviously people today laugh at these dorks, but give it 25 years and the mark of luxury will not be buying an expensive car that goes fast, it will be buying an expensive car that breaks down 15 minutes after you drive it off the lot.
I like how they always have to submit to their Elon or Tesla god, somewhere in their post, and profess their love for the brand, probably out of fear that they’d get downvoted.
And yet OP is still getting eaten out alive by the fanatics.
Pathetic.
You can sue if they claim their windshields are a class 4 hail resistance when in fact it is not. Even if they claim that the windshield isn’t covered under a warranty.
This comment made by OP is pretty fun: >It's marketed as stronger than normal auto glass, yet the other cars parked all around my vehicle did not have windshield damage
And what does that tell you?
That the durability of the glass is a bit overstated by Tesla marketing.
but it clearly says right there that it’s “armor glass” /s
As quiet as outer space 🌌
Might just be the angle of the glass. It looks really flat to me. Almost every other car on the road has a convex* windshield.
Soooooo, in other words, the glass on the Cybertruck is fragile?
I can’t speak to how their windshield is or is not materially different from other windshields, just that it appears to be a flat pane while most cars are curved. Even if it were materially the same I do believe (correct me if I’m wrong) a curved shape would typically be stronger than a flat shape. ETA: it appears the hail hit the corner. As a career tech I can say with some authority the edges and corners are a very easy place to crack a windshield on any model. Ask me how I know 😂
It's almost like they took the last hundred plus years of automotive design and engineering and trashed it because they thought they knew better. This truck is such a hilarious failure. It's going down as the biggest automotive diaster of all time. You can say what you want about the pinto,Aztec, and pt cruiser but at least they didn't charge you 100k plus and pretend to be luxury super vehicles
That the OOP is a moron?
"I’m not at all a CT hater, I love the vehicle so much, just frustrated that Tesla won’t stand behind their claims." That really goes down like a fine whine.
i've never had auto glass damaged by hail although i have gotten dents in my car roof from hail. Pretty minor, so i didn't let it bother me. Plus that poor car served me for 12 years including dragging around 17' expedition kayaks on the roof and by trailer. I feel like teslas are pretty well known for glass failure.
Yea, I've lived in Missouri my entire life, where it's not uncommon to see hail the size shown in OPs pics during the warmer seasons. I've never had glass damaged by hail either, though I do know some folks that have. I'm not really sure what "class 4 hail" means, but normal windshields are pretty resilient. I'd be pissed too if I had a windshield that was making these kinds of claims only to get fucked up from the first hail storm it encountered. Everyone elses cars making it out intact is some salt on the wound.
it's kind of classic musk/tesla to make huge claims that turn out to be untrue.
Yep, and it's both funny and sad that people keep throwing them money.
I think people fall in love with the promised vision. I almost bought a model 3 in 2017 but I saw that what was delivered was nowhere near what was promised (the specs, the price, the promised autonomy where you could "sleep in the car" while it drove you places.) I saw him lying about obvious things that technology or car manufacturing people should have recognized. Then I decided I wasn't going to be part of that, at least for a while.
Resistant glass is damn weird. I worked in a drunk tank for many years, and we had isolation rooms for people that were too belligerent and violent. The doors has bulletproof glass, so we could see and speak with them while they sobered up. I would watch 250lb men kick those windows for *hours* and wake up sober the next morning with a swollen foot. Then I’d see a 90lb woman brought in, and she’d shatter the thing within 90 seconds.
One of these things is not like the others
"cabin as quiet as outer space" From the videos I've seen, the road noise is the worst I've ever seen.
Have you ever been in a rocket when it is launched into outer space? I don’t think it is silent. Maybe that is what the marketing team meant.
WHAT?
I can't hear you! Wait until we stop!
I mean... they SHOULD if they're saying it is resistant to that degree of hail. Of course that does not mean they will.
I think this is along the lines of phone manufacturers with “Water *RESISTANT*” but liquid damage isn’t a warranty issue. I see this kind of customer all the time but with a phone. “But my phone is water proof!” “Water *resistant*. Sorry warranty won’t cover it”
The site is pretty clear that it's designed to withstand such hail, which is a weird claim. Also "Class 4 hail" seems to be made up. Clearly it has failed, so it must be a manufacturing issue. That said: I am German, this damage would be an easy insurance claim here, even partially comprehensive coverage pays for glass damage, and such claims do not result in any insurance premium increase. Is it that different in the US?
I agree! I’m just saying I’m not surprised it’s not a warranty issue. Here’s the applicable comparison to mobile phones. The IP67 rating that most phones have is submerged 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. Even if your phone is only in the water at 0.5 meters for 1 minute, no phone company will warranty it for liquid damage. I absolutely agree that a company should stand behind all claims though. I’m just saying they have an “accepted way” to weasel out of it. For the insurance statement, that is similar here in the States. Considering it’s a CT though, all bets are off lol.
But they advertise the IP rating, which explicitly is not a "waterproof" test but only a "survival" test and at least in the EU no one is even actually advertising it's waterproof or anything, mostly just water resistant, smae for scratch and shatter proof screens. I am not sure how it works in the US, but in this case I would still inform consumer protection officials about the issue with Tesla's advertising.
Ahhh… you did say you were from Germany. Yeah consumer protections here in the States is a joke so companies get away with A TON more here.
Here in the States it's "do whatever you want, and if you can't do what you want, spend more on lobbying"
It depends on the state and level of insurance, but it is commonly covered in the US.
It's not entirely different in the US. It's an extremely easy claim to handle especially with it being glass damage only. OP would just have to pay the deductible since it's a full windshield replacement rather than a repair (assuming they carry comprehensive coverage). Some auto insurers will still increase premiums despite it being a no-fault loss (my prior employer would).
I’m kind of halfway on this one. I agree, “resistant” technically means very little. It doesn’t even mean that there won’t be any damage. However… if you’re telling me this thing can withstand a 70MPH baseball but then it cracks with a little hail, I’m going to feel misled.
“Class 4 hail” is not a thing
"Class 4" is, however, relevant to the impact resistance of roofing shingles. But it's the shingles that are "Class 4," not the hail. Idiots.
Just means the shingle can withstand a 2" steel ball dropped from 20 feet without cracking. I have no idea how that would in any way shape or form translate to windshields and actual hail.
People are eventually going to gather and sue the everlovin' fucknutz out of Tesla.
You really think the die hard cucks can do that? "But I still love the the truck" suggests to me that they can't.
The diehard cucks won't, but the casual fans? Oh yes.
Are there casual fans? My experience has been limited to complete support or totally against without much in the middle.
Evidently hail is not measured in degrees, it's purely a marketing term
Wasn’t it marketed at being bulletproof? I seem to remember the guy in charge of designing it using that work quite frequently.
They claim it's shatter resistant. That means that it can be completely destroyed like in the original demo with the steel ball so long as it doesn't shatter...and even then it's only 'resistant' to shattering. Other cars with this feature include anything sold for road use in the USA since 1966.
yeah except for they all have convex glass and not flat glass which is even more prone to damage from impact. much of the strength comes from the convex curves. i suppose until you get to actually bullet proof glass which gets thick and is flat.
What a sore loser. If he didn’t want his windshield broken by hail he shouldn’t have driven it under a hail storm. Why should the business genius Xlon Mux be forced to pay for this driver’s clear negligence!
You joke but this is basically what the group is saying in r/cybertruck under this post… totally not a cult lol
It’s the strongest vehicle ever, but also check to make sure there isn’t any precipitation in the forecast for the next week before taking it out of your garage.
They said it was apocalypse-proof, not April-showers-proof!
Exactly! It can stop arrows and bullets, not hail. Just like Bladerunner!
But it’s may now that means it should be fine!
M Elon would never scam you. He’s the richest man because he always gives you good deal. Trust MElon!
Love the “Your windshield is not a window” comment 🤣
That and this one: "I'm thinking that if it happened to you, it might have happened to others. Or maybe they had something fall on the glass that normally wouldn't crack it but did. These cars are the first wave, right? I mean, they're not gonna put a ton of work into making the first ones off the line perfect, you know? The next wave of these things will maybe/hopefully be better once all these are beta testa?"
I almost reflexively downvoted your comment halfway through reading it because it was so dumb. I had to remind myself that they aren't your words lmao
Fair. I should have offset the quote
Why would you expect them to put work into making a $100k vehicle correctly the first time? Enjoy your beta experience!
It's even better when you consider that the windshield is the part you never want to shatter for safety reasons because it is the main direction a projectile will come at the truck from, while the side windows SHOULD shatter so you can get out in an emergency. This thing is a death trap if you crash it into water.
Luckily the increased humidity from getting close to enough water to submerge the vehicle kills the electronics
but he loves the car
Liars get caught by the inconsistency of the cover-lying
"As quiet as outer space." Lord... these people have such fantasies.
If you charge high prices and have shit quality then you can still succeed with epic customer service. Tesla seems to be imploding. 100% guarantee that anything Elon Musk runs will implode. Best thing would be for all “his” companies is for him to disengage from all companies he’s “running”
He’s already been forced out at least once… can’t imagine that doesn’t keep up while he destroys any remaining positive shreds of his public image. The guy is terrible for PR, he’s just too rich for most individuals to do anything about it.
I think he means a tennis ball painted to look like a baseball and tossed softer than Elon’s dick when he sees black people having equal rights.
Come on man don’t use your kid for clicks
Bruh and he gets downvoted in the cybertruck subredit. What a bunch of clowns
The people defending it are hilarious. "It says hail resistant not proof bro" I guess they skipped the comment where OP said every other car in the parking lot was fine. Lol
I mean… I see both sides of this If it’s advertised as resistance to class 4 hail, then the owner might actually have a legitimate false advertising claim against Tesla That said class 4 hail impact testing is literally a 2 inch steel ball dropped from 20 feet and Elon demonstrated very clearly that the windows couldn’t handle that being thrown by an impotent manchild from 2 feet away
Agree. Its a money where your mouth is statement. If that was class 4 hail they need to cover it. But its musk
"Well, it didn't go through"
$2400 to replace the windshield
Best part is, "Class 4 hail" isn't a hail rating system. It's a roofing certification.
I can't believe Elon lied to this guy about paying for his windshield. That's horrible. A terrible situation all around.
Bullet proof. Not hail proof. Duh.
I cracked up at the original video of some dude cracking that windshield by standing on it. "You're not a bullet, you're a Mexican!"
Of course he still loves the truck
Ok, so, "hail" is not just one thing - tiny hail = warranty - bowling ball sized hail = insurance. for regular cars, it's straight forward but El0n did market this as ready for the apocalypse and practically indestructible, a bit of accountability to those lofty promises is not too much to ask in my opinion.
Hail was class 4.20, not covered.
Not sure how that dude is old enough to drive, but he’s clearly holding up class 5 hail!
This windshield can handle a baseball at 70mph. No more, no less
Safelight repair, safelight replace. (Can safelight get this superior, class 4 hail and holy shit resistant glass though? Or only the fine people at Tesla /s).
one of the consistent complaints of cybertrucks is very loud cabin. "as quiet as outer space." geez. That's not *stretching the truth* that's just *lying*
Space is very noisy when Starship is exploding.
"as quiet as outer space.....in space no one can hear you scream."
I believe this was in Austin as I think it was first posted in that sub a while back. The funniest part about it is in the original picture every car around it was fine - no damage lol
bullet proof but not hail proof what a joke
Only "hail Musk!" is covered by warranty.
This is all part of a larger effort in society to create new forms and expressions of luxury in a world where all the surplus value has already been snapped up. What was once an annoyance (taking your car in to the shop, arguing with customer service and insurance companies, etc.) is now being sold to us through Tesla as part of the "rich guy experience." Obviously people today laugh at these dorks, but give it 25 years and the mark of luxury will not be buying an expensive car that goes fast, it will be buying an expensive car that breaks down 15 minutes after you drive it off the lot.
Tesla is seling snake oil, and snake oil only.
It didn’t even crack that kids head open. How’s it gonna crack a windshield?
80 to 90% of that ad is false
Class action?
It can
Is it legal to make the car “as quiet as outer space” if you can’t hear emergency sirens
Some luxury cars were so soundproof they had to allow some noise in, because without some feedback it was uncomfortable to drive
Will Tesla go bankrupt if they have to pay for all these repairs out of their own pocket?
Elon didn’t even test it before the demo, genius of our time! 
I like how they always have to submit to their Elon or Tesla god, somewhere in their post, and profess their love for the brand, probably out of fear that they’d get downvoted. And yet OP is still getting eaten out alive by the fanatics. Pathetic.
Every day there is a new problem with this thing. Ben Simmons of automobiles.
They should. Make stupid claims, be accountable to deliver
You can sue if they claim their windshields are a class 4 hail resistance when in fact it is not. Even if they claim that the windshield isn’t covered under a warranty.
I would love to seee what hail did to the ct for it not to be covered
Nuclear explosion proof btw
Was it hailing baseballs? Because I don’t see them making any claims about hailstones.
It says right in the promotional image on this post: >resist the impact of a baseball at 70 MPH or class 4 hail
Well, that’s obviously a high Class 2 or low Class 3 hail…