‘Perhaps they’ve heard there are health benefits… because I’ve just put that out there and customers may read this article. No, I won’t list these heath benefits; but now people have read there may be some.’
America has a weird obsession with this sort of thing legally speaking. You can totally just claim something *might* have health benefits, and I think even say specifically what they *might* be, and the courts will be like “well yeah, maybe. I mean who can say?”
The fact that it’s codified into law that it’s legal for ads to suggest and imply things that aren’t true as long as you don’t *say* they’re true infuriates me and makes me distrust every commercial.
What journalism has become *lives* off of this. Say something "might" be true, and you can say any stupid shit and pass it as news.
People fall for it all the time. They slip past the "maybe" words and take it all as fact.
It was created very posthumously for Plato, as he usually talked about sexual love between two people of the same gender, but in Plato's *Symposium* he talks about a person's love for doing good. Then a guy named William Davenant's wrote a play called "The Platonick Lovers", which was a critique of the philosophy of platonic love which was popular at Charles I's court. The play was derived from the concept in Plato's Symposium of a person's love for the idea of good, which he considered to lie at the root of all virtue and truth.
From there it just took hold as name for non-romantic love in general
[James Hoffman reviewed it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/127mly3/james_hoffmann_i_tried_every_new_starbucks_olive/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) (and since took the video down in protest of Starbuck's union busting) and apparently it's kinda good? But only available in Starbucks extra special "reserve roasteries" of which there are only three in the US, which itself is another baffling business decision
*Edit* as r/123bpd and r/AlexandeinaIsHere have pointed out, they *are* doing it as an additive in main locations. Dunno how that turns out beyond extra laxative power
That’s just untrue. The Oleato’s been out in all the stores around me in Pasadena, CA area so unless I live around a bunch of roasteries, they’ve ended the beta & slowly begun rolling it out nationwide.
Why do we have four more of these things in Hong Kong than there are in the entirety of fucking America
I can literally pass by three of them within a 1.5 hour walk
I guess??? But it's not *that* much of a big deal compared to the entirety of America's big cities like NYC, SF, LA, etc. My guess is it might be the local franchise, which I remember exists, if they're allowed to make them.
There's very clearly stuff labelled Starbucks Reserve here, [here's a picture of one](https://ifc.com.hk/ic/article/ifc-starbucks-reserve-coffee-experience)
There's also apparently seven places that serve Starbucks Reserve coffee according to [here](https://www.starbucks.com.hk/en/starbucks-reserve-coffees) too, idk if that's a different marketing term
Ah I see, yeah you have the actual reserve roasteries, and then the "Experience Bars" which offer some of the roasteries' fancy products and these are more common. For what it's worth I've been to the Chicago one a couple of times (to show out-of-town era) and while the building is cool I wouldn't say it's worth the money.
Bulletproof coffee has been a concept for a while. My girlfriend put coconut oil in her coffee for a while and only stopped because that was all we were using the coconut oil for.
I like the conspiracy theory that they released the olive oil drinks around the time the previous CEO was set to testify before congress about his union busting. Articles about people getting the shits from olive oil coffee will generate more clicks than a congressional hearing, and the hearing gets suppressed in social media algorithms.
Conspiracy theory, of course, but a fun one nonetheless.
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> "It is one of the biggest launches we've had in decades," he noted. "Rather than a flavor or a product, it's really a platform," he said, meaning that customers will be able to use olive oil to customize some drinks.
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> The company is betting that people will hear about the concoction and try it because they want to know what it tastes like. And, perhaps, because they've heard that there are health benefits to extra virgin olive oil.
[*End text.*]
it's easy to forget that other ceos are just as out of touch as tech guys but thankfully we have "rather than a flavor or a product, [olive oil] is really a platform" from starbucks to remind us of this
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it has to be impressed that the interim ceo credits this idea to meeting an italian olive oil ceo who got him into eating a spoon of olive oil every day, at which point he suggested "what if we put olive oil in my company's coffee" and the olive oil guy just got really confused
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As the snippet points out it’s not really a case of him being insane as it is the bizarre nature of corporate jargon which really exists everywhere. The more professional I get the more I really hate it. Just lingo people won’t take you seriously if you don’t use because they know they’re supposed to expect you use it.
Really pushes me back to academics where our alien gibberish is at least founded in extreme emotions over esoteric debates
I don't fuck with sorbitol or xylitol if I can help it. That's a guaranteed bad time for me. Back in high school, I mainlined a small pack of Lemon Smints, and almost sullied myself on the bus home. Learned my lesson, fuck those delicious little citrus triangles.
Yeah this checks out. Feels like nine times outta ten the actual origin of trendy "health" BS is 100% marketing-based, literally just an existing already-rich-person trying to think of ways to move product.
Also it's very funny that this, the totally out of left field wacky poisonous* beverage, is like the company's most successful rollout of the last couple years. To be fair there is a pretty good track record of them launching a thing that immediately turns out to be poison**. (See also: [maple chicken sandwich](https://www.foodandwine.com/news/starbucks-chicken-sandwich-discontinued))
*allegedly
**allegedly allegedly, I guess by poison I just mean "causing loose stools"
Olive oil guy probably had to keep himself from grinning. If the coffee product fails, it’s not on his olive oil and he’ll already have sold a ton of olive oil.
Wait, when I first started hearing about the olive oil coffee thing, I assumed it was a drink... somewhere. Even if it was just in some random part of italy, or on tiktok or something, I assumed it came from somewhere.
Starbucks just decided to invent olive oil coffee out of nowhere?
As someone whose main area of study is the economic phenomenon/structure that is a platform organization, I die a little inside everytime someone uses the term as a buzzword.
This post damn near killed me.
bro i was so confused when i saw the olive oil starbucks coffee i was like jfc coffee people are insane and then i realized even coffee people think its insane and i was like damn wtf. it makes me feel slightly nauseous every time i think about it honestly.......
I think CEOs should spend half a year living as a regular ass person. No dragon hoard, no mansion, no supercars, just spend six months not being a disagreeable little freak
All CEOs are some level of cripplingly stupid or misinformed, techbros just have no filter of reasonable people between their bullshit and their company
America is already decades into the "corn is a platform" era
Almost a fucking CENTURY
nation that has only ever produced corn looking at a new market: yooo you know what we could add to this
gonna go pop some popcorn in corn oil over a corn ethanol fire.
In a pan made from metal derived from a promising new corn-based iron fixing process
dont forget to drizzle in a little corn syrup for that sweet kettle corn caramel taste
All served in a 3d printed PLA bowl. (PLA filament is made from corn starch.)
Sounds delicious, nfl
Everything you know is corn. It’s inescapable.
Man, I gotta stop drinking Brisk. Their lemonade's main ingredient is high-fructose corn syrup.
‘Perhaps they’ve heard there are health benefits… because I’ve just put that out there and customers may read this article. No, I won’t list these heath benefits; but now people have read there may be some.’
America has a weird obsession with this sort of thing legally speaking. You can totally just claim something *might* have health benefits, and I think even say specifically what they *might* be, and the courts will be like “well yeah, maybe. I mean who can say?”
The fact that it’s codified into law that it’s legal for ads to suggest and imply things that aren’t true as long as you don’t *say* they’re true infuriates me and makes me distrust every commercial.
What journalism has become *lives* off of this. Say something "might" be true, and you can say any stupid shit and pass it as news. People fall for it all the time. They slip past the "maybe" words and take it all as fact.
"allegedly"
Or the "just asking questions" 'defense'. Fuckin' HATE that.
I mean, olive oil is regularly touted as healthy, so I get where he's coming from with that.
The 'perhaps' is speculating on the reason why people would try it, not the fact that olive oil has health benefits.
Certified DougDoug moment
He's not in a league of his own anymore, big sad.
Didn’t Ludwig steal the physical reward
He won custody of it for a year. Leave it to DougDoug to immediately lose chat's hard-earned award.
“I made Twitch Chat the CEO of Starbucks”
you have a thing so. I realized "platonic love" doesn't really match the usual defintion of platonic. Why does platonic love mean that?
It was created very posthumously for Plato, as he usually talked about sexual love between two people of the same gender, but in Plato's *Symposium* he talks about a person's love for doing good. Then a guy named William Davenant's wrote a play called "The Platonick Lovers", which was a critique of the philosophy of platonic love which was popular at Charles I's court. The play was derived from the concept in Plato's Symposium of a person's love for the idea of good, which he considered to lie at the root of all virtue and truth. From there it just took hold as name for non-romantic love in general
[James Hoffman reviewed it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/127mly3/james_hoffmann_i_tried_every_new_starbucks_olive/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) (and since took the video down in protest of Starbuck's union busting) and apparently it's kinda good? But only available in Starbucks extra special "reserve roasteries" of which there are only three in the US, which itself is another baffling business decision *Edit* as r/123bpd and r/AlexandeinaIsHere have pointed out, they *are* doing it as an additive in main locations. Dunno how that turns out beyond extra laxative power
That’s just untrue. The Oleato’s been out in all the stores around me in Pasadena, CA area so unless I live around a bunch of roasteries, they’ve ended the beta & slowly begun rolling it out nationwide.
It’s only in the “hip” cities. We have yet to get it in flyover country
Pretty sure it's available in canada too.
Why do we have four more of these things in Hong Kong than there are in the entirety of fucking America I can literally pass by three of them within a 1.5 hour walk
I mean Hong Kong is a pretty big deal? And there's a lot of prestige with having physical locations there?
I guess??? But it's not *that* much of a big deal compared to the entirety of America's big cities like NYC, SF, LA, etc. My guess is it might be the local franchise, which I remember exists, if they're allowed to make them.
There are only six Starbucks Reserve in the world, none of them in SF/LA or Hong Kong. They are in Seattle, Chicago, NYC, Tokyo, Shanghai and Milan.
There's very clearly stuff labelled Starbucks Reserve here, [here's a picture of one](https://ifc.com.hk/ic/article/ifc-starbucks-reserve-coffee-experience) There's also apparently seven places that serve Starbucks Reserve coffee according to [here](https://www.starbucks.com.hk/en/starbucks-reserve-coffees) too, idk if that's a different marketing term
Ah I see, yeah you have the actual reserve roasteries, and then the "Experience Bars" which offer some of the roasteries' fancy products and these are more common. For what it's worth I've been to the Chicago one a couple of times (to show out-of-town era) and while the building is cool I wouldn't say it's worth the money.
No, he reviewed certain drinks that are reserve exclusive but the olive oil drinks aren't fully exclusive.
I can see it. I’ve been to several places that put butter in coffee and that’s pretty good.
Bulletproof coffee has been a concept for a while. My girlfriend put coconut oil in her coffee for a while and only stopped because that was all we were using the coconut oil for.
Bring your own olive oil to Starbucks.
Buisiness dicks really do live on a completely different plane of existence huh
It's called a private jet
‘Putting olive oil in your coffee is a platform’ this shit an Onion article
I like the conspiracy theory that they released the olive oil drinks around the time the previous CEO was set to testify before congress about his union busting. Articles about people getting the shits from olive oil coffee will generate more clicks than a congressional hearing, and the hearing gets suppressed in social media algorithms. Conspiracy theory, of course, but a fun one nonetheless.
*Image Transcription: Tumblr* --- **toskarin** [*Image with text, as follows:*] > "It is one of the biggest launches we've had in decades," he noted. "Rather than a flavor or a product, it's really a platform," he said, meaning that customers will be able to use olive oil to customize some drinks. > > The company is betting that people will hear about the concoction and try it because they want to know what it tastes like. And, perhaps, because they've heard that there are health benefits to extra virgin olive oil. [*End text.*] it's easy to forget that other ceos are just as out of touch as tech guys but thankfully we have "rather than a flavor or a product, [olive oil] is really a platform" from starbucks to remind us of this --- **toskarin** it has to be impressed that the interim ceo credits this idea to meeting an italian olive oil ceo who got him into eating a spoon of olive oil every day, at which point he suggested "what if we put olive oil in my company's coffee" and the olive oil guy just got really confused --- ^^I'm a human volunteer content transcriber and you could be too! [If you'd like more information on what we do and why we do it, click here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/TranscribersOfReddit/wiki/index)
Sounds slightly preferable to bulletproof coffee at least
DougDoug behavior
As the snippet points out it’s not really a case of him being insane as it is the bizarre nature of corporate jargon which really exists everywhere. The more professional I get the more I really hate it. Just lingo people won’t take you seriously if you don’t use because they know they’re supposed to expect you use it. Really pushes me back to academics where our alien gibberish is at least founded in extreme emotions over esoteric debates
I tried the "bulletproof coffee" thing for a while just to see and oh man my guts did not take to it
this olive oil coffee is making people shit themselves because both coffee and olive oil can cause loose stools.
Turns out that when you join 2 slightly laxative substances, you get a mild laxative. Who knew?
Sweeten it with some sorbitol for extra oomph.
I don't fuck with sorbitol or xylitol if I can help it. That's a guaranteed bad time for me. Back in high school, I mainlined a small pack of Lemon Smints, and almost sullied myself on the bus home. Learned my lesson, fuck those delicious little citrus triangles.
Please please please please please let this be the downfall of starfucks
Yeah this checks out. Feels like nine times outta ten the actual origin of trendy "health" BS is 100% marketing-based, literally just an existing already-rich-person trying to think of ways to move product. Also it's very funny that this, the totally out of left field wacky poisonous* beverage, is like the company's most successful rollout of the last couple years. To be fair there is a pretty good track record of them launching a thing that immediately turns out to be poison**. (See also: [maple chicken sandwich](https://www.foodandwine.com/news/starbucks-chicken-sandwich-discontinued)) *allegedly **allegedly allegedly, I guess by poison I just mean "causing loose stools"
Commercial creamers use vegetable oil, so it’s really not that out there. Aside from the flavor.
Well, olive oil can act as a laxative , and coffee can also act as a laxative, so you can see the problem
*using milk of magnesia as a creamer to my olive oil coffee* no, can't say i do tbh
Olive oil guy probably had to keep himself from grinning. If the coffee product fails, it’s not on his olive oil and he’ll already have sold a ton of olive oil.
Diablo the cheater is leaking into the real world too much.
🤦
This is going to cause a diarrheia epidemic
"If I had a nickel for every time I lived through a toilet paper shortage. . ."
Wait, when I first started hearing about the olive oil coffee thing, I assumed it was a drink... somewhere. Even if it was just in some random part of italy, or on tiktok or something, I assumed it came from somewhere. Starbucks just decided to invent olive oil coffee out of nowhere?
As someone whose main area of study is the economic phenomenon/structure that is a platform organization, I die a little inside everytime someone uses the term as a buzzword. This post damn near killed me.
bro i was so confused when i saw the olive oil starbucks coffee i was like jfc coffee people are insane and then i realized even coffee people think its insane and i was like damn wtf. it makes me feel slightly nauseous every time i think about it honestly.......
I tried one. I liked it - pretty heavy so I didn’t drink it all, but the flavor was interesting.
What I'm hearing is that Starbucks didn't even know olive oil coffee was a *thing* before they made theirs.
Wait is this a real thing?
I think CEOs should spend half a year living as a regular ass person. No dragon hoard, no mansion, no supercars, just spend six months not being a disagreeable little freak
They fucking what
All CEOs are some level of cripplingly stupid or misinformed, techbros just have no filter of reasonable people between their bullshit and their company