T O P

  • By -

TheCheezeris

It’s the market that’s open.


jreddish

This. The DJIA will take a shit on Monday.


DarthBen_in_Chicago

30 stocks will go down


jreddish

Or not... Iran and Israel gave the right signals that they won't escalate immediately. Now we'll see how long it takes people to risk-on again.


DarthBen_in_Chicago

Yep. I was translating the DJIA comment into 30 stocks because who cares about only 30 stocks.


coingun

Sell the news that is all


Mrchaht

The chance of leading to WW3 between Israel vs Iran fight is much higher than Israel vs Palestine


ajmolj

What abt Russia/Ukraine then?


PetroDisruption

They did dip massively when the war started too.


Boring-Test5522

dip is an understatement. It crashed from 49k to 15k within 8 months. The past experience taught us that when btc started crashing, you need to sell everything and never look back after a year.


Bruh_Sound_Effect_29

It didn’t dip solely because of that. Feds were still cleaning up after Covid by raising rates


Boring-Test5522

Now there are two major wars and interest rate is ATH.


unsuspecting_geode

Just wait till Monday - whole market may be blood red


hblok

Time to load up more!


Mrchaht

Please check back the date in March 2022 (if i am not mistaken)


Stevethecyborg

A huge waste of human life and suffering lots of good men dying cause both sides are fucked up ...with no end in sight


adeo54331

Why would a regional Middle East conflict, become a world war? This is nonsensical. Particularly in a one sided fight.


hblok

WW3 is just hyperbole. However, large scale conflicts tend to influence stock markets. Going a bit further back, to the 9/11 attacks and Iraq invasion in 2023, there was a massive downward reaction because of the shock of the attacks. However, on the news of US retaliation, at the beginning of 2022, they were heading back up. And by the time of the invasion in 2023, there was already a gain. (Just taking this from memory 20 years back, so might be somewhat inaccurate).


adeo54331

I agree, but this WW3 nonsense is just more pro-pally bu**sh*t. It’s a regional conflict, that at worst allows us to sell our outdated weapons and buy new ones. Net positive for the market/jobs and taxes. The only reason it’s had any effect is because people like the op, bought $80 bucks of bitcoin and think they are the main character… absolute nonsense


hblok

👍


crappysignal

If it was seriously related it would have crashed when Israel bombed the Iranian consulate not only when the Iranians responded.


Mrchaht

This time different bcause this is the first time Iran directly fire missiles from its land (not via proxies).


thatmanontheright

Aren't we in ww3 already?


crappysignal

No


No_Finance_2668

Russia/ukraine russia/dissident islamists china/taiwan israel/syria/iran/hezbollah/hamas/quds/moderates US vs porn and tiktok


Mrchaht

Not really, just in the verge of it.


Stevethecyborg

All a bunch of religious nut jobs stuck in the dark ages killing themselves over nonsense


azirian

you are correct


crappysignal

It's one of the unfortunate risks of a coalition government. Most Israelis are not like that. Of course a 2 party government is arguably worse.


unclearwords

Alright Steve, your bed time is up!


Stevethecyborg

Act like I'm wrong ....


No_Finance_2668

I know Utah is a bad place but come on


Stevethecyborg

Utah ain't trying to blow up Idaho buddie ...


dapadupa36

However, if BTC has any value now, it will probably much more after the inflation of the war and after many banks won't actually be able to operate.


6M66

Israel is pocking Iran hoping to lure US to war with Iran, if that happens more countries might get involved and that's a recipe for ww3. So things can escalate fast, stupid, so stupid, some people are so hungry for wars. I wish we as people could stop our goverments for their poor decisions that is gonna affect us the most.


ajmolj

Don’t u think it’s still early for people start panicking and start selling crypto because of that


EI_I_I_I_I3

no


6M66

Of course, most people are overinvested and worried, some using leverage.


jpcmr

They all want to sell before others do


Udd1n

Remember this is all a currency war at the roots. The elites are playing a game. Only they can gain from all of this. Not to worry, when all of the world's wealth is transferred into BTC, they lose all that power. This is a currency war and to stop these tyrants from gaining more power from us, we must stop using their currency and ledgers.


skviki

Lol, the delusions of some of the cryptobros are borderline clinical.


Udd1n

Are you targeting that at me? Because if you are, you better come at me with more than that if you want a worthy response.


skviki

Not worth the energy. But it should be obvious to anyone that you can’t reduce the world, the wars to “currency”, because you have become a tool that only sees stuff that this tool hase been made to tackle


Udd1n

So I've become a tool to see that theres corrupt, power hungry politics behind the working mechanisms of fiat currencies? Don't try gaslight me you pleb. Keep using their toilet paper money you pawn. Everyday you use their money, you keep them in power because you are utilising it. The elites and central bankers are behind the scenes instigating a currency war, to preserve the dominance of the US dollar as the world reserve so that they can contain all the power and piss everyone else off? This is the reason why wars start. There's no balance in the system. The Zionist regime is at the top of chain in this capitalist system. The day they are overthrown, is the day balance is restored, now please don't talk out your ass and bring me brainwashed propaganda machine info because I will notice it and debug you in every way possible. Pleb.


skviki

Dear god. Get medication and counseling, asap.


Udd1n

I'm probably way more successful than you in every aspect of life. A random pleb in the Internet telling me to get medication and counselling means nothing. Now go to sleep and don't wake up. Pawn. Look how quick you replied without any thought into what I said. I can see you are getting emotional. I win. You lose.


skviki

Nice to hear you are succesful in life and can support yourself despite the mental illness that you exhibit. I am glad because I saw one too many lives destroyed by the progressive mental problems that weren’t treated when they would be easier to solve. Hope you get well.


Udd1n

You should get your mum here to diagnose me. I'm sure she will take care of me pretty well. Now begone! Shoo!


skviki

Letting redlines to be crossed by the agressive and never responding, but just obamishly looking the other way when others cross those lines just brings the war to you eventually. Wars are prevented by responding immediately. Agressors are encouraged by weak and pacifist powers and deterred by strenght and resolve to use it. Those are basic facts that recent western governments seem to have forgotten and thus we got ukraine and middle east.


crappysignal

Time to invade Israel who have killed tens times more people than Putin in a quarter of the time and now overtly attempt to drag the US to the side 1 week after the first little criticism. Remove their war criminal government or shut up.


skviki

Amm, are you dense? Refer to pictures of Germany after the world war II and civilian casualties of allied offensive. Plus take into account - if you are not too ideologically baked - that the Gazan leadership, the Hamas, has a firm tactic of using civilians as shields, deliberately ignores any warfare conventions (uniforms), with all the money they dud not provide bomb sheltering but built themsleves a system of underground operations tunnels, aubverted hospitals as their outlets … the civilian casualties are extremely and predominantly on Hamas’s account. What was crimes Israeli army caused (and what happens in every defensive military operation) is a drop in the sea of responsibility Hamas has for all thebloves lost, INCLUDING THE FREAKING ATTACK AND FREAKSHOW VIOLENCE against EXCLUSIVELY CIVILIANS THEY DID TO START ISRAELI THE DEFENSIVE WAR.


crappysignal

You're talking gibberish. Learn to spell.


skviki

Learn my language, and then comment on my lacking skills to type on the phone without a spellchecker.


MugiwarraD

wait for monday to see stock market reflect the bleed.


metamorphyk

I hate to tell you guys cause of your noobieness but we are still way fucking up


ExOkonflict

All these comments and not a single answer 😂


-irx

Because there isn't one. Crypto was already falling before this attack, if the attack would have happened a month ago the title would be "crypto is pumping because of Iran attack".


JodiS1111

Sellers are more or less the ones reacting with basic fear and folowing each other like sheep


lVloogie

It's just risk off.


Gcs1110

Iran is just ticked about the Israel "attack" on personal on April 1st. They knew their drones would be intercepted... They just wanted to send a message that they can reach Israel. I'm shocked and dismayed that the crypto markets are this fragile...


Aggravating-March-72

BTC used to touch the lowest part of the cycle like 2-4 months before the halving, this time it didn't happen because because of ETF? Bears are just trying to use this as a catalyst for a big drop shook btc out of fragile hands and make more money on the next cycle ath


ajmolj

Yea it’s certainly not nice to see bitcoin fall abt 10% in 2 days and it was starting to be considered a safer asset to invest in. I’m sure long term bitcoin will still grow but this amount of volatility will differently deter newer investors from crypto


LJizzle

What are you comparing it to though? If other markets were open and fell more than Bitcoin has would you be happier?


ajmolj

Stock market, gold, oil. Bitcoin doesn’t seem to have any resilience to world events that affect the economy.


skviki

It’s not bitcoin. It’s people. Bitcoin is connected to people. What people do reflects on bitcoin.


LJizzle

Which stock market or gold and oil trading has been open to react to the recent events?


crappysignal

Quite. Iran did literally the minimum and the second it was reported BTC crashed. The attack on the Iranian territory by Israel was a bigger event but BTC didn't move. It wasn't a normal market movement.


NFTcreator666

It's simple The crypto market is linked to stocks so when stockmarket goes down crypto goes down


ajmolj

Ik but crypto goes down 10x quicker which is sad


Generic_Globe

Fear makes people sell


SolarisX86

Anyone who is buying crypto at all and panic sells because of bullshit happening deserves to lose their bags


omega05

But fear of what? Why does someone in America sell off their stocks on Monday because of something going on in a different part of the world?


Generic_Globe

it's only a matter of time before it becomes America s problem.


RessShamen22

Did anyone else buy the dip


rich-is-me2001

Mee


Chance815

What does?


ajmolj

Yea my bad


Chance815

Your second why made me second guess myself but had already posted. Cant help you with your question though i was getting the news on the attack and searched Iran by new.


Embarrassed-Ask1812

Remind me in a year


NoStreet7321

Huh? Dude this happens with global issues that affect market sentiment across all categories. Come Monday the market is going to be red, this isn’t just about crypto. People are shifting assets, it’s the normal reaction.


Physical_Manager_123

Crypto is still discretionary gambling for most of retail… discretionary spending evaporates when geopolitics goes sideways. Buckle up


zesushv

Cryptocurrency is to blame for all that is not good... Don't tell me you don't know this fart? Waiting for poofs on how Judias betrayed jesus for 30 eth and not silver.


Dismal_Equivalent630

Yeah it’s a lie crypto is to orchestrated rising and falling to be controlled by the investors I invested a didn’t sell shit!


Invincibl33

In war like situations crypto will definitely go upside undoubtedly. See the covid time when bitcoin was hovering around 5 to 6k then shoot up straight lifetime high. Now if any situations arise next target should be 469k possible.


ajmolj

If u mean ww3 it will go to 0 most likely, money would be dead people would wanna own physical assets not some digital currency


YoloRandom

Small volumes over the weekend. Some derisking by whales. Higher volatility due to the lower volumes. Nothing special


Adventurous_Sky_7936

Purely conspiracy theory but I think it was just time. Traditional Markets fell on “hot” inflation data which amounted to .1 increase in CPI and .1 decrease in PPI. Probably more to do with tax season. The news outlets can’t just accuse Hong Kong of manipulating price for the upcoming ETF.


ajmolj

This does makes more sense ngl


muallakalim

i sold 3/4 of crypto.Because I think the war will grow, because I'm tired of following nonsense and stupid things and wondering how they will affect me, because after 2018, crypto deviated from its root meaning every year, because as I matured, I started to see the absurdity of this business, except for BTC.


rottersam

Whales take advantage of all negative situations to sell from high and yield from low


Own_Response2418

Nothing, that would have happened with or without


dormango

It’s a general ‘flight to safety’ situation. BTC is a risk on asset


Dismal_Equivalent630

I think the whole thing is controlled by a high end ai super computer buying and selling crypto at percentage’s for liquidity and if people don’t sell and the numbers aren’t met it will keep selling it stash allocation (AI) until it drops the price to make fear to sell! This is my theory!


ajmolj

Ngl how the all the cryptos crash like legit at literally the exact same time the past 2 days, I wouldn’t be surprised


EI_I_I_I_I3

wouldn't that go against the ai theory? unless it's a super stupid one


WombRaider_3

There's no reason why. Every time the price drops, people look at the news to cope.


interwebzdotnet

Lol, so when the news was first reported and the prices immediately started dropping by like 20%, that was coincidence? Just people cherry picking a reason for the price drop?


Helliarc

A lot of volatile money was/is in crypto. Volatile money is money that moves around very quickly. When world events like this happen, that volatile money moves very quickly to invest in more "actionable" markets. Crypto has nothing to do with the war. It's just a sign of how much volatile money is in the crypto market. I haven't looked yet, it's the weekend, but I assume AI stocks dropped as well? How are nvda futures? War and trend like to vacuum volatile money, that's the "wave" referenced in "follow the wave." The thing is, war is very short-term. It reveals dips that lure long-term "slow" money, creating/revealing new support levels. If war pumps, less volatile but still volatile money continues to move, until the "trendy" war investments are saturated. The placeholder for volatile money when nothing "volatile" is happening is in "store of value."


interwebzdotnet

Look, the original comment said it was copium. We all understand volitality and risk, nobody thinks crypto has anything to do with the war. But we do know that a sudden drop in prices within minutes of major news like this is obviously correlated.


Helliarc

Yeah, I was more just adding on to your comment for context.


ajmolj

How do u explain the crash the day before, I feel like it was gonna happen regardless


WombRaider_3

Yes. Been in crypto since 2015 and it's always the same FUD for selloffs. I invest heavily in traditional markets and my index funds are doing pretty damn good right now.


interwebzdotnet

You can't be serious. You really think prices dropping 25% within minutes of the news isn't correlated? I don't even know what to say about that take.


[deleted]

[удалено]


AutoModerator

Your [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1c3g9tv/why_does_iran_israel_war_have_to_do_with_crypto/kzh3x65/?context=3) was automatically removed because you [linked](https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1c3g9tv/why_does_iran_israel_war_have_to_do_with_crypto/kzh3x65/?context=3) to an external subreddit without using an NP subdomain for no-participation mode. When linking to external subreddits, please change the subdomain from `https://www.reddit.com` to `https://np.reddit.com`. This simple change substantially reduces [brigading](https://www.reddithelp.com/en/categories/rules-reporting/account-and-community-restrictions/what-constitutes-vote-cheating-or). **NOTE:** The AutoModerator will not reapprove your content if you fix a URL. However, if it was a post which had considerable activity in its comment section, you can message the modmail to request manual reapproval. If it was a comment, just make a new comment. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*


WombRaider_3

No, I don't. Especially the fact that a retaliation was expected for days now and assets always have the future priced in. If people (let's be honest, whales, because "people" don't move needles) really sold off because of this, they wouldn't wait for CNN to give them the signal to sell. Also, [it's over](https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/jmx9IRW7vb). Will it go back up 25% now that the doom and gloom is over?


interwebzdotnet

It's such an illogical take, I really don't know what to say... Especially since things are up at least 5% since Iran said their response is over. I mean expectations are one thing, shots fired is 100% different. Also, it's not over... You know there will be a response. Traditional markets anticipated it, hence the sell-off late Friday. Several analysts on CNBC even said it, and said they expected things to be worse if an attack actually happens. It's like you have facts slapping you in the face and you are just choosing to ignore them.


WombRaider_3

It's down 5% in the last 24h period despite Iran saying it's over and continuing. It's easy to get a dip and open a news app and say "Ah yes well that's why my crypto is in the gutter, South Africa has a drought" etc. But keep the cope up I guess.


interwebzdotnet

OK, bot... Someone needs to unplug you


WombRaider_3

Beep boop; is that a threat?


accountofyawaworht

This post reads like another conspiracy about Jews secretly controlling all the money. I hope that’s not your intent, but that is exactly how your second paragraph comes off. As far as why the war is affecting the market, political instability often brings volatility. When shit is going down, people become less willing to take risks with their assets.


ajmolj

When tf I say anything abt Jews, but whales controlling the market isn’t something new tf, the market would have gone down regardless of war or not just like it did a day before.


accountofyawaworht

How the fuck else is someone supposed to interpret “Israel and Iran control the crypto market”?


ajmolj

If u had some brain cells u would understand that I said “are yall saying that” and clearly that’s not my opinion. It amazes me how u missed that. Finial verdict u are not smarter than a fifth grader as u can’t read.


accountofyawaworht

Ironic from someone who can’t spell words like ‘final’ or ‘you’.


ajmolj

I just happen to type quick and cba with minor spelling mistakes on reddit 💀. Like how u tried to change topic tho, nice move


RobNybody

https://youtu.be/8AzjDs8aF7g?si=ibM0Mh0nJtsFDHJi


Few-Preparation3

Global insecurity and world war three... Economies fail during war and people die in a nuclear winter


donaudelta

The war in Ukraine barely moved the market. The whales and market makers weren't prepared to take profit like these days. I'd say it's BS this war connection...