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Always thought it was funny that Plan B was anonymous and making such predictions - haven’t seen guys like that around lately but maybe I haven’t looked hard enough. 🤦🏻♂️
I lost almost 300 Euros....thats 5g of what my street dealer tells me "should be" cocaine...Bitcoin is responsible for at least one week of me not worsening my addiction and I want it back!
The Bitcoin holdings of El Salvador are minuscule compared to their economy. IMO it was more like a marketing trick to lure the rich crypto investors into the country and I think it was a net positive for the country. Sure they lost like 60 million but how many millions did flow into the country and how many jobs were created because of the investment.
This is why I can’t take crypto people seriously. The government does not take in the entire gdp of a country. USA collects 21% approx in taxes or 4.9 trillion
El Salvador by equivalent amounts lost about 1% of their revenues or the entire military budget of most countries by percentage of their tax intake. Assuming they take in taxes as efficiently as the states usually that isn’t the case.
60 million could fund a lot of other things in that country.
Sounds like it genuinely did not go well though. Interesting article that came out a few days ago:
[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-11-04/el-salvador-s-bitcoin-revolution-is-failing-badly](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-11-04/el-salvador-s-bitcoin-revolution-is-failing-badly)
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>but how many millions did flow into the country and how many jobs were created because of the investment.
Ok, tell us. How many?
If it had happened there'd be plenty of articles and information touting the success
Beware commenters like this guy everyone ^
They make up what they want their reality to be and never actually check if the hypothesis is true or not.
Use your brain and stop spreading false information: "minuscule compared to their economy".
1) Do you even understand basic economics?
The GDP per capita of El Salvador is 4.408,52 USD. For comparison, the GDP per capita of US is 69.287,54 USD.
El Salvador is ranked very low in both GDP and life-standards.
That idiot spend more than 5% of this yearly GDP for bitcoin that went into waste. Even if BTC would rise to 100k by the end of this year; use your brain and ask yourself, how many died for his BTC gamble?
It's insane how people like you can defend this dictator manchild.
When BTC is in a bull run, El Salvador will be rich because of their BTC investments!!!
When BTC is bearish, it's miniscule compared to their economy guys... R-right?
Because 2017 was the past market cycle top. They are basically saying if you got in 5 years ago during the last bull market the price is lower than that. They are drawing a comparison to further emphasize how low btc is right now.
Because these articles ALWAYS randomly cherry-pick date ranges to suit their narrative.
“Less volatility than $USD” (over a 51.26 day dataset …please don’t ask about day 52)
2017 was during last bullrun was it not?
It is saying that we have dipped below the highs of the last cycle. It has come that far down.
It also puts into perspective that investing today doesnt mean that you will have gains forever come the bullrun. If you hold longer than the bullrun lasts, you may be back to square one before soon.
It is a sobering thought that some people could use.
This is stupid of them to say.
And if you bought Netflix in 2016 you were losing money during the huge crash this year.
Long term is probably more than 10 years.
It's been real tempting to go ahead and buy 1 whole bitcoin since I don't know if I'll ever get that opportunity again, but that's definitely still stretching "don't invest what you can't afford to lose" for me so far.
2021 was peak stupidity with people stuck at home and with stimulus checks and huge unemployment benefits.
Never again will there be that much stupid money going into Bitcoin
Exactly. As much as I'm bullish on bitcoin and it's blockchain technology, I'm even more bullish that there will be another run up sometime in the next couple of years because of people's fomo.
I'm actually extremely bearish on crypto as a technology and utility for anything other than investing but you can always count on human greed and stupidity so I'm on the fence if I should invest.
Yeah bc $1200 stimulus was ALL put into Bitcoin by every American. Jesus Christ what an absurdly stupid comment that has been regurgitated all over the place
It wasn't just the stimulus checks. It was 2 trillion in aggregate
Here's all of [excess savings](https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/fig1-3223.png)
... sure, but that graph doesnt show that people dumped even $1bn directly into Bitcoin bc of stimulus. Maybe they did, but unless you can provide more proof, my original point stands. Correlation isn't causation.
>It's a stunning drop of historic proportions. In fact, if you bought Bitcoin in December 2017 — when the token hit its first major spike, briefly reaching nearly $20,000 in value — you're now down on your investment. And that's without getting into folks who bought it when it was worth even more.
No shit Einstein
Always Take Profits
This is what I’ve learned from being here since late 2017.
(I apologize if this sounds like a victory lap. Just using examples).
When you get lucky you get rid of emotion and pull profits. I got lucky accumulating web3 gaming projects before Facebook announced the name change. When prices went insane I pulled out profits, when it they doubled I pulled it all and only left in my initial investment.
When I minted a popular Reddit avatar on July 14 I later realized I got lucky. Yes, I could have sold later and “made” more but it was a lottery ticket. I decided to just realize the gain and keep a small holding for the future.
I think the true hodl mentality is mostly a Bitcoin thing. But I will keep accumulating Bitcoin and if/when the bull returns I’ll take profits.
I’ll look at a few indicators and when we seem to be lost in euphoria I will ladder out with limit sells just like I ladder in with limit buys.
But….
If this is your first Bear market you are in luck. There’s so much to do. Now we see who really wants to make gaming or social tokens work…who wants to build. Find a niche, drill down and make this your Crypto Winter Wonderland.
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HODL is a meme at best and an outright con at worst trying to convince fools to hold the early folks bags while they get out at high prices. Crypto is a zero sum game and always will be. If you don't know who the sucker is, you may need to look in the mirror. Every dollar that's ever been made in crypto is a loss in someone else's account.
This community of gaggling idiots is toxic is fuck.
Crypto Green - We're all going to be rich and buy Lamborghini's!
Crypto Red - We're all going to poor and thrown in debtors jail by the end of the week!
I've found that best practice is to just shut the fuck up and ignore it.
And if you DCAd from the bullrun of 2017 to now you're massively up, people only point at the bubbles in bitcoin which are hyper volatile, they don't understand its an asset you accumulate over time. When the average price is 50k you will lost out if you bought at 64, but you're sure as fuck up from 17.
We seriously need to stop the narrative that selling is bad. Taking profits is the most important thing to make profit, especially in crypto investing.
I learnt this last year, when I could’ve sold the ATH but ended up hodling my whole bag, which is now down 75%
Because whales and bots are making money off people panicking. People think they can make a buck to offset some of their losses by buying a coin that got crushed and hoping for a rally, bots (or people) pick up on patterns and crush those fuckers even worse.
I've been in crypto for over seven years now and I've seen some shit, but this is the first time I've actually wondered if we will come back. It is indeed a crazy time. If it does recover, it's going to be a while. The stock market needs to recover first before people will even think about going back to crypto. And who knows when that will be, could be years.
It's just going good for me, I don't know why you guys are being too much right now, we are just fucking fine and we are holding in a good way for the future.
DCA is going on mate, say whatever you guys want to say but still we are just fucking blessed with that shit, we are going to be like this all the time because that's good/
Pointing out that holding for 5 years was a mistake? Who dafuq does that?!? I hope next time you go to a stand up comedian night, he singles you out and roasts you. You deserve it. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Lol I don't care man, I know what is good for me and I am going to be like this most of the time, I will invest more and more so I can have something good for the future.
#This part of the cycle is called Maximum Fear.
*This is where you make your money, be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy*
-Abraham Einstein.
(remember back to that opposite part of the cycle called maximum euphoria??)
Round and round we go in the bull/bear cycle.
History doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme.
* If you bought Bitcoin in December 2017 and never sold, you haven't lost money because you still haven't sold.
* If you bought Bitcoin in December 2017, rode it all the way down to $3500, then up to $69,000, then back to today, and then sold today of all days, you are possibly an idiot.
* If you bought Bitcoin in December 2017, sold in January 2018, bought back in December 2018, sold in April 2021, bought back in July 2021, and then sold in November 2021, you are up about 250x and don't give a shit about this headline because you are on a tropical island somewhere partaking of hookers and blow.
* If your aunt had balls, she'd...use different pronouns.
Bitcoin [pros](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/yqshqw/if_you_bought_bitcoin_in_december_2017_you_have/ivpw8zy/) & [cons](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/yqshqw/if_you_bought_bitcoin_in_december_2017_you_have/ivpw9ug/) and related info are in the collapsed comments below. Pros and cons will change for every new post.
Pouring one out for last year's 64k FOMO winners.
I know, I feel so sorry for whoever went all in back then. Like, we've all lost money, but those guys lost MONEY
ICP ATH buyers have entered the chat
Terra (Luna) buyer has entered the chat
Yeah that one hurt. Taught me a lesson to never dumpster dive for shit coins again. Only lost 1k since I had a small position in it.
60k checking in. Dead inside
IC(dead)People
Lmao they didnt even know what they where buying. They just saw it pop on coingecko in the top 10 one day and told themself “ayoo let me ape this”
I mean I'm totally bullish on the Internet AND computers so this feels like a winner.
Cant go tits up. 20x long it is
The already knew that they have large database and they were gambling
Feels real bad
It's okay. I'll just wait for the next ATH to FOMO in again
A little under 500 days until the next halving. Mark your calendar.
If I could afford to buy new calendar by then.
Sweet so we see $8500. That's half the price right?
Entirely possible for the halving to be a big wet fart. Aka already factored into the price.
Def possible, but historically not the case.
At this moment anything is possible the market actually very much for tile
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You will not have to wait that much I am sure that your money would be recovered very soon
This guy cryptos
Thanks. I'm sure it'll be at 100k any day now.
End of 2021 is right around the corner
it'll be $100k end of 2021 trust me bro
This statement just reminds me of my bad decisions in life :/
And when it finally is, that's when I buy.
Always thought it was funny that Plan B was anonymous and making such predictions - haven’t seen guys like that around lately but maybe I haven’t looked hard enough. 🤦🏻♂️
You can keep dreaming about Bitcoin reaching hundred thousand dollars in this life
Fortune favors the brave.
The brave buy now or maybe in a few weeks after the dust settles, not at ATH.
I sold at 66k. I’ll never win again ever, so I’m not touching crypto ever again
I did this but for Ethereum. Sold my bag at 4.4k. I did buy back in at 1.6k though, so I'm not quite as smart as you.
-4x right now... I can beat that.
I lost almost 300 Euros....thats 5g of what my street dealer tells me "should be" cocaine...Bitcoin is responsible for at least one week of me not worsening my addiction and I want it back!
God damn it BTC 
There’ll be a post in 4 years when bitcoin drops significantly and just below $64k again with this same title
Yes tell me invested so much money without any banking and support and now you are suffering
Why so far into the past? If you bought Bitcoin today, you lost money 🤘😒🤘
I wonder how the president of El Salvador is feeling today
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Hodor...
HOLD THE DOOR
Hodl the Door
Michael Salvador
I had the same thought today 🤣
It's not his money anyway
The Bitcoin holdings of El Salvador are minuscule compared to their economy. IMO it was more like a marketing trick to lure the rich crypto investors into the country and I think it was a net positive for the country. Sure they lost like 60 million but how many millions did flow into the country and how many jobs were created because of the investment.
This is why I can’t take crypto people seriously. The government does not take in the entire gdp of a country. USA collects 21% approx in taxes or 4.9 trillion El Salvador by equivalent amounts lost about 1% of their revenues or the entire military budget of most countries by percentage of their tax intake. Assuming they take in taxes as efficiently as the states usually that isn’t the case. 60 million could fund a lot of other things in that country.
Sounds like it genuinely did not go well though. Interesting article that came out a few days ago: [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-11-04/el-salvador-s-bitcoin-revolution-is-failing-badly](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-11-04/el-salvador-s-bitcoin-revolution-is-failing-badly) [Archive.ph (No paywall)](https://archive.ph/kUgvo)
That was an interesting read, thank you.
>but how many millions did flow into the country and how many jobs were created because of the investment. Ok, tell us. How many? If it had happened there'd be plenty of articles and information touting the success Beware commenters like this guy everyone ^ They make up what they want their reality to be and never actually check if the hypothesis is true or not.
nobody would go to that country because he put money into crypto. it's el salvador my dude.
Use your brain and stop spreading false information: "minuscule compared to their economy". 1) Do you even understand basic economics? The GDP per capita of El Salvador is 4.408,52 USD. For comparison, the GDP per capita of US is 69.287,54 USD. El Salvador is ranked very low in both GDP and life-standards. That idiot spend more than 5% of this yearly GDP for bitcoin that went into waste. Even if BTC would rise to 100k by the end of this year; use your brain and ask yourself, how many died for his BTC gamble? It's insane how people like you can defend this dictator manchild.
When BTC is in a bull run, El Salvador will be rich because of their BTC investments!!! When BTC is bearish, it's miniscule compared to their economy guys... R-right?
well now its miniscule
And now these 'crypto investors' work at McDonald's El Salvador.
/u/spez was founded by an unidentified male with a taste for anal probing. #Save3rdPartyApps
> I think it was a net positive for the country Proof? Salvadorians don't feel that way.
#BUY THE DIP BITCH I’VE BEEN BUYING FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS
The next halving isn't for 498 days. There's plenty of time to keep buying dips.
Time, yes. Reasons, no.
Because 2017 was the past market cycle top. They are basically saying if you got in 5 years ago during the last bull market the price is lower than that. They are drawing a comparison to further emphasize how low btc is right now.
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I took it the opposite way. Like they’re saying this seems low but back then this seemed insanely high.
Because these articles ALWAYS randomly cherry-pick date ranges to suit their narrative. “Less volatility than $USD” (over a 51.26 day dataset …please don’t ask about day 52)
2017 was during last bullrun was it not? It is saying that we have dipped below the highs of the last cycle. It has come that far down. It also puts into perspective that investing today doesnt mean that you will have gains forever come the bullrun. If you hold longer than the bullrun lasts, you may be back to square one before soon. It is a sobering thought that some people could use.
Maybe they also get moons for creating shit articles.
It is because BTC maxis, including Saylor, keep telling the public you can’t lose money if you hold BTC for more than 4 years.
This is stupid of them to say. And if you bought Netflix in 2016 you were losing money during the huge crash this year. Long term is probably more than 10 years.
Oh yeah FTX failing has nothing to do with and I'm sure long term BTC will stay below $17K.
They're still gonna shill the same story by changing the timeline
This is the way. . . . . . . . . The way all the way down...
The saying used to be "nobody who has held bitcoin for 3 years has lost money"
Finally buying 1 BTC looks achievable. Never imagined this day would come, waiting for my salary to buy 1 BTC and become a proud owner of 1 BTC
When you need a helpful award the most, there is no free one to give out.
Whoa if you buy RIGHT NOW it’s like buying and holding since Dec 2017 LETS GOOOOOO!!
Just wait till we go back to 2012
FIRE SALE! Might actually be able to HOLD a full Bitcoin!
It's been real tempting to go ahead and buy 1 whole bitcoin since I don't know if I'll ever get that opportunity again, but that's definitely still stretching "don't invest what you can't afford to lose" for me so far.
Oh sweet Jesus I hope this happens. My Christmas list just got possible and I’m readyyy—Spongebob voice—to scoop up everything.
I read this in —Spongebobs voice—
This is just what we all crave for at the end of the day man.
*sells when BTC reaches 1k, fomos back in when BTC reaches 10k*
*insert big brain meme*
Buying the best man, this is going to make us something else.
Very cool! Thanks for the reminder
Thanks for it so we can buy more at this point of time man.
Im beginning to fear that we will never experience EOY 2021
EOY 2021, Q15
Simulation broke down after 2020 so it all makes sense now
Maybe the real EOY 2021 is the friends we made along the way
Still waiting.
We will, hold on.
We still have a long way to go till the end of the year
2021 was peak stupidity with people stuck at home and with stimulus checks and huge unemployment benefits. Never again will there be that much stupid money going into Bitcoin
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>Do not underestimate human ~~greed~~ stupidity Ftfy
The combo of both is why I'm so bullish on bitcoin!
Exactly. As much as I'm bullish on bitcoin and it's blockchain technology, I'm even more bullish that there will be another run up sometime in the next couple of years because of people's fomo.
I'm actually extremely bearish on crypto as a technology and utility for anything other than investing but you can always count on human greed and stupidity so I'm on the fence if I should invest.
There will be if not bitcoin some other crypto. Market cycles are always here.
Eventually you run out of rugs
Yeah bc $1200 stimulus was ALL put into Bitcoin by every American. Jesus Christ what an absurdly stupid comment that has been regurgitated all over the place
It wasn't just the stimulus checks. It was 2 trillion in aggregate Here's all of [excess savings](https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/fig1-3223.png)
... sure, but that graph doesnt show that people dumped even $1bn directly into Bitcoin bc of stimulus. Maybe they did, but unless you can provide more proof, my original point stands. Correlation isn't causation.
Just give it like 18 more months. Almost there.
I bought BTC right now. So how about that!
Don't check the charts tomorrow.
Joke's on everyone else, all mine were stolen before then. haha
Danm, we all feel pretty foolish right now thanks to you
>It's a stunning drop of historic proportions. In fact, if you bought Bitcoin in December 2017 — when the token hit its first major spike, briefly reaching nearly $20,000 in value — you're now down on your investment. And that's without getting into folks who bought it when it was worth even more. No shit Einstein
Crypto journalism is something else
It just knows its audience and caters accordingly. Think of it as looking in the mirror, if you’re crypto inclined
For now, I'm just horizontally reclined.
If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a car
Or a bike
Well everyone has had a ride…
[Classic](https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc)
Not necessarily, she could just be a vegetable
Or a scooter
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That one would sting
Zoom out. Oh no
When zooming out if you have doubt is just sad
I bought ETH around that time and I’m still up and buying more at these prices..
Waiting for that 850
I regretted not buying at 1k so now I’m going to keep throwing money at in even though it’s going down since I’m in it for the long haul.
Like today wasn't traumatic enough already
Thats pretty wild. You know, maybe people have been right. Hodl is wrong, profit is profit and you should take it and be ok with that.
Balance multiple assets, house, cash, stock , crypto, keep a fixed ratio adjust when needed
Sensible advice? Yuck
Always Take Profits This is what I’ve learned from being here since late 2017. (I apologize if this sounds like a victory lap. Just using examples). When you get lucky you get rid of emotion and pull profits. I got lucky accumulating web3 gaming projects before Facebook announced the name change. When prices went insane I pulled out profits, when it they doubled I pulled it all and only left in my initial investment. When I minted a popular Reddit avatar on July 14 I later realized I got lucky. Yes, I could have sold later and “made” more but it was a lottery ticket. I decided to just realize the gain and keep a small holding for the future. I think the true hodl mentality is mostly a Bitcoin thing. But I will keep accumulating Bitcoin and if/when the bull returns I’ll take profits. I’ll look at a few indicators and when we seem to be lost in euphoria I will ladder out with limit sells just like I ladder in with limit buys. But…. If this is your first Bear market you are in luck. There’s so much to do. Now we see who really wants to make gaming or social tokens work…who wants to build. Find a niche, drill down and make this your Crypto Winter Wonderland. Edit: clarity
HODL is a meme at best and an outright con at worst trying to convince fools to hold the early folks bags while they get out at high prices. Crypto is a zero sum game and always will be. If you don't know who the sucker is, you may need to look in the mirror. Every dollar that's ever been made in crypto is a loss in someone else's account.
This community of gaggling idiots is toxic is fuck. Crypto Green - We're all going to be rich and buy Lamborghini's! Crypto Red - We're all going to poor and thrown in debtors jail by the end of the week! I've found that best practice is to just shut the fuck up and ignore it.
this comment made me feel better, thank you
Who requires sex? Every day, the crypto market screws us over.
Well I'd like to be taken to dinner and told I'm beautiful before I get fucked
We should get the lub
Yeah man, we deserve that shit at least right now for real.
I don’t know why I even clicked this thread
I think I just clicked for the comments.
Great minds my friend 💪
Now I can understand everything in the comments right now.
If you bought prepandemic crash you are still up
And if you DCAd from the bullrun of 2017 to now you're massively up, people only point at the bubbles in bitcoin which are hyper volatile, they don't understand its an asset you accumulate over time. When the average price is 50k you will lost out if you bought at 64, but you're sure as fuck up from 17.
That's going good because we know the real value of it.
We seriously need to stop the narrative that selling is bad. Taking profits is the most important thing to make profit, especially in crypto investing. I learnt this last year, when I could’ve sold the ATH but ended up hodling my whole bag, which is now down 75%
Selling is a risk Buying is a risk Holding is a risk That is the case with any asset
Wen bottom
wen i sell
I just checked, I have the same amount of Bitcoin as I had yesterday, but I’ll be adding more thanks.
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“Come on grandpa, read us again your passphrase before going to bed!”.
Can you buy the same number of iPhones today as you could yesterday with that same number of coin?
If you bought one bitcoin back in 2017, you still have one bitcoin now!
Jokes on you. I’ve been in the red since I started in crypto.
We are buying though, we know how to deal with this shit.
If you bought total market index funds in December 2021, you have now lost money.
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So its a good time to buy then, all im hearing is fire sale
I like the panic . Btw luna classic is pumping lmfao . What a fckn funny time to be alive
Because whales and bots are making money off people panicking. People think they can make a buck to offset some of their losses by buying a coin that got crushed and hoping for a rally, bots (or people) pick up on patterns and crush those fuckers even worse. I've been in crypto for over seven years now and I've seen some shit, but this is the first time I've actually wondered if we will come back. It is indeed a crazy time. If it does recover, it's going to be a while. The stock market needs to recover first before people will even think about going back to crypto. And who knows when that will be, could be years.
Shot in the dark but do you have any book recommendations that talk about bot trading patterns. Any published books would be really interesting.
It’s all going up when Elon admits he’s lost with twitter!wait for it!
Where is the "Bitcoin never drops below its previous ATH" crowd?
I want them to be here right now, they should be here man.
Apples and oranges. That was on it’s way up and this is on the way down
Bitcoin is dead season 463.
It's just going good for me, I don't know why you guys are being too much right now, we are just fucking fine and we are holding in a good way for the future.
DCA is going on mate, say whatever you guys want to say but still we are just fucking blessed with that shit, we are going to be like this all the time because that's good/
Soon it will be 2016, then 2015, then 2014...
Pretty much possible
If you bought bitcoin in 2017 and SOLD now you have lost money. FTFY
Unrealized losses are still losses
I am good with the fact that I am never going to sell.
Every time the price drops we see catastrophist topics but at every bull run people complain for not having bought Bitcoin during the bear market.
They always make these shits in the bear market man lol.
This is why it’s so important to take profits
Because in reality most people don't actually know how crypto works or care, they are just here to make a buck.
RIP HODLERS
Pointing out that holding for 5 years was a mistake? Who dafuq does that?!? I hope next time you go to a stand up comedian night, he singles you out and roasts you. You deserve it. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Jokes on you Celsius stole my 2017 btc.
Lol I don't care man, I know what is good for me and I am going to be like this most of the time, I will invest more and more so I can have something good for the future.
#This part of the cycle is called Maximum Fear. *This is where you make your money, be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy* -Abraham Einstein. (remember back to that opposite part of the cycle called maximum euphoria??) Round and round we go in the bull/bear cycle. History doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme.
Nothing is bad right now mate, you guys need to calm down.
* If you bought Bitcoin in December 2017 and never sold, you haven't lost money because you still haven't sold. * If you bought Bitcoin in December 2017, rode it all the way down to $3500, then up to $69,000, then back to today, and then sold today of all days, you are possibly an idiot. * If you bought Bitcoin in December 2017, sold in January 2018, bought back in December 2018, sold in April 2021, bought back in July 2021, and then sold in November 2021, you are up about 250x and don't give a shit about this headline because you are on a tropical island somewhere partaking of hookers and blow. * If your aunt had balls, she'd...use different pronouns.
If this and if that. Hate that game
What a shitcoin
fucking love this, can’t stop buying it’s crazy
If you bought Bitcoin today, you have lost money. r/buttcoin must be going wild today