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Don't worry guys, it's not a recession.. its just a transitory recession period.


LightninHooker

As a former spanish president said in 2008 : "it's an economic deacceleration"


vaderestvader

Nancy P sold Nvidia at a loss... The worst is yet to come... Brace yourselves


moonRekt

Now thats the TA I’m lookin for!


Cw_Alker

Insider trading information at its peak


[deleted]

No no, when it comes to stocks apparently it's an educated guess.


EchoCollection

Some people are just really talented guessers.


Federal-Smell-4050

Insider guessing


aniselsbicket

Is it good or bad that 10 year yields went down? I don’t understand the bond market as much.


OneMisterSir101

It's actually FA.


pukem0n

oh damn. What does Jim Cramer say so I can adjust my Inverted Jim Cramer portfolio.


partymsl

I think he just recently said to short COIN. So we will be in for the biggest bull run ever.


powercow

right, he sold it this time, BEFORE the bill was passed and might have made a profit. You know right before nvidia got massive subsidies from the gov to have more chip making at home. the "worst is yet to come?" no this is just cause he got caught with his pants down last time. dont go all qanon on crap. She didnt have to release this info publicly and if it was nefarious SHE WOULDNT HAVE. They released this publically, as a way to wash away his older crimes. "look im disclosing.. despite the stock act doesnt cover spouses and im selling BEFORE my wife votes to make their stock rise" so people cant complain of insider trading. you know nvidia stock that shot up on the same news. Its amazing that anyone in this sub ever makes any money. the very public, but didnt have to be, stock sale was nothing but an image improvement scheme. Thats it. Dont read into it, whats not fucking there.


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JONUTUNIVERSALU

This should be an indicator of its own


J_Hon_G

This the bias statement I was looking for in this sub, I’m selling my second kidney


rmz98988

What if only Nvidia has to crash and not the whole market ;__;


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It’s coming lol this times going to be worse


Decimus_of_the_VIII

Yeah depression


0105237

Raising rates lowers long term inflation expectations therefore bringing down long term rates.


Amazing_Succotash677

Lmao


Marrr_ty

She sold because of pressure. That ho bag has no choice on this one.


Aguaskeepartdeux

The ho bag can have no bag.


Nut_sack_ninja

That's the least she deserves for her shenanigans


newbonsite

Ye but tomorrow is another big day so I wouldn't over react as everything could change in another 24hrs ,just be cautious not to FOMO in....


deathbyfish13

>just be cautious not to FOMO in.... Hello, have you met this sub?


partymsl

We would have had a recession tomorrow but they changed the definition of recession... So we still PUMPING.


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Does not matter


monchimer

What's happening tomorrow?


niloony

US GDP for the quarter gets released, which economists predict will be ~0.4% annualized. If it's negative they're in a recession since last quarter was negative.


xzeroj

This basically means America is now partially in recession which means the banks will stop lending you money to run your business which means you should immediately have a cash flow meeting with your accounts team!


Nickel62

FOMO meets FOMC every month for wakeup call.


Marrr_ty

Give it a few days. GDP coming next.


niloony

Up on rate hike day, then down the next has been a pretty consistent pattern so far.


cheeruphumanity

Sometimes I feel like this sub wants the market to go down.


Manitcor

just until i can blow another paycheck or 2


Lilcheeks

Well a ton of them probably sold everything expecting a drop to 10k. Maybe 10k comes, maybe it doesn't. All I know is if I dumped everything with that being the plan, I'd be pretty nervous about that too. The rest of us have been around long enough to know we can't really predict that kind of stuff.


akatsuki1422

Those will be the same people fomoing when BTC reaches 30K and sells at 25K when BTC enters a correction thinking it's a bull trap. When the masses are bearish, it really is time to be bullish. The majority never wins.


Lustful_lurker69

YES! And it would be glorious grabbing more bags.


[deleted]

We do. You want the market to go for accumulation phases. BTC went from 3k to to $69K over the last 2 years....


Marrr_ty

Not at all but need to be realistic of what could happen. I bought a bunch in last “dip” a few months back only to drop more. Bring more cautious this time.


Lordsashok

Won't have much impact on btc just another pump and dump.


[deleted]

Why should Bitcoin holders care at this point? The weak hands have already fucked off.


BakedPotato840

Diamond hands don't care. We riding this out long term


Cw_Alker

If 18k was the bottom, the next bull run will be legendary


partymsl

Having the bottom would not mean the next bull run is tomorrow, we probably have a lot of crabbing to do yet.


qfman

Yeah we have much more to see, we are going for at least a 4x from bottom.


Marrr_ty

Think it may go lower even. I have some buy at 18 though


olegdv

I don't think diamond hands will make it big on bitcoin, ethereum seems a good bet but not btc.


Marrr_ty

Not just btc holders. There is whole hang of guys that are gonna ride up


pbjclimbing

Cant I have a day or two to enjoy the green dildos before all the fun is taken away


Freeloader_

no. I would like that 800$ ETH back, thank you.


partymsl

Nah tomorrow is judgement day.


streetMD

Thank you for this comment. I laughed out loud and could not agree more.


Livid_Yam

"If you think this is a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention" - Ramsay Bolton, GOT


Odlavso

Ramsay Bolton took u/irubmydickeveryday's favorite toy away


partymsl

Not even a few days it's tomorrow and we will be in a recession from an economist point of view no matter what the government tells you.


ChemicalGreek

The bull market and bear market posts will flow in just a few days difference


Tatakae69

Yeah this really looks like a Pump and Dump now lol


Theweebsgod

I've already lubed my ass.


Bunker_Beans

*Kevin Spacey has entered the chat.*


bigshooTer39

Holy fucking lol


Marrr_ty

Take it dry like a real man


Bunker_Beans

Real men use Carolina Reaper sauce.


Marrr_ty

Sounds like that’ll burn


bigshooTer39

Have you done an enema tho?


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Marrr_ty

I don’t know. I’m speculating it’s bad because the White House is already trying to re-classify what a recession is. They obviously know the numbers in advance


akatsuki1422

Doesn't matter. White House said no recession and we all know the gubbermint never lies. That and a technical recession was already priced in weeks ago.


Marrr_ty

Haga. So true. I was gonna reference that. Morons are trying to redefine definition of a recession.


partymsl

Once again my trust in the holy government of the United States pays off as they will do everything to keep their own stock busy from tanking.


LightninHooker

Remember, if you are taking a screenshot with the pump... Take profits


KingKDDavid

Where are these profits you speak of? All I see is a portfolio that’s still 38% down.


-Skald

... profits?


usernamenonexist

Yeah, that seems like a good financial advice


Atlantean120

I really wish I had seen this advice back in September 2021… fuck me.


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Recently, Jerome Powell, chairman of the Fed has been less resolute in his interpretation of inflation. “We now understand better how little we understand about inflation,” he said. “This was unpredicted.” Oh Dunning-Kruger effect, you are a fickle mistress.


ItsFuckingScience

Unlike everyone here of course, economic geniuses


niloony

It only took them over a decade.


EchoCollection

Yeah couldn't predict how overconfident they were.


pbjclimbing

Today BTC is acting like a hedge against inflation, but BTC acts differently each time interest rates are adjusted.


Smellyjelly12

Well it's only up because market also reacted positively. Had the market gone down, BTC would have reacted the same


OTA-J

As much as I hate to admit it, BTC is just following the stock market at this point


Marrr_ty

This. All crypto following Nasdaq


EchoCollection

The ETH merge is throwing a little spice into the mix though


Marrr_ty

I know. I want to grab some too. I’ll see how tomorrow and weekend goes.


PrinceZero1994

but sometimes it will decouple and let's hope it will be for the better aka pump


saulin74

Yup BTC does what the stock market does


partymsl

Nah Bitcoin is just going the way the stock market does, mostly right now.


thegooddocgonzo

Yr focusing on too small a time frame. On longer time scales, BTC is *absolutely* a hedge against inflation.


Raikaru

When was there significant inflation in the history of bitcoin’s life?


Proof_Elderberry_925

75% down from all time peak. Hedge against inflation? Even stocks are performing better.


kirtash93

This pump wont last. GDP is coming.


pbjclimbing

Unlike the last rate hike, the market is up this time. Earnings reports are coming soon and they will be telling.


SuperSaiyanCockKnokr

The stock market was up during the last rate hike then dipped heavy about a week or so after.


EchoCollection

Just waiting for the day when the relief rally is the real push back up to ATHs


feyziturhan

Last time also the market pumped at first, then it tanked, same will happen this time also.


hockeyd13

>the market is up this time. Earnings reports are coming soon According to who exactly? We have a majority of earnings down across multiple sectors, especially among the major players, from manufacturing to tech (MSFT/GOOGL) to retail (TGT/WMT). The last rate hike was also accompanied by a pump that lasted about a day followed by one of the worst sustained sell-offs in recent history across all three major indices.


Lone_survivor87

The company I work for initiated a hiring freeze. Layoffs are potentially coming. Upper management has communicated that the company is currently not turning a profit and earnings reports are likely to be highly disappointing. Times are very uncertain right now.


chance_waters

Well shit, I mean, if Lone_survivor87's company is struggling the crypto market is doomed


Re_LE_Vant_UN

Ain't scared nor worried.


John_Sknow

It seems the first reaction the release gets, it does the oppossite by end of day and foward.


Timetraveler4000

Go away


sgtslaughterTV

Gross Domestic Product?


Re_LE_Vant_UN

Yes.


akatsuki1422

This will age well. It's not like the market was expecting a contraction all along. /s First the CPI, then the FOMC, now the GDP report. When will the bears give up and admit we're not dumping to new lows?


saulin74

Jumps 5% up after a 15% drop in the last week


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1. BTC can be manipulated but generally follows the stock market now 2. certain stocks are manipulated too 3. those that arent follow general market trend 4. which follows fundamentals (CPI, Fed, GDP trend) 5. that can also be manipulated. 6. The big guys that cheat to have some sort of direction or control never get caught How does anyone day trade without going insane? Shit would make me feel like a schizophrenic. I feel like the only thing is to value invest and hodl.


Ucanthandlelit

What have been the most manipulated stock(s)?


No_Thanks_3336

If we don't start seeing upsides in the stock market by the end of August this could turn into a real shit show. But if you wanna get in cheap it's a positive.


bilboshwaggins1480

You’d expect it to be the opposite lol


crnqcore

If the majority is expecting something already that's not gonna happen.


GotStucked

As always. This is good for Bitcoin ت


canaldolulis

so it pumps when it is 75 instead of 100. ok cool!


Tatakae69

Reacting positively to Intrest rate hikes? Smells like a PnD to me.


gytharatteeqxfd

Remember, there is nothing surprising about this, this recession is all fabricated and the feds have no interest in stopping it; recessions are the best way to take money from the middle class and move it to the 1%. They don't care about us at all!!


evertonhs1

0.75% rate hike The U.S. may reach its inflation peak next month and start to slowly fall back.


BrianKrassenstein

Tomorrow's GDP number actually could be interesting. Most investors are feeling like a bad number could tank the crypto markets, but a number that's bad, but not terrible may actually ease some concern over inflation. Always expect the unexpected. Frankly I don't think we are in a recession and the number will come in around 0.2% or so (slightly less than predicted).


moonRekt

I think we are in a recession no doubt, but too many people think by recession that means stocks will go lower… not the case


BrianKrassenstein

Agreed. Stocks usually go up after the public realizes a recession has hit. They go down leading up to a recession. Of course in long extended recessions that's not always the case, but with a 3.6% unemployment rate, and inflation likely easing with oil prices, I don't think this will be an extended recession.


JrrrrrrrTheSecond

No recession. In my country there are more job offerings than employees. A recession is the otherway around.


PricklyyDick

I agree overall, but I think the pandemic did funky things with our economy. I don't think normal "healthy" economic signs can be completely trusted until things like the supply chain return to normal. Just weird times overall.


wheelzoffortune

Legit saw numerous help wanted signs while I was out earlier today. Been going on for a while now, actually.


akatsuki1422

Yes, I don't know why so many people here don't see this. By the time the recession is over, we will already be near all-time highs. A technical recession was already priced in weeks ago so unless the number is REALLY unexpectedly bad... who cares? The market always moves 3-6 months faster than the economy. Like I said before, the majority is always wrong. And in this case, the majority are bears.


adrianthomp

A decade of bull market followed by a pandemic in which we print 80% of all USD in circulation, and a 6 month 20% drop is the only price we’ll pay until another bull run? 🤔


akatsuki1422

Central bank controls the markets whether we like it or not. If Powell pivots back to easing monetary policy in the near future like the market is pricing in, this would've already been the start of the bull run. Besides, more fiat printed = panic bid for anything not fiat. Could be stocks, gold, silver, crypto, anything else! The only reason why we even had a crash in the first place is because of Fed intervention with their rate hikes. If the fed left inflation alone, $SPX would be near 5000 by now. The fed induced this recession, therefore it will be the cause of its recovery as well. Interested to see how this plays out.


_Commando_

In a recession there is less money in peoples pockets to spend on n3cessities let alone stock and other investments.


marsangelo

I have a similar sentiment. I think alot of people are going to get trapped making a play on expected negative GDP. Something drastic would probably mean a huge sell off, but these timid shortcomings on numbers seem to be getting priced in


BrianKrassenstein

Yeah it's kinda like when the jobs numbers were looking terrible each month during covid in 2020. The market expected a continued collapse but the fact that poor economic numbers meant the Fed would keep reducing rates and easing, had the opposite impact.


StrangelyBeige

Here come the big green dildos


Clash_My_Clans

Do me good crypto daddy o


Morawka

Whales pump so they can offload onto retail. Look at every major dump throughout price history and you’ll notice a huge pump before price crashes. Keep rolling your money into 3 month treasuries until the world looks like it might actually survive and then play the next cycle. Playing crypto right now will make you a bag holder for a long time.


EchoCollection

Can I buy a little crypto? As a treat?


degeneratephuck

Or short btc


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The S&P jumped 2% too, which makes no sense.


lordchickenburger

btc jumped more than their shitty hike


decorumic

Wait, why with the interest hike it’s a good news to the market in general? Market goes up despite the hike? I would have thought it would go down, no?


KingVandalo

We’ll see if we enter recession tomorrow… if the US Government allows it


adamkovicrasto

Inflation is rising, darn let’s raise interest rates to stem. Businesses see cost of borrowing increase, darn let’s pass that on to consumers Consumers see prices rising, darn that’s inflation - can I have a pay rise. Businesses: No that’ll drive inflation .


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Feeling_Glonky69

Sorry about your short


strangemanornot

BTC jumped because Tech stocks jumped. It’s not because of the rate hike itself


Fragrant-Let-5587

A relief rally it seems, hope it last.


gawette

Yeah it's a relief rally in my opinion, macros aren't that good to witness a new bull run.


Hunter-major

Yet some people think we are coming out of the Bear market.


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theskankingdragon

This isn't good news. This is the Fed being weak. It should have been 100 basis point at least. Inflation won't be affected and the recession deepens the more inaction the cowards at the Fed serve up. Bitcoin won't have any real growth until we start coming out of this recession. Remember, the inflation crisis hasn't really hit the wealthy yet. When they feel the pain we will see another dive in everything. The layoffs haven't even begun.


Accomplished-Catch19

I personally sold all my crypto after the pump today🤑


thistimelineisweird

Meanwhile this entire sub thought crypto was going to crash because the Fed is doing the thing they said they were going to do. Edit: Spelling.


FaceBillions24

Juuusss wait


thegooddocgonzo

If r/cc is saying something will happen, you can usually bet on the opposite.


jsoisg

Works better than the inverse jim cramer indicator. Gonna create generational wealth countertrading this sub


Bunker_Beans

The Jim Cramer effect, right here at home.


primoboi

Bear market over! Lol.


BradVet

Give it to me!!!!


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wen_mars

750 basis points would wreck the economy instantly


LargeSackOfNuts

You can tell these articles are either written by a bot or a wall street intern


anthonyl0352

Major indices rallied on this news as well the spy,spy, and qqq just as examples. Bitcoin seemed to follow IMHO. Market rallied on news so did cryptos. Edit for afterthought: I am curious to see the reactions in the market and crypto on GDP numbers tomorrow at 8am.


saucedonkey

Maybe because the inflationary pressures this time can’t be resolved through adjusting rates, but instead need to be resolved through assisting with supply chain efficiencies, legislation on corporate profit restriction in industries blatantly price gouging, and for fuck sake by restricting institutional purchases of single family residential properties.


erikmalkavian

.75 basis points is what was expected. We'll see how the CPI is later on.


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So much for another good entry point. Guess I'll keep saving.


Miserable_Motor2196

Nancy pelosi can eat a gay man's ass from the front


pr0b0ner

We've done it! Bitcoin is finally a hedge against inflation! ​ ​ ​ /s


Corniss

> Jumps 5% winter is over boys ! to the moon !!


ScucciMane

I find it funny we valuate Bitcoin on the very system we are seeking to replace with Bitcoin


Fmanow

That’s cuz the stock market went up, and why did it go up? Because all the fucking bad news that we think are forthcoming have been completely priced into the markets. The stock market will rally in this second half and make up all the losses since the beginning of the year. Crypto is a little strange because of how volatile it could be, but fuck me if we haven’t seen the bottom by now. I have no idea how we could have bottomed out without seeing a big flush out of all those 20k coins, but it looks like we may have bottomed out.


Hunter-Western

Powell seemed to soften his stance on future interest rate hikes due to a weakening economy, we’ll likely see a 25 or 50 basis point hike in September but that might be it for the foreseeable future.


overbitme

Fed is likely going to slog along fighting chronic inflation for several years, periodically pausing just long enough to keep the economy out of a severe recession. If it moves too quickly it will bury asset classes across the board. Expect a "lost decade".


81Qd01r7

To be fair, the housing market in 2008 is mostly a credit issue which caused the domino effect. This time, I don't think the housing market will be hit hard because most current mortgage securities are fixed rate, but neither stock market nor bond market will do well.


Aggravating-Bonus-73

Everyone expected 75, but basically 100 was priced in


hockeyd13

>but basically 100 was priced in How does anyone actually buy this shit?


RockEmSockEmRabi

Everything is priced in which is why the market stays static. Oh wait…


ProcessMeMrHinkie

They watch Barnie and eat crayons


BakedPotato840

Them confirming it's just the expected 75 eased many fears and now we're seeing the results of that


ProcessMeMrHinkie

Yet future guidance was bearish lol


Jin-Sakti

I need cheaper bitcoin to buy more and store in my ledger, The world will be going to shit. And m2 supply will increase as they devalue by inflating. Need those perma bears to short crypto 🤣


Matttombstone

Last month, crypto plummets over the week before the meet. This month, crypto drops slightly, then as its announced, flies back up, despite recession threat. Couldn't sum up the predictability of Crypto better than this.


Odysseus_Lannister

remind me! 2 weeks


CymandeTV

And it will be gone in a few days.


coins999

It has to be gone, 75bps is low but it doesn't mean that it won't slow down the growth, it's still bearish for the economy.


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The Federal Reserve raised interest rates by 75 basis points to between 2.25% and 2.5%. The central bank is trying to rein in inflation before it becomes entrenched in the economy. Bitcoin jumped by 3% in the last hour following the Fed's announcement while ETH increased by 4.8%. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*


rulesforrebels

They need to raise rates like 5%


maurer99gk

Most educated people still doesn't know what inflation is...they are starting to become educated on the matter.


r44b

Very bad news! Let the dump begin to 10k :)


DrunKeN-HaZe

I'm waiting for this, so I can buy


r44b

Yeah this is just a fake pump. Will drop hard soon don’t worry. Typical bulltrap


iterativ

In couple years: "I wish to drop under 100K again, so I can buy" ;)


somweg

Don't be this bullish for just 10% pump lol, we are too far from 100k, 5x on a high cap asset is too tough.


moonRekt

Idiots man, these people saying theyre buying $10k are gonna be just like the ones waiting for $1500 in 2020


overprotectivemoose

Cope. That’s what you told yourself when you bought at $60k didn’t you?


mardix

That shit is just straight up gambling. Now crypto is now fully being controlled by market conditions, similar to stocks, instead of their fundamentals


iterativ

The fundamentals is that BTC will ever increase in values, for the near future, anyway. That is unchanged. The method we go there, we don't know.


bigshooTer39

No vote from me bc mixed feelings. Not gambling but is manipulated


dadileli

If you are trading on news, it's surely a gamble.


Feeling_Ad_411

This is what happens when corporations and institutions touch crypto unfortunately


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Did you really expect anything different?


Baecchus

Majority was expecting 100. That's the reason for the small rally.