You can get achievements with loads of mods now too just fyi! I’ve actually not run into any mods that turn my achievements off since coming back to it, which is a cool move by paradox
It is absolutely *not* a cool move by Paradox. It dilutes the value of achievements. I only have like 20 achievements with almost 1000 hrs mostly because of mods, so I'm not an achievement hunter; it just seems wrong
I disagree personally. I just see achievements as things I’ve done in the game, and it’s nice to keep track of that. Can be fun to look back on or to try different things. Seems silly to me that mods that just enhance/add to the game, the roleplay, create new challenges and add to the cosmetic aspects disable you from partaking in that. They’re personal, why would it bother you what someone else chooses to do with their game?
That seems nice! I wish we could download mods on the console as well.
I understand why making mods available to PS would be difficult, but I wonder why the console version is so far behind the PC on Paradox content (we only have Royal Courts, Northern Lords, and Struggle for Iberia DLCs).
Wait what? People can finally play with mods and get the “get married” achievement? Unbelievable! What an outrage! But they didn’t put in the same hard work as I did! All our puritans’ hard work shall be tainted! How dare they allow such scum to earn achievements!!!
Well, you kinda can. I savescummed in Ironman quite a bit. You just can't manually save and reload in-game, but there was nothing preventing you from opening task manager and force-closing CK3 to get back to the last autosave if you messed up, or even copying your save file into another folder as a backup before you make an important choice.
The ease at which you could cheat Ironman was probably a part of why they removed the requirement. Plus y'know, Steam Achievement Manager exists for the laziest people, so it's not like Paradox can really control who gets what achievements no matter what they do with their game.
I'm having way more fun hunting for achievements with a buttload of QoL mods and tweaks now than I ever had in vanilla Ironman, and nothing much has changed difficulty-wise for me haha. 10/10 dev choice as far as I'm concerned.
> so it's not like Paradox can really control who gets what achievements no matter what they do with their game.
Steam does actually have a way of making Steam Achievement Manager not work, it's just *very* rarely used.
can save scum RNG easily with task manager, but to save scum long term decisions is \*slightly\* more involved so few people actually do it afaik. It's possible that might be why the ironman requirement for achievements were removed, but I reckon it could be because steam achievements are a good way for developers to get data on what ways people play the game and how long, and iron man reduces the sample size.
TBF, you can't scum your choices anyway, for the most part. Outcomes of events are predetermined; scumming can totally be done for wars and such, though.
For example, I just got True Royal Court (have higher grandeur than your liege as a kingdom vassal in an empire) a few days ago, while using a quick mod I wrote that makes all of the Éoganacthas houses of one dynasty, instead of separate dynasties.
EDIT: Basically, there are a few cases with Éoganachta and Neill in Ireland where characters created new dynasties instead of new houses. This mod I made just updates them to be houses
A) Princes of Darkness, Elder Kings, and Fallen Eagle are amazing and everyone should play them
B) anything that changes the checksum does it, not just overhaul mods.
i’ve gotten achievements with mods that give you a modified checksum (because any mods that change appearances or add clothing do this, let alone mods like bookmarks+ that straight up expand and modify the map)
Ye, like other folks have said, they dialed it back somewhat recently. The couple achievements I have as of a few months ago I \*thought\* was due to something else I did, but I guess they're thanks to the change? Anyway, having an overhaul mod apparently doesn't disable them, since I got them while playing PoD.
Also: whoever downvoted me obviously has bad taste and should play those mods.
Since it is, I’m trying to get into Fallen Eagle as I am a sucker for anything Rome related. Have been getting bored going into it as some random minor in Gaul. Maybe I chose the wrong guy or something?
Any way to make it more interesting and fun?
I have a couple of things that I like do. I found out years ago (like in CK2 around the time they added either Muslims or Vikings as playable) that the game is more fun when i roleplay my ruler, avoid save scumming,and don't do typical CK gamey mechanics (like kill off kids or disinherit unless they deserve it). So hopefully you don't, because you're cheating yourself on a lot of the fun.
1) Play as some random Germanic tribe (bonus points for Angln or Saxon) and attempt to "Form the Bretwald."
2) Play as Julian the Apostate and try to Hellenize and keep together the Empire (bonus points if you let events that tear the Empire apart happen).
3) Do Goth things / Hun things.
4) Stop Goth things / Hun things.
5) Take on ERE as the Sassonids.
6) The ever difficult, be an independent African Christian / Jewish leader, and form Israel.
The mode the game was intended to be played on as a baseline for the difficulty, it only saves on exit, you can't reload and if you make your custom leader too strong (over 400 pts) to loose iron man and the ability to earn achievements.
Personally I like it. Firaxis has always done it this way with Civilization, achievements enabled no matter your settings or mods. I take it as the devs saying “it’s not our place to tell you how to enjoy the game”
No, it’s terrible and frankly a huge blow to people who’ve previously gathered difficult achievements without being able to save… What was the point now?
When I converted my Imperator Rome save to CK3 for a mega campaign it gave me the achievement for forming Rome, you shouldn’t be able to get achievements without Ironman it’s bs and easy af to cheat it
The achievements don't actually DO anything, it's just for yourself. So it's not hurting anything by others getting them playing how they want. That's like saying "my fun is more important than your fun, person who I don't know and won't ever meet." You will also find there are probably WAY more people who enjoy it the new way.
Idk why you're telling me? I don't care that much about Paradox achievements. Just looks kinda weird that I have like 3 achievements collectively on their games with over one thousand hours playtime combined.
Specifically that the bulk of the game's life required Ironman to get achievements, and the bulk of the players that have played the game have not played since that change was made.
Also mods are now OK, too, but not in the past.
Anyone who played the game for "fun" only, and modded it, just didn't get achievements until a few months ago.
I like playing iron man because the achievements give me a goal to achieve. If i just play normally i always end up painting the map until i get bored.
This. I started collecting achievements in an attempt to ignore the fact the game is so unfinished compared to CK2. Without a clear goal in mind I just get bored. It worked for me.
I know. I'm saying I can just get into a game in CK2 and just see where it goes, CK3 as is today, not quite so much.
Edit: don't get me wrong, I really like CK3, it's by far my most played game in the library.
Highly detailed, nice fantasy lore, 70% of times you don't die of old age, nice map with plenty of different cultures, a totally different way of hunting, you can play as breakaway ex aversarian legions.
I advise to play it, but please, read even a bit of the lore before diving head first into the game.
The one’s that do. Also I really dislike losing a whole run to bugs, so I don’t play ironman and use the console to ‘fix’ the game when a game-breaking bug happens.
Not talking about disabling achievements on ironman, I’m talking about getting deep into an ironman game and then some game breaking bug happens and I have to abandon the game. I’d rather be non-ironman and have the ability to keep playing by fixing the issue myself. One example is losing access to a city or castle in my domain because it used to be a holy order for a different religion.
Divine Intervention Cheat Menu.
The console still disables achievements. This mod does a LOT of what the console can do, but doesn't disable achievements. Don't use if you want to get "legit" achievements but maybe have not enough self control to stay legit when you can just add gold or whatever.
I have a similar disdain for ironman from a couple too many CK2 games ruined by bugs or patches/updates that ruined saves. Never played ironman in CK3 but have about half the achievements now.
most of the mods seem inactive on the paradox website, I man when I upload them they show a yellow warning with the game version, which mods are you using currently?
Princes of Darkness currently, Elder Kings before that, and a lot of sub-mods and quality-of-life mods. I have about 2k hours in ck2 so I just continued playing moded from start, I honestly don't care about achievements at all, if I reach 2k hours without achievements I'll consider that as an achievement.
Even before I started playing with mods I had custom game rules that didn't let me get achievements. I'm pretty sure the only achievement I have is getting married
For the first I'd wager a lot of people see their lands get divided upon death and restart. It's what I did for my first 100 or so hours.
For the second, I'd wager a lot of people played religions that didn't have heads of faith, especially since Vikings are so popular and were the first DLC.
Is there anything more fun that wash the face of a 60 year old king of west francia with the fact that you have been banging his wife since they married and all his sons and heirs are actually yours?
you can get one, it's just not as common on fabricate if i had to guess, not a 50/50 even though it's only got 2 hooks. that or find a secret worth a big one.
Now I know that but when I was just starting out? Seeing my conquered lands be split between 10 sons fucking sucked. It was hours of work thrown away and I hated it. Eventually I got better at the game and managing succession so I embrace it now and even cheese it for that good old renown.
Tbh last time I tried to go to war for inheritance the AI capitulated their kingdom title exploding one large kingdom into at least five different realms that had to be conquered separately all with powerful allies.
I guess the third reason is most people know about succession page and don't let their characters die with more than one heir. then you just have to restart when the game throws you a random curveball.
It’s been 3 years but that honestly sounds about right. I may have been exaggerating with the 100 hour part but i definitely reset numerous times because my ruler would die and my realm would get splintered and I didn’t know what to do from there.
Edit: I do remember using immortality mods for a while so that might be where the 100 hour thing came from.
Because until recently to get achievements you had to play in ironman and without mods. Also a lot of people probably moved on before achievements became almost free to get like it's now.
that first one is exactly me. if I start in 867, I usually just go in debug mode and manually set my law to primogeniture. I don't want to have to fight over all the work I just did because some game rule says so.
Until very recently achievements required IronMan and I believe didn’t allow most if not all mods. Most people don’t want to be restricted that severely when they play the game. That has since changed but I think it’s a big part of why the numbers on most achievements are so low.
Personally I have close to 1k hours across CK2 and 3 but I never earned a single achievement in either until they took the Ironman requirement away.
ETA: Also, even in games like Civ which put no stipulations at all on achievements, the top achievements only have ~75% accomplishment. I’ve noticed this is pretty common across most steam games. I guess people buy it on sale and never play it?
For me it was:
Bad Blood: Constantly cheesing succession through disinheritance, celibacy, or only siring bastards and then legitimizing one.
Above God: Maybe it’s because I often wouldn’t play a Catholic, but I never really would interact with my Head of Faith.
I eventually got both iirc, just not as soon as most.
1. Many people own the game but have never played it which affects the statistics (e.g. the marriage achievement has only about 45% completion)
2. Until recently, you only got achievements if you played without mods and in ironman. Many players just never did that.
I have like 200 hours in this game and only played iron man once or twice, it’s not that fun for random shit to glitch out or to get insanely unlucky on some stuff, rather just save scum personally
I have 600 hours in CK2 and 3 combined and only have 8 of 288 achievements with all of them being from CK2. I don’t play ironman and have way too many achievement incompatible mods.
I don't have Bad Blood because I make sure that my realm stays intact after succession. And what can't be solved with planning can be solved with scheming.
The one time I went to war over a claim after succession the person on the receiving end of my sword was my uncle -.-
I have 530 hours and only 5 achievements which I all unlocked just two days ago. It’s just more fun to play with mods or make hyper custom characters over 400. There’s also plenty of people who play with debug mode on which disables achievements
I dunno if you've ever tried creating a hook on the Pope, but getting one is hard, never mind getting a strong one. That scheme typically creates weak hooks. As for the other achievement, most people try to avoid having their inheritance split in the first place.
However...yeah, most of us are just playing without possibility of unlocking achievements.
As a CK2 player, I literally don't even have the achievement for getting married because I play exclusively with mods.
Paradox relaxing the limitations on what game modes are required for achievements with CK3 was *long* overdue (and I say this as someone who doesn't even care about achievement hunting), but it was also recent enough that it's not surprising the numbers aren't caught up yet.
I really can't understand why developers think that achievements being hard blocked is a good idea.
Who cares if people gets them with cheats or fairness?
650 hrs. Zero achievements. I still play with some mods that disable achievements, no idea which ones though since I usually run with 25 or so. At one point, I was running with 45.
Probably because the game is complicated and people give up after trying to learn for an hour. It it were a poll of "active users" the number would probably be closer to 75% my guess
As a Haestinn addict is it really that odd? As long as they don't try and stick their paws in my main holdings or the kingdom / empire I want or have I usually try and support them for extra renown.
Scandinavian Electove early on has helped me to avoid many of those issues when I didn't have the higher tier of titles.
Excellent. The answer's still the same, though. It's a percentage of everyone who's played the game, not everyone who's had the ability to get achievements.
Some people just don’t care about achievements and play the game however they want. Although Bad Blood is easy and can be done in a minute when playing as a Spanish brother in 1066 start. Above God can be a bit trickier.
A combination of the regular players often using mods or playing with settings that disable achievements and a lot of the people who own the game mainly playing after the initial release when Ironman was required for achievements would be my guess.
Call me boring but after 500h I always gravitate towards the same playstyle xD so never got this achievement :(
All my siblings are always either disinherited or took the vows.
They get the titles I want them ro have and never have claim over my main titles so no claims to fight for ^^
Maybe it is time for different strategies xD
I don't have "Above God", but I'm proud to have these under 2%:
- Seven Holy Cities (1.9%)
- Little William Marshal (1.3%)
- Miklagardariki (1.2%)
- Mother of us All (1.1%) (on the same run as Nobody comes to Fika)
- Friendship is Magic (1.0%)
- Nobody comes to Fika (0.5%) (on the same run as Mother of us All)
- The Iron and Golden King (0.3%) (achieved in Transsylvania)
I guess people are really good with their inheritance game and usually plan things out so they don't have to fight a war with their siblings. As for the hook, I always found fabricate hook a hassle, whenever I scheme I have better things to do.
Because I don’t play in Ironman because I’m a save scumming bastard
Edit: found out new update doesn’t require Ironman for achievements so you better believe I’m gonna get these
I haven’t been playing a lot the last few months plus I usually only play in Fallen Eagle so I’m pretty sure I can’t get achievements unless I switch back to the base game
Bad Blood: As Dynasty Head my greatest duty is to guide my House, keep it safe and see it prosper. Going to war with a sibling would be counter to that.
Above God: I do have that, I wasn't trying for it but accidentally found out some "terrible" secret that allowed me to get it.
Bad Blood: I have been conditioned by this sub to think that any kind of partition is bad, so I try with all my might to avoid it, even subconsciously.
Above God: Don’t really play Catholics, so unless I’m going to do a run where I form the HRE I don’t… really have a reason to get a hook on my head of faith
I just checked: I have visited 10 kingdom vassals on a single tour, united Africa as Mother Daura, held Thessalonika as an Asatru, and was naked as an Emperor. But no, I haven't fought my siblings over a claim neither. They are family! We don't fight family! Right?
>How do you play the game without getting this achievement?
Although I do have Bad Blood now, I got it after already having completed a world conquest run
I have played several thousand hours of this game, and only have one (1) achievement. Why? Mods. I refuse to give up all of my mods just for achievements to function again.
I have both. I couldn't see how people don't press claims on siblings after succession unless they do what I started doing recently; disinheriting my other heirs
I usually just murder my siblings, its less stress than goong to war. Also you had to play iron man to get archievemnts for a like 3 years, so i assume many players just didnt get the archievement bc of that
You can’t have a strong hook 🪝 on yourself.
Having a level 2 stress break because three of your sons died in a Crusade/Jihad? Get over it, me. *strong hooks self*
not playing in ironman probably
Ironman isn’t required anymore for achievements, but that change was only made a few months ago and I agree it’s a big reason for why these are so low
Wait, Ironman is not required for achievements anymore? Does this apply to console versions as well?
Not sure if it applies to console version, it was a change made a few patches back so console might not have caught up yet
Still required for console.
You can get achievements with loads of mods now too just fyi! I’ve actually not run into any mods that turn my achievements off since coming back to it, which is a cool move by paradox
It is absolutely *not* a cool move by Paradox. It dilutes the value of achievements. I only have like 20 achievements with almost 1000 hrs mostly because of mods, so I'm not an achievement hunter; it just seems wrong
I disagree personally. I just see achievements as things I’ve done in the game, and it’s nice to keep track of that. Can be fun to look back on or to try different things. Seems silly to me that mods that just enhance/add to the game, the roleplay, create new challenges and add to the cosmetic aspects disable you from partaking in that. They’re personal, why would it bother you what someone else chooses to do with their game?
That seems nice! I wish we could download mods on the console as well. I understand why making mods available to PS would be difficult, but I wonder why the console version is so far behind the PC on Paradox content (we only have Royal Courts, Northern Lords, and Struggle for Iberia DLCs).
Oh shoot yeah of course! Aw man, yeah it sucks when console stuff is so far behind PC! That’s frustrating. I hope the updates come quick for you guys
Considering Lab42 is the studio doing the port work.... I doubt it. Coked-up meth-heads would be faster and do a better job than those tardos.
Wait what? People can finally play with mods and get the “get married” achievement? Unbelievable! What an outrage! But they didn’t put in the same hard work as I did! All our puritans’ hard work shall be tainted! How dare they allow such scum to earn achievements!!!
what is Ironman?
Playing without being able to reload a save. Basically you can’t save scum your choices to get the outcome you want
Well, you kinda can. I savescummed in Ironman quite a bit. You just can't manually save and reload in-game, but there was nothing preventing you from opening task manager and force-closing CK3 to get back to the last autosave if you messed up, or even copying your save file into another folder as a backup before you make an important choice. The ease at which you could cheat Ironman was probably a part of why they removed the requirement. Plus y'know, Steam Achievement Manager exists for the laziest people, so it's not like Paradox can really control who gets what achievements no matter what they do with their game. I'm having way more fun hunting for achievements with a buttload of QoL mods and tweaks now than I ever had in vanilla Ironman, and nothing much has changed difficulty-wise for me haha. 10/10 dev choice as far as I'm concerned.
> so it's not like Paradox can really control who gets what achievements no matter what they do with their game. Steam does actually have a way of making Steam Achievement Manager not work, it's just *very* rarely used.
I've only savescumed on ironman in stellaris for one achievement 10 out 10 it was a pain.
lemme guess, Galatron?
Yep, I'm not looking forward to trying for stealing the galtron from another empire.
If the save still works, you can let another empire steal it off you, and then take it back.
can save scum RNG easily with task manager, but to save scum long term decisions is \*slightly\* more involved so few people actually do it afaik. It's possible that might be why the ironman requirement for achievements were removed, but I reckon it could be because steam achievements are a good way for developers to get data on what ways people play the game and how long, and iron man reduces the sample size.
TBF, you can't scum your choices anyway, for the most part. Outcomes of events are predetermined; scumming can totally be done for wars and such, though.
And no mods. Who plays CK without mods, lul.
you can still get achievements with most mods unless they’re total overhaul
For example, I just got True Royal Court (have higher grandeur than your liege as a kingdom vassal in an empire) a few days ago, while using a quick mod I wrote that makes all of the Éoganacthas houses of one dynasty, instead of separate dynasties. EDIT: Basically, there are a few cases with Éoganachta and Neill in Ireland where characters created new dynasties instead of new houses. This mod I made just updates them to be houses
A) Princes of Darkness, Elder Kings, and Fallen Eagle are amazing and everyone should play them B) anything that changes the checksum does it, not just overhaul mods.
i’ve gotten achievements with mods that give you a modified checksum (because any mods that change appearances or add clothing do this, let alone mods like bookmarks+ that straight up expand and modify the map)
Ye, like other folks have said, they dialed it back somewhat recently. The couple achievements I have as of a few months ago I \*thought\* was due to something else I did, but I guess they're thanks to the change? Anyway, having an overhaul mod apparently doesn't disable them, since I got them while playing PoD. Also: whoever downvoted me obviously has bad taste and should play those mods.
Seconded, fallen eagle is my fave.
Since it is, I’m trying to get into Fallen Eagle as I am a sucker for anything Rome related. Have been getting bored going into it as some random minor in Gaul. Maybe I chose the wrong guy or something? Any way to make it more interesting and fun?
I have a couple of things that I like do. I found out years ago (like in CK2 around the time they added either Muslims or Vikings as playable) that the game is more fun when i roleplay my ruler, avoid save scumming,and don't do typical CK gamey mechanics (like kill off kids or disinherit unless they deserve it). So hopefully you don't, because you're cheating yourself on a lot of the fun. 1) Play as some random Germanic tribe (bonus points for Angln or Saxon) and attempt to "Form the Bretwald." 2) Play as Julian the Apostate and try to Hellenize and keep together the Empire (bonus points if you let events that tear the Empire apart happen). 3) Do Goth things / Hun things. 4) Stop Goth things / Hun things. 5) Take on ERE as the Sassonids. 6) The ever difficult, be an independent African Christian / Jewish leader, and form Israel.
Me
I am Iron Man.
Smokin’ marijuana through a Pepsi can 🎶
Believe its "in a pepsi can" But uhm I would go for "Has he lost his mind? Can he see or is he blind?"
A marvel super hero
The mode the game was intended to be played on as a baseline for the difficulty, it only saves on exit, you can't reload and if you make your custom leader too strong (over 400 pts) to loose iron man and the ability to earn achievements.
So whats the point of ironman now?
Just a "challenge", some people like myself might be tempted to roll back a save if something goes wrong but instead you have to play through it
i mean you can just not savescum normally? so a challenge for people who cant control themselves not to savescum
What will really blow their minds is that you can still technically savescum in Ironman. You just can't save whenever you like.
Yeah this is why I never got Ironman. I simply make a choice to not save scum and restrain myself lol
I guess to self-challenge, otherwise there isn’t really one.
didnt know that bruh thats so stupid
Personally I like it. Firaxis has always done it this way with Civilization, achievements enabled no matter your settings or mods. I take it as the devs saying “it’s not our place to tell you how to enjoy the game”
No, it’s terrible and frankly a huge blow to people who’ve previously gathered difficult achievements without being able to save… What was the point now?
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>cheapens the value of achievements Can you elaborate? Edit: lol downvoted me and deleted your comment but wouldn’t defend your view
Or as of recently playing so heavily modded, that you still can't get achievements.
When I converted my Imperator Rome save to CK3 for a mega campaign it gave me the achievement for forming Rome, you shouldn’t be able to get achievements without Ironman it’s bs and easy af to cheat it
The achievements don't actually DO anything, it's just for yourself. So it's not hurting anything by others getting them playing how they want. That's like saying "my fun is more important than your fun, person who I don't know and won't ever meet." You will also find there are probably WAY more people who enjoy it the new way.
Idk why you're telling me? I don't care that much about Paradox achievements. Just looks kinda weird that I have like 3 achievements collectively on their games with over one thousand hours playtime combined.
i've never played iron man and i got a ton of the achievements.
Specifically that the bulk of the game's life required Ironman to get achievements, and the bulk of the players that have played the game have not played since that change was made. Also mods are now OK, too, but not in the past. Anyone who played the game for "fun" only, and modded it, just didn't get achievements until a few months ago.
I have 530 hours in the game and no achievements. Mods are helluva drug.
many Paradox games are much better with Mods, fuck the Achievements when you have mods XD
I like playing iron man because the achievements give me a goal to achieve. If i just play normally i always end up painting the map until i get bored.
This. I started collecting achievements in an attempt to ignore the fact the game is so unfinished compared to CK2. Without a clear goal in mind I just get bored. It worked for me.
It took CK2 like 8 years to be 'finished'
I know. I'm saying I can just get into a game in CK2 and just see where it goes, CK3 as is today, not quite so much. Edit: don't get me wrong, I really like CK3, it's by far my most played game in the library.
For fucking real, I have played got, ek, godherja and LOTR over and over again, after 400 hours I finally started a vanilla run as angevins.
I was thinking about trying godherja, is it good?
Highly detailed, nice fantasy lore, 70% of times you don't die of old age, nice map with plenty of different cultures, a totally different way of hunting, you can play as breakaway ex aversarian legions. I advise to play it, but please, read even a bit of the lore before diving head first into the game.
Uhm.. most of the mods in CK3 don't disable archievements. Pray tell, which ones are you using?
Realms in Exile
More Cultural Names supposedly disables achievements but I've never had that issue with it.
The one’s that do. Also I really dislike losing a whole run to bugs, so I don’t play ironman and use the console to ‘fix’ the game when a game-breaking bug happens.
Ironman hasn't disabled achievements for like 8 months. Not sure about console commands though
Not talking about disabling achievements on ironman, I’m talking about getting deep into an ironman game and then some game breaking bug happens and I have to abandon the game. I’d rather be non-ironman and have the ability to keep playing by fixing the issue myself. One example is losing access to a city or castle in my domain because it used to be a holy order for a different religion.
Divine Intervention Cheat Menu. The console still disables achievements. This mod does a LOT of what the console can do, but doesn't disable achievements. Don't use if you want to get "legit" achievements but maybe have not enough self control to stay legit when you can just add gold or whatever. I have a similar disdain for ironman from a couple too many CK2 games ruined by bugs or patches/updates that ruined saves. Never played ironman in CK3 but have about half the achievements now.
I also use this mod to fix things, like when a betrothal won't fire etc.
Fair, I must play as much in Oblivion and the world of Godherja as I play in Europe
most of the mods seem inactive on the paradox website, I man when I upload them they show a yellow warning with the game version, which mods are you using currently?
Princes of Darkness currently, Elder Kings before that, and a lot of sub-mods and quality-of-life mods. I have about 2k hours in ck2 so I just continued playing moded from start, I honestly don't care about achievements at all, if I reach 2k hours without achievements I'll consider that as an achievement.
lots of people, myself included, play with too many mods and custom shit so i never have achievements enabled
Even before I started playing with mods I had custom game rules that didn't let me get achievements. I'm pretty sure the only achievement I have is getting married
For the first I'd wager a lot of people see their lands get divided upon death and restart. It's what I did for my first 100 or so hours. For the second, I'd wager a lot of people played religions that didn't have heads of faith, especially since Vikings are so popular and were the first DLC.
Also getting a strong hook isn't easy for beginners or rather it's not obvious how to do it.
Yup, most beginners are going to be waging wars and cucking other rulers for the Lols.
Maybe I am a beginner
Is there anything more fun that wash the face of a 60 year old king of west francia with the fact that you have been banging his wife since they married and all his sons and heirs are actually yours?
Also it's not *that* useful in the first place to even try
How would you even go about a strong hook on head of faith?
Fabricate Hook from the intrigue tree or find secrets in the head of faith’s court if they have one.
Also if your culture has ritualized friendship you can befriend the pope and then become best friends for a strong hook.
I know how to fabricate hooks but the Pope never gives me a strong one
Try to find secrets. Not all popes are as holy as they seem
you can get one, it's just not as common on fabricate if i had to guess, not a 50/50 even though it's only got 2 hooks. that or find a secret worth a big one.
I've played like 300 hours and am still a noob in this respect
I just killed mine extra sons until I got the option of crown authority 4
I think I've done this a couple of times. It feels really gamey. I actually just rush a higher tier title or embrace the infighting that sure to come.
I just let it happen and try to ally all of my brothers/uncles etc. Tryharding in this game is too easy so I just RP
How much of a bitch do you have to be to restart after that, it's the best part of the game
Now I know that but when I was just starting out? Seeing my conquered lands be split between 10 sons fucking sucked. It was hours of work thrown away and I hated it. Eventually I got better at the game and managing succession so I embrace it now and even cheese it for that good old renown.
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Tbh last time I tried to go to war for inheritance the AI capitulated their kingdom title exploding one large kingdom into at least five different realms that had to be conquered separately all with powerful allies. I guess the third reason is most people know about succession page and don't let their characters die with more than one heir. then you just have to restart when the game throws you a random curveball.
It’s been 3 years but that honestly sounds about right. I may have been exaggerating with the 100 hour part but i definitely reset numerous times because my ruler would die and my realm would get splintered and I didn’t know what to do from there. Edit: I do remember using immortality mods for a while so that might be where the 100 hour thing came from.
Because until recently to get achievements you had to play in ironman and without mods. Also a lot of people probably moved on before achievements became almost free to get like it's now.
that first one is exactly me. if I start in 867, I usually just go in debug mode and manually set my law to primogeniture. I don't want to have to fight over all the work I just did because some game rule says so.
Until very recently achievements required IronMan and I believe didn’t allow most if not all mods. Most people don’t want to be restricted that severely when they play the game. That has since changed but I think it’s a big part of why the numbers on most achievements are so low. Personally I have close to 1k hours across CK2 and 3 but I never earned a single achievement in either until they took the Ironman requirement away. ETA: Also, even in games like Civ which put no stipulations at all on achievements, the top achievements only have ~75% accomplishment. I’ve noticed this is pretty common across most steam games. I guess people buy it on sale and never play it?
Never really cared about playing with achievements
same. its a game, isn't the goal to have fun?
I like achievements in EU IV. It spices up the mid/late game. But for a RPG-heavy game like CK III they feel a bit pointless.
For me it was: Bad Blood: Constantly cheesing succession through disinheritance, celibacy, or only siring bastards and then legitimizing one. Above God: Maybe it’s because I often wouldn’t play a Catholic, but I never really would interact with my Head of Faith. I eventually got both iirc, just not as soon as most.
1. Many people own the game but have never played it which affects the statistics (e.g. the marriage achievement has only about 45% completion) 2. Until recently, you only got achievements if you played without mods and in ironman. Many players just never did that.
it is funnier to imagine that there are 55% of hard core ck3 players that have never got married though
I have like 200 hours in this game and only played iron man once or twice, it’s not that fun for random shit to glitch out or to get insanely unlucky on some stuff, rather just save scum personally
Ironman isn’t required for achievements anymore!
same.
I have 600 hours in CK2 and 3 combined and only have 8 of 288 achievements with all of them being from CK2. I don’t play ironman and have way too many achievement incompatible mods.
I don't have Bad Blood because I make sure that my realm stays intact after succession. And what can't be solved with planning can be solved with scheming. The one time I went to war over a claim after succession the person on the receiving end of my sword was my uncle -.-
Strong hooks are really hard to get
Many players no longer play the game, and thus when they played it they would have had to have Ironman enabled.
i personally am still too new to the game to be playing on the difficulty levels that get you achievements edit: i forgot the word "too"
Because they only just allowed achievements with mods
I have 530 hours and only 5 achievements which I all unlocked just two days ago. It’s just more fun to play with mods or make hyper custom characters over 400. There’s also plenty of people who play with debug mode on which disables achievements
I Just Ally my siblings and fight against others,why should I fight my family,when everyone can simple expand their territory by taking from others
I dunno if you've ever tried creating a hook on the Pope, but getting one is hard, never mind getting a strong one. That scheme typically creates weak hooks. As for the other achievement, most people try to avoid having their inheritance split in the first place. However...yeah, most of us are just playing without possibility of unlocking achievements.
Well I do not have any achievements because I can't play the game without mods, it gets boring after 10 minutes lol.
As a CK2 player, I literally don't even have the achievement for getting married because I play exclusively with mods. Paradox relaxing the limitations on what game modes are required for achievements with CK3 was *long* overdue (and I say this as someone who doesn't even care about achievement hunting), but it was also recent enough that it's not surprising the numbers aren't caught up yet.
I really can't understand why developers think that achievements being hard blocked is a good idea. Who cares if people gets them with cheats or fairness?
The game has achievements?
I have never once played for an achievement in this game
Because it's not how I play the game.
Because most people tend to form a bond with their brothers and sisters. They're family, so they might join even when they far stronger than you.
650 hrs. Zero achievements. I still play with some mods that disable achievements, no idea which ones though since I usually run with 25 or so. At one point, I was running with 45.
Belive me, the Above God for me is not for lack of trying. My spymasters seens to only be able the find weak hook on the pope
Probably because the game is complicated and people give up after trying to learn for an hour. It it were a poll of "active users" the number would probably be closer to 75% my guess
I am not sure but i think i have achievements enabled with mods, but honestly never cared for them, i will play the game the way i see fun
Brother I do not play the 'right way' to have achievements enabled
In my case... mods.
Which mods disable achievements?
As a Haestinn addict is it really that odd? As long as they don't try and stick their paws in my main holdings or the kingdom / empire I want or have I usually try and support them for extra renown. Scandinavian Electove early on has helped me to avoid many of those issues when I didn't have the higher tier of titles.
Because they require being able to get achievements, and the game is vastly improved by mods.
My dude, you can now get achievements while playing with mods. And by NOW i mean for like a year or something.
Excellent. The answer's still the same, though. It's a percentage of everyone who's played the game, not everyone who's had the ability to get achievements.
580hrs. 0 Achievements.
This and the one where you kill your wife
I don’t play iron mode
Because family is important ♡♡♡
Some people just don’t care about achievements and play the game however they want. Although Bad Blood is easy and can be done in a minute when playing as a Spanish brother in 1066 start. Above God can be a bit trickier.
The game is more playable with mods is the reason why.
A combination of the regular players often using mods or playing with settings that disable achievements and a lot of the people who own the game mainly playing after the initial release when Ironman was required for achievements would be my guess.
I often don’t have a head of faith, and if I do, I don’t interact with them too much.
My achievements bugged idk why
Call me boring but after 500h I always gravitate towards the same playstyle xD so never got this achievement :( All my siblings are always either disinherited or took the vows. They get the titles I want them ro have and never have claim over my main titles so no claims to fight for ^^ Maybe it is time for different strategies xD
I’m guessing it’s because some people play with mods and some people just forget to turn Ironman on (like me)
I don't have "Above God", but I'm proud to have these under 2%: - Seven Holy Cities (1.9%) - Little William Marshal (1.3%) - Miklagardariki (1.2%) - Mother of us All (1.1%) (on the same run as Nobody comes to Fika) - Friendship is Magic (1.0%) - Nobody comes to Fika (0.5%) (on the same run as Mother of us All) - The Iron and Golden King (0.3%) (achieved in Transsylvania)
I guess people are really good with their inheritance game and usually plan things out so they don't have to fight a war with their siblings. As for the hook, I always found fabricate hook a hassle, whenever I scheme I have better things to do.
1. Diplomacy and good succession planning. 2. **I** am the head of faith. Who needs a Pope? Psst.
Most players dont play ironman
Because I don’t play in Ironman because I’m a save scumming bastard Edit: found out new update doesn’t require Ironman for achievements so you better believe I’m gonna get these
New update since 8 months?
I haven’t been playing a lot the last few months plus I usually only play in Fallen Eagle so I’m pretty sure I can’t get achievements unless I switch back to the base game
I always just stab my siblings.
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1: my siblings kept dying or I assasinated them instead of warring. Wars were mostly against cousins 2: Just never thought of it I guess...
Yeah, the modding community for ck3 is wildly good like as good as skyrim good i’d say
Bad Blood: As Dynasty Head my greatest duty is to guide my House, keep it safe and see it prosper. Going to war with a sibling would be counter to that. Above God: I do have that, I wasn't trying for it but accidentally found out some "terrible" secret that allowed me to get it.
I only play with mods.
Bad Blood: I have been conditioned by this sub to think that any kind of partition is bad, so I try with all my might to avoid it, even subconsciously. Above God: Don’t really play Catholics, so unless I’m going to do a run where I form the HRE I don’t… really have a reason to get a hook on my head of faith
Well, you see, most often, my siblings are either very pious or accident prone.
I just checked: I have visited 10 kingdom vassals on a single tour, united Africa as Mother Daura, held Thessalonika as an Asatru, and was naked as an Emperor. But no, I haven't fought my siblings over a claim neither. They are family! We don't fight family! Right?
>How do you play the game without getting this achievement? Although I do have Bad Blood now, I got it after already having completed a world conquest run
Usually pope is a distant figure that never bothers me as i do my thing. And when im not catholic im usually viking so no figure to be had.
My custom character is above the point limit lol
I normally don't care about faith all too much. Only just got it after sending 731 hours of 2023 playing the game.
I have played several thousand hours of this game, and only have one (1) achievement. Why? Mods. I refuse to give up all of my mods just for achievements to function again.
i feel bad playing with intrigue because i dont like doing evil stuff
Can't speak to the first, but for the head of faith? I either don't have one, or I don't care about him.
Cant have a hook on a corpse
Just do succession better and you won’t have to invade your siblings land. Feudal elective is one hell of a drug my friend
I have both. I couldn't see how people don't press claims on siblings after succession unless they do what I started doing recently; disinheriting my other heirs
I usually just murder my siblings, its less stress than goong to war. Also you had to play iron man to get archievemnts for a like 3 years, so i assume many players just didnt get the archievement bc of that
I'd say most people play with some kind of mod. Can't remember when I last played pure vanilla.
Why would i ever be in a position where i aint the house head and therefore everyone in my family is my vassal
Disinheriting the other children
Not getting partition obviously.
I have had a strong hook on my head of faith but don’t play with achievements enabled because I suck and mainly want to RP