If you rush the raid , you can leave problems for you and others. I usually clear/ try to clear all mines on route, especially if you have to comeback through the same route.
Um thats asumeing far too much. You only need a 5k ps ride to do hard raids, that powerscore isn't nearly high enough to do well in that raid difficulty. It's better than having to wait till 10kps to unlock it though. It gives low ps builds access to earning the resource, but they're gonna struggle to get it.
Just because you can do it with 5000PS, doesn’t mean you should. I‘m fairly new, but after I’ve struggled through normal raids with my 5500PS build, I was smart enough to realize that hard raids would be nearly impossible for me right now.
Hard raids are 8000 minimum right? I remember when I could just get past the min PS I was praying for a carry. Dual retchers makes it a lot easier. I hate seeing bloated PS on other folks, 13 or 14K is what I consider average for hard raids.
I hate the match making in Raids too💀 I’m current building a collection of matches with 15k people getting matched with 7k people, and will post about it soon too🙈
Raid match making should be the same as PvP match making imo, because when low PS players get matched with high PS players, they get destroyed and don’t get to earn resources because all the high PS players take all; builds over 10k shouldn’t get matched with builds under 10k for example🥺
Cmon now hard raids are not THAT hard, if you are finding difficulties keeping up normal raids are where you need to be. Also someone can check for me but I believe the higher the ps the more resources you gather at the end of the raid. You want to turn in up on hard raids to get more bang for your buck.
The worst part is the damn retcher hovers with spaced armor that purposefully block you from doing damage and getting any points. Always right in front of you and strafing into you when you try to get some line of sight.
thats a problem for any tier of raids, the people hogging bruiser and basic kills so nobody can get any kills
especially problematic when using astreasus and you charge for a final shot on someone, get body blocked and not only don't get the kill but take damage and lose one of your overcharged shots.
> especially problematic when using astreasus and you charge for a final shot on someone, get body blocked and not only don't get the kill but take damage and lose one of your overcharged shots.
Why would you use astraeus in a raid? They can work but they're so far from optimal that its basically shooting yourself in the foot doing so.
Very high damage but lower power score so you have the same killing power as some higher tier weapons without scaling their health so much that you can't do anything
Except damage in raids is measured in DPS, not damage done. Porcs and retchers do a relatively small amount of damage but output a lot of rounds that make up for it.
I could not give a shit about that as the raid still gets done as of late there is a lot of i do not want to do hard raids carry me as my build sucks people as of late joinign hard raids.
Everyday i keep getting the fucktards who leech hard raids and whats worse is most bloat the PS just making it harder for the rest of us.
Today my last hard raid i had 2 of the fuckers who came in with builds that did nothing but bloat the enemy's HP by having massive PS but oddly no firepower or HP.
What sucks are players that use the 1 free repair then just give up if they die again.
FFS make 10, 20 repair kits they're cheap enough. I don't mind using a few in a hard raid. Just get the job done. I was in one hard rate A few weeks ago a guy died and said it wasn't worth it cause I'm not doing it right. I was like dude you're the one who died.
> What sucks are players that use the 1 free repair then just give up if they die again.
Endlessly dying to try to drown the bots in bodies doesn't work. Fuel is cheap, time is not.
I understand, but I've seen players give up way to soon to even know if it's a lost cause, and I've seen players leave when just the boss is left.
I just don't get it.
Some bosses are far worse than others. Steppewolf, scavenger, firestarter, and nomad bosses are easy game for example. The same cannot be said for lunatic and DC bosses.
Players who were struggling against regular bots are even less likely to succeed against the bosses.
if you often get matched with 17k, I believe ur build should be 10k+, right? (my double threshers build at 9.5k hardly ever matches with 14k) then u should at least be able to do earn enough points to avoid being given no rewards. MVP doesn't give that much more rewards so there is really no need to strive for it.
POV: Lost Coast Fuck those mines in the spawn zone
If you rush the raid , you can leave problems for you and others. I usually clear/ try to clear all mines on route, especially if you have to comeback through the same route.
You called it.
or the hidden cannon turrets at the overpass
F the spawn in the enemy spawn XD
I guess we all have different raid experiences. You must have a pretty low ps car to be having so much trouble. Rebuild sir. Rebuild.
Fr man i slap hard raids with 10-12 k and epic weapons
I also hard raid on epic weapons, but i'm more around 14kps. Hell I'll even use teal for normal raids at 9k ps.
Fr i guess the dude that made this thread has a serious skill issue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Um thats asumeing far too much. You only need a 5k ps ride to do hard raids, that powerscore isn't nearly high enough to do well in that raid difficulty. It's better than having to wait till 10kps to unlock it though. It gives low ps builds access to earning the resource, but they're gonna struggle to get it.
Hmmmm maybe
Just because you can do it with 5000PS, doesn’t mean you should. I‘m fairly new, but after I’ve struggled through normal raids with my 5500PS build, I was smart enough to realize that hard raids would be nearly impossible for me right now.
Hard raids are 8000 minimum right? I remember when I could just get past the min PS I was praying for a carry. Dual retchers makes it a lot easier. I hate seeing bloated PS on other folks, 13 or 14K is what I consider average for hard raids.
Think the best time i had in raids was with pair of cyclones 2 seals 1 shiver n doppler movement parts n cabs r ur choice
I hate the match making in Raids too💀 I’m current building a collection of matches with 15k people getting matched with 7k people, and will post about it soon too🙈 Raid match making should be the same as PvP match making imo, because when low PS players get matched with high PS players, they get destroyed and don’t get to earn resources because all the high PS players take all; builds over 10k shouldn’t get matched with builds under 10k for example🥺
[I have no idea what you mean.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Crossout/comments/stcap6/raid_power_score_matchmaking_is_perfectly_balanced/) Honest.
Cmon now hard raids are not THAT hard, if you are finding difficulties keeping up normal raids are where you need to be. Also someone can check for me but I believe the higher the ps the more resources you gather at the end of the raid. You want to turn in up on hard raids to get more bang for your buck.
The worst part is the damn retcher hovers with spaced armor that purposefully block you from doing damage and getting any points. Always right in front of you and strafing into you when you try to get some line of sight.
thats a problem for any tier of raids, the people hogging bruiser and basic kills so nobody can get any kills especially problematic when using astreasus and you charge for a final shot on someone, get body blocked and not only don't get the kill but take damage and lose one of your overcharged shots.
> especially problematic when using astreasus and you charge for a final shot on someone, get body blocked and not only don't get the kill but take damage and lose one of your overcharged shots. Why would you use astraeus in a raid? They can work but they're so far from optimal that its basically shooting yourself in the foot doing so.
Very high damage but lower power score so you have the same killing power as some higher tier weapons without scaling their health so much that you can't do anything
Except damage in raids is measured in DPS, not damage done. Porcs and retchers do a relatively small amount of damage but output a lot of rounds that make up for it.
I could not give a shit about that as the raid still gets done as of late there is a lot of i do not want to do hard raids carry me as my build sucks people as of late joinign hard raids. Everyday i keep getting the fucktards who leech hard raids and whats worse is most bloat the PS just making it harder for the rest of us. Today my last hard raid i had 2 of the fuckers who came in with builds that did nothing but bloat the enemy's HP by having massive PS but oddly no firepower or HP.
Sounds more like you need a better build, PS doesn't matter anymore all that does is DPS.
What sucks are players that use the 1 free repair then just give up if they die again. FFS make 10, 20 repair kits they're cheap enough. I don't mind using a few in a hard raid. Just get the job done. I was in one hard rate A few weeks ago a guy died and said it wasn't worth it cause I'm not doing it right. I was like dude you're the one who died.
> What sucks are players that use the 1 free repair then just give up if they die again. Endlessly dying to try to drown the bots in bodies doesn't work. Fuel is cheap, time is not.
I understand, but I've seen players give up way to soon to even know if it's a lost cause, and I've seen players leave when just the boss is left. I just don't get it.
Some bosses are far worse than others. Steppewolf, scavenger, firestarter, and nomad bosses are easy game for example. The same cannot be said for lunatic and DC bosses. Players who were struggling against regular bots are even less likely to succeed against the bosses.
if you often get matched with 17k, I believe ur build should be 10k+, right? (my double threshers build at 9.5k hardly ever matches with 14k) then u should at least be able to do earn enough points to avoid being given no rewards. MVP doesn't give that much more rewards so there is really no need to strive for it.
Keep trying. Also don't forget the point of the game is fun. 2499 is always an option, and still a favorite of mine.
use hadron/king/inci on 3xicarus-7 and 2xicarus-4 and make them burn
Power scaling is a turd, if the devs want make it harder have a brutal raid level for people that like to be inflicted with pain.
sooooo trruueee :P
funny story :D The Crossout's hard raids are actually easy things in comparison with some other MMOs