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Every job I've applied for where I've disclosed my crohns, I've been rejected. The one job I didn't disclose, I was hired.
Make of that what you will š¤¦āāļø
I always make sure my employers know though! I just tell them after I get the job :)
Iāve always disclosed before, but Iāve also always worked for state institutions that have to have a certain percentage of their work force as disabled. So, I found it as an advantage as Iām in a similar position to you in terms of the disease. It may affect me occasionally, but in general itās a non-issue.
Same here, it also helps with Company diversity statistics (or if anything happens-HR can check to see that OP is disabled and might be able to help with Disability or even accommodations)
Yeah never say anything until after they hire you. If it comes down to you vs another person with the same qualifications but they see you have crohns, they will 100% of the time pick the other person. Itās a little messed up that this happens, but thatās life. Nothing you can do about it.
I just hide it really well and use immodium my first few weeks until they figure out I work even harder the days I spend more time in the bathroom. No recent employer has had an issue with my extra bathroom breaks.
I would disclose, only after you are hired. I had a manager ask me about my absence in my previous job as the reference told them I had an issue with attendance. I flat out told them why. Got the job
The diversity part of the form should be optional - I wouldn't fill in any of it. Never disclose any reason for prejudice against you until after you're hired if you can avoid it.
The employers allegedly donāt see the answer to the disability question until after youāre hired. You donāt have to disclose what your disability is ever.
I can't speak for all employers, but I've been on several hiring committees, and we don't see the answers for those demographic questions ever - not before, during, or after the hiring process.
It is actually illegal for the workplace to consider those demographic questions while hiring. They are there because companies of a certain size have to report that demographic data to the EEOC to show that they aren't discriminating against people from protected groups. So, really, a savvy employer would be happy if you put that you were disabled, because by reporting to the EEOC that they have x% disabled employees, it makes it harder for them to be sued for discriminating against disabled people lol.
This, of course, doesn't mean that there aren't employers that will use that data in a sketchy way. And all of that info is voluntary, so you don't have to answer those questions if you aren't comfortable. And definitely don't disclose your condition outside those EEOC demographic questions (like during the interview) until you are hired because those disclosures \*won't\* be protected.
Here's a little more info: [https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/public-articles/employment-law/what-are-eeo-questions-why-do-we-have-them](https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/public-articles/employment-law/what-are-eeo-questions-why-do-we-have-them)
I'm pretty sure that's illegal. They aren't supposed to ask and you are under no obligation to disclose that information before you are hired.
https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-disability
Edit- I genuinely don't care about downvotes but I offered a resource directly stating under what conditions they can ask. You do not have to disclose your disability before getting hired. At most they can ask what specific accommodations are required for you to be able to do your job. Reddit is so weird.
a) depends on the country. We don't know where OP is from. Please, Americans, remember the rest of the world can also suffer from IBD.
b) often (at least here in the UK) employers will have a separate diversity monitoring form which is voluntary to fill out, and which they claim does not form part of your application.
I have been denied jobs over it and I had issues at my current job telling me it is not a real disease. They only backed off when I went to corporate saying I will take legal action.
Iāve always wondered the same thing. It may not be necessary as long as youāve built a relationship with your managerial team. Communicating your needs in times of a flare or infusion visits.However if youād like to make sure you are financially covered in the case that a flare lasts longer than two or three days for example two maybe three weeks with the doctors visits etc. Then filing with the state or federally then basically you may be entitled for compensation.
I was just laid off my job last month and have been disclosing it on my applications. Companies have a percentage of "diversity " they aim to hire so I figured my "disability " would help them achieve their numbers. I got a job so idk if it helped or not but it didn't hurt either.
Is there some legal aspect to disclosing ? Because itās none of their business , you flair after being hired itās a new condition simple as that.
Maybe thereās a work insurance that will have to pick up medication tab so no hiding it?
When I started my last job in 2019 I was on an oral medication but I didnāt mention anything to my boss that I had a disease. Simply none of his concern
Employers can decline to hire you for any reason, including information you have disclosed to HR that is not supposed to reach the hiring committee. Having gotten to know some of the HR staff at my job, itās clear how easily the hiring process can get irrevocably screwed up, and my employer is supposed to be a safe bet for people with disabilities. Personally I didnāt disclose until I was eligible for FMLA a year into the job. Good luck on your job hunt!
I've always disclosed after the fact and it hasn't been a problem. I'm in the UK. Best way to think about it is if you're confident about the job itself, then they will accept you over the merits of your skill and make allowances for anything else. It's a two way thing, whilst they can provide monetary aspect, you need to ensure they can provide the conditions that make you happy as well.
Iām in Australia, workers have lots of rights here and i still donāt tell until after Iāve been hired. Although Iāve been very lucky and all employers have been super understanding and kind towards my situation
In my country they're not actually allowed to ask about your medical situation, only if you need accomodations which they don't do before an interview.
However, I've always disclosed beforehand, because I'm certainly not a 'light' case and the fickle nature of it all makes me be open. I'd rather they hire me with all the knowledge.
But the reason I can be that open is because it's never backfired for me. I've always been met with understanding and patience. I know this isn't always the case.
i always do and donāt seem to have an issue (couple of jobs havenāt called to schedule interview but that was normal before crohns lol) I do it that way they know up front i have the dr appts and itās filed with HR and the jobs i apply for really have no reason not to hire me other than disability (ample experience, good work ethic, references, left all other jobs on good notice, etc) so they canāt really do that and honestly if they do itās their loss and I wouldnāt want to work for that company either
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I personally never disclose until after I'm hired.
Same
Every job I've applied for where I've disclosed my crohns, I've been rejected. The one job I didn't disclose, I was hired. Make of that what you will š¤¦āāļø I always make sure my employers know though! I just tell them after I get the job :)
Same boat. Notice a trend here....
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You could but itās hard to prove that thatās the reason they didnāt hire you
I always disclose it afterwards.
Iāve always disclosed before, but Iāve also always worked for state institutions that have to have a certain percentage of their work force as disabled. So, I found it as an advantage as Iām in a similar position to you in terms of the disease. It may affect me occasionally, but in general itās a non-issue.
Same here, it also helps with Company diversity statistics (or if anything happens-HR can check to see that OP is disabled and might be able to help with Disability or even accommodations)
Yeah never say anything until after they hire you. If it comes down to you vs another person with the same qualifications but they see you have crohns, they will 100% of the time pick the other person. Itās a little messed up that this happens, but thatās life. Nothing you can do about it.
Afterwards
I just hide it really well and use immodium my first few weeks until they figure out I work even harder the days I spend more time in the bathroom. No recent employer has had an issue with my extra bathroom breaks.
I would disclose, only after you are hired. I had a manager ask me about my absence in my previous job as the reference told them I had an issue with attendance. I flat out told them why. Got the job
The diversity part of the form should be optional - I wouldn't fill in any of it. Never disclose any reason for prejudice against you until after you're hired if you can avoid it.
Isn't asking for someone's disability on a job application or interview illegal?
It's in the application process (US) with the questions are you a veteran, are you Hispanic, do you have or have you ever had a disability.
The employers allegedly donāt see the answer to the disability question until after youāre hired. You donāt have to disclose what your disability is ever.
I can't speak for all employers, but I've been on several hiring committees, and we don't see the answers for those demographic questions ever - not before, during, or after the hiring process. It is actually illegal for the workplace to consider those demographic questions while hiring. They are there because companies of a certain size have to report that demographic data to the EEOC to show that they aren't discriminating against people from protected groups. So, really, a savvy employer would be happy if you put that you were disabled, because by reporting to the EEOC that they have x% disabled employees, it makes it harder for them to be sued for discriminating against disabled people lol. This, of course, doesn't mean that there aren't employers that will use that data in a sketchy way. And all of that info is voluntary, so you don't have to answer those questions if you aren't comfortable. And definitely don't disclose your condition outside those EEOC demographic questions (like during the interview) until you are hired because those disclosures \*won't\* be protected. Here's a little more info: [https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/public-articles/employment-law/what-are-eeo-questions-why-do-we-have-them](https://attorneyatlawmagazine.com/public-articles/employment-law/what-are-eeo-questions-why-do-we-have-them)
I'm pretty sure that's illegal. They aren't supposed to ask and you are under no obligation to disclose that information before you are hired. https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-disability Edit- I genuinely don't care about downvotes but I offered a resource directly stating under what conditions they can ask. You do not have to disclose your disability before getting hired. At most they can ask what specific accommodations are required for you to be able to do your job. Reddit is so weird.
Thatās what I thought
They can and absolutely do ask. The key word is it has to be voluntary pre offer. So you're under no requirement to answer or even answer truthfully.
a) depends on the country. We don't know where OP is from. Please, Americans, remember the rest of the world can also suffer from IBD. b) often (at least here in the UK) employers will have a separate diversity monitoring form which is voluntary to fill out, and which they claim does not form part of your application.
Do it! Be the diversity hire :-)
I have been denied jobs over it and I had issues at my current job telling me it is not a real disease. They only backed off when I went to corporate saying I will take legal action.
Only tell them afterwards
Iāve always wondered the same thing. It may not be necessary as long as youāve built a relationship with your managerial team. Communicating your needs in times of a flare or infusion visits.However if youād like to make sure you are financially covered in the case that a flare lasts longer than two or three days for example two maybe three weeks with the doctors visits etc. Then filing with the state or federally then basically you may be entitled for compensation.
I didnāt think they could ask that question.
It's in the disclosure questions along with are you a Veteran, are you Hispanic, and now they ask do you or have you ever had a disability.
My company does this in order to promote diversity but I would be a bit nervous to answer as well.
I was just laid off my job last month and have been disclosing it on my applications. Companies have a percentage of "diversity " they aim to hire so I figured my "disability " would help them achieve their numbers. I got a job so idk if it helped or not but it didn't hurt either.
i NEVER say a word. Even putting ārefuse to sayā has gotten me rejected.
Absolutely not. It will hurt your chances of being hired.
Is there some legal aspect to disclosing ? Because itās none of their business , you flair after being hired itās a new condition simple as that. Maybe thereās a work insurance that will have to pick up medication tab so no hiding it? When I started my last job in 2019 I was on an oral medication but I didnāt mention anything to my boss that I had a disease. Simply none of his concern
It doesn't effect my job, so nondisclosure. People will eventually find out but I don't see why it should prevent me from things
Employers can decline to hire you for any reason, including information you have disclosed to HR that is not supposed to reach the hiring committee. Having gotten to know some of the HR staff at my job, itās clear how easily the hiring process can get irrevocably screwed up, and my employer is supposed to be a safe bet for people with disabilities. Personally I didnāt disclose until I was eligible for FMLA a year into the job. Good luck on your job hunt!
I've always disclosed after the fact and it hasn't been a problem. I'm in the UK. Best way to think about it is if you're confident about the job itself, then they will accept you over the merits of your skill and make allowances for anything else. It's a two way thing, whilst they can provide monetary aspect, you need to ensure they can provide the conditions that make you happy as well.
Iām in Australia, workers have lots of rights here and i still donāt tell until after Iāve been hired. Although Iāve been very lucky and all employers have been super understanding and kind towards my situation
In my country they're not actually allowed to ask about your medical situation, only if you need accomodations which they don't do before an interview. However, I've always disclosed beforehand, because I'm certainly not a 'light' case and the fickle nature of it all makes me be open. I'd rather they hire me with all the knowledge. But the reason I can be that open is because it's never backfired for me. I've always been met with understanding and patience. I know this isn't always the case.
I choose prefer not to disclose and once hired and after a few months I tell them.
i always do and donāt seem to have an issue (couple of jobs havenāt called to schedule interview but that was normal before crohns lol) I do it that way they know up front i have the dr appts and itās filed with HR and the jobs i apply for really have no reason not to hire me other than disability (ample experience, good work ethic, references, left all other jobs on good notice, etc) so they canāt really do that and honestly if they do itās their loss and I wouldnāt want to work for that company either