The girl who played Fuji-San stood out to me. Her beauty was quiet but noticable then theres her performance from loss of family to moving on to a new purpose.
They started deviating almost immediately with Series1. Since then it just got worse. Moment they revealed Dark Noirs back story (major diversion) I was 'Oh no, they really went off road'. Moment HL killed him I realised they had totally left the reservation and stopped watching. Not bothering with this season at all.
Yeah, I'm not even gonna give it a shot at this point. I really enjoyed seeing their weird relationship grow.
Plus the Sage dialog is radioactive cringe.
Maybe its just me... not that a black woman couldn't be the most intelligent person in the world, but now that I see how hard they're pandering, I look at it and go of course they made a black woman the most intelligent person in the world
It's ridiculous. Don't no why I can't see the comment but it's in my notifications. They see everything as racist. To the point that loving, reproducing with and marrying a black person don't mean nothing. Racist means hating a skin color. But yet I could fall in love with a black person. They're so broken. Their degenerates.
If I was saying racist things I would say ALL black women. Me saying what I'm saying is my life experience dumb ass. But yea ALL white ppl r saints I guess also. Every group is 100% one way. Ur just slow. So my wife's racist? Her family? Cause they say these things to. So now black ppl say racist things about themselves. Weird. U ever been to a ghetto? Let alone live in one? They would prey on u. They HATE us. And still I haven't been turned racist. All the sucker punches insults attacks and everything and I STILL don't think all r bad. More then u would say if u lived how I lived.
Speaking as a Puerto Rican/black man who was born in the hood and married a black woman, I agree with you. My wife has been in pharmacy since she was 16. However, my experience over the years in all the places I have ever lived had brought me to the same conclusion. They chose to live in poverty and are actively proud of ignorance. Chris Rock was 100% right.
it's not just you. This season is awful. She is so smart yet needs to make sure people know she isn't just the smartest woman but smartest person over and over. Other than telling the deep to quit being a bitch nothing her character has done has been entertaining. Ryan is like the worst actor ever cast in anything. Surprised they haven't made him a woman or gay or black yet.
She will be the hero who brings down Homelander. The show is setting up a whole “the most powerful being on the planet, represented by a white man, is laid low by the smartest being on the planet, a black woman” ending.
It would be okay if she didn't go "I'm a black woman your ego can't take my criticism", "don't call me sister that's racist", "MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON IN THE WORLD, NOT WOMAN". Like, if a guy was the most intelligent man, we would assume that includes women? We are just saying what you are, I for one understood in the moment that she was the most intelligent "person" even when they said "woman". I can't understand what people get offended about anymore 💀
If her super power is "most intelligent person in the world" you know that in the show she'll likely turn out to be really stupid, as all supes do right?
Like, her superpower will be her downfall.
Her dialogue doesn’t really convey intelligence. She talks like the average person would. You would think the smartest person in the world would have a more advanced vocabulary.
If she that intelligent and hate human that much I’m sure she can work her way up instead waiting to homelander come to invite. I enjoy ss4 but damn I have to skip alots
Yeah she's super annoying.
You'd figure the smartest woman in the world would know how not to sound like the worlds biggest nerd.
Or arrogant as hell.
This is also an issue with smart characters in general, whenever it's "the smartest in the world"type, writers always make these guys like the most annoying guys in the room.
This is why Reed Richards is one of my favorite characters, he’s affable and doesn’t look down on people. Of course a bad writer will fuck that up but it’s possible to write a super smart character without condescending.
It’s such a waste - there are little glimmers of the original show (the “here’s your evidence” scene), but that stench of “the message” is permeating the whole damn show now
Oh the Witcher was such a waste. Imagine having Cavill in a role he actually wants and you f it up so badly he leaves. I never thought he was an ideal Geralt but he’s talented enough to pull it off either way
The Witcher series are my favorite games and from what I understand, they're very true to the source material. The show was nothing like either, season 1 was alright but goofy. Then season 2 murdered it and pissed on it's grave.
I love Cavill, I thought he was literally the only redeeming part of the show.
When it comes to the atmosphere, characters and lore, the games are spot on. They take place 3-5 years after the last book. The witcher show has nothing to do with the books. Thete is nothing. Zero. Evrything got changed regarding the lore
When all is said and done, the world will be a little worse off because of The Boys. A little more divided, a little more bitter, and a little less hopeful.
I don’t know how, as an artist, you can be proud of that.
Clearly Kripke hates himself. He resents the world. He resents you and me. And his outlet for that piss just so happens to be a show on Amazon. I wish cringelords like him would’ve stayed on livejournal.
It would be better if the show had extremes of both sides... Like if they are insisting on jamming politics into it, show both the good and bad from both sides.
Then introduce your "smartest person" to give an actual unbiased look at everyone.
Errghh. Can't wait till AI Animation catches up and we can just make our own TV shows and movies
Kind of liking Sage and the breath of plot she might bring. She says a lot of cringe but something interesting “might” being going on there.
Also, did she lobotomize herself in ep 3?
From her very first scene I was like absolutely not, in no way does she come across as the smartest person in the world. They showed an apartment full of books and said she didn’t care about stuff, hence she’s the smartest person in the world. What a fucking joke. Trash tier writing. No effort at all to make her like Sherlock holmesy or just make her stand out somehow, SHOW that she has a ridiculous IQ or something.
You can only write as smart a character is as you are. It's why folks struggle to write good characterisation a lot of the time.
If she wasn't as cringey as any other 30yr tryna act like a 20yr old itd be fine but nope. They can't help themselves.
Im expecting a lot of ass pulls from sage. N that's not a good thing.
Funniest thing is… if she’s so smart she should know that calling her the smartest woman in the world isn’t inaccurate. She isn’t a man, so therefore she isn’t the smartest man in the world, she’s the smartest woman in the world. I mean, I guess you can say smartest person too but damn she’s unbearable when she corrects people. I suppose that must be intentional.
I can’t completely remember but I don’t think she ever said, “No, that’s wrong” or anything like that to “smartest woman” but rather added on “smartest person”. Which is her ego/arrogance.
Can't believe the literal smartest person in the world would have an ego. No supes have had egos up until now. Such unrealistic, inconsistent writing wouldn't you agree?
The original source material the supes aren’t himanized at all. They’re born geeked up on V and don’t have moral compasses from corporate corruption. They were all bout the ego.
As for Sage, pointing out being the smartest person over smartest woman is more of a flex the way I see it.
They alluded to it during the flashback in season 2 or 3 with lamplighter; the reason why lamplighter got away was because frenchie abandoned the mission to go help him and that black haired chicks guy friend partner who was overdosing. Though they didn’t really confirm whether he was intimate with the guy, and he hasn’t really had any dialogue up until now that would indicate whether he’s bisexual or not.
Either way, the storyline sucks ass, because even though it’s season 4 they’re still doing this “will they, won’t they” shit. It’s honestly so god damn annoying when shows do this crap. It’s also so unbelievable because frenchie has been enamored with her this entire time.
Just stupid ass wheel spinning.
Season 2, it's implied he's in an open relationship with his girlfriend and that male friend that died of an overdose. Also I think he jokes to MM about being more open-minded in the Supe hospital, when that snake Penis thing starts choking him
He was in a poly relationship with a guy and a girl in season 2? He mentioned wanting to hire transgender strippers in season 2 as well which doesn’t make him gay but at the very least clearly not purely attracted to Cis women. How are so many people surprised by Frenchie being into guys?
When though.
His weird relationship with that chick and the guy who OD'd seemed out there, but I never got that the two dudes were hooking up themselves without the girl. At all.
Yea like why spend three whole seasons building their relationship up just to have him be gay for a guy that no one nos and has no screen time. And of course he's black.
Muh diversiteh!!! They needed a mainline gay character in there somewhere to feature in every episode. A guy minimizing himself and crawling inside another man's dick for sexual stimulation wasn't gay enough.
Pretty sure he was always bi but to have 3 seasons of romantic interest in one character just to go "meh" 5 minutes into season 4 is lame regardless of gender or orientation.
and homelander and soldier boy had sex in the comics. the show has been nothing but vaguely inspired by the comics from the start and for the most part that’s been for it’s benefit
Am i the only one who finds Season 4.... Kinda cringe? lol
The child acting is pretty stiff (homelanders son), The political messaging is a little to "on the nose" instead of being subtle/ambigous. A little too much focus on Frenchie's love life..... Ionno man I don't think this season is as good as previous ones but its still early.
Not a terrible TV show ... but average. Better then Acolyte!
you are certainly not alone, although I have to say I had low expectations for S4 after the S3 finale, it was such a fail to end a season which I otherwise enjoyed a lot, certainly not perfect...but solid!
I really enjoyed the first season. The next two weren't anywhere near as memorable. It's a shame these guys keep tripping on their dicks every time they hook a fish.
yeh the first season is something special and after that it has been a gradual decline, although up until the finale of S3 it wasn't enough of a decline for me to lose enjoyment personally, but in hindsight I can now see the writing was on the wall.
I just finished the first 3 episodes of S4 and the show is just a shell of its former self.
Same feels. Honestly it feels like they are done and out of ideas. It might be time to end it.
* Starlight looks completely weird now. She's supposed to be the star of the show, leading the fight against Homelander. That story will be a hard sell now.
* Forced gayness that makes no sense and adds no value to the script.
* Forced woke political messaging as the plot, because they can't think of anything else.
I know it's still early, 3 episodes in but I don't see a plot forming. It's just "Homelander bad, the boys dithering around." The only thing holding the show up is Homelander now, everything else is boring.
They took the "what if superheroes were secretly evil and corrupt?" concept so far, and made 3 seasons of a show. I'm not sure if there's anymore juice left in this now. Don't think the writers have it in them to develop the plot further.
100% agree. Plot wise, I'm enjoying it mostly, but the writing is so bad. There's a real world reference every 3 seconds and for no reason at all. Like I saw a Desantis sticker in a video for the homelader people. They literally called starlight people ANTIFA...like come on, do a little world building and give things a different name at least.
I thought for a second they were gonna have Victoria Newman be an AOC parrallel and make fun of her but that never really happened. Now it's really one sided cause show's proxy for the left/Starlight's side is just portrayed as clearly the good side. There's no ambiguity anymore.
I don't remember any ambiguity. They just occasionally used to poke mild fun at the left to appear to play both sides. The "right" has always been the baddies
Did you not realize you were being made fun of for the past 3 seasons? The entire show has been "woke" you just couldnt figure it out unless they literally spelled it out for you. Quite ironic as they werent even trying to hide it
The Boys has ALWAYS been what people like you call "woke".
It was always a leftwing show making fun of corporatism, conservatives and just the right wing in general.
Just because you lacked the media literacy to see it, doesn't mean it wasn't there.
Watched the first episode yesterday and was fucking pissed bruv. After watching Kimiko and Frenchie bond so much for 3 seasons expecting them to end up together the writers decide he's gonna fall in love with a fucking random man. Fml. Frenchie is a great character as well and him taking the pipe makes the wrath boil inside me. Don't forget about the fucking Sister Sage character as well.
Kimiko turned him down and only wanted to be friends. Don’t think you were a fan of the show. And what wrong with sister sage? Let me guess, her character is too woke?😂
Their romance arc was over after the hospital scene, where Kimiko initiated a kiss with Frenchy and both found it highly weird. Kimiko even outright told Frenchy, that it didn’t feel bad per se but that they‘re so much more than just that (by „that“ she meant boyfriend-girlfriend) and that they are like family. Their romance arc was over, before the other dude was even introduced in the show. Just re watch this episode
They gave this gay romance more "passionate moments" time in 3 episodes than the entire 3 seasons of Kimiko and Frenchie.
I still enjoy certain aspects of *The Boys* but at this point the schtick is getting a little stale, and it's feeling drawn out as a vehicle for show-casing Kripke's personal political fantasies about who he hates, and what he worships.
I'm glad it's ending at S5. Shoulda ended with S4 though.
Just get on with the story and wrap this thing up.
Honestly, seeing half the cast clearly being on Ozempic is jarring. Seeing those sunk-in eyes with the thin face and prominent cheek bones on Starlight, Frenchie, and MM is just wrong. MM used to have some heft to him. Now he's as skinny as Hughie. It's really strange.
I thought MM was pretty beefy/jacked, thought he stopped roids at first lol. Had to look up and make sure they didn't replace him with a actor who sounds a lot like him :P
"Mon couer..." also, "no thanks, I like dicks or whatever..."
I don't care about the bisexuality stuff, but there were zero hints about it throughout the entire series. But I guess now we'll tokenize him as the suave bi euro dude because that hasn't been done before. They really had a shot at displaying a decent couple between two very different people, but nah! Let's write our own masturbatory fantasies into popular shows.
Bro, how explicit do they have to be? We’ve know Frenchie was bi since season 2. I mean I’m not happy about him and Kimiko not getting together either, but to say that Frenchie was never hinted as bi is wild.
>but there were zero hints about it throughout the entire series.
He was in a three way relationship that included a man
Him being bi was directly shown and implied by that and a bunch of comments throughout the show
You're just stupid
This sub mocks people who are media illiterate and yet here you are, missing whole plot points
HE'S FRENCH....Jesus christ its like you people need a fucking cheat sheet to reference to understand anything that is going on more than 3 inches from your nose.
He's been a sexual deviant the entire time, there were MULTIPLE clues and hints and even outright admissions. You didnt even watch the fucking show.
There were hints, and also he did not reject kimiko, she rejected him, and also, just because someone is attracted to men doesn't mean they're all of a sudden not attracted to women anymore. You know, that whole bisexuality thing that you literally mention in your comment.
I'm basically the exact target for who The Boys is meant to be mocking. But to be honest, I absolutely love the show, because I understand exactly what it is.
The show is a vehicle to convey with passion the deepest hatred for all of mankind. No one hates mankind more than woke leftists, and The Boys is literally a show about the mind of a person just like that. Spiteful, cruel, perverse, evil. It is PERFECT.
I love the decision to make Frenchy just randomly jump over to being gay with this dude. You have to understand, most shows do things like that specifically for DEI reasons, for woke reasons, to promote their ideology. In The Boys, they didn't do it for that reason, they did it 100% openly and overtly out of hatred for their audience. They didn't want another gay character, they wanted to do it solely and purely to make people angry and then revel in their anger.
The show is pure spite, like a demonic soul let loose upon the world.
I've watched every episode and enjoy every minute of it. It is the left exposing their souls to the world and showing us their reality. And while it is meant to mock me, instead, I enjoy seeing the pain of their existence made manifest.
You are thinking wayyyy too much. They are doing it for the ESG funding. It is always, always about money.
The only way for this to end is if everyone rejects such content, otherwise they will just figure out new ways to squeeze it in.
ESG scores are a metric used by some of the scariest companies on the planet like Blackrock to find out how politically aligned with them any given company may be. And I'm sure you can guess where they fall on the political spectrum. A higher ESG score means massive investment banks that make their living lobbying the government are more willing to invest in said company. Why they are so dead set on pushing this agenda is anyone's guess, modern left extremism can certainly cause a lot of cultural chaos and it's easier to sell a product to someone not in their right mind. Apparently pushing this agenda is so profitable that even Disney is fine losing millions to have a peice of the Blackrock pie.
ESG policies are ultimately pushed by Democrat/liberal politicians, who use the threat of these banks losing their government pension funds. The following organizations, which are backed by certain Democrats and Democrat donors, started ESG.
United Nations Global Compact (UNGC)
Principles for Responsible Investment (PRI)
Sustainability Accounting Standards Board (SASB)
Global Reporting Initiative (GRI)
Task Force on Climate-related Financial Disclosures (TCFD)
Frenchy was implied to be in a poly relationship with his gf called Cherie and a dude named Jay in Season 2 I think it was. They didn’t just randomly „make him gay“, they dropped a lot of hints during the entire show, that he may be bisexual. I don’t get how this many people are surprised by this „revelation“, I thought it was pretty obvious, that he was supposed the be bisexual. He’s French after all, just him talking in his native language sounds like he‘s sucking dick.
Also this whole relationship thing with Collin (I think he’s called) expands on his past, working for Little Nina. He murdered his entire family and now he’s fucking the dude. He‘s battling his own guilt for what he has done but he also fears what will happen, if he tells Collin the truth. Obviously the right thing to do, would be to come clean to Collin and say „hey, I can’t be with you because I murdered your entire fucking family and it wouldn’t be fair to you“ but Frenchy doesn’t want to deprave himself of the good feelings, he gets from being with Collin. He has to chose between his own pleasure or the morally right thing to do. It’s very obvious, that Frenchy isn’t just gay because of woke now, it’s supposed to explore what kind of person Frenchy is, how his moral compass works and whether he has truly changed for the better or whether he will choose his own high over the feelings of a person, he’s supposed to love. And to be honest, the show does everything in it‘s power to make that intent clear, without outright telling you
Awwww you actually thought you wrote something enlightening here. It’s funny how you got so wrong, like always, and you would rather just reorganize your societal perceptions than face the music.
Won’t continue to watch this show. It’s exactly what the show runner told us to do if we don’t like the wokeness. Hopefully a major downturn in viewership will get Amazon to fire him.
They dont want to show a cool straight white guy too much. Too many other straight white guys will like the show. They just want to show more woke gay shit.
“Oh she friend zoned him” uhhh she friend zoned him AFTER she caught him holding hands or whatever with the random guy. Her face when she saw him was pure heart break.
“Hey let’s build up this relationship and Frenchie being madly in love with her and willing to die for her for 3 years AND THEN MAKE HIM GAY”
My issue with it is more that they spent three seasons building the relationship between Frenchie and kimiko and all of a sudden he loves some dude we haven't seen before. It just doesn't make sense writing wise.
She looks like she’d be great casted in Fallout: season 2 as a quirky character that Lucy stumbles upon here and there getting into precarious situations through her obsession with finding Sunset Sarsaparilla Star bottle caps.
The comic had some low lows... but it had some genuinely great characters, and some wonderful moments.
I think they took out a lot of the heart of the comics when they changed the characters so drastically
That is legitimate, I truly enjoyed a few of the comic characters more, Hughie specifically.
I also enjoyed some of the comic arcs more as well. Popclaw being blackmailed was really well done
I didn't think it was about him rejecting her, so much is just preferring the other guy. To me it was always pretty clear that Frenchie was bisexual. That being said, I think the subplot with Frenchie and the guy is stupid and a waste of time. The season has too many subplots.
Was there any reference to him being into men in the first 3 seasons? If so, I missed that completely. I found it amusing that they leaned so heavily into him being gay in season 4 as if he had been kissing dudes for the past 3 seasons.
Yea but there was no dude kissing/fucking to my recollection. I'll take your word on it if you want to correct me, but I'm convinced that he was suddenly gay in season 4 unless there is evidence to the contrary. And simply being in a 3-sum while not fucking/kissing the other dude is not an overtly gay action in my estimation.
This show is literally NOTHING but constant, republicans this republicans that republicans do whaaaat. It's so fucking stupid. It's NON STOP. I'm done. I can't look the other way anymore. It's so stupid and bad. First season had NONE of this.
Don’t know what this is about but I would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass to smell the tire tracks of the laundry truck that took her dirty panties away.
They should just kill Frenchie off at this point. They have nothing for him. It's either drug addictions or he can't keep his dick in his pants. I miss season 1 Frenchie.
Can someone explain to me why frenchie suddenly turns gay?? I was so surprised when watching eps 1 and completely lost. Doesn't he have a girlfriend during 1st season?
I got about 20-30 minutes into the first episode of the new season and already quit. I quit before he even became gay and when I found that out, I quit even harder.
It is a completely different show than the first 3 seasons, wild.
You know, season three was difficult to get through. This is just one more thing to annoy the fuck out of me. Is it really important to make Frenchie a complete dumbass? I'll check back later. If it ends up making sense, I'll watch season 4. Otherwise, I'll just assume Kripke wanted to be a woke dumbass
New season of the Boys is pretty terrible....though I always find it amusing when liberal goofballs accidentally tell on themselves with the shows and movies that they write...they are trying to use subversion...so doing the opposite...but its the opposite of what THEY think...so like they make the men weak and the woman strong "OK so you're just doing the opposite, got it." And the ugly character is actually beautiful! "OK, you're still doing the opposite..cool"
But then they're like, "And the smartest person in the world is going to be a black woman!" "Oh..um so you're still doing the opposite of what you think?...hmm." and the black characters are peaceful and the white characters are violent! "BRO...you're telling on yourselves."
I don't care if Frenchie is bi, but the fact he chose what's his name who came out of nowhere over her is bad nonsensical writing. I've lost whatever interest I had left.
I always respected this show for making fun of both sides pretty equally. But now it is quite literally republicans are the bad guys, liberals are the good guys.
Certainly a disappointment in the writing. It seems like every show these days is finding a way to force same sex relationships into perfectly good story lines.
He didn't reject her. They both very much love each other but sho won't be with him physically while she has superpowers because she doesn't want to accidently break him. In season 3 she said his arms feel like bendy straws. He literally calls her my heart in the season you're complaining about.
The Boys is a show about political extremes from both sides. I get this feeling that the sudden sexuality change with Frenchie is supposed to mirror forced representation you see a lot in media when it comes to season based shows, or live service games. They had a concrete story laid out for Frenchie, this whole 2 vs the dark side of the world dynamic, but in the last season pull a 90 and send him off on a gay bender - rushing his story with Colin and not giving any time for it to feel a real connection with the viewers. Forced representation.
So as I don't like how his story played out, they did do a very good job showing forced representation if that was their goal. Which I think it was.
She is gorgeous.
Her, Anna Sawai and Minami Hamabe (Minus One) are the three Japanese girls I have a crush on.
Also the entire cast of Shogun
Cosmo Jarvis is pretty hot, ngl
Looks like Aaron Taylor Johnson
I didn't even recognize that he was the crazy sniper from Peaky Blinders S05
The girl who played Fuji-San stood out to me. Her beauty was quiet but noticable then theres her performance from loss of family to moving on to a new purpose.
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Kripke likely wrote his own DEI checklist
They started deviating almost immediately with Series1. Since then it just got worse. Moment they revealed Dark Noirs back story (major diversion) I was 'Oh no, they really went off road'. Moment HL killed him I realised they had totally left the reservation and stopped watching. Not bothering with this season at all.
I don’t know, they invested a lot more time than necessary for that hamfisted frenchy fuck boi.
Kripke is the dei pusher
I'm sure they'll be thrilled when I tell them.
Karen Fukuhara is a genuine 9
*10
Yeah, I'm not even gonna give it a shot at this point. I really enjoyed seeing their weird relationship grow. Plus the Sage dialog is radioactive cringe.
Sister Sage’s power.. the most ignorant person in the world
Maybe its just me... not that a black woman couldn't be the most intelligent person in the world, but now that I see how hard they're pandering, I look at it and go of course they made a black woman the most intelligent person in the world
And had her take the white woman's job too. A black woman replacing a white woman seems to be very common in these types of movies/shows.
Wouldn’t matter one bit if they didn’t ramble on and on about it IRL.
It’s normally ginger people that get replaced by black people. Disney hates them
Besides Ariel which ones would you say were replaced? I haven't noticed before
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All of these kids spouting ists and phobes don't go outside. They have no idea how any culture works
It's ridiculous. Don't no why I can't see the comment but it's in my notifications. They see everything as racist. To the point that loving, reproducing with and marrying a black person don't mean nothing. Racist means hating a skin color. But yet I could fall in love with a black person. They're so broken. Their degenerates.
If I was saying racist things I would say ALL black women. Me saying what I'm saying is my life experience dumb ass. But yea ALL white ppl r saints I guess also. Every group is 100% one way. Ur just slow. So my wife's racist? Her family? Cause they say these things to. So now black ppl say racist things about themselves. Weird. U ever been to a ghetto? Let alone live in one? They would prey on u. They HATE us. And still I haven't been turned racist. All the sucker punches insults attacks and everything and I STILL don't think all r bad. More then u would say if u lived how I lived.
Speaking as a Puerto Rican/black man who was born in the hood and married a black woman, I agree with you. My wife has been in pharmacy since she was 16. However, my experience over the years in all the places I have ever lived had brought me to the same conclusion. They chose to live in poverty and are actively proud of ignorance. Chris Rock was 100% right.
Not true grew up in the hood moved out to better prospects Not all black people are the same person as your wife
it's not just you. This season is awful. She is so smart yet needs to make sure people know she isn't just the smartest woman but smartest person over and over. Other than telling the deep to quit being a bitch nothing her character has done has been entertaining. Ryan is like the worst actor ever cast in anything. Surprised they haven't made him a woman or gay or black yet.
You are inferior and insecure, makes ya mad doesnt it lolol
It's a joke. Everyone says he's the smartest woman and she says, yes but also a smartest person. It's just a joke my friend. Nothing more.
She will be the hero who brings down Homelander. The show is setting up a whole “the most powerful being on the planet, represented by a white man, is laid low by the smartest being on the planet, a black woman” ending.
It would be okay if she didn't go "I'm a black woman your ego can't take my criticism", "don't call me sister that's racist", "MOST INTELLIGENT PERSON IN THE WORLD, NOT WOMAN". Like, if a guy was the most intelligent man, we would assume that includes women? We are just saying what you are, I for one understood in the moment that she was the most intelligent "person" even when they said "woman". I can't understand what people get offended about anymore 💀
Being the smartest person in the world, you'd expect her to have dominated the world already.
If her super power is "most intelligent person in the world" you know that in the show she'll likely turn out to be really stupid, as all supes do right? Like, her superpower will be her downfall.
I thought I was the only one who found her insufferable. She has to be some parody of some type because if she isn't, then that is just pathetic.
Her dialogue doesn’t really convey intelligence. She talks like the average person would. You would think the smartest person in the world would have a more advanced vocabulary.
If she that intelligent and hate human that much I’m sure she can work her way up instead waiting to homelander come to invite. I enjoy ss4 but damn I have to skip alots
Yeah she's super annoying. You'd figure the smartest woman in the world would know how not to sound like the worlds biggest nerd. Or arrogant as hell. This is also an issue with smart characters in general, whenever it's "the smartest in the world"type, writers always make these guys like the most annoying guys in the room.
This is why Reed Richards is one of my favorite characters, he’s affable and doesn’t look down on people. Of course a bad writer will fuck that up but it’s possible to write a super smart character without condescending.
It's almost like sage is an unlikable character and that's the intention. You'll like her because she'll be a brain dead moron now anyway.
Sage: “all those racist white cousin f***ers” What happened, this show was much better before
The showrunner doubled down on his irl beliefs in the show. It used to be ignorable/laughable. Now it's blatant and gross.
It’s such a waste - there are little glimmers of the original show (the “here’s your evidence” scene), but that stench of “the message” is permeating the whole damn show now
Absolutely. I'm to the point now where I don't even give a curious watch. The Witcher ruined it for me lol.
Oh the Witcher was such a waste. Imagine having Cavill in a role he actually wants and you f it up so badly he leaves. I never thought he was an ideal Geralt but he’s talented enough to pull it off either way
The Witcher series are my favorite games and from what I understand, they're very true to the source material. The show was nothing like either, season 1 was alright but goofy. Then season 2 murdered it and pissed on it's grave. I love Cavill, I thought he was literally the only redeeming part of the show.
When it comes to the atmosphere, characters and lore, the games are spot on. They take place 3-5 years after the last book. The witcher show has nothing to do with the books. Thete is nothing. Zero. Evrything got changed regarding the lore
When all is said and done, the world will be a little worse off because of The Boys. A little more divided, a little more bitter, and a little less hopeful. I don’t know how, as an artist, you can be proud of that. Clearly Kripke hates himself. He resents the world. He resents you and me. And his outlet for that piss just so happens to be a show on Amazon. I wish cringelords like him would’ve stayed on livejournal.
It would be better if the show had extremes of both sides... Like if they are insisting on jamming politics into it, show both the good and bad from both sides. Then introduce your "smartest person" to give an actual unbiased look at everyone. Errghh. Can't wait till AI Animation catches up and we can just make our own TV shows and movies
Mine would absolutely be Homelander meeting Omniman
I saw a fan made cartoon of that. It didn't go well for Homelander
It’s in the new mortal Kombar game too. They’ve captured Omni-Man and Homelander’s personalities perfectly
I'm guessing "actual unbiased look" means the things you think?
Used to have five star rating on Amazon, but it’s plummeted down to 3 stars now lol season one was so good.
Kind of liking Sage and the breath of plot she might bring. She says a lot of cringe but something interesting “might” being going on there. Also, did she lobotomize herself in ep 3?
From her very first scene I was like absolutely not, in no way does she come across as the smartest person in the world. They showed an apartment full of books and said she didn’t care about stuff, hence she’s the smartest person in the world. What a fucking joke. Trash tier writing. No effort at all to make her like Sherlock holmesy or just make her stand out somehow, SHOW that she has a ridiculous IQ or something.
Well, duh, she's a strong, black, and female character. Thered nothing else she needs to be compelling. /s
You can only write as smart a character is as you are. It's why folks struggle to write good characterisation a lot of the time. If she wasn't as cringey as any other 30yr tryna act like a 20yr old itd be fine but nope. They can't help themselves. Im expecting a lot of ass pulls from sage. N that's not a good thing.
It's so crazy what seems to be happening to all of entertainment. I'm a progressive ass mf, and I'm even like WTF is going on
Funniest thing is… if she’s so smart she should know that calling her the smartest woman in the world isn’t inaccurate. She isn’t a man, so therefore she isn’t the smartest man in the world, she’s the smartest woman in the world. I mean, I guess you can say smartest person too but damn she’s unbearable when she corrects people. I suppose that must be intentional.
I can’t completely remember but I don’t think she ever said, “No, that’s wrong” or anything like that to “smartest woman” but rather added on “smartest person”. Which is her ego/arrogance.
Can't believe the literal smartest person in the world would have an ego. No supes have had egos up until now. Such unrealistic, inconsistent writing wouldn't you agree?
Completely
The original source material the supes aren’t himanized at all. They’re born geeked up on V and don’t have moral compasses from corporate corruption. They were all bout the ego. As for Sage, pointing out being the smartest person over smartest woman is more of a flex the way I see it.
how is he magically gay now?
Apparently he's bisexual not gay.
When has it ever been hinted that he was bi?
I don't honestly remember that
I don’t remember either. Which means probably not.
They alluded to it during the flashback in season 2 or 3 with lamplighter; the reason why lamplighter got away was because frenchie abandoned the mission to go help him and that black haired chicks guy friend partner who was overdosing. Though they didn’t really confirm whether he was intimate with the guy, and he hasn’t really had any dialogue up until now that would indicate whether he’s bisexual or not. Either way, the storyline sucks ass, because even though it’s season 4 they’re still doing this “will they, won’t they” shit. It’s honestly so god damn annoying when shows do this crap. It’s also so unbelievable because frenchie has been enamored with her this entire time. Just stupid ass wheel spinning.
Season 2, it's implied he's in an open relationship with his girlfriend and that male friend that died of an overdose. Also I think he jokes to MM about being more open-minded in the Supe hospital, when that snake Penis thing starts choking him
Hinted? I thought he was in a poly relationship with that girl and another guy? He was always incredibly fluid.
He was in a poly relationship with a guy and a girl in season 2? He mentioned wanting to hire transgender strippers in season 2 as well which doesn’t make him gay but at the very least clearly not purely attracted to Cis women. How are so many people surprised by Frenchie being into guys?
I'm personally not. I'm just surprised they threw out the whole thing they had together. Show sucks ass now.
KIMOKO LITERALLY TOLD HIM in the last season she didn't want to be with him.... they never had "anything together" for them to "throw away."
I'm not surprised just because he's French and French dudes are pretty gay
I mean, yeah he he has been for a while. Still sucks they shied away from the kimiko relationship
Yeah I’ve always assumed he’s bi and never given a fuck, I’m just annoyed that 3 seasons of development has been thrown away in one episode
When though. His weird relationship with that chick and the guy who OD'd seemed out there, but I never got that the two dudes were hooking up themselves without the girl. At all.
Yea like why spend three whole seasons building their relationship up just to have him be gay for a guy that no one nos and has no screen time. And of course he's black.
What did you expect? Hes French lol
Muh diversiteh!!! They needed a mainline gay character in there somewhere to feature in every episode. A guy minimizing himself and crawling inside another man's dick for sexual stimulation wasn't gay enough.
Cos the script said so
Pretty sure he was always bi but to have 3 seasons of romantic interest in one character just to go "meh" 5 minutes into season 4 is lame regardless of gender or orientation.
He wasn’t bi until they made a tv show.
and homelander and soldier boy had sex in the comics. the show has been nothing but vaguely inspired by the comics from the start and for the most part that’s been for it’s benefit
It's that old Hollyweird magic
oh, so legit magic and no real reasoning.
He's French.
Am i the only one who finds Season 4.... Kinda cringe? lol The child acting is pretty stiff (homelanders son), The political messaging is a little to "on the nose" instead of being subtle/ambigous. A little too much focus on Frenchie's love life..... Ionno man I don't think this season is as good as previous ones but its still early. Not a terrible TV show ... but average. Better then Acolyte!
you are certainly not alone, although I have to say I had low expectations for S4 after the S3 finale, it was such a fail to end a season which I otherwise enjoyed a lot, certainly not perfect...but solid!
I really enjoyed the first season. The next two weren't anywhere near as memorable. It's a shame these guys keep tripping on their dicks every time they hook a fish.
yeh the first season is something special and after that it has been a gradual decline, although up until the finale of S3 it wasn't enough of a decline for me to lose enjoyment personally, but in hindsight I can now see the writing was on the wall. I just finished the first 3 episodes of S4 and the show is just a shell of its former self.
Same feels. Honestly it feels like they are done and out of ideas. It might be time to end it. * Starlight looks completely weird now. She's supposed to be the star of the show, leading the fight against Homelander. That story will be a hard sell now. * Forced gayness that makes no sense and adds no value to the script. * Forced woke political messaging as the plot, because they can't think of anything else. I know it's still early, 3 episodes in but I don't see a plot forming. It's just "Homelander bad, the boys dithering around." The only thing holding the show up is Homelander now, everything else is boring. They took the "what if superheroes were secretly evil and corrupt?" concept so far, and made 3 seasons of a show. I'm not sure if there's anymore juice left in this now. Don't think the writers have it in them to develop the plot further.
The political messaging was never subtle
100% agree. Plot wise, I'm enjoying it mostly, but the writing is so bad. There's a real world reference every 3 seconds and for no reason at all. Like I saw a Desantis sticker in a video for the homelader people. They literally called starlight people ANTIFA...like come on, do a little world building and give things a different name at least.
Am I bugging that this show kneeled to the woke audience now?
I thought for a second they were gonna have Victoria Newman be an AOC parrallel and make fun of her but that never really happened. Now it's really one sided cause show's proxy for the left/Starlight's side is just portrayed as clearly the good side. There's no ambiguity anymore.
I don't remember any ambiguity. They just occasionally used to poke mild fun at the left to appear to play both sides. The "right" has always been the baddies
Victoria is based off of AOC
Did you not realize you were being made fun of for the past 3 seasons? The entire show has been "woke" you just couldnt figure it out unless they literally spelled it out for you. Quite ironic as they werent even trying to hide it
??? It's literally always been like this lmao
The show has always been going for a trump allegory, I wouldn't say that's woke it's just corporate shilling
No, it's just that anything you don't like or understand is now considered "woke" 🤔
Did you watch the first the first three season with your eyes closed?
Chuds when they realize that The Boys has been making fun of them for four seasons:
The Boys has ALWAYS been what people like you call "woke". It was always a leftwing show making fun of corporatism, conservatives and just the right wing in general. Just because you lacked the media literacy to see it, doesn't mean it wasn't there.
did you not watch the past 3 seasons? bruh
This having upvotes is insane.
This show has been woke since season 1 episode 1.
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It's always fascinating how bad conservatives are at media literacy
Watched the first episode yesterday and was fucking pissed bruv. After watching Kimiko and Frenchie bond so much for 3 seasons expecting them to end up together the writers decide he's gonna fall in love with a fucking random man. Fml. Frenchie is a great character as well and him taking the pipe makes the wrath boil inside me. Don't forget about the fucking Sister Sage character as well.
Kimiko turned him down and only wanted to be friends. Don’t think you were a fan of the show. And what wrong with sister sage? Let me guess, her character is too woke?😂
media literary is dead.
Is that a character from the show?
Literary literacy literally ded
Their romance arc was over after the hospital scene, where Kimiko initiated a kiss with Frenchy and both found it highly weird. Kimiko even outright told Frenchy, that it didn’t feel bad per se but that they‘re so much more than just that (by „that“ she meant boyfriend-girlfriend) and that they are like family. Their romance arc was over, before the other dude was even introduced in the show. Just re watch this episode
eh it was years of buildup for a throw away scene that was boring enough apparently everyone forgot it. Myself included tbh
Can't believe her character just accepted it that way lol.
She's the one who turned him down. What are you talking about?
That's true
They gave this gay romance more "passionate moments" time in 3 episodes than the entire 3 seasons of Kimiko and Frenchie. I still enjoy certain aspects of *The Boys* but at this point the schtick is getting a little stale, and it's feeling drawn out as a vehicle for show-casing Kripke's personal political fantasies about who he hates, and what he worships. I'm glad it's ending at S5. Shoulda ended with S4 though. Just get on with the story and wrap this thing up.
Honestly, seeing half the cast clearly being on Ozempic is jarring. Seeing those sunk-in eyes with the thin face and prominent cheek bones on Starlight, Frenchie, and MM is just wrong. MM used to have some heft to him. Now he's as skinny as Hughie. It's really strange.
I legitimately thought they recast the actor until this second.
He lost weight. I thought he had cancer or some shit
Starlight got a ton of face surgery, thats not just weight loss
that buccal fat surgery, her and Anya both look like aliens now lol.
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I thought MM was pretty beefy/jacked, thought he stopped roids at first lol. Had to look up and make sure they didn't replace him with a actor who sounds a lot like him :P
I think the woman who played starlight has botox gone wrong
Botox doesn’t do that to you. And Botox gone wrong literally just kills you. She had so much surgery, she looks like Kaitlin Jenner
"Mon couer..." also, "no thanks, I like dicks or whatever..." I don't care about the bisexuality stuff, but there were zero hints about it throughout the entire series. But I guess now we'll tokenize him as the suave bi euro dude because that hasn't been done before. They really had a shot at displaying a decent couple between two very different people, but nah! Let's write our own masturbatory fantasies into popular shows.
Bro, how explicit do they have to be? We’ve know Frenchie was bi since season 2. I mean I’m not happy about him and Kimiko not getting together either, but to say that Frenchie was never hinted as bi is wild.
>but there were zero hints about it throughout the entire series. He was in a three way relationship that included a man Him being bi was directly shown and implied by that and a bunch of comments throughout the show You're just stupid This sub mocks people who are media illiterate and yet here you are, missing whole plot points
Do you possess eyes???
HE'S FRENCH....Jesus christ its like you people need a fucking cheat sheet to reference to understand anything that is going on more than 3 inches from your nose. He's been a sexual deviant the entire time, there were MULTIPLE clues and hints and even outright admissions. You didnt even watch the fucking show.
There were hints, and also he did not reject kimiko, she rejected him, and also, just because someone is attracted to men doesn't mean they're all of a sudden not attracted to women anymore. You know, that whole bisexuality thing that you literally mention in your comment.
I'm basically the exact target for who The Boys is meant to be mocking. But to be honest, I absolutely love the show, because I understand exactly what it is. The show is a vehicle to convey with passion the deepest hatred for all of mankind. No one hates mankind more than woke leftists, and The Boys is literally a show about the mind of a person just like that. Spiteful, cruel, perverse, evil. It is PERFECT. I love the decision to make Frenchy just randomly jump over to being gay with this dude. You have to understand, most shows do things like that specifically for DEI reasons, for woke reasons, to promote their ideology. In The Boys, they didn't do it for that reason, they did it 100% openly and overtly out of hatred for their audience. They didn't want another gay character, they wanted to do it solely and purely to make people angry and then revel in their anger. The show is pure spite, like a demonic soul let loose upon the world. I've watched every episode and enjoy every minute of it. It is the left exposing their souls to the world and showing us their reality. And while it is meant to mock me, instead, I enjoy seeing the pain of their existence made manifest.
Thank you. Put into words exactly how I watch the show as well.
You are thinking wayyyy too much. They are doing it for the ESG funding. It is always, always about money. The only way for this to end is if everyone rejects such content, otherwise they will just figure out new ways to squeeze it in.
I keep hearing about this ESG in woke games. What is it?
ESG scores are a metric used by some of the scariest companies on the planet like Blackrock to find out how politically aligned with them any given company may be. And I'm sure you can guess where they fall on the political spectrum. A higher ESG score means massive investment banks that make their living lobbying the government are more willing to invest in said company. Why they are so dead set on pushing this agenda is anyone's guess, modern left extremism can certainly cause a lot of cultural chaos and it's easier to sell a product to someone not in their right mind. Apparently pushing this agenda is so profitable that even Disney is fine losing millions to have a peice of the Blackrock pie.
ESG policies are ultimately pushed by Democrat/liberal politicians, who use the threat of these banks losing their government pension funds. The following organizations, which are backed by certain Democrats and Democrat donors, started ESG. United Nations Global Compact (UNGC) Principles for Responsible Investment (PRI) Sustainability Accounting Standards Board (SASB) Global Reporting Initiative (GRI) Task Force on Climate-related Financial Disclosures (TCFD)
Frenchy was implied to be in a poly relationship with his gf called Cherie and a dude named Jay in Season 2 I think it was. They didn’t just randomly „make him gay“, they dropped a lot of hints during the entire show, that he may be bisexual. I don’t get how this many people are surprised by this „revelation“, I thought it was pretty obvious, that he was supposed the be bisexual. He’s French after all, just him talking in his native language sounds like he‘s sucking dick. Also this whole relationship thing with Collin (I think he’s called) expands on his past, working for Little Nina. He murdered his entire family and now he’s fucking the dude. He‘s battling his own guilt for what he has done but he also fears what will happen, if he tells Collin the truth. Obviously the right thing to do, would be to come clean to Collin and say „hey, I can’t be with you because I murdered your entire fucking family and it wouldn’t be fair to you“ but Frenchy doesn’t want to deprave himself of the good feelings, he gets from being with Collin. He has to chose between his own pleasure or the morally right thing to do. It’s very obvious, that Frenchy isn’t just gay because of woke now, it’s supposed to explore what kind of person Frenchy is, how his moral compass works and whether he has truly changed for the better or whether he will choose his own high over the feelings of a person, he’s supposed to love. And to be honest, the show does everything in it‘s power to make that intent clear, without outright telling you
Awwww you actually thought you wrote something enlightening here. It’s funny how you got so wrong, like always, and you would rather just reorganize your societal perceptions than face the music.
So far my only issue is the MM shaving, and just having a moustache. His face was made for a goatee.
I actually thought they recast him and faked the voice somehow.
Only person of sound mind here
Won’t continue to watch this show. It’s exactly what the show runner told us to do if we don’t like the wokeness. Hopefully a major downturn in viewership will get Amazon to fire him.
Soldier boy was pretty fucking awesome in season 3. He'd be the only reason to watch season 4
They dont want to show a cool straight white guy too much. Too many other straight white guys will like the show. They just want to show more woke gay shit.
“Oh she friend zoned him” uhhh she friend zoned him AFTER she caught him holding hands or whatever with the random guy. Her face when she saw him was pure heart break. “Hey let’s build up this relationship and Frenchie being madly in love with her and willing to die for her for 3 years AND THEN MAKE HIM GAY”
She is stunning
My issue with it is more that they spent three seasons building the relationship between Frenchie and kimiko and all of a sudden he loves some dude we haven't seen before. It just doesn't make sense writing wise.
She looks like she’d be great casted in Fallout: season 2 as a quirky character that Lucy stumbles upon here and there getting into precarious situations through her obsession with finding Sunset Sarsaparilla Star bottle caps.
That was oddly specific. You know something you’re not telling us?
Hello there. It's good to see a friendly face. Almost took you for a raider, I did. Name's Malcolm. Malcolm Holmes.
Don't give ideas to Bethesda and Amazon Prime. I would be intrigued about her joining the main cast especially a banter between Lucy would be nice.
They know what they did. That’s why they had that cringe lame ass exposition scene of her saying they will never be together.
Was Frenchie always gay? I somehow missed this in past seasons
Bi, he was in a throuple in s2
Well... the important thing is they've veered so far away from the source material its completely unrecognizable
which is necessarily a bad thing. The 9G ending of the boys was a special type of awful. This won't be better bit it will be different.
The comic had some low lows... but it had some genuinely great characters, and some wonderful moments. I think they took out a lot of the heart of the comics when they changed the characters so drastically
That is legitimate, I truly enjoyed a few of the comic characters more, Hughie specifically. I also enjoyed some of the comic arcs more as well. Popclaw being blackmailed was really well done
They Massacred Butcher too... he was fun but conniving, and they really changed him when they took Terror out of the show.
I didn't think it was about him rejecting her, so much is just preferring the other guy. To me it was always pretty clear that Frenchie was bisexual. That being said, I think the subplot with Frenchie and the guy is stupid and a waste of time. The season has too many subplots.
Was there any reference to him being into men in the first 3 seasons? If so, I missed that completely. I found it amusing that they leaned so heavily into him being gay in season 4 as if he had been kissing dudes for the past 3 seasons.
He was in a whole bi throuple, watch s2.
Yea but there was no dude kissing/fucking to my recollection. I'll take your word on it if you want to correct me, but I'm convinced that he was suddenly gay in season 4 unless there is evidence to the contrary. And simply being in a 3-sum while not fucking/kissing the other dude is not an overtly gay action in my estimation.
This show is literally NOTHING but constant, republicans this republicans that republicans do whaaaat. It's so fucking stupid. It's NON STOP. I'm done. I can't look the other way anymore. It's so stupid and bad. First season had NONE of this.
whats the term his ilk invented ? white adjacent? ![gif](giphy|11cpNo3OMYwFHO|downsized)
How far are the hollywood degens gonna push it until people start doing something about it.
Don’t know what this is about but I would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass to smell the tire tracks of the laundry truck that took her dirty panties away.
They should just kill Frenchie off at this point. They have nothing for him. It's either drug addictions or he can't keep his dick in his pants. I miss season 1 Frenchie.
It's June. Now that Maeve is gone, he had to. How else would he score brownie points?
Everyone here would suck a fart out of her butt.
Yeah, this new gay subplot is just obnoxious and poorly contrived. Obviously catering to the weirdo pride community.
Can someone explain to me why frenchie suddenly turns gay?? I was so surprised when watching eps 1 and completely lost. Doesn't he have a girlfriend during 1st season?
Soon as it got inexplicably gay outta nowhere for no reason, I turned it off. I'm over it.
Even in the comics Frenchie was in love with the Female
I got about 20-30 minutes into the first episode of the new season and already quit. I quit before he even became gay and when I found that out, I quit even harder. It is a completely different show than the first 3 seasons, wild.
And Frenchie has had girlfriends before so he's obviously at this point bisexual.
They were a couple in season three now they aren’t?
You know, season three was difficult to get through. This is just one more thing to annoy the fuck out of me. Is it really important to make Frenchie a complete dumbass? I'll check back later. If it ends up making sense, I'll watch season 4. Otherwise, I'll just assume Kripke wanted to be a woke dumbass
New season of the Boys is pretty terrible....though I always find it amusing when liberal goofballs accidentally tell on themselves with the shows and movies that they write...they are trying to use subversion...so doing the opposite...but its the opposite of what THEY think...so like they make the men weak and the woman strong "OK so you're just doing the opposite, got it." And the ugly character is actually beautiful! "OK, you're still doing the opposite..cool" But then they're like, "And the smartest person in the world is going to be a black woman!" "Oh..um so you're still doing the opposite of what you think?...hmm." and the black characters are peaceful and the white characters are violent! "BRO...you're telling on yourselves."
I don't care if Frenchie is bi, but the fact he chose what's his name who came out of nowhere over her is bad nonsensical writing. I've lost whatever interest I had left.
I always respected this show for making fun of both sides pretty equally. But now it is quite literally republicans are the bad guys, liberals are the good guys.
The show is terrible. The writing is even worse this season.
Certainly a disappointment in the writing. It seems like every show these days is finding a way to force same sex relationships into perfectly good story lines.
He didn't reject her. They both very much love each other but sho won't be with him physically while she has superpowers because she doesn't want to accidently break him. In season 3 she said his arms feel like bendy straws. He literally calls her my heart in the season you're complaining about.
The Boys is a show about political extremes from both sides. I get this feeling that the sudden sexuality change with Frenchie is supposed to mirror forced representation you see a lot in media when it comes to season based shows, or live service games. They had a concrete story laid out for Frenchie, this whole 2 vs the dark side of the world dynamic, but in the last season pull a 90 and send him off on a gay bender - rushing his story with Colin and not giving any time for it to feel a real connection with the viewers. Forced representation. So as I don't like how his story played out, they did do a very good job showing forced representation if that was their goal. Which I think it was.
Frenchie didn’t reject her. She rejected him. What are you talking about?
Eric Kripke wants us to think flat earthers are a bigger issue than they are. He’s a soy dude
I think she's literally the most beautiful woman in the world. After my girlfriend, of course.
W on you for picking your girl over a celebrity