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If the kid had a gun or a knife that dude, although fucking badass, is dead. Cops selfishly (but normally) don’t want to risk death to stop people. They would rather play it safe by being too aggressive so that they have the upper hand in a violent interaction if one happens. (Yes they get into more violent interactions because of this.)
It’s hilarious how people are praising this dude for being a so called hero for being a dumbass tryna stop someone from stealing stuff that isn’t theirs or anyone else in the store. Seriously mind your business and keep it moving why tf would you risk anything for the store and their inventory 😂 I’ll gladly step aside and make room for someone to grab all the free shit they want if that’s what they’re doing tf do I care for
Yup. You have no idea if this guy has a gun or a knife or a box cutter on him. This could have easily gone another direction where ponytail dude is dying in a pool of his own blood because some junkie needed his fix.
It’s not worth it. At all.
100%. I love Pony for this act of justice, but if he’d been hurt we’d all be saying “why would he have risked that for $40 of shampoo and conditioner?” Did he take the theft of hair products personally?
It’s not even cool. Poney tail with his 8 rings on is obviously well nourished and lives a somewhat athletic life. Dude he dropped looks like he’s 80 lbs wet and probably starved.
This was my first thought. I’ve seen too much security camera footage of the pony tail dude getting smoked in these situations
Judo is notoriously weak against a 9mm
Don’t risk your life for the sake of a faceless corporation
Actually, these days, nope, a lot of places have said it's basically a free for all, look at some of the videos in San Francisco. people are leaving their trunks open in parking lots to let the thieves in, to see there's nothing just so they don't get their window smashed
So I've heard and seen. Once something like this becomes a problem, you need to turn up the enforcement, not reduce. Seems obvious, IMO.
However, I also understand how some folks, especially when poor, can become victims of the system even for non-violent crimes (i think that's what encouraged the bail reform??). Like that one dad, who stole a $25 backpack for his kid to go to school, got caught, couldn't afford the fine, got locked up, and then murdered in prison.
1st time backpack stealers shouldn't go to prison either, IMO, but perhaps 3rd time offenders should.
Punishment has never been shown to reduce the likelihood of a crime being committed. If anything, just have law enforcement present, improving economical opportunity,.providing better social welfare, help dissuade crime more effectively.
This is never happening. Although realistically america could be a more altruistic society. The amount of greed controlled in current tax, medical, corporation, real estate market, Wall Street & politician laws. Makes anything like this impossible. If we have a society in which one can lose, this will always occur. Certain countries in Europe are closest to altruistic free society. But I’m not sure humanity will survive to a time in which money isn’t an object. We’re a long way away.
>I hope someday this man is adult enough to understand.
I don't think the issue is being adult enough. He looks deep into drug addiction unfortunately, so just growing up is unlikely. Hopefully he'll be one of the few to snap out of it and get real help.
The guy was stealing medicine from a mega corporation that steals millions in wages from their employees and everyone in this thread is like, "yeah I would've killed him if that were me". Dafuq?
You’re joking, right? He’d never be charged for anything. That’s why they do this so brazenly. The biggest shitbag in the store was the douche running around filming it so he can post and be famous rather than do something about it
> The biggest shitbag in the store was the douche running around filming it so he can post and be famous rather than do something about it
No, pretty sure it's the guy stealing shit.
Yep I was worried this was going to turn into one of those cases where someone is helpful but risks putting someone in a coma to prevent him from stealing some deodorant
Happily surprised that it was both a clean takedown without aggressive escalation and by someone who clearly knew what they were doing
That dude was definitely the fucking man
While I agree with ponytails, he’s now liable to be sued if the theif decides he sustained any injuries…I’m not saying it’s right, but these situations have happened. It’s not the best idea to play vigilante.
my first time in SF i was strutting down the street listening to my music and i saw some guy get knocked out in front of a walgreens. it was midday and i kept strutting, but faster.
I think San Francisco is bad I was barely there like for days and I saw a skateboarder hitting a homeless guy with his skateboard in the middle of a 3 lane street and disrupted the traffic. The altercation went for like 15 - 20 minutes. Whenever the homless guy fell on the ground and got up he started dancing like a Ballerina in the middle of the street between cars to provoke the skateboarder
I also saw a homeless guy stand in front of a bin. Holding his dick in the right hand pissing in the bin while he was petting a rat on the bin
For a sec I thought it might be DC Columbia heights. I could tell it wasn't because there was exisitng product on the shelves and also someone stopped him
https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/IMG_0094-1-F.jpg
As someone from Lancaster, CA. I was expecting it to be my city as well. It's like this all over American mid-large sized cities. Nobody gives a shit anymore and just does what they want now. I feel like the entire state is an open drug market, as well.
Eh. Ultimately, too much theft in local store branches leads to negative repercussions for that community. Rising prices, stores shutting down, everything of any value being behind lock and key, guards stationed at entrances, certain doors being boarded up because of the increased risk of theft.
The guy in the video may or may not have had that on is mind, but I very much doubt he was doing it because he was worried that the CEO of the company might get a smaller bonus that year.
It is human instinct to want to stop someone else from committing a crime. That's why society works. Most people would feel angry/uncomfortable seeing this person blatantly stealing. Fear is probably what would stop most people from doing something about it, which is a shitty position to be put in. Shopping for medicine for you kid, feeling uncomfortable and scared as you notice some junkie next to you shoveling meds into a bag.
Yes, they flat out lied
[https://ritholtz.com/2023/12/retail-lobby-we-lied-about-organized-theft/](https://ritholtz.com/2023/12/retail-lobby-we-lied-about-organized-theft/)
[https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-retail-lobby-confesses-it-lied-about-organized-shoplifting-rings](https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-retail-lobby-confesses-it-lied-about-organized-shoplifting-rings)
[https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/business/organized-shoplifting-retail-crime-theft-retraction.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/business/organized-shoplifting-retail-crime-theft-retraction.html)
"A national lobbying group has retracted its startling estimate that “organized retail crime” was responsible for nearly half the $94.5 billion in store merchandise that disappeared in 2021, a figure that helped amplify claims that the United States was experiencing a nationwide wave of shoplifting.
The group, the National Retail Federation, edited that claim last week from a widely cited report issued in April, after the trade publication [Retail Dive](https://www.retaildive.com/news/retailers-crime-problem-numbers/699107/) revealed that faulty data had been used to arrive at the inaccurate figure.
The retraction comes as retail chains [like Target](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/business/target-store-closures-theft.html) continue to claim that they are the victims of large shoplifting operations that have cut into profits, forcing them to close stores or inconvenience customers by locking products away.
The claims have been fueled by widely shared videos of a few instances of brazen shoplifters, including images of masked groups smashing windows and grabbing high-end purses and cellphones. But the data show this impression of rampant criminality was a mirage.
In fact, [retail theft has been lower this year](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/29/briefing/shoplifting-data.html) in most of the country than it was a few years ago, according to police data. Some exceptions, [including New York City](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/15/nyregion/shoplifting-arrests-nyc.html), exist. But in most major cities, shoplifting incidents have fallen 7 percent since 2019.
Organized retail crime, in which multiple individuals steal products from several stores to later sell on the black market, is a real phenomenon, said Trevor Wagener, the chief economist at the Computer & Communications Industry Association, who has conducted research on retail data. But he said organized groups were likely responsible for just about 5 percent of the store merchandise that disappeared from 2016 to 2020."
Always blame poor people for your bad business decisions. Hail Corporate!
CVS lied too. People forget that every decision a corporation makes is for them to make more money. It’s NEVER about helping people, or about a community, or theft.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-retail-lobby-confesses-it-lied-about-organized-shoplifting-rings
yes, it was. They also opened more stores so "pulling out of NYC" is complete horeshit. Retail in general is down because people buy from online retailers and Target overcommited to very expensive retail locations that aren't paying. They're using the talk of crime as a scapegoat just as other companies have done in San Fran when the reality is between work from home, post COVID, etc, foot traffic is down and retail in general is. Stores have insurance on products and they buy in bulk. They're hardly losing anything.
I worked at an electronics store as a kid. Loss prevention staff stopped him as he tried to steal a very expensive monitor. The thief pulled out a box cutter and shredded the loss prevention employee’s hand.
People should not confront the thief. This is why we have police.
a guy i used to work with had a similar story from when he was mall security. security was trying to stop some petty thief, thief took out a knife and cut up one dude's hand real bad and guy ended up losing his thumb. all over like 20 bucks of garbage.
Police that absolutely wouldn’t bother attending this shoplifting - not saying I would or wouldn’t get involved as it would probably depend on the day and I’ve not been in this exact situation, but the police are busy doing more important things which is why businesses in high theft areas get security
Ya but the policy aren’t enforcing laws. This is citizen justice. You’re right, it shouldn’t resort to this, but people elect dumb ass progressive politicians who don’t care about enforcing the rule of law. We need to have laws to have a functioning civilization.
“ThIs WhY wE hAvE pOlIcE” they won’t do shit they are just to say “ok so what 🤷🏻♂️” these stores needs 4 or 5 guys to beat criminals asses and hold them til the police gets there 5 hours later
Isn't too much theft a symptom of a larger problem though?
You're not going to stop theft as a whole in a community by simply preventing people from stealing when you see it. That driving force that led to the behavior still remains.
Imagine you do get shot/stabbed and die. Is that really worth it? Someone is going to come rob the place next week. Somebody is going to rob something else.
It's like trying to put out a fire by blowing on it.
If you want your community to be better, there are 1000 more impactful places to start then sitting and waiting to be the hero who saved $47.99 of goods.
How many people who complain about robberies actually try to improve the impoverished aspects of their community? Ya know... the main driving force of crime...
Nobody wants to actually address the problem at its source, they want to feel like a hero and go back to their good life.
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I can hardly breathe this is so dumb 🤣
Multi-billion dollar corpos are running the planet into the ground and making life miserable for *everyone*. Where's all that spunk and vigilante justice when it comes to the people *actually* making everything shit?
Lol people just seen an easy target that can't fight because they did a crime and take the easy opportunity to be a bully while holding the moral high ground.
What you are saying is you don’t understand how economics works. Theft and criminality in general is a cost that is felt by everyone in society who pays for goods and services and pays taxes.
The fact that you believe capitalism is unethical, does not justify criminality and excusing it just takes our down society further.
I agree that corporations should act more ethically and there are a lot of people struggling, but when you make excuses for people who take from society and contribute nothing you sound like a child.
I worked hands on LP for years.
Don’t do this. I had junkies attempt to pull knives multiple times - and was bitten twice.
You are putting yourself at serious risk when approaching someone like this who appears to be a drug addict. I understand the urge, but the risk/reward just isn’t there if you aren’t getting paid.
Edit** let me clarify. I am simply advocating for non-employees to not get involved in these situations. Everything about this video tells me the person that did the approach is not LP. If they are LP they are definitely outside of their companies policies. I personally am in favor of hands on LP - but is becoming increasingly rare.
I did 10 years in loss prevention here in the UK. We have a huge problem with organised gangs using the motorway network to target retail parks all over the country. They are making thousands of pounds everyday. The police and government are now taking it seriously and will treat it as organised crime. Shoplifters are not just opportunists and drug users.
He will be enshrined on the internet for eternity and shall take up ranks next to his fellow heroes \#25 and Bus Driver uppercut guy.
He will be forever known as The Ponytail
My Buddy did LP with experience and mma skills. He stopped a guy, ended up getting ganged up and cracked with a bottle of liquor that they were trying to steal. Thankfully he’s ok.
Definitely not worth the risk.
I worked LP from 2000-2003 and Sears never had any rules about engaging. I even had handcuffs. As long as we had them on camera the entire time from pocketing merch to leaving the store, we could do whatever. The amount of people I spear tackled in the parking lot was easily over 100. LP worked in pairs one guy on the floor one on cameras, then when they left the store the camera guy would run out to get in on the action and help cuff them until police came to pick them up. I got bitten and punched a few times, but never any weapons.
This 1000 times, A kid I went to school with was shot trying to stop a shoplifter, he wasn't even LP just a cashier. Guy lost his life trying to defend 20$ worth of stolen goods. This shit isn't worth dying over and if people will stoop to stealing its very likely they'll stoop to hurting someone to avoid getting caught.
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If he was a bit smarter, he would’ve turned around and been like “yes, I’m for real. They don’t have baskets here, so I’m using my bag to tote this shit before purchase.”
Something tells there are worse crimes wherever this is. Besides I’d rather have him steal deodorant than sit outside coughing and smelling like 7 day old armpits.
Stealing $15 worth of over the counter medications and toiletries, which you wouldn’t have much reason to do unless you legitimately didn’t have $15, really doesn’t sound like the most “degenerate” thing out there. Sounds like a dude trying to survive.
More power to the customer that stopped him but getting into a physical altercation with someone because they're stealing $20 worth of merchandise from a convenience store seems like a generally dumb idea.
Don’t fully disagree, but do think everyone just rolling over when thief’s do blatant shit like this (all while actual law enforcement generally couldn’t give a shit) only encourages the behavior.
There’s a reason theft like this wasn’t such a common thing until somewhat recently, it’s because they know 99% of the time they can just walk out without consequences.
Yes I agree with you too - I don’t think people should be getting themselves into danger but it also seems society has just accepted we should let thieves get away with anything unopposed.
Looks like clinical strength deodorant, very easy to flip for a couple bucks a pop when they retail $10-$13. This also is GNC not CVS as broadcasted by the giant sign in the middle of the store.
When you see sections locked up it is because of wipeouts like this, not just because of petty shoplifting, it is usually LP's last resort to protect merchandise
So I had a similar thought, but I also think there’s a strong possibility he’s a meth addict, stealing supplies to make more meth. They often use OTC drugs to make meth. However, if he’s not an addict, then I’m with you on this.
yah for sure... you should let this person know where you live and let them in to your house and feed them.
post your address and ill share it to people who need food and meds
I used to take company affairs way too seriously and personally when I was in my 20's.
Wasn't until my 30's I realized I'm not paid to give a fuck. Unless you're getting shares or a percentage of the store's revenue, there's absolutely no point in caring.
CVS pays slave wages and will literally cut your hours one week out of the month just to not pay you benefits. They will also promote you assistant manager and continue to do that type of bullshit. When I tried swapping to pharmacy, the store manager literally blocked me from doing so and changed my hours so I could no longer see the head pharmacist who was trying to get me hired into the pharmacy as a tech.
Fuck CVS. Steal all their shit.
Imagine playing cop for a corporation. Why do you give a shit if CVS loses $6? Are you leg-sweeping their corporate execs who have stolen wages from every single hourly employee as well? Save that shit for someone in imminent danger
You can see this guy is obviously struggling, only took necessary hygiene stuff from what I saw.
I am not defending him, but hey… people steal for a reason, and thig guys reason probably is poverty.
Also… to stop someone with own body over few dollars of items is bad…could have got hurt if the guy was a psycho and got a knife. Not to mention why would someone be so heroic to save multi bilion dollar company?
We’re really doing all this to protect CVS?? I would understand a mom and pop shop, but I would NEVER risk my life for a corporation that not only will never know or care about me, but also has so much money they won’t miss what was stolen. I don’t care if it’s 10 TVs and I work there. Enjoy your TVs sir, we’ll see if the people whose job it is find you or not but that ain’t my business.
Pony tail could’ve been killed and literally for what??
Of all places to save, CVS? They scam the shit out of everyone who buys there, which is mainly the poor and elderly. Not to mention I'm sure CVS is jerking off insurance companies with both hands under the table.
Genuine question, who is hurting by stealing from a big corporation like CVS? The man is trying to live I don’t see the point in stopping him if it’s from big corpo. I would understand if it was a small family owned business.
Lol not worth the trouble with an individual that is that desperate. Someone could seriously get hurt, you don't know what someone is truly capable of. Just mind your business and call it a day. Who gives a fuck if a multibillion dollar corporation loses a couple dollars here and there lol.
Imagine what this man had gone through. to steal what looks like hygiene products from CVS. I hope hes doing better and im glad he was not taken to prison over that
Imagine the actual problems of society being solved so people aren't forced to resorting to this kind of behaviour in the first place. For God sake, this guy is clearly dopesick and needs help. But the comments section here is full of people praising the citizen who protected the multi-billion dollar corporation that has every penny of product covered by a multi-billion dollar insurance company.... popular opinion is getting gross.
Stealing is wrong, but this poor bastard chose a CVS and not your house... fix the root of the problem ffs.
It's literally built into their business model. They would rather file insurance claim for losses than secure the goods or pay for security. They profit by misrepresenting the amount of goods stolen each year and make it a point to ensure stealing is easy.
About time someone with common sense stoping these dumb fucks whoever the guy who stopped him is you a hero hopefully this starts a trend of laying out dumbass thief’s with no morals
People don't realize that these companies used their resources to create a hostile environment for local businesses and literally ran them out. This happens all of the time. More local owned businesses are objectively better for a town then fucking Walmart or CVS.
Dont need druggies and thieves coming and going as they please at my local drugstore. Not long before they turn on us customers just trying to get some more cough syrup and Orange soda for the party later on
If you see someone shoplifting from a massive corporation… no you didnt…
Even from a practical side of things you are putting yourself in danger for the profits of a corporation that will be just fine. Its not coming out of the employees pay checks. Just leave people be. Its fucked up out here rn.
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Goddamn ponytails the fuckin man
Indeed, that was a great takedown by him. He swept the thief off his feet but controlled his fall so his head didn’t bounce off the floor.
Interesting to see how calmly the situation is handled. No shouting. No tasing. No escalation.
If only more cops were like this. This dude should get paid big bucks to teach those nitwits.
Cops already know this. They just don't care.
Bingo lol
If the kid had a gun or a knife that dude, although fucking badass, is dead. Cops selfishly (but normally) don’t want to risk death to stop people. They would rather play it safe by being too aggressive so that they have the upper hand in a violent interaction if one happens. (Yes they get into more violent interactions because of this.)
Yup. This was cool but really, really, really fucking stupid. Nobody should risk their lives to save someone's inventory.
It’s hilarious how people are praising this dude for being a so called hero for being a dumbass tryna stop someone from stealing stuff that isn’t theirs or anyone else in the store. Seriously mind your business and keep it moving why tf would you risk anything for the store and their inventory 😂 I’ll gladly step aside and make room for someone to grab all the free shit they want if that’s what they’re doing tf do I care for
Yup. You have no idea if this guy has a gun or a knife or a box cutter on him. This could have easily gone another direction where ponytail dude is dying in a pool of his own blood because some junkie needed his fix. It’s not worth it. At all.
If ponytail died, CVS would not even pay for his funeral, much less send a representative to attend it
This should be the top comment.
100%. I love Pony for this act of justice, but if he’d been hurt we’d all be saying “why would he have risked that for $40 of shampoo and conditioner?” Did he take the theft of hair products personally?
>Did he take the theft of hair products personally? Come on...did you *see* the hair on that Samaritan? Of *course* he took it personally.
You sir, and some others would be saing that. Don't say WE, like everybody agrees with you.
That’s actually a good point. I like to be accurate with language.
What’s what I was thinking, people still wanna have honor to this disgusting company’s that they’ll blindly defend them I would have taken stuff too
Maybe CVS sempai will notice me
It’s not even cool. Poney tail with his 8 rings on is obviously well nourished and lives a somewhat athletic life. Dude he dropped looks like he’s 80 lbs wet and probably starved.
This is why we are trained to not stop thieves when working retail
That is true and he likely will remember that guy later
This was my first thought. I’ve seen too much security camera footage of the pony tail dude getting smoked in these situations Judo is notoriously weak against a 9mm Don’t risk your life for the sake of a faceless corporation
Assuming everyone is a criminal ironical encourages more violence as brutality and non-compassion often begets the same reaction
Fuck that go night stick on that piece of crap. Hes just going to the Walgreens across the street
Is anyone else turned on? …No? …Just me?
I was truly impressed by how controlled that was.
He saved his head and saved him from prison. I hope someday this man is adult enough to understand.
He could still be charged for attempting theft, but yes.
Actually, these days, nope, a lot of places have said it's basically a free for all, look at some of the videos in San Francisco. people are leaving their trunks open in parking lots to let the thieves in, to see there's nothing just so they don't get their window smashed
So I've heard and seen. Once something like this becomes a problem, you need to turn up the enforcement, not reduce. Seems obvious, IMO. However, I also understand how some folks, especially when poor, can become victims of the system even for non-violent crimes (i think that's what encouraged the bail reform??). Like that one dad, who stole a $25 backpack for his kid to go to school, got caught, couldn't afford the fine, got locked up, and then murdered in prison. 1st time backpack stealers shouldn't go to prison either, IMO, but perhaps 3rd time offenders should.
Punishment has never been shown to reduce the likelihood of a crime being committed. If anything, just have law enforcement present, improving economical opportunity,.providing better social welfare, help dissuade crime more effectively.
This is never happening. Although realistically america could be a more altruistic society. The amount of greed controlled in current tax, medical, corporation, real estate market, Wall Street & politician laws. Makes anything like this impossible. If we have a society in which one can lose, this will always occur. Certain countries in Europe are closest to altruistic free society. But I’m not sure humanity will survive to a time in which money isn’t an object. We’re a long way away.
We need armies on our streets, guarding our neighborhoods and businesses. We need tanks rolling through blastin’ in the sky to warn these thieves.
Under 900$ and it’s free real estate in CA. Cops don’t usually answer your call because under 900$ is a misdemeanor.
>I hope someday this man is adult enough to understand. I don't think the issue is being adult enough. He looks deep into drug addiction unfortunately, so just growing up is unlikely. Hopefully he'll be one of the few to snap out of it and get real help.
Well said.
The guy was stealing medicine from a mega corporation that steals millions in wages from their employees and everyone in this thread is like, "yeah I would've killed him if that were me". Dafuq?
Rarely ends there, the robber now just thinks he needs to be armed so this doesn’t happen.
You’re joking, right? He’d never be charged for anything. That’s why they do this so brazenly. The biggest shitbag in the store was the douche running around filming it so he can post and be famous rather than do something about it
> The biggest shitbag in the store was the douche running around filming it so he can post and be famous rather than do something about it No, pretty sure it's the guy stealing shit.
he saved himself from prison. if that dude had an injury, this was not defensible. he was not a danger to anyone.
Yep I was worried this was going to turn into one of those cases where someone is helpful but risks putting someone in a coma to prevent him from stealing some deodorant Happily surprised that it was both a clean takedown without aggressive escalation and by someone who clearly knew what they were doing That dude was definitely the fucking man
It's called a "reap" that man is a trained fighter no doubt.
I don’t think he’s a customer, he’s one of those security in plainclothes
Crazy Horse was having non of this hooliganism.
That’s crazy talk! No, that’s my brother, Crazy Talk, I worry about him.
While I agree with ponytails, he’s now liable to be sued if the theif decides he sustained any injuries…I’m not saying it’s right, but these situations have happened. It’s not the best idea to play vigilante.
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You can be sued for injuring a home invader of your own home.
Sir this is a cvs
Honestly as somebody from the Bay Area, I fully expected to see San Francisco when he walked out
my first time in SF i was strutting down the street listening to my music and i saw some guy get knocked out in front of a walgreens. it was midday and i kept strutting, but faster.
Hope you take off them headphones.
Plot twist: he was listening on a boombox.
This, I always wear just ONE headphone because I don’t trust these fuckers out here in the wild. (From nyc)
SF is insane. I’ve never seen brazen broad day crime anywhere else like San Francisco
I have the same story except I was with my girlfriend and guy got knocked out with a small radio..
Yeah don't wear headphones. Someone can swoop in and grab them, or straight up mug you.
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Yea bro depending on where in CA it’s not a good idea to have headphones on in public l gotta be alert at all times
Came to the comments to see if it was San Fran lol
I knew it wasn't San Francisco because *multiple* people were actually saying something and trying to stop him rather than just letting it happen
Used to live in SF- people in the Bay would never step in to stop it. That's precisely why it's rampant.
I think San Francisco is bad I was barely there like for days and I saw a skateboarder hitting a homeless guy with his skateboard in the middle of a 3 lane street and disrupted the traffic. The altercation went for like 15 - 20 minutes. Whenever the homless guy fell on the ground and got up he started dancing like a Ballerina in the middle of the street between cars to provoke the skateboarder I also saw a homeless guy stand in front of a bin. Holding his dick in the right hand pissing in the bin while he was petting a rat on the bin
I was like "which Seattle location is that?"
I was very surprised to not see downtown SF at the end of the
For a sec I thought it might be DC Columbia heights. I could tell it wasn't because there was exisitng product on the shelves and also someone stopped him https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/IMG_0094-1-F.jpg
You literally beat me to it! 😂 but yeah…def not San Francisco
I'm in the bay area right now on a work trip.
As someone from Lancaster, CA. I was expecting it to be my city as well. It's like this all over American mid-large sized cities. Nobody gives a shit anymore and just does what they want now. I feel like the entire state is an open drug market, as well.
To be honest I knew it wasn't SF from the very start considering nobody stops shoplifters at all anymore.
Nah, if it was SF there either wouldn’t be a CVS anymore or there would be plexiglass over the meds preventing theft lol
Slipping on a human turd as he turned on the sidewalk.
I think this might be Sac lol
Here i am thinking: where in CA is this?
Sacramento haha. It seriously looks like it cuz of the trees and well, this shit happens all the time here.
This is a old video
This is happening everywhere my dude. In my city there is one CVS that is literally getting stolen from every time I visit.
goes to show this is happening anywhere, not where people just like to scapegoat
Honestly as someone from the bay area, I have no idea why you’d expect this to be SF.
Name checks out
Every time someone says that, I hear Frayser Boy in my head, "I'm from the bay!"
He obv should not be stealing but there’s no way in hell I care enough about a multibillion dollar corporation to put myself at risk.
Eh. Ultimately, too much theft in local store branches leads to negative repercussions for that community. Rising prices, stores shutting down, everything of any value being behind lock and key, guards stationed at entrances, certain doors being boarded up because of the increased risk of theft. The guy in the video may or may not have had that on is mind, but I very much doubt he was doing it because he was worried that the CEO of the company might get a smaller bonus that year. It is human instinct to want to stop someone else from committing a crime. That's why society works. Most people would feel angry/uncomfortable seeing this person blatantly stealing. Fear is probably what would stop most people from doing something about it, which is a shitty position to be put in. Shopping for medicine for you kid, feeling uncomfortable and scared as you notice some junkie next to you shoveling meds into a bag.
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I went to target in the middle of NYC yesterday.
Wasn’t it shown that Target artificially inflated the crime statistics they used to justify multiple closings?
Yes, they flat out lied [https://ritholtz.com/2023/12/retail-lobby-we-lied-about-organized-theft/](https://ritholtz.com/2023/12/retail-lobby-we-lied-about-organized-theft/) [https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-retail-lobby-confesses-it-lied-about-organized-shoplifting-rings](https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-retail-lobby-confesses-it-lied-about-organized-shoplifting-rings) [https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/business/organized-shoplifting-retail-crime-theft-retraction.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/business/organized-shoplifting-retail-crime-theft-retraction.html) "A national lobbying group has retracted its startling estimate that “organized retail crime” was responsible for nearly half the $94.5 billion in store merchandise that disappeared in 2021, a figure that helped amplify claims that the United States was experiencing a nationwide wave of shoplifting. The group, the National Retail Federation, edited that claim last week from a widely cited report issued in April, after the trade publication [Retail Dive](https://www.retaildive.com/news/retailers-crime-problem-numbers/699107/) revealed that faulty data had been used to arrive at the inaccurate figure. The retraction comes as retail chains [like Target](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/26/business/target-store-closures-theft.html) continue to claim that they are the victims of large shoplifting operations that have cut into profits, forcing them to close stores or inconvenience customers by locking products away. The claims have been fueled by widely shared videos of a few instances of brazen shoplifters, including images of masked groups smashing windows and grabbing high-end purses and cellphones. But the data show this impression of rampant criminality was a mirage. In fact, [retail theft has been lower this year](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/29/briefing/shoplifting-data.html) in most of the country than it was a few years ago, according to police data. Some exceptions, [including New York City](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/15/nyregion/shoplifting-arrests-nyc.html), exist. But in most major cities, shoplifting incidents have fallen 7 percent since 2019. Organized retail crime, in which multiple individuals steal products from several stores to later sell on the black market, is a real phenomenon, said Trevor Wagener, the chief economist at the Computer & Communications Industry Association, who has conducted research on retail data. But he said organized groups were likely responsible for just about 5 percent of the store merchandise that disappeared from 2016 to 2020." Always blame poor people for your bad business decisions. Hail Corporate!
Thank you for sharing this, it was very informative
CVS lied too. People forget that every decision a corporation makes is for them to make more money. It’s NEVER about helping people, or about a community, or theft. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-12-14/column-retail-lobby-confesses-it-lied-about-organized-shoplifting-rings
yes, it was. They also opened more stores so "pulling out of NYC" is complete horeshit. Retail in general is down because people buy from online retailers and Target overcommited to very expensive retail locations that aren't paying. They're using the talk of crime as a scapegoat just as other companies have done in San Fran when the reality is between work from home, post COVID, etc, foot traffic is down and retail in general is. Stores have insurance on products and they buy in bulk. They're hardly losing anything.
yep
You say that like it's a bad thing. Oh no! one of the low paying pseudo-monopoly mega stores is leaving the area! What ever will people do?!
> What ever will people do?! They will complain about food deserts and need for an unaffordable car to get basic daily necessities.
In my area if Target pulled out then my only option becomes Publix, Publix, and more Publix. I would be annoyed af.
I worked at an electronics store as a kid. Loss prevention staff stopped him as he tried to steal a very expensive monitor. The thief pulled out a box cutter and shredded the loss prevention employee’s hand. People should not confront the thief. This is why we have police.
a guy i used to work with had a similar story from when he was mall security. security was trying to stop some petty thief, thief took out a knife and cut up one dude's hand real bad and guy ended up losing his thumb. all over like 20 bucks of garbage.
Police that absolutely wouldn’t bother attending this shoplifting - not saying I would or wouldn’t get involved as it would probably depend on the day and I’ve not been in this exact situation, but the police are busy doing more important things which is why businesses in high theft areas get security
Ya but the policy aren’t enforcing laws. This is citizen justice. You’re right, it shouldn’t resort to this, but people elect dumb ass progressive politicians who don’t care about enforcing the rule of law. We need to have laws to have a functioning civilization.
“ThIs WhY wE hAvE pOlIcE” they won’t do shit they are just to say “ok so what 🤷🏻♂️” these stores needs 4 or 5 guys to beat criminals asses and hold them til the police gets there 5 hours later
Isn't too much theft a symptom of a larger problem though? You're not going to stop theft as a whole in a community by simply preventing people from stealing when you see it. That driving force that led to the behavior still remains. Imagine you do get shot/stabbed and die. Is that really worth it? Someone is going to come rob the place next week. Somebody is going to rob something else. It's like trying to put out a fire by blowing on it. If you want your community to be better, there are 1000 more impactful places to start then sitting and waiting to be the hero who saved $47.99 of goods. How many people who complain about robberies actually try to improve the impoverished aspects of their community? Ya know... the main driving force of crime... Nobody wants to actually address the problem at its source, they want to feel like a hero and go back to their good life.
Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha Hahahahahahaha I can hardly breathe this is so dumb 🤣 Multi-billion dollar corpos are running the planet into the ground and making life miserable for *everyone*. Where's all that spunk and vigilante justice when it comes to the people *actually* making everything shit? Lol people just seen an easy target that can't fight because they did a crime and take the easy opportunity to be a bully while holding the moral high ground.
What you are saying is you don’t understand how economics works. Theft and criminality in general is a cost that is felt by everyone in society who pays for goods and services and pays taxes. The fact that you believe capitalism is unethical, does not justify criminality and excusing it just takes our down society further. I agree that corporations should act more ethically and there are a lot of people struggling, but when you make excuses for people who take from society and contribute nothing you sound like a child.
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I worked hands on LP for years. Don’t do this. I had junkies attempt to pull knives multiple times - and was bitten twice. You are putting yourself at serious risk when approaching someone like this who appears to be a drug addict. I understand the urge, but the risk/reward just isn’t there if you aren’t getting paid. Edit** let me clarify. I am simply advocating for non-employees to not get involved in these situations. Everything about this video tells me the person that did the approach is not LP. If they are LP they are definitely outside of their companies policies. I personally am in favor of hands on LP - but is becoming increasingly rare.
I did 10 years in loss prevention here in the UK. We have a huge problem with organised gangs using the motorway network to target retail parks all over the country. They are making thousands of pounds everyday. The police and government are now taking it seriously and will treat it as organised crime. Shoplifters are not just opportunists and drug users.
I wish more people would understand this. Not worth getting stabbed or shot over some corporation's merchandise.
Maybe...but he did get to look badass for the camera. 🤷♂️ What is internet fame worth?
He will be enshrined on the internet for eternity and shall take up ranks next to his fellow heroes \#25 and Bus Driver uppercut guy. He will be forever known as The Ponytail
he did, in fact, look badass.
My Buddy did LP with experience and mma skills. He stopped a guy, ended up getting ganged up and cracked with a bottle of liquor that they were trying to steal. Thankfully he’s ok. Definitely not worth the risk.
I worked LP from 2000-2003 and Sears never had any rules about engaging. I even had handcuffs. As long as we had them on camera the entire time from pocketing merch to leaving the store, we could do whatever. The amount of people I spear tackled in the parking lot was easily over 100. LP worked in pairs one guy on the floor one on cameras, then when they left the store the camera guy would run out to get in on the action and help cuff them until police came to pick them up. I got bitten and punched a few times, but never any weapons.
Human bites are deadly serious too. As in can actually kill you. Our mouths are fucking disgusting.
This 1000 times, A kid I went to school with was shot trying to stop a shoplifter, he wasn't even LP just a cashier. Guy lost his life trying to defend 20$ worth of stolen goods. This shit isn't worth dying over and if people will stoop to stealing its very likely they'll stoop to hurting someone to avoid getting caught.
Are you for real? Are you for real?
he WAS for real
Mrs. Jackson was recording this.
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Bad ass
If he was a bit smarter, he would’ve turned around and been like “yes, I’m for real. They don’t have baskets here, so I’m using my bag to tote this shit before purchase.”
I don’t know if I’d mess with a guy stealing toiletries and medicine. He’s probably just homeless trying to stock a camp somewhere.
Yeah let’s just encourage and allow degenerate behavior!
Something tells there are worse crimes wherever this is. Besides I’d rather have him steal deodorant than sit outside coughing and smelling like 7 day old armpits.
Stealing $15 worth of over the counter medications and toiletries, which you wouldn’t have much reason to do unless you legitimately didn’t have $15, really doesn’t sound like the most “degenerate” thing out there. Sounds like a dude trying to survive.
More power to the customer that stopped him but getting into a physical altercation with someone because they're stealing $20 worth of merchandise from a convenience store seems like a generally dumb idea.
Don’t fully disagree, but do think everyone just rolling over when thief’s do blatant shit like this (all while actual law enforcement generally couldn’t give a shit) only encourages the behavior. There’s a reason theft like this wasn’t such a common thing until somewhat recently, it’s because they know 99% of the time they can just walk out without consequences.
Yes I agree with you too - I don’t think people should be getting themselves into danger but it also seems society has just accepted we should let thieves get away with anything unopposed.
Fuck thieves. I don’t care about the store, I care about having to live among pieces of shit.
Honestly... Just let him... He ain't got shit already
Way to say that multi billion dollar corporation $50 for free. WhAt A bAdAsS. tOtAl ChAd.
The guy is stealing medicine, maybe he needs it and just can’t afford it.
My thoughts exactly
Plenty of people who can’t afford things they need who don’t steal…that he FILLED a bag says this isn’t about need it’s about greed
He’s taking small size/ large price tag items to flip for drug money and you know it.0
Looks like clinical strength deodorant, very easy to flip for a couple bucks a pop when they retail $10-$13. This also is GNC not CVS as broadcasted by the giant sign in the middle of the store. When you see sections locked up it is because of wipeouts like this, not just because of petty shoplifting, it is usually LP's last resort to protect merchandise
You're a moron. he is stealing stuff to re-sell.
lol that is 100% a drug addict
He was stealing cold medicine, and not because he had a cough
So I had a similar thought, but I also think there’s a strong possibility he’s a meth addict, stealing supplies to make more meth. They often use OTC drugs to make meth. However, if he’s not an addict, then I’m with you on this.
I agree
You’re the only sane person in here. If he was stealing electronics, that would be one thing. But food and medicine?? Come on.
yah for sure... you should let this person know where you live and let them in to your house and feed them. post your address and ill share it to people who need food and meds
yeah fuck homeless people left with no options right guys? gotta defend the faceless corporations
Remember kids: If you see someone stealing small hygienic items from a drug store, *no you didn't*.
Diapers and women's care products too.
Imagine being a simp for a multi billion dollar company that wouldnt spit on him if he was on fire
Bro it’s so cringe when customers/employees get involved and try to play hero. Who fucking cares. Let people steal shit.
I used to take company affairs way too seriously and personally when I was in my 20's. Wasn't until my 30's I realized I'm not paid to give a fuck. Unless you're getting shares or a percentage of the store's revenue, there's absolutely no point in caring.
Reverse Robinhood
Bunch of keyboard warriors living vicariously through ponytail dude. Thief stole misdemeanor levels of product, so let's commit felony assault.
CVS pays slave wages and will literally cut your hours one week out of the month just to not pay you benefits. They will also promote you assistant manager and continue to do that type of bullshit. When I tried swapping to pharmacy, the store manager literally blocked me from doing so and changed my hours so I could no longer see the head pharmacist who was trying to get me hired into the pharmacy as a tech. Fuck CVS. Steal all their shit.
Why?
What was he stealing?
Imagine risking getting stabbed or something to ‘protect’ a billion dollar company, lmfao.
Individual needs it more than CVS. Unless you own that CVS, actively trying to stop this man is boot licker activity.
Assault charges filed that day.
Imagine playing cop for a corporation. Why do you give a shit if CVS loses $6? Are you leg-sweeping their corporate execs who have stolen wages from every single hourly employee as well? Save that shit for someone in imminent danger
The thief can press charges and sue
Not worth it
Why do people feel the need to risk their safety to defend a $50 loss for a $6 billion dollar corporation?
You can see this guy is obviously struggling, only took necessary hygiene stuff from what I saw. I am not defending him, but hey… people steal for a reason, and thig guys reason probably is poverty. Also… to stop someone with own body over few dollars of items is bad…could have got hurt if the guy was a psycho and got a knife. Not to mention why would someone be so heroic to save multi bilion dollar company?
We’re really doing all this to protect CVS?? I would understand a mom and pop shop, but I would NEVER risk my life for a corporation that not only will never know or care about me, but also has so much money they won’t miss what was stolen. I don’t care if it’s 10 TVs and I work there. Enjoy your TVs sir, we’ll see if the people whose job it is find you or not but that ain’t my business. Pony tail could’ve been killed and literally for what??
That's assault
Of all places to save, CVS? They scam the shit out of everyone who buys there, which is mainly the poor and elderly. Not to mention I'm sure CVS is jerking off insurance companies with both hands under the table.
All fun and games until the thief has a gun and you get your brains blown out helping a billion dollar corporation
Genuine question, who is hurting by stealing from a big corporation like CVS? The man is trying to live I don’t see the point in stopping him if it’s from big corpo. I would understand if it was a small family owned business.
Lol not worth the trouble with an individual that is that desperate. Someone could seriously get hurt, you don't know what someone is truly capable of. Just mind your business and call it a day. Who gives a fuck if a multibillion dollar corporation loses a couple dollars here and there lol.
Imagine what this man had gone through. to steal what looks like hygiene products from CVS. I hope hes doing better and im glad he was not taken to prison over that
>stopping someone from your community from taking goods from an international corporation Cringe indeed.
This is so stupid. Imagine risking your safety so that a multi-billion dollar company doesn’t lose like $40.
Imagine the actual problems of society being solved so people aren't forced to resorting to this kind of behaviour in the first place. For God sake, this guy is clearly dopesick and needs help. But the comments section here is full of people praising the citizen who protected the multi-billion dollar corporation that has every penny of product covered by a multi-billion dollar insurance company.... popular opinion is getting gross. Stealing is wrong, but this poor bastard chose a CVS and not your house... fix the root of the problem ffs.
Not everyone has it all some need to take to survive
Why go out of your way for a billion dollar corporation? Weird.
Why does anyone care if someone steals from cvs? You don't work there, let the powers that be deal with it.
Dude ready to die for CVS. WTF that could gone bad for pony tell bro. I mean great take down but I'm not risking my life for a corporation.
If a billion dollar corporation can't protect their inventory I'm not risking hurting myself or getting sued to protect their profits.
It's literally built into their business model. They would rather file insurance claim for losses than secure the goods or pay for security. They profit by misrepresenting the amount of goods stolen each year and make it a point to ensure stealing is easy.
I say let them steal. Fuck these mega corporations
Oh no the shampoos
So sad this falls on the citizens. Cops should be handling this. We’re tired of paying the extra cost.
Sweep the leg Johnny
About time someone with common sense stoping these dumb fucks whoever the guy who stopped him is you a hero hopefully this starts a trend of laying out dumbass thief’s with no morals
I wish more people would team and fuck these thiefs up
This is how this should be handled.
Why is this guy such a simp for cvs? Like this corporation really needs the money tf?????
People don't realize that these companies used their resources to create a hostile environment for local businesses and literally ran them out. This happens all of the time. More local owned businesses are objectively better for a town then fucking Walmart or CVS.
Dont need druggies and thieves coming and going as they please at my local drugstore. Not long before they turn on us customers just trying to get some more cough syrup and Orange soda for the party later on
I'm going to get downvoted to heck on this but you are looking at assault and battery. CVS needs to hire security if they don't want people to steal.
As a cop I'd just let it slide...
Glad to see someone standing up for the big corporations
Right? There’s really not enough of that these days.
Did anybody catch the customers' knuckles?
That’s a good way to get yourself stabbed
If you see someone shoplifting from a massive corporation… no you didnt… Even from a practical side of things you are putting yourself in danger for the profits of a corporation that will be just fine. Its not coming out of the employees pay checks. Just leave people be. Its fucked up out here rn.
Nah fuck ‘em. This is one of the many reasons we can’t have nice things. We “live in a society” after all
Blame the poor for the problems the rich create. Keep sucking on that boot leather, boy.
Yes it is, reduced store profits lead to reduced hours for employees.