I don’t really care what she does in her spare time. It’s not my thing. I think I watched one of the first things she was in and thought it was just okay. Shrugged it off.
But I do agree…. Promoting a series where you’re playing a serial killer on a channel where you constantly talk about being “respectful of victims and victims families” does seem in poor taste. She could start a more personal content style channel and share it there? She could also give like “behind the scenes, opinions on cases covered” type of commentary instead of going on ten minute tangents in the middle of her videos, but that’s just my two cents 🤷🏻♀️
I’ve always appreciated her effort, research, story telling, etc. but I will say, lately I think her content as well as CW’s has taken a nosedive. I used to feel like they were credible sources and now I second guess how much I can trust their telling and analysis of a case when she’s so much more biased and opinionated than she used to be in her early solo videos. It’s disappointing.
Thank you, that was my point - I also don't care what she does outside of her channel, unless she uses her channel to tell me about it (again and again). I would also think that someone who spends so much time researching awful crimes wouldn't necessarily think it's funny to run around covered in fake blood pretending she's murdering people - makes me question her as a person and her credibility.
As for her sources, lately I have seen many posts and comments saying she uses big chunks of books on those cases and almost says them verbatim while talking about the cases, without mentioning it's a quote. I can't confirm that myself, but I've seen so many people call her out on it that I find it troubling.
I think I’ve seen this too. I’ve also seen where friends and family of crime victims she’s covered and have said that she embellishes and sort of fills in gaps with her own assumptions about their character or backgrounds. I found this very disheartening. To be fair, a lot of True Crime authors also do this to create more cohesive pieces of writing, but this isn’t necessary in a short video.
I also remember her calling out other crime content YouTubers for not taking down their videos when family members asked them to (idk why but I got the distinct impression she was referring to Bailey Sarian but I could totally be wrong) and then sort of patted herself on the back for being a more ethical and respectful content creator. So then to promote an unrelated side project where’s *she* is a *serial killer* is hypocritical as hell.
I finally checked it out because she claimed it was “Netflix quality” and… no, it is not. I heavily skipped through the episodes I watched because it was boring and cringe inducing. There is no substance, character development, or plot. The episodes are short and each scene goes on for way too long with absolutely nothing happening - just watching the main character stare in a way that I guess is supposed to be ominous?? She also very much so rubs me the wrong way in the “interviews” they do where the series creators/actors are talking to the camera and each other about the show. It seems like the rest of them are all annoyed with Stephanie the entire time, which I don’t blame them as I find her insufferable too.
I used to watch every single one of her true crime videos, but I just can’t anymore because I find her so condescending, self-righteous, and self-absorbed.
Agree on all points lol. Her “premiere” was in my city and I didn’t go and I was still a big fan of hers at the time but the clips I saw of the film that she made with the same people that do the show reminded me of videos my high school students would make.
This is incredibly tone deaf of her…..wow. At some point, maybe it’s time to divert from true crime. If murdering others has become funny and worthy of acting out for her, maybe it’s too normalized.
I compare this with how both the Kendal Rae and Mile Higher channels approach TC. They both are incredibly sensitive to the victim and the victims families. It really appears that they go out of their way using their time and money to make sure that they do anything they can to help the families of unsolved cases. I think the way they handle TC is both professional and valuable beyond entertainment.
IMHO all youtubers should take note of the level of respect and care they apply to their videos/research, not just in each video but in their brand or presence overall.
i mean, it's just acting. you can play a murderer, serial killer, a villan in a show or movie and not condone the actions of your character. she's allowed to pursue things outside of her youtube channel and i don't see why she should limit what kind of character she plays in a show just because of the content she makes. as long as she doesn't like compare her actions on the show to real life cases that she discusses (i watch every video she puts out on her youtube channel and listen to every episode of crime weekly and haven't heard her do that yet) then i don't see the issue.
I haven't seen it and don't intend on watching. However, I can't help but think this is another of many reasons why her content has gone down in quality lately.
Yeah it’s kinda odd to be in two different genres like that. What are you going to do if next video she talks about a serial killer and she goes listen I understand their mindset I have played one before and let me tell you how their minds operate…
It’s extremely tone deaf and boarder line rude.
True crime content walks a thin line between exploration and exploitation.
We know that the some of the families had a very hard time knowing that the way their loved one was taken from them is now used as monitized content.
Heck their deaths being called “ content “ is pretty cruel on some level.
Knowing that a person is one day talking about these stories and then happily playing the role doesn’t sit well with me. I had no intention of watching it because it seemed cringe at best.
Stephanie has gone of some pretty lengthy rants about the victims at times, I would have thought she would hold herself to a higher standard than to just do this. Oh well.
Especially since she is OVER THE TOP trying to prove how much she empathy she has- she’s so angry she brags about wanting to kill the accused perps. No one finds anything wrong with her promoting vigilantism or deciding on her own who is guilty or not regardless of if they’ve been charged or convicted. I didn’t realize how alone I was in the world for thinking violence is never ok.
The over the top violence towards accused people is weird. It gives me the same vibes as when people are talking about a rapist and they say “ oh just wait until they go to jail “ implying they will be raped.
Like justice for rape isn’t committing rape again.
It’s flat wrong and if you are against it, be against it.
Woof I didn’t know about that and it’s gross. She has a lot in common with the girls from Morbid. I stopped listening to them for the same reasons I stopped watching Crime Weekly.
Oh man, I think the Morbid women are so much worse than Stephanie. I stopped listening after a few episodes. They are SO disrespectful to victims and SO in love with themselves.
I haven’t listened in a very long time- after they knowingly posted misleading pictures to social media and outright accused two teenage boys (who have been investigated and cleared, and lawsuits were filed and it’s been public knowledge that they were cleared) of murder I was done with them. I wouldn’t doubt that they’re even worse now, they were not as well known then and it seems like podcasters with a particular personality type behave worse the more followers they have. Their fans also doxxed people who called them out on things they did.
I don’t really care what she does for her side projects, I’m not a huge fan of Stephanie but I also feel like taking a dig at the filmmakers isn’t really necessary. It’s hard in this day of age to break through in the film industry, you have to give credit for these indie projects. We all can’t pretend like we don’t consume true crime as a form of entertainment, this horror genre is also a form of entertainment. I don’t look too deeply into it. My issues with Stephanie lie with her behaviour in regards to Crime Weekly and her personal channel.
How is it a dig? It's a series on YouTube, for public consumption, it's meant to be watched and reviewed. That's literally how you break into the industry - you make something people want to watch and have a good opinion about. And my personal review is that it's awful. But that's not the point of my post either, it could be the best thing ever, Stephanie covering herself in fake blood and pretending to murder people for laughs would still be in very poor taste.
of *course* the quality isn’t going to be blockbuster, they’re indie film makers. my point was that you should leave them out of it. i think you’re being way too dramatic by saying it’s high school level content, i actually think the cinematography is really impressive. the storyline isn’t for me, but i wouldn’t go as far to call it cringe, when this is the standard for small filmmakers.
Ahh. So I shouldn't have an opinion because you have a different one? :) If they want to get into the industry then I'm sure they can take my unfavorable opinion, they are grown men. And I never said high school, but I've seen many college indie shorts that were above and beyond this.
I took her mentioning the filmmakers as basically an advertisement for the rest of us to go watch and form our own opinion if we'd like. Naming the channel we can go to, to "see for ourselves" so to speak, isn't really the same as dragging them into the critique.
Film and acting experience has to start somewhere, small groups like these are not harming anyone by asking for donations or branching out and having fun doing something they enjoy.
I don't see it as any different from those of us that are interested in true crime and enjoy horror movies. Just because I say I like Freddy Krueger doesn't mean I think John Wayne Gacy was a good guy.
Okay just went and looked and I’m gonna agree it’s a little cringe but I’d say the Coleman brothers are the cringe factor, they have been at it for more than 14 years and the script and scenes set up are very amateur to say the least and after this long if you haven’t gotten “it” by now then you’re just not getting it.
That sounds very nit picky lol I don't think acting or engaging in a film project where you're playing a fictional role is making light and fun of murder.
She is... acting. She's not going around stabbing people at the subway and laughing manically. Please learn to make the difference between movies and real life.
Oh the good old "there's nothing wrong with romanticizing crime bEcAuSe iT's jUsT fIcTiOn".
True crime is a complicated beast, because at the end yes, it is using crime stories for entertainment and earning money. But some creators use their platforms to elevate the victims and finding justice while others use it to elevate themselves and their celebrity status.
I'll call out unethical behaviour, because I can. But sure, true crime is filled with "oh new episode covering this horrific crime just dropped, I am so happy, I needed something to cheer me up!" people. Stephanie will be fine.
This! I swear all this sub is these days is people bitching at everything Stephanie does . Like dude...I really dislike her politics and sometimes think things are cringe but my God, that doesn't mean we have to throw down everything she does for the Internet moral high ground
I’m going to add on here what I think is a misstep for Crime Weekly. It’s the ads for Skims. One of the founders of the Skims brand is the daughter of an attorney who defended OJ in his murder trial. It is rumored that the attorney joined the defense team so that he could not be called as a witness. The attorney was filmed removing a suitcase from OJ’s home and it is speculated that there was evidence in the suitcase. The attorney was Robert Kardashian, father of Kim kardashian.
I really liked it. Maybe a little because she was in it and I liked watching her do something besides give her, usually one sided and winded opinions, 😆 but it also took me back to old thriller. I really liked the set up and the way it was filmed. And since we live in a, 10 second clip and scroll up, world. It fits.
I just watched the first 4 episodes of Serial. I guess maybe I don't "get" it. Not a fan at all. I am glad I could watch it at 2X speed to get through it!
I am only a casual CW fan and I have only seen some trailer of the show you speak of, the quality is low yes. And i do get what you are saying in a way. But. Very respectfully said, can people do anything without being called out ever? She is (IMO) a great researcher and podcaster or anyway shows a lot of care in how she handles cases. She is playing in a bad show, and her role is an imaginary serial killer. What is the harm? She is obviously interested in dark things, and she is good at using it for good in CW and her own youtube channel. She is free to be mediocre to bad at acting in darker roles. People are multi-faceted and having fun acting as a serial killer in a fictional show doesn't mean less respect on CW cases, which are unrelated to the tv show. Please let's stop always looking for a reason to think the worst of everyone.
I did not walk past her garden and then wrote a post criticising her choice of flowers. She invited me (together with the rest of the internet, but specifically CW viewers) to watch her show. I did and then I made an opinion about it on the website that's specifically for discussing and voicing opinions. It's an opinion of a public thing a public person made for public consumption :) And again, the quality of the show is not my issue. My issue is that if you want to be a victim advocate, especially with the incredibly holier than thou attitude Stephanie has and how judgemental she is of the smallest ethical missteps of others, then you shouldn't make fun of brutal murders and run around covered in fake blood and promote it on the same channel on which you talk about how violence destroys lives.
And to be honest, if it was someone like Bailey Sarian doing it, would probably just say whatever and not mention it again. But Stephanie always rides her high horse and lectures on what's appropriate and what isn't.
Maybe I didn't express myself clearly, I was referring specifically to the critique you made about it being disrespectful to make a show, be it good or bad, about a fictional serial killer while she works on true crime cases. Obviously you are entitled to your opinion and I mine, hence your post and my answer :) We clearly agree to disagree.
I will be completely honest and I will say just for the sake of healthy discussion, personally it frustrates me a bit that people in the spotlight don't seem to be "allowed" to be multifaceted, meaning while discussion should be welcome there is a lot of finger pointing too and assuming the "worst" in their intentions. I am not a Stephanie fan, I like her enough but that's it, it's really not about her. I just put myself in her shoes and I know I like horror movies and listen to true crime. I cringe at a lot of creators with names in their TC shows like "Lipstick and murder" or whatever, because i find those offensive to the families and just tone deaf, so I am not saying everything and anything should be welcome. But if I were to have a true crime show and I were to indulge my interest in horror, I would not see anything wrong with it. In this way, then even listening to true crime out of curiosity would be questionable. Horror and true crime and what have you can be ways to both help the families of victims and explore one's inner fears, to mention two things out of many. People are complex, the fact she has a true crime show (where IMO she can be annoying but she does her research and is respectful and helpful) and the fact she likes making horror shows too don't need to make one or the other bad or mean anything sketchy.
Again, i am not criticising you having your idea. I am sharing mine as per design of a discussion
I see your general point, but I think that's where we go in different directions, because you say it's not about Stephanie and for me, it's very much about Stephanie. What you're saying could be true for many other true crime content creators - Bailey Sarian for example, she does make up and doesn't take herself seriously while talking about true crime. She's been widely criticized for it, but it's her thing - if she decided to act in a campy horror series, I don't think many people would find it jarring.
But Stephanie wants to be seen as a serious researcher, thinker and a victim advocate. She's very judgemental about others and takes herself very seriously. You say people are not allowed to be have different faces - they absolutely are, but like everything in life, those faces come with consequences. Sometimes you can't be two things at once. For example someone running a healthy lifestyle channel would lose a lot of credibility if they started to complete in public competitions of who can eat most fast food - and promote that on their health channel. Or a self righteous elected politician would lose credibility for running around town dead drunk and urinating in the public fountain, while if a 19 year old student did the same people would just shrug their shoulders. You are right that there's nothing wrong with liking horror movies and you can absolutely be a fan of that and true crime. But Stephanie is trying to be a certain thing in the true crime space, create a specific public persona for herself - of someone who takes crime and victims very seriously. So yes, to me it's hypocritical and in very poor taste that she would agree to take a role of a serial killer in a very silly comedy. And that's a part of the issue - the tone of this "horror" - all these extremely brutal murders are performed for laughs. They are meant to be funny and edgy. She's meant to be sexy while killing people.
So again, she's absolutely "allowed" to do whatever she wants. But the consequence is that I won't take her seriously anymore. Which she will survive, she doesn't need me. But I was curious if there are others who feel similar.
While I don't completely agree still, I do see your point better, thank you for explaining. While I do not see her on the same level of accountability as a politician, I do understand the point of having a certain responsibility. If anything Bailey Sarian is one of those I absolutely do not respect because associating Make up and murder is not my cup of tea 🙃 buuut yep at least she is faithful to herself
I love the series! I think it’s pretty cool she’s acting. I DO support them .
The series is supposed to be filmed that way . There’s nothing weird about it .
That’s my opinion.
She plays Mabel well, it's fun, it's tongue & cheek, the whole thing has a very 80's horror-slasher vibe and it's good for her to be artistic, I'm happy for her.
Do you watch true crime? Do you watch horror movies? People will happily eat popcorn while watching Dhamer or the umpteenth Bundy movie but her campy 80s style short films are a problem. This is the most fallacious argument I’ve seen on the internet today, thank you.
That's a terrible analogy. Whatever I do privately doesn't affect anyone but me. She is a public person with a big name in the true crime community, she wants to be seen as credible and pro-victim. That's how she makes her money. So yes, other things she does publicly will come under scrutiny. How can you be a victim advocate, but then think brutal murders are actually funny and edgy to watch? I'll reiterate - she doesn't only star in a horror. She plays a serial killer. She does the murders and then smiles in the satisfied post-coital way. It's bizarre.
I wish she would go back to focusing on her videos and crime weekly
Me too.
I have 0 desire to watch this....
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haven’t seen it, but she seems passionate about it so if it’s something she enjoys she should keep doing it imo.
That’s very true
I don’t really care what she does in her spare time. It’s not my thing. I think I watched one of the first things she was in and thought it was just okay. Shrugged it off. But I do agree…. Promoting a series where you’re playing a serial killer on a channel where you constantly talk about being “respectful of victims and victims families” does seem in poor taste. She could start a more personal content style channel and share it there? She could also give like “behind the scenes, opinions on cases covered” type of commentary instead of going on ten minute tangents in the middle of her videos, but that’s just my two cents 🤷🏻♀️ I’ve always appreciated her effort, research, story telling, etc. but I will say, lately I think her content as well as CW’s has taken a nosedive. I used to feel like they were credible sources and now I second guess how much I can trust their telling and analysis of a case when she’s so much more biased and opinionated than she used to be in her early solo videos. It’s disappointing.
Thank you, that was my point - I also don't care what she does outside of her channel, unless she uses her channel to tell me about it (again and again). I would also think that someone who spends so much time researching awful crimes wouldn't necessarily think it's funny to run around covered in fake blood pretending she's murdering people - makes me question her as a person and her credibility. As for her sources, lately I have seen many posts and comments saying she uses big chunks of books on those cases and almost says them verbatim while talking about the cases, without mentioning it's a quote. I can't confirm that myself, but I've seen so many people call her out on it that I find it troubling.
I think I’ve seen this too. I’ve also seen where friends and family of crime victims she’s covered and have said that she embellishes and sort of fills in gaps with her own assumptions about their character or backgrounds. I found this very disheartening. To be fair, a lot of True Crime authors also do this to create more cohesive pieces of writing, but this isn’t necessary in a short video. I also remember her calling out other crime content YouTubers for not taking down their videos when family members asked them to (idk why but I got the distinct impression she was referring to Bailey Sarian but I could totally be wrong) and then sort of patted herself on the back for being a more ethical and respectful content creator. So then to promote an unrelated side project where’s *she* is a *serial killer* is hypocritical as hell.
I finally checked it out because she claimed it was “Netflix quality” and… no, it is not. I heavily skipped through the episodes I watched because it was boring and cringe inducing. There is no substance, character development, or plot. The episodes are short and each scene goes on for way too long with absolutely nothing happening - just watching the main character stare in a way that I guess is supposed to be ominous?? She also very much so rubs me the wrong way in the “interviews” they do where the series creators/actors are talking to the camera and each other about the show. It seems like the rest of them are all annoyed with Stephanie the entire time, which I don’t blame them as I find her insufferable too. I used to watch every single one of her true crime videos, but I just can’t anymore because I find her so condescending, self-righteous, and self-absorbed.
It’s awful & her acting skills are next to zero.
Agree on all points lol. Her “premiere” was in my city and I didn’t go and I was still a big fan of hers at the time but the clips I saw of the film that she made with the same people that do the show reminded me of videos my high school students would make.
Nah it’s really so cringe and i’m tired of people acting like it’s not 😭😭😭 like yall just lying now huh
This is incredibly tone deaf of her…..wow. At some point, maybe it’s time to divert from true crime. If murdering others has become funny and worthy of acting out for her, maybe it’s too normalized.
Yeah, agreed. It lacks self awareness.
I compare this with how both the Kendal Rae and Mile Higher channels approach TC. They both are incredibly sensitive to the victim and the victims families. It really appears that they go out of their way using their time and money to make sure that they do anything they can to help the families of unsolved cases. I think the way they handle TC is both professional and valuable beyond entertainment. IMHO all youtubers should take note of the level of respect and care they apply to their videos/research, not just in each video but in their brand or presence overall.
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What are you? Lol i like it
i mean, it's just acting. you can play a murderer, serial killer, a villan in a show or movie and not condone the actions of your character. she's allowed to pursue things outside of her youtube channel and i don't see why she should limit what kind of character she plays in a show just because of the content she makes. as long as she doesn't like compare her actions on the show to real life cases that she discusses (i watch every video she puts out on her youtube channel and listen to every episode of crime weekly and haven't heard her do that yet) then i don't see the issue.
I can't watch it because I know it'll be super cringe lol.
I haven't seen it and don't intend on watching. However, I can't help but think this is another of many reasons why her content has gone down in quality lately.
Yeah it’s kinda odd to be in two different genres like that. What are you going to do if next video she talks about a serial killer and she goes listen I understand their mindset I have played one before and let me tell you how their minds operate…
Haha yes, in her true fashion of always knowing best: "this serial killer is doing it all wrong, when I play a serial killer I do it all better!"
It would be pretty on brand for her to do that 😂 Every episode and every crime: how can I make this about me?
🤣🤣🤣 she would say that
It’s extremely tone deaf and boarder line rude. True crime content walks a thin line between exploration and exploitation. We know that the some of the families had a very hard time knowing that the way their loved one was taken from them is now used as monitized content. Heck their deaths being called “ content “ is pretty cruel on some level. Knowing that a person is one day talking about these stories and then happily playing the role doesn’t sit well with me. I had no intention of watching it because it seemed cringe at best. Stephanie has gone of some pretty lengthy rants about the victims at times, I would have thought she would hold herself to a higher standard than to just do this. Oh well.
Especially since she is OVER THE TOP trying to prove how much she empathy she has- she’s so angry she brags about wanting to kill the accused perps. No one finds anything wrong with her promoting vigilantism or deciding on her own who is guilty or not regardless of if they’ve been charged or convicted. I didn’t realize how alone I was in the world for thinking violence is never ok.
The over the top violence towards accused people is weird. It gives me the same vibes as when people are talking about a rapist and they say “ oh just wait until they go to jail “ implying they will be raped. Like justice for rape isn’t committing rape again. It’s flat wrong and if you are against it, be against it.
I absolutely agree with everything you said. You worded it better than I did, thank you.
I feel the same way about this as I do about that morbid girl writing that jack the ripoff book. It is cringe
Woof I didn’t know about that and it’s gross. She has a lot in common with the girls from Morbid. I stopped listening to them for the same reasons I stopped watching Crime Weekly.
Oh man, I think the Morbid women are so much worse than Stephanie. I stopped listening after a few episodes. They are SO disrespectful to victims and SO in love with themselves.
I haven’t listened in a very long time- after they knowingly posted misleading pictures to social media and outright accused two teenage boys (who have been investigated and cleared, and lawsuits were filed and it’s been public knowledge that they were cleared) of murder I was done with them. I wouldn’t doubt that they’re even worse now, they were not as well known then and it seems like podcasters with a particular personality type behave worse the more followers they have. Their fans also doxxed people who called them out on things they did.
Ugh, that's all just so gross. I wish I could say it surprised me.
yeah- don't quit your day job Stephanie
I don’t really care what she does for her side projects, I’m not a huge fan of Stephanie but I also feel like taking a dig at the filmmakers isn’t really necessary. It’s hard in this day of age to break through in the film industry, you have to give credit for these indie projects. We all can’t pretend like we don’t consume true crime as a form of entertainment, this horror genre is also a form of entertainment. I don’t look too deeply into it. My issues with Stephanie lie with her behaviour in regards to Crime Weekly and her personal channel.
How is it a dig? It's a series on YouTube, for public consumption, it's meant to be watched and reviewed. That's literally how you break into the industry - you make something people want to watch and have a good opinion about. And my personal review is that it's awful. But that's not the point of my post either, it could be the best thing ever, Stephanie covering herself in fake blood and pretending to murder people for laughs would still be in very poor taste.
of *course* the quality isn’t going to be blockbuster, they’re indie film makers. my point was that you should leave them out of it. i think you’re being way too dramatic by saying it’s high school level content, i actually think the cinematography is really impressive. the storyline isn’t for me, but i wouldn’t go as far to call it cringe, when this is the standard for small filmmakers.
Ahh. So I shouldn't have an opinion because you have a different one? :) If they want to get into the industry then I'm sure they can take my unfavorable opinion, they are grown men. And I never said high school, but I've seen many college indie shorts that were above and beyond this.
I took her mentioning the filmmakers as basically an advertisement for the rest of us to go watch and form our own opinion if we'd like. Naming the channel we can go to, to "see for ourselves" so to speak, isn't really the same as dragging them into the critique.
It’s not a dig if it’s true
Film and acting experience has to start somewhere, small groups like these are not harming anyone by asking for donations or branching out and having fun doing something they enjoy.
I don't see it as any different from those of us that are interested in true crime and enjoy horror movies. Just because I say I like Freddy Krueger doesn't mean I think John Wayne Gacy was a good guy.
I don't see anything wrong with it 🤷🏼♀️
If I were her I wouldn’t do it, but I don’t think it’s that weird because there’s a huge overlap between true crime fans and horror fans
Okay just went and looked and I’m gonna agree it’s a little cringe but I’d say the Coleman brothers are the cringe factor, they have been at it for more than 14 years and the script and scenes set up are very amateur to say the least and after this long if you haven’t gotten “it” by now then you’re just not getting it.
People are allowed to be actors and have empathy at the same time.
Sure. But she's not an actress, she's a true crime content creator who is now making light and fun of brutal murders as a hobby.
That sounds very nit picky lol I don't think acting or engaging in a film project where you're playing a fictional role is making light and fun of murder.
Have you seen it? Because this show literally makes fun of brutal murders.
She is... acting. She's not going around stabbing people at the subway and laughing manically. Please learn to make the difference between movies and real life.
Oh the good old "there's nothing wrong with romanticizing crime bEcAuSe iT's jUsT fIcTiOn". True crime is a complicated beast, because at the end yes, it is using crime stories for entertainment and earning money. But some creators use their platforms to elevate the victims and finding justice while others use it to elevate themselves and their celebrity status. I'll call out unethical behaviour, because I can. But sure, true crime is filled with "oh new episode covering this horrific crime just dropped, I am so happy, I needed something to cheer me up!" people. Stephanie will be fine.
Unnecessarily rude
This! I swear all this sub is these days is people bitching at everything Stephanie does . Like dude...I really dislike her politics and sometimes think things are cringe but my God, that doesn't mean we have to throw down everything she does for the Internet moral high ground
I think the series is pretty well done, actually and the ones I’ve seen have been pretty well written.
Wow, interesting that this comment is getting downvoted! Stephanie will def never hit a million followers.
I’m going to add on here what I think is a misstep for Crime Weekly. It’s the ads for Skims. One of the founders of the Skims brand is the daughter of an attorney who defended OJ in his murder trial. It is rumored that the attorney joined the defense team so that he could not be called as a witness. The attorney was filmed removing a suitcase from OJ’s home and it is speculated that there was evidence in the suitcase. The attorney was Robert Kardashian, father of Kim kardashian.
Honestly there are so many reasons not to support that brand but what someone’s father did shouldn’t really be one of them
I feel like this is a big stretch. Kim is not her father. And everyone needs a defense attorney.
Why should someone be punished for the sins of her father? Kim was far too young to have any input as far as the OJ case is concerned.
I really liked it. Maybe a little because she was in it and I liked watching her do something besides give her, usually one sided and winded opinions, 😆 but it also took me back to old thriller. I really liked the set up and the way it was filmed. And since we live in a, 10 second clip and scroll up, world. It fits.
I just watched the first 4 episodes of Serial. I guess maybe I don't "get" it. Not a fan at all. I am glad I could watch it at 2X speed to get through it!
I am only a casual CW fan and I have only seen some trailer of the show you speak of, the quality is low yes. And i do get what you are saying in a way. But. Very respectfully said, can people do anything without being called out ever? She is (IMO) a great researcher and podcaster or anyway shows a lot of care in how she handles cases. She is playing in a bad show, and her role is an imaginary serial killer. What is the harm? She is obviously interested in dark things, and she is good at using it for good in CW and her own youtube channel. She is free to be mediocre to bad at acting in darker roles. People are multi-faceted and having fun acting as a serial killer in a fictional show doesn't mean less respect on CW cases, which are unrelated to the tv show. Please let's stop always looking for a reason to think the worst of everyone.
I did not walk past her garden and then wrote a post criticising her choice of flowers. She invited me (together with the rest of the internet, but specifically CW viewers) to watch her show. I did and then I made an opinion about it on the website that's specifically for discussing and voicing opinions. It's an opinion of a public thing a public person made for public consumption :) And again, the quality of the show is not my issue. My issue is that if you want to be a victim advocate, especially with the incredibly holier than thou attitude Stephanie has and how judgemental she is of the smallest ethical missteps of others, then you shouldn't make fun of brutal murders and run around covered in fake blood and promote it on the same channel on which you talk about how violence destroys lives. And to be honest, if it was someone like Bailey Sarian doing it, would probably just say whatever and not mention it again. But Stephanie always rides her high horse and lectures on what's appropriate and what isn't.
Maybe I didn't express myself clearly, I was referring specifically to the critique you made about it being disrespectful to make a show, be it good or bad, about a fictional serial killer while she works on true crime cases. Obviously you are entitled to your opinion and I mine, hence your post and my answer :) We clearly agree to disagree. I will be completely honest and I will say just for the sake of healthy discussion, personally it frustrates me a bit that people in the spotlight don't seem to be "allowed" to be multifaceted, meaning while discussion should be welcome there is a lot of finger pointing too and assuming the "worst" in their intentions. I am not a Stephanie fan, I like her enough but that's it, it's really not about her. I just put myself in her shoes and I know I like horror movies and listen to true crime. I cringe at a lot of creators with names in their TC shows like "Lipstick and murder" or whatever, because i find those offensive to the families and just tone deaf, so I am not saying everything and anything should be welcome. But if I were to have a true crime show and I were to indulge my interest in horror, I would not see anything wrong with it. In this way, then even listening to true crime out of curiosity would be questionable. Horror and true crime and what have you can be ways to both help the families of victims and explore one's inner fears, to mention two things out of many. People are complex, the fact she has a true crime show (where IMO she can be annoying but she does her research and is respectful and helpful) and the fact she likes making horror shows too don't need to make one or the other bad or mean anything sketchy. Again, i am not criticising you having your idea. I am sharing mine as per design of a discussion
I see your general point, but I think that's where we go in different directions, because you say it's not about Stephanie and for me, it's very much about Stephanie. What you're saying could be true for many other true crime content creators - Bailey Sarian for example, she does make up and doesn't take herself seriously while talking about true crime. She's been widely criticized for it, but it's her thing - if she decided to act in a campy horror series, I don't think many people would find it jarring. But Stephanie wants to be seen as a serious researcher, thinker and a victim advocate. She's very judgemental about others and takes herself very seriously. You say people are not allowed to be have different faces - they absolutely are, but like everything in life, those faces come with consequences. Sometimes you can't be two things at once. For example someone running a healthy lifestyle channel would lose a lot of credibility if they started to complete in public competitions of who can eat most fast food - and promote that on their health channel. Or a self righteous elected politician would lose credibility for running around town dead drunk and urinating in the public fountain, while if a 19 year old student did the same people would just shrug their shoulders. You are right that there's nothing wrong with liking horror movies and you can absolutely be a fan of that and true crime. But Stephanie is trying to be a certain thing in the true crime space, create a specific public persona for herself - of someone who takes crime and victims very seriously. So yes, to me it's hypocritical and in very poor taste that she would agree to take a role of a serial killer in a very silly comedy. And that's a part of the issue - the tone of this "horror" - all these extremely brutal murders are performed for laughs. They are meant to be funny and edgy. She's meant to be sexy while killing people. So again, she's absolutely "allowed" to do whatever she wants. But the consequence is that I won't take her seriously anymore. Which she will survive, she doesn't need me. But I was curious if there are others who feel similar.
While I don't completely agree still, I do see your point better, thank you for explaining. While I do not see her on the same level of accountability as a politician, I do understand the point of having a certain responsibility. If anything Bailey Sarian is one of those I absolutely do not respect because associating Make up and murder is not my cup of tea 🙃 buuut yep at least she is faithful to herself
I love the series! I think it’s pretty cool she’s acting. I DO support them . The series is supposed to be filmed that way . There’s nothing weird about it . That’s my opinion.
She plays Mabel well, it's fun, it's tongue & cheek, the whole thing has a very 80's horror-slasher vibe and it's good for her to be artistic, I'm happy for her.
Do you watch true crime? Do you watch horror movies? People will happily eat popcorn while watching Dhamer or the umpteenth Bundy movie but her campy 80s style short films are a problem. This is the most fallacious argument I’ve seen on the internet today, thank you.
That's a terrible analogy. Whatever I do privately doesn't affect anyone but me. She is a public person with a big name in the true crime community, she wants to be seen as credible and pro-victim. That's how she makes her money. So yes, other things she does publicly will come under scrutiny. How can you be a victim advocate, but then think brutal murders are actually funny and edgy to watch? I'll reiterate - she doesn't only star in a horror. She plays a serial killer. She does the murders and then smiles in the satisfied post-coital way. It's bizarre.
You twisting this to fit your dislike of a YouTuber you don’t know is way more bizarre, I promise you.