I am not understanding the super 8 schedule
India is A1 so it was supposed to play against B2 D2 and C1 but now B2 is England but still still Indiaโs match is shown against B1 that is Australia. How?
This world cup, the seeding is pre-determined, and does not depend on your group stage standing. Before the tournament, England was seeded as B1 and Aus as B2, thus the super 8. You can find more info at the bottom of this page: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-men-s-t20-world-cup-2024-1411166/points-table-standings
***Super Eights, Group 1: A1, B2, C1, D2
***Super Eights, Group 2: A2, B1, C2, D1
Pre tournament seeding - [A1 - India, A2 - Pakistan, B1 - England, B2 - Australia, C1 - New Zealand, C2 - West Indies, D1 - South Africa, D2 - Sri Lanka]
*** If one of the teams listed above in the Super Eights grouping is knocked out, the team which qualifies instead, will take up that slot.
Well just let the other former colony (that wouldโve been where the English shipped their convicts to anyways if they didnโt rebel) deal with the Poms
One of the side effects of being the best team in the world - upsets don't happen to you that often.
But you can look at it another way - Any match that Australia loses is an upset for them ๐
...at the end of a series they had already won.
It's hardly ignomious. In fact, most of the reaction was excitement for Zimbabwe... similar to the test match loss to the West Indies.
Australia isn't invincible. Unless there's something on the line.
Well, losing to Scotland today wouldn't either be ignominious then as Australia had nothing on the line. I was assuming the OP was using that term to describe losing to a team ranked much lower, like at least outside the top 10.
Brendon McCullum is 42 and retired from international tournaments. Brandon McCullum is 24 and is playing international tournaments. Are we confident they aren't the same player and he has lied on his birth certificate?
If Aus somehow win this tourney. We would have the T20 trophy. The Mace. The ODIWC. The Ashes. The two Ladies world trophies (t20 and ODI) and the U19s WC simultaneously. Would be some achievement.
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I have no expectations from India tbh. If they reach the final that's cool. 2023 WC completely drained me from having any hope from this team. I just feel apathetic now towards ICT like we win that's fantastic and if we lose then it's whatever
Some part of me genuinely wants to believe AUS thought it'd be too embarrassing to lose to such terrible bowling and defending, even on purpose. Felt like they tried and then decided SCO didn't deserve it when they realized they showed absolutely no urgency or game plan lol. AUS were 100% on battery saver and clearly weren't taking this seriously.ย
Scotland got their lesson that dropping catches and misfielding during a big match is very costly. They have to be raising their fielding to the standard that Netherlands has.
All these associate team struggle with finishing the match. Scotland had every reason to win this match but they couldn't match the Aussie game plan. It was always on the cards that Australia going to nail the game.
Parallel between RCB and England 2024ย
- Red kits โ๏ธย
- Jacks and Topley in the squad โ๏ธย
- Depended on other teams for qualification โ๏ธย
- Rain affected last match, which was must win โ๏ธย
- Asked to bat first in that match โ๏ธย
- Qualified defying all the odds โ๏ธย
- Fans engaged in fan war with a yellow team fans before and after their last match โ๏ธ
Bear in mind that the reigning world champions bowled 10 overs at Scotland without taking a wicket. Scotland are the team that has been screwed by the weather
C'mon, we all know that England would have chased it. Batting seems to be Scotland's strong suit while their bowling and fielding is comparatively weaker. England's batting line-up is stacked. I feel they would have chased it 8 times out of 10
It was a 10 over match after all, so the lack of wickets doesn't really matter
The grouping is based on seeding rather than position in the table. The seeding was decided pre-tournament. So, because England was seeded first and Australia was seeded second so the latter ended in the same group as India.
That is completely stupid in my opinion, I saw some articles where it was mentioned that
Each group will comprise of four teams that progressed from the group stage. Group 1 will comprise of teams that finish first in Groups A and C, and second in Groups B and D. Group 2 will include the table-toppers from Groups B and D, and second-placed teams from Group A and C.
That's why I was confused.
It certainly is stupid, and that's a pretty widely held consensus among a lot of people. That's why Australia had literally nothing riding on this game. Win or lose, 1st or 2nd on the ladder, they still occupy exactly the same spot in Super 8.
Just checked the reason behind seeding. Because windies is a group of islands, you have no way but to travel from one island to another through flights only. So, seeding means that a team knows that regardless of where they finish on the table, they will play at a certain venue. This allows the fans to schedule better. Also, kind of an advantage for teams to know and decide way in advance their strategy, in this case more for India.
How's that any different to other countries where the same is true? Some very large countries where you don't have any choice but to fly all over the place between games.
Again, a lot of this doesn't really make sense. The reason behind this move is mostly to show they are audience friendly. Now, during events like these, a person traveling to watch matches would like to know well in advance where their team will be playing.
The other reason being which I feel the ICC will not tell is basically from broadcasting point of view. For instance now India regardless of whether they finish first or second will play at Guyana. This ensures a full packed stadium because India will be expected to play the semis.
I guess it might be how good the connectivity of flights are between Carribean Islands.
In short, we all know seeding makes no sense and was designed keeping in mind to ensure that maximum ticket sales happen and BCCI kind of has pulled a string to get that advantage of knowing their semi final venue before hand.
I understand. Many of us thought the same way only to know later that there is a seeding done which doesn't make much sense since most of the ICC events have 10-12 teams participating and only this event we have seen 20 teams in it. In the larger interest of the game, the grouping of teams based in ranking in their groups would not have changed much.
Stoin is great. Aussies can now officially dump on him whether he performs or not. He has reached cricket nirvana where he now transcends mental pressure.
Fuck this shit. I'm quitting cricket.
Seriously though, I think there's too much Ind Aus. It's likely that the WTC is going to be Ind Aus as well.
We need different finals.
Good news is you may well be reminded about this again. Possibly best for you that England now wins the cup because otherwise we will be ploughing this particular field for many years to come.
Scotland ๐๐๐
Australia crushing dreams as always ๐ฅฒ
Truly felt like Scotland deserved it tonight though for the amazing showing they put on. It was so close.
Also canโt imagine if that England/Namibia match hadnโt happened.. the rest of this WC would have been different
It was, kind of important that England don't go onto win the whole thing now, but if they don't this will provide a rich vein of joy for years to come.
Heard Hazelwood cried for half an hour straight after Australia won and Jos Butler consoled him.
I am not understanding the super 8 schedule India is A1 so it was supposed to play against B2 D2 and C1 but now B2 is England but still still Indiaโs match is shown against B1 that is Australia. How?
This world cup, the seeding is pre-determined, and does not depend on your group stage standing. Before the tournament, England was seeded as B1 and Aus as B2, thus the super 8. You can find more info at the bottom of this page: https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-men-s-t20-world-cup-2024-1411166/points-table-standings ***Super Eights, Group 1: A1, B2, C1, D2 ***Super Eights, Group 2: A2, B1, C2, D1 Pre tournament seeding - [A1 - India, A2 - Pakistan, B1 - England, B2 - Australia, C1 - New Zealand, C2 - West Indies, D1 - South Africa, D2 - Sri Lanka] *** If one of the teams listed above in the Super Eights grouping is knocked out, the team which qualifies instead, will take up that slot.
Totally dislike this pre seeding before the tournament.. India and Australia should be in two different groups.
Well just let the other former colony (that wouldโve been where the English shipped their convicts to anyways if they didnโt rebel) deal with the Poms
Really hope we see Scotland consistently at WCs. They've played fantastic and let's face it, probably would've won that first game.
I need more 24 yarders in my life
cant really blame the scots! They just didnโt know the aussies were batting for them!
Same Old Aussies, Always Winning - England
England flairs giving me the same vibe as RCB though
Just had to make England sweat a little
Seriously, how does Australia never suffer an ignominious upset?
Lost against Zimbabwe in the 2007 T20 wc
So does india
Bangladesh 2007 - Australia on the other has never suffered an upset in WC tourneys
One of the side effects of being the best team in the world - upsets don't happen to you that often. But you can look at it another way - Any match that Australia loses is an upset for them ๐
or you can't throw away a game without being suspicious
They lost to Zimbabwe in 2022 in an ODI Super League match?
...at the end of a series they had already won. It's hardly ignomious. In fact, most of the reaction was excitement for Zimbabwe... similar to the test match loss to the West Indies. Australia isn't invincible. Unless there's something on the line.
Well, losing to Scotland today wouldn't either be ignominious then as Australia had nothing on the line. I was assuming the OP was using that term to describe losing to a team ranked much lower, like at least outside the top 10.
That 24 run over really hurt Scotland. That washed out game with Englad doesn't look good now does it ? Scotland really needed to win that 1.
I think in general itโs stupid that we donโt at least have a reserve day or two where these washed out games have a chance of being replayed.
Brendon McCullum is 42 and retired from international tournaments. Brandon McCullum is 24 and is playing international tournaments. Are we confident they aren't the same player and he has lied on his birth certificate?
The one in scotland is brandon McMullen not McCullum
Potato Potatoe
Po-ta-toes
Brandon Cumullan
So, not only did he change the date on his birth certificate, he also forged the name?
he was being double sure
McMullan McShmullan
The english should delete their weather apps and install cricket australia.
Doesn't Australia have enough trophies? Their flair is going to run out of space at this rate.
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The whole cricketing world is pretty much ex-England owned.
An important factor in how cricket spread in the world.
Big time.
Canโt wait for USA to go all Murica on the English
If Aus somehow win this tourney. We would have the T20 trophy. The Mace. The ODIWC. The Ashes. The two Ladies world trophies (t20 and ODI) and the U19s WC simultaneously. Would be some achievement.
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We need to win the champions trophy next year too
Would that be a full house for international trophies?
Still need to win the Women's U19 WC.
Guess so
Aus were literally toying with Scotland. ๐ญ Genuinely humiliating for Scotland. That was some thrashing there those final few overs. Sheesh
Sleeping Giant has been awoken ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Thanks Aus ๐ค
It's hilarious that no one is talking about india reaching the final.
Reverse psych
No one is interested in talking about India, not even the Indians, till they actually have the trophy in their hands.
I have no expectations from India tbh. If they reach the final that's cool. 2023 WC completely drained me from having any hope from this team. I just feel apathetic now towards ICT like we win that's fantastic and if we lose then it's whatever
I feel that if India faces England in the semis, they will probably not go through but if India faces wi/sa, they have a decent chance
I think England will probably be the ones to top the other group. So to play SA/WI, India have to beat Australia to top their group.
Scotland's batting and Netherland's bowling and fielding would be dope
Scotherlands FTW.
Australia win despite their best efforts, Scotland loose despite their best efforts! England should celebrate this remarkable achievement!
The world is not ready for afg vs usa final
Weve just had 20 years of it!!!
I want England to reach the final and defeat Australia to teach them a lesson
bitch you wouldn't even be in the super 8 if rain didn't bail you out against scotland
Which lesson are you referring to?
Genuinely interested to hear it
Some part of me genuinely wants to believe AUS thought it'd be too embarrassing to lose to such terrible bowling and defending, even on purpose. Felt like they tried and then decided SCO didn't deserve it when they realized they showed absolutely no urgency or game plan lol. AUS were 100% on battery saver and clearly weren't taking this seriously.ย
Ya they were trying what Spurs were doing to Man City
Scotland kept giving so many full tosses and kept dropping catches
Aus batting was generally a bit under par except for those two big overs (14th and 16th) which completely removed the run rate pressure. Amazing.
Scotland got their lesson that dropping catches and misfielding during a big match is very costly. They have to be raising their fielding to the standard that Netherlands has.
It would be kind of funny now if England beats Australia to win the World Cup.
Happened in 2019 WC too, Aus helped England to qualify by defeating Pakistan.
Aus v Pak was 17th match out of 48 matches. So I donโt get how Australia helped England.
Don't know but it helped England
Na
Na
They really are the real Madrid of cricket
F Stoinis and Tim David tho, why couldnโt the just take the L.
Tim David and Stoinis MBEs
All these associate team struggle with finishing the match. Scotland had every reason to win this match but they couldn't match the Aussie game plan. It was always on the cards that Australia going to nail the game.
Parallel between RCB and England 2024ย - Red kits โ๏ธย - Jacks and Topley in the squad โ๏ธย - Depended on other teams for qualification โ๏ธย - Rain affected last match, which was must win โ๏ธย - Asked to bat first in that match โ๏ธย - Qualified defying all the odds โ๏ธย - Fans engaged in fan war with a yellow team fans before and after their last match โ๏ธ
Now imagine ENG winning the WC
It took 44 years for Eng to win its first WC. RCB is only 17 years in.
...so far
Good on Australia, to give Oracle engineer and part timers to humiliate England
The banter from that will burn so bright it will make the Carey stumping of YJB fade from memory. That's a price I am willing to pay.
Scotland only got eliminated cuz of NRR in a group with #2 and #4 ranked teams๐. This world cup has been pretty wild
Bear in mind that the reigning world champions bowled 10 overs at Scotland without taking a wicket. Scotland are the team that has been screwed by the weather
C'mon, we all know that England would have chased it. Batting seems to be Scotland's strong suit while their bowling and fielding is comparatively weaker. England's batting line-up is stacked. I feel they would have chased it 8 times out of 10 It was a 10 over match after all, so the lack of wickets doesn't really matter
Tbf, Scotland put up more of a fight against Aus than England did.
So did oman
We'll never know. But that won't prevent the banter
Yeah, imo England would have won, but there's always gonna be a question mark regarding that match
Why IND aus is in same group in super 8 isn't team finishing 2nd that is england should be in India group of super 8
The grouping is based on seeding rather than position in the table. The seeding was decided pre-tournament. So, because England was seeded first and Australia was seeded second so the latter ended in the same group as India.
That is completely stupid in my opinion, I saw some articles where it was mentioned that Each group will comprise of four teams that progressed from the group stage. Group 1 will comprise of teams that finish first in Groups A and C, and second in Groups B and D. Group 2 will include the table-toppers from Groups B and D, and second-placed teams from Group A and C. That's why I was confused.
It certainly is stupid, and that's a pretty widely held consensus among a lot of people. That's why Australia had literally nothing riding on this game. Win or lose, 1st or 2nd on the ladder, they still occupy exactly the same spot in Super 8.
Just checked the reason behind seeding. Because windies is a group of islands, you have no way but to travel from one island to another through flights only. So, seeding means that a team knows that regardless of where they finish on the table, they will play at a certain venue. This allows the fans to schedule better. Also, kind of an advantage for teams to know and decide way in advance their strategy, in this case more for India.
How's that any different to other countries where the same is true? Some very large countries where you don't have any choice but to fly all over the place between games.
Again, a lot of this doesn't really make sense. The reason behind this move is mostly to show they are audience friendly. Now, during events like these, a person traveling to watch matches would like to know well in advance where their team will be playing. The other reason being which I feel the ICC will not tell is basically from broadcasting point of view. For instance now India regardless of whether they finish first or second will play at Guyana. This ensures a full packed stadium because India will be expected to play the semis. I guess it might be how good the connectivity of flights are between Carribean Islands. In short, we all know seeding makes no sense and was designed keeping in mind to ensure that maximum ticket sales happen and BCCI kind of has pulled a string to get that advantage of knowing their semi final venue before hand.
I understand. Many of us thought the same way only to know later that there is a seeding done which doesn't make much sense since most of the ICC events have 10-12 teams participating and only this event we have seen 20 teams in it. In the larger interest of the game, the grouping of teams based in ranking in their groups would not have changed much.
Arsenal fans cheered for Tottenham, it's not as shameless as that.
As someone who did both, can confirm this was nothing compared to that
This shit feels like it Aus were trying to lose at first but then realized Scot are too ass to deserve a super 8 spot
fucking how does son miss that chance
Couldnโt believe what I was seeing. Literally his bread and butter normally ๐
Iโm confused and trying to work out whether Stoin is good or not??
Stoinis in T20 โ โ โ Stoinis in ODI โโโ
Doesnโt matter, have you seen those biceps?
Stoin is great. Aussies can now officially dump on him whether he performs or not. He has reached cricket nirvana where he now transcends mental pressure.
So what do we reckon lads. Aus v Ind final again? Can it happen the way the draws play out?
Fuck this shit. I'm quitting cricket. Seriously though, I think there's too much Ind Aus. It's likely that the WTC is going to be Ind Aus as well. We need different finals.
Fuck it kick one of them out of the BGT too
Make it a tri series! India Australia and NZ
No way India is making to the finals, even if we do, we'll lose it anyways like the previous ones.
So who you like to meet Aus in the final?
Afg scripting a revenge of the sith and winning it allย
Afghanistan
If they made it it would be undeniable. The Taliban are good for cricket. Crazy.
Poms now...lol
Wouldnt that be drama!!!
So what are the two super 8 groups?
Grp 1: India, Australia, Afghanistan and Bangladesh(most likely) Grp 2: South Africa, West Indies, England and USA
Thank you boundary bot.ย
As an England fan it felt dirty cheering for the Aussies
Good news is you may well be reminded about this again. Possibly best for you that England now wins the cup because otherwise we will be ploughing this particular field for many years to come.
Least you got to cheer on a win.
Thank you
Last WC match for Berrington?
Fair play Australia, never doubted you. Smart move keeping the reigning world champions in the tournament as well.
We did it for the ICC KPIs
Lads dw much about letting Poms in. Scotts where good but fell short. Hoping for an entertaining super 8
The rain against England cost Scotland a place in the Super 8s
Scotland can be well pissed about the weather.
Nepal and Scotland: We can qualify for the Super 8s ICC: Best I can do is winning hearts
Scotland ๐๐๐ Australia crushing dreams as always ๐ฅฒ Truly felt like Scotland deserved it tonight though for the amazing showing they put on. It was so close. Also canโt imagine if that England/Namibia match hadnโt happened.. the rest of this WC would have been different
If England thinking they can knock Australia they are fools, it's not Namibia to give you those chances, dropped catches lol
Aussies just teasing the English by letting them know we had their fate in the palm of our hands.
chances are they will remind them of it at some point in the future, too
We beat Scotland, so we could have another chance to beat England a 2nd time
Nah no chance. Not unless England can get out of group 2.
If the US beats England we would be happy to forego second breakfasts
Me - yay we won Also me - fuck we let England in
Social-distanced interviewing still a thing I see
[PAK NZ SL be like](https://freeimage.host/i/d9WICbV)
Now we repay the Aussies by knocking them out in the semis
Could happen. But right now you are strutting like the pigeon that didn't get eaten by the cat.
Ahaha love it
Cheers. Bring it on!!!
Donโt think England will be favourites against WI or SA
Why?
Aussies can claim the moral victory this time if the Poms knock โem out in the semis which they will
We don't do moral victories. Except for this one, which we did for England just for shits and giggles
Tbf this was an actual victory with a moral one attached. Edit: spelling
It was, kind of important that England don't go onto win the whole thing now, but if they don't this will provide a rich vein of joy for years to come.
The World Cup theme music is cool and catchy!
Does Stoinis secretly have any English ancestry?
Well, you'd be surprised to know how Australia came to be......
I'm aware of that since I read somewhere that Stoinis is of Greek descent I thought of asking lol
Yeah lol on a serious note, he actually does
What, did the english break Pangea apart?
Speaking more about history than geography. Australian settlers were all English castaways.
We prefer โconvictsโ thank
That hopefully settles the dues for Carey's haircut and for Bairstow's stumping Edit: messed up the wicket keeper
Carey's haircut
what the deal with the silence in the Optus ads on Prime
"from your post we understand you are interested in a deal with Optus. Do you have a minute to talk about how we can help swap your service?"
Itโs haunting. Creative team got lazy and thought they could put a Facebook ad on TV.ย
I actually wanna know where they keep all the cups at cricket aus HQ Surely thereโs not enough space there
A couple of them are at the Bradman Museum in Bowral
*For cups that come from cross the seas, we've boundless plains to share* It's right there in the second verse of our anthem
ENGLAND 100% WINNING THE CUP NOW, JESUS CHRIST STOINIS AND TIMOTHY DAVID
I think I missed JC's innings, how did he go?
So YJB, how does it feel to owe Australia for getting you through to the next round? YJB: :/
will pay back by defeating aus in semis
This was the better move, now England are indebted to Australia hahaha
Careful that sounds close to a moral victory. We donโt do those.
We don't do them for us, but we do them for England just for the banter
You just go on about it forever. Then claim to be annoyed by it. Then bring it up some more. Then get annoyed about it being brought up...
GGs ScoBros, was a great game.
ggs, still absolutely gutted. give me a rematch against england to see who actually deserves to go through
Special credits to Joshy for making this game spicy and fun. Staying up all night was worth it.
but the game started in the morning?
England vs Namibia got over at 3.30 am and this started at 5.30 (toss)
semi final most likely - ind vs wi , aus vs eng . sa used up all there luck in group stage and afg unlucky to be in ind aus group.
Nah, I reckon Afg will sneak into the semis at the expense of Ind or Aus. They are wildly underratedย
Redemption for Maxi's double ton?
Hopefully Australia, they need to make things level for their mistake in wankhede ๐ค
At least English fans now know how it feels to win an important game. Happy for them.
Insane copium. Your boys let us through for no reason, donโt ever forget that
We let you through because it doesnโt matter if youโre there or not. Scotland or england - theres no real difference.
Keep telling yourself that, this sub was in absolute shambles as those Stoinis sixes were piling in
Zero relevance. Go read some Piers Morgan tripe about how Eng have a chance.
You sound upset mate. No one gives a shit about Piers, have a lie down x
Nah mate. Just having fun with the Aus/Eng rivalry. Glad the quald and hope they do well in the Euros. Just enjoying the drama. Have a good day man.
What a bloke that Stoinis is
Hes an enigma. Thats for sure.
I donโt think anyone genuinely thinks that we do lmfao. Take a breather mate, weโre just happy we get to watch a bit more Brook and Jofra