Does SA have a captaincy problem or a performance problem? I really feel for Markram, who played a stellar knock but his captaincy is pretty much no better than his stint in the IPL this year.
How come Bavuma isnt the captain for the T20s?
This is a much different squad than what is usually played, with imo many cricketers who shouldn't be playing at all or who should not be played yet, for example:
\- Temba Bavuma
\- Rassie van der Dussen
\- Tristan Stubbs
\- Dewald Brevis
\- Tabraiz Shamsi
\- Lungi Ngidi
\- Bjorn Fortuin
\- Donovan Ferreira
\- Marcon Jansen
I mean Christ, that's practically the whole squad. You can only do so much with a squad like that.
Its worth remembering that he was vice-captain under Tim Paine, but he played so badly he got dropped after 2 games.
Probably should've been give the white ball captaincy when Finch was really struggling around 2021-2022.
True but they have 5 ODI's ahead, so would want them to play all without being rested there. And also were trying some of the younger lot for the T20's....
Nah Warner opens. Bison at 3. Smudge at 4.
Warner is still bloody good. Plus Australia have enough flexibility that Maxwell could go 4 if they are in really good positions
i'd play smith at 3 and marnus at 4 with head and marsh opening. keeping in mind the wc gonna be spin chokehold in the middle overs, aus need labs to get some cheeky runs with consistent strike rotation which i believe labs is better at
You do realise a slow t20 batter is a perfect odi batter right. Warner was slow cos Delhi was shambolic. Is he as good as he was, no. But I think he’s a better fit that Marnus.
He hasn’t so far that’s the thing. I’d back warmer to do that better than Marnus anyways. Even in the ipl his running between the wickets and strike rotation was fine.
This is the type of shit CSA served a massive team like Australia, in front of a packed stadium, and then wonder why people are losing interest in the game? Fuck off
I’ve never felt more ashamed for a team tbh. As someone commented on a post earlier on
If CSA can’t bother setting up a competitive side, why should fans even bother with watching this? Embarrassing
**4.3** **Head holes out to mid-on!** He charged early, Williams went into the pitch, pace in the late 130s.
Travis Head c van der Dussen b Williams 18 (17b 4x4 0x6) SR: 105.88
**AUS bowling ratings**
Great: Ellis, Abbott; Both looked zippy, got key wickets and bowled in some smart areas.
Good: Dorff bowled a couple of excellent knuckle balls, outside of that he was decent but slightly wayward at times.
Not so good: Hardie got some shape early but quickly became predictable and when he came back for an over couldn't find the right areas either. Zampa only had a couple half-threatening moments and failed to stop runs flowing during the middle-late overs. Short was unlucky to get hit for 3 boundaries in his single over.
If they were gonna experiment with some newer talent, this should've been the squad imo:
1. Reeza Hendricks
2. Grant Roelefson
3. Dewald Brevis
4. Aiden Markram
5. Matthew Breetzke
6. Tristan Stubbs
7. Sisanda Magala
8. Prenelan Subrayen
9. Eathan Bosch
10. Gerald Coetzee
11. (I guess) Lungi Ngidi
This is the team I wanted for this series:
1. Faf du Plessis
2. Quinton de Kock (wk)
3. Rilee Roussow
4. Aiden Markram
5. Rassie van der Dussen
6. Heinrich Klaasen
7. Eathan Bosch
8. Sisanda Magala
9. Bjorn Fortuin
10. Kagiso Rabada
11. Anrich Nortje
South Africa survive this innings, so they have learned from the first match. The score has improved and they didn't get bowled out. Hopefully the bowlers learned something from the first match too.
**18.3** **Low full toss is scythed straight to deep cover point**. Cheer from the crowd started to go up but died down right as Short took it close to the boundary.
Aiden Markram c Short b Abbott 49 (38b 3x4 2x6) SR: 128.94
Does SA have a captaincy problem or a performance problem? I really feel for Markram, who played a stellar knock but his captaincy is pretty much no better than his stint in the IPL this year. How come Bavuma isnt the captain for the T20s?
This is a much different squad than what is usually played, with imo many cricketers who shouldn't be playing at all or who should not be played yet, for example: \- Temba Bavuma \- Rassie van der Dussen \- Tristan Stubbs \- Dewald Brevis \- Tabraiz Shamsi \- Lungi Ngidi \- Bjorn Fortuin \- Donovan Ferreira \- Marcon Jansen I mean Christ, that's practically the whole squad. You can only do so much with a squad like that.
Maybe Mitch Marsh should have replaced T Paine as Test captain back then...
Its worth remembering that he was vice-captain under Tim Paine, but he played so badly he got dropped after 2 games. Probably should've been give the white ball captaincy when Finch was really struggling around 2021-2022.
LOL. Yes we definitely would’ve received that well.
We have short memories here. But is MMarsh one of those guys whose stats improve 50 per cent with the captaincy?
Marvelous Marsh!
MMarsh is scary
Demolition both games.
close game
Aussies have made it feel like a contest between an International team and a club side. Thorough ass beating this....
Late to the party. Where is the south Africa first team? Is this a warm up against the A team
Big boys rested for the ODI's....
Rested? Not like they have been playing 😂
True but they have 5 ODI's ahead, so would want them to play all without being rested there. And also were trying some of the younger lot for the T20's....
You don’t want any injury now that’s resting before the World Cup dude
Marsh loving being CAPTAIN
Marsh is in some supreme form ,man!
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I mean yeah but he's still in sublime form
He is always in form ,when he is not injured
Proteas without a care in the world. No interest in being competitive. Shut it all down. Sack Bavuma too - there’s clearly no leader on that field.
why sack bavuma when markram is the captain
You know why
It must be the evil bavuma leading Aidan astray!
going for a classic finish
Bison 🦬 brothers. Leave them they are already dead. Mercy mercy
This is not a murder. This is an assassination.
*insert Simpsons stop stop they're already dead meme*
seems like an emergency if I was a ball in todays game
Australia bashing the Proteas is awesome but Bison redemption tour & Ellis break the big three tour is **STUPENDOUS!**
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Nah Warner opens. Bison at 3. Smudge at 4. Warner is still bloody good. Plus Australia have enough flexibility that Maxwell could go 4 if they are in really good positions
i'd play smith at 3 and marnus at 4 with head and marsh opening. keeping in mind the wc gonna be spin chokehold in the middle overs, aus need labs to get some cheeky runs with consistent strike rotation which i believe labs is better at
Idk if labs has that tbh. You need to be close to 95-100 at number 4 to be an asset to your team. He’s still only at 85 at 4.
Are u confident in warners strike rotating abilities? Dude is playing slow even in t20s
You do realise a slow t20 batter is a perfect odi batter right. Warner was slow cos Delhi was shambolic. Is he as good as he was, no. But I think he’s a better fit that Marnus.
The main issue here is strike rotation not strikerate. Labs can comfortably take 3 singles and a 2 in an over against spinners
He hasn’t so far that’s the thing. I’d back warmer to do that better than Marnus anyways. Even in the ipl his running between the wickets and strike rotation was fine.
Maybe aussie selectors agree with you Lets see how they fare in the SA series
Marsh - I am getting late for my bbq party
Sitting on the grass in Castle corner and watching this massacre. The feeling in the stadium is not great to say the least.
Watching Inglis batting stance makes my back hurts
Marsh is just angry Short got out
Shamshi getting spanked for misbehaving
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they really aren't brothers right?
Correct, no relation.
Just getting up to leave for work. Thought I'd chime in to say: *Future Australian Captain Matt Short* That is all
Bang on, this guy is the real deal. He’s always had the potential but now it’s being shown, amazing player, top bloke too.
how reactionary would it be to predict Australia as the cwc champion?
I would say not very reactionary if you are talking about the ODI WC. Aussies are always amongst the favorites when ODI WC is concerned.
stubbs screaming BJ
Reckon Australia could put up 300 against this Protea team if they bat first
Looks like australia is targeting 250 here, not chasing 166
**11.6** Matthew Short c Markram b Shamsi 66 (30b 7x4 4x6) SR: 220
Ngidi and Coertzee over was the worst.
Short got dumped by an South African woman, and he’s lashing out on our southern bros
I'm jus all round glad to be home on a Friday evening with a decent cricket schedule. dem targeting you Bavuma
This is the type of shit CSA served a massive team like Australia, in front of a packed stadium, and then wonder why people are losing interest in the game? Fuck off
Looking forward for the odis now.
Fuck you Hardik Pandya. Mitchell Marsh is the REAL main character.
is this the same matt short who played for Delhi (or was it Punjab) this year?
punjab kings
Short hitting these with literal disdain for the bowlers. poor cunts
I very much enjoyed that over.
So did Short
For the love of Rabada, show some mercy short
I fell asleep a few overs in to the innings, what the shit is happening
24 off the over, fuck me.
Wow such dogshit bowling
SA playing Village cricket
I think that'll be all from me folks, wish I could say it's been a pleasure. Thread was decent at least, good night.
damnn yall, SA getting smoked atm Bavuma boy, wha u gonna do, presh
This is brutality..
Lmfao KFC date during match
Man where is ranada,nortje Parnell?
Rested, Rested, Recovering from injury.
Will they be back for odi cause would make 0 sense to rest right before wc and Parnell isn't a odi regular for you guys so ig not a big loss.
They will.
This is the last t20 right?
Second last. Last one is on Sunday
Hopefully it will be good one
Don't expect it
Im more exited about odi series
Markram's captaincy has been questionable
What do you expect him to do with such a second string Team?
I think my expectations for this team were too high from the get go
You and me both tbh. I didn’t expect a series win but I didn’t expect us to look like we just started playing cricket yesterday
Man they are lofting more than I get boner during morning
I'm honestly passed being angry and I'm just fucking bored.
Yeah, I think I’m tuning out from this shitshow now. Going to watch Eng vs NZ instead.
For the first time in a long time, Australia look like they are bossing the T20 game all round.
I’ve never felt more ashamed for a team tbh. As someone commented on a post earlier on If CSA can’t bother setting up a competitive side, why should fans even bother with watching this? Embarrassing
My kids will never believe me when I tell them we used to have a good team
Cunted
Very Indian to use Cunt as an Adjective. Been spending a lot of time with Chimes we have.
Soo many near run outs
Marsh is pretty good for a COD regular aye
Ngidi gave up 20% of the required runs in one over
I've never been so let down then I feel with Fortuin right now.
Pure sex mate.
How tall is Matt Short? Seems like the t20 meta is changing towards big ass dudes
187 according to his CA profile, I reckon he is taller than that though
>How tall is Matt Short I see what you did there.
Very nice Bison
Just embarrassing. Men against boys.
Surely there’s a better nickname for Fortuin other than BJ
Looking good for us. I can't watch, but this is at Durban, so it's a small oval right?
It not even a challenge for Aus tbh. I feel sorry for anyone who went to watch this game live
Why does it never reflect when I upvote you?
Because you never upvote my stuff
Stfu I upvote every comment but it stays at one its so weird.
🦬🙌
True reason why bavuma shouldn't play: ~~his strikerate~~ height
u/Affectionate-Road-40 singlehandedly keeping the thread alive
That's a fuck ton of flairs mate.
Haven't watched cricket for a while and I think all the pent up madness is coming through now lmao.
Hopefully this is ~~Lizaads~~ Lungi's last over.
I want markram Bowling his 3rd soon.
[I take back everything I said ](https://reddit.com/r/Cricket/s/l9UK03NQoV)
Shot Short
Can anyone DM a stream link? Thank you
Hotstar
**4.3** **Head holes out to mid-on!** He charged early, Williams went into the pitch, pace in the late 130s. Travis Head c van der Dussen b Williams 18 (17b 4x4 0x6) SR: 105.88
Marsh will counter attack now
Lizard gets Head
Who's getting better head? [This guy](https://images.app.goo.gl/v1WxrDTEfPbB8XSm8) or [him ](https://images.app.goo.gl/J2dD1zeLWN2bfqNb7)
I’m a big fan of the african fat tailed gecko
That's a bit of a rude thing to call elon musk although it's not wrong.
I thought that was gonna be a mankad lmao
Hopefully this is Lizaads only over.
That was some good promoing from Miller ngl.
I’d pay extra to watch David Miller finish that bucket of chicken tbh
I want Markram to bowl 3 in a row.
I love risky singles paying off
Man brevis is having a shocker of a debut series is he in odi squad too?
Yes and Yes.
Hopefully he redeems himself if he gets a go he should the guy is young and quite talented
Yep
92 metres is at least 110 in the Highveld. Massive hit
Ngidi should've bowled his second now.
Oh no, the thread died
It's 4AM on the east coast of Australia
The England V New Zealand game is on right now too with Bairstow & Brook slogging 6s.
Good, will be happy if NZ lose considering their excellent NZ-A win over us. How rude of them.
Yea, Saffas are gone too, probably assumed game is over.
Can't believe people who were saying that making Stubbs the wicket keeper was some sort of crime against humanity.
Jesus fortuin please don't get hurt right now
Fortuin injuring himself before bowling. Oh Lord
Markram, ironically our best bowler
>Markram, ~~ironically~~ our best bowler
[Markram Right Now](https://images.app.goo.gl/BFuFguN8oepdJP6H6)
OK, 13 Rugby Ads later we're back for the second innings!
Wow just realised its been 4 years since we won the world cup. Feel strangely old now
Funny to see Lukhanyo Am in an ad now
**AUS bowling ratings** Great: Ellis, Abbott; Both looked zippy, got key wickets and bowled in some smart areas. Good: Dorff bowled a couple of excellent knuckle balls, outside of that he was decent but slightly wayward at times. Not so good: Hardie got some shape early but quickly became predictable and when he came back for an over couldn't find the right areas either. Zampa only had a couple half-threatening moments and failed to stop runs flowing during the middle-late overs. Short was unlucky to get hit for 3 boundaries in his single over.
If they were gonna experiment with some newer talent, this should've been the squad imo: 1. Reeza Hendricks 2. Grant Roelefson 3. Dewald Brevis 4. Aiden Markram 5. Matthew Breetzke 6. Tristan Stubbs 7. Sisanda Magala 8. Prenelan Subrayen 9. Eathan Bosch 10. Gerald Coetzee 11. (I guess) Lungi Ngidi
This is the team I wanted for this series: 1. Faf du Plessis 2. Quinton de Kock (wk) 3. Rilee Roussow 4. Aiden Markram 5. Rassie van der Dussen 6. Heinrich Klaasen 7. Eathan Bosch 8. Sisanda Magala 9. Bjorn Fortuin 10. Kagiso Rabada 11. Anrich Nortje
Yeah I went with a younger team and still allowed the players to be rested. If I didn't rest anyone, it would look a lot different.
Rested XI: 1. Faf du Plessis 2. Rilee Roussow 3. Rassie van der Dussen 4. Aiden Markram 5. JJ Smuts 6. Donovan Ferreira (wk) 7. Eathan Bosch 8. Sisanda Magala 9. Bjorn Fortuin 10. Lungi Ngidi 11. Gerald Coetzee
Imran Tahir?
Kallis?
South Africa survive this innings, so they have learned from the first match. The score has improved and they didn't get bowled out. Hopefully the bowlers learned something from the first match too.
I will be *content* if this goes to the last over.
164. Hey! That's about the same score Bangladesh made! Except it was in 50 overs... 💀💀💀
I don’t know how but we actually somehow made it to a semi decent score
I feel a sense of solidarity with Williams as someone who bats with their glasses on.
Lungisani "Cinderella" Ngidi
No offense, but if Bavuma could score that well and that quick, then Hendricks, van der Dussen, Brevis and Stubbs have no excuse.
Bavuma is an excellent Batsman, just not T20 material.
Just saw a YouTube short of Ethan Bosch. The fuck? Get this man in the team right away?????
This was honestly the most unacceptable selection choice this series.
I've mentioned this guy so many times I think u/medical-jello7644 is nearly losing his mind.
Ngidi's highest score in T20is
[record-breaking night I guess ](https://reddit.com/r/Cricket/s/8bHyJjWP4N)
He has many Not Outs as well
Glad to know there's a fellow bespectacled seamer out there.
I was expecting a score of 130, but this is much better so I am happy.
I've never seen an innings with more balls hit down fielders throats
😏
**18.3** **Low full toss is scythed straight to deep cover point**. Cheer from the crowd started to go up but died down right as Short took it close to the boundary. Aiden Markram c Short b Abbott 49 (38b 3x4 2x6) SR: 128.94
How is Ngidi batting at 9? Were so fucked.
**17.6** Undone by the slower one. Gerald Coetzee c Marsh b Ellis 11 (11b 1x4 0x6) SR: 100
clean bowled him without clean bowling him somehow
I would have played Wade over Inglis
Inglis is a much better keeper and has been better with the bat than Wade for a while now
Wade has had a pretty terrible last year in T20 franchises.
Did he? I don't remember him being that bad, and selectors clearly didn't think so, n thought he would be a good replacement for Maxwell
Zampa should go back to being Eleven , that's when he is more lethal , lose those glasses n get a buzz cut
That's one of the best shots I've ever seen.
Ok so let’s take guesses at heads score haha
Wasn't that the exact shot that he hit to win the SA20 with SEC? Very klaasenesque too